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Dassault Papillon
By Dassault Papillon | Jun 30 2016 9:44 AM
Krazy: So how would you deal with the people who refuse to accept this Christian heritage and refuse to base their morals off of it?
Krazy
By Krazy | Jun 30 2016 9:54 AM
Dassault Papillon: They would have to follow Christian morals, such as by not entering homosexual relationships
Right. You have to follow the laws of this country.

So how would you deal with the people who refuse to accept this Christian heritage and refuse to base their morals off of it?
Well if you break the law, then you get punished. That's how every country works.
Dassault Papillon
By Dassault Papillon | Jun 30 2016 10:53 AM
Krazy: The large majority of Americans don't even want homosexuality to be illegal.
Krazy
By Krazy | Jun 30 2016 11:05 AM
Dassault Papillon: Yeah well, just because the majority believe that, it doesn't make it right.
Dassault Papillon
By Dassault Papillon | Jun 30 2016 11:16 AM
Krazy: So in your own words, those who refused to live by the Christian ethic would be "punished". This system would be imposed upon 320 million people, and a significant majority of them would hate it.
Dassault Papillon
By Dassault Papillon | Jun 30 2016 11:17 AM
A regime like that could not possibly survive for longer than 10 years.
Krazy
By Krazy | Jun 30 2016 11:52 AM
Dassault Papillon: So in your own words, those who refused to live by the Christian ethic would be "punished".
Well, if somebody commits murder, stealing, rape, pedophilia, homosexuality, etc, then of course they should be punished.

This system would be imposed upon 320 million people, and a significant majority of them would hate it.
Are you sure they would hate living under a "Christian ethic" as you put it? Around 70% of Americans are Christians.

A regime like that could not possibly survive for longer than 10 years.
Well it lasted for at least 150 years in the United States. American law was largely based on the Bible until about the late 20th century. In the later half of the 1900s, they kicked out school prayer, practiced child sacrifice (abortion), and approved of homosexuality, as well as other stuff.
Dassault Papillon
By Dassault Papillon | Jun 30 2016 11:57 AM
Krazy: But like I said, well over 50% of Americans support gay marriage, not just as a begrudged "Well, since it doesn't hurt anyone I guess they should be able to choose that" but rather as a "Congratulations to the LGBT community for securing their rights!"
As for most Americans being "Christian", that's only in name. Most of them are religiously apathetic and live as they please. In fact, most of these professed Christians hate Evangelicals.
Dassault Papillon
By Dassault Papillon | Jun 30 2016 11:59 AM
America is no longer a Christian country, even if on paper most are still Christian. Anti-sodomy laws which were commonly accepted 50 years ago would be viewed as abominable to most Americans today, in their eyes on par with bringing back segregation.
Krazy
By Krazy | Jun 30 2016 12:36 PM
Dassault Papillon: Right, the United States isn't the country that it once was, sadly
Crow
By Crow | Jun 30 2016 12:37 PM
Krazy: Mostly due to diminishing liberties.

What you want to do is continue expanding a legal system which is 1000 times the size it was during America's founding.
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Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | Jun 30 2016 5:02 PM
Krazy: I knew you would point that out. The bible promotes rule by God, not by man, but theocracy would be considered a form of government. So Theocracy is what is promoted in the old testament, but the new testament is different. I would say that Jesus wasn't political, instead he focused on God without placing faith in man.
Anyways, how would you define "christian nation"?
Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | Jun 30 2016 5:11 PM
Dassault Papillon: America is no longer a Christian country, even if on paper most are still Christian.
It never was anyways.
It is true the people who founded America were largely Christian, however, the constitution prohibited establishment of any religion. So, the U.S. was a secular state. As far as christian values, the U.S. is a democracy, so change can happen if someone who wants it is elected. The U.S. was never meant to be Christian, but free.
Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | Jun 30 2016 5:13 PM
Crow: There are more things illegal in the U.S. now than there was 30 years ago.
So, it would be safe to say that our liberties are going down.
Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | Jun 30 2016 5:14 PM
Krazy: Yeah well, just because the majority believe that, it doesn't make it right.
But that is how democracy works, if you don't like it, move to another country.
Krazy
By Krazy | Jul 1 2016 1:49 AM
Bi0Hazard: It is true the people who founded America were largely Christian, however, the constitution prohibited establishment of any religion
For the federal government, yes. The purpose of the first amendment was to prevent the federal government from imposing a certain denomination of Christianity over the states. The states could have their own state-estsblished denominations. Thomas Jefferson confirmed this when he said:

I consider the government of the United States as interdicted by the Constitution from intermeddling with religious institutions, their doctrines, discipline, or exercises. This results not only from the provision that no law shall be made respecting the establishment or free exercise of religion, but from that also which reserves to the States the powers not delegated to the United States. Certainly, no power to prescribe any religious exercise or to assume authority in any religious discipline has been delegated to the General Government. It must then rest with the States.
Krazy
By Krazy | Jul 1 2016 1:50 AM
Bi0Hazard: As far as christian values, the U.S. is a democracy
No it's not. It's a republic.
Krazy
By Krazy | Jul 1 2016 1:50 AM
Bi0Hazard: As far as christian values, the U.S. is a democracy...
No it's not. It's a republic.
Krazy
By Krazy | Jul 1 2016 1:53 AM
Krazy: Here is the source.
Jefferson, Memoir, Vol. I, pp. 103-104, to Samuel Miller, January 23, 1808.
Krazy
By Krazy | Jul 1 2016 1:54 AM
Krazy: Sorry. It's Vol. IV. Not I.
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