Is Christianity a form of Judaism?

Are Christians just Jews that think the Messiah has come?

Random Stranger: Like Messianic Jews?
Judaism and Christianity are classified as separate religions, so it is not a form of Judaism by definition. Since you are referring to labels of religious beliefs, it is fair to go by how they are classified. I consider Christianity to have broken off of Judaism and become its own religion.

Bi0Hazard: I know that they are not technically one and the same, but if you really think about it, the only reason that Christianity isn't part of Judaism is because Jesus was rejected by Jewish leaders. Other than that, Jesus fits right in with the Old Testament prophecies.

Random Stranger: It wouldn't be the same Judaism even if the Jewish leaders accepted him. Jesus provided a change.

Random Stranger: Let me reverse that slightly. Is Islam a form of Christianity?

Random Stranger: Are Christians just Jews that think the Messiah has come?
The Jews reject Jesus Christ, so they aren't Christians. They don't believe any of the Bible either. In fact, most don't believe in a heaven or hell.

admin: Let me reverse that slightly. Is Islam a form of Christianity?
It's a spin-off of the Bible. Muhammad claimed to be a prophet after Jesus.

Bi0Hazard: Jesus provided a change.


If someone came along claiming to be the Messiah, and virtually all the modern Jewish population accepted him, would they no longer be considered Jews?

admin: I don't understand the connection between Islam and Judaism/Christianity enough to answer that, though I know that a connection exists.

Krazy: The Jews reject Jesus Christ, so they aren't Christians.

You're thinking of this backwards. Jews obviously aren't Christians, but that doesn't mean that Christians aren't Jews.

They don't believe any of the Bible either.

They believe the Old Testament.

Random Stranger: Jews obviously aren't Christians, but that doesn't mean that Christians aren't Jews
If you're talking about this racially, that may be true. Because everybody's mixed.

They believe the Old Testament
Lol no they don't. Jesus Christ said that if they believed Moses, they would have believed Him. But they don't. Because they don't believe any of it.
Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
John 5:45‭-‬47 KJV

Random Stranger: It's basically the same story. Just as the Ba'hai believe in another prophet after Muhammed.

The point is this - being from one religious tradition is different from having the same religion.

Krazy: If you're talking about this racially, that may be true. Because everybody's mixed.

No, I don't mean racially. I'm just using logic. A Protestant is not nessasarily a Baptist, but a Baptist is a Protestant. Again, I'm not thinking along the lines of the technical classification.

Because they don't believe any of it.

I have found it odd that modern Jews don't just accept Christ, but this passage doesn't somehow disqualify the Old Testament as the Jewish holy text.

admin: The point is this - being from one religious tradition is different from having the same religion.

What would you say separates Judaism from Christianity as a religion?

Random Stranger: The New Testament and the Talmud.

admin: Does the Apocrypha separate Catholicism from Protestantism? I would say say not.

Random Stranger: No, those are sects of the same religion. They believe in essentially the same stuff, but interpret it differently.

Random Stranger: According to Judaism they knew the Messiah would come because he would fulfill certain prophecies (and the Messiah's coming to the Earth would be undeniable). None of the prophecies were fulfilled by Jesus and it certainly wasn't undeniable (now or at the time as it is recounted), so the reasons for viewing Jesus as the Messiah are different to what Judaism teaches. The only grounds on which Christians use to justify Jesus as the Messiah is that he performed miracles. So they distorted the original Jewish account of what the Messiah would do/be. I'm an atheist, not a Jew, but I've never completely understood the Christian justification for Jesus being the Messiah because he fulfilled none of the Messianic prophecies and merely performed "miracles".

admin: Yes, and you could argue that Jews and Christians believe the same thing, with just one variable, Jesus.

Famousdebater: Uhh, http://christianity.about.com/od/biblefactsandlists/a/Prophecies-Jesus.htm