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prescription medication is poision

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the word pharmakeai means

  1. the use or the administering of drugs
  2. poisoning
  3. sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it
  4. metaph. the deceptions and seductions of idolatry
https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/pharmakeia.html



the word pharmakon means

from pharmakon (a drug)
Definition
a poisoner, sorcerer, magician
NASB Translation

https://biblehub.com/greek/5333.htm




pharmakeai was originally in the bible but it was translated to sorcery in later versions in the bible

jesus said in the end time pharmakeai deceived all nations not sorcery


Parallel Verses
King James Version
And   the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the  voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all  in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy   sorceries were all nations deceived.
https://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/18-23.htm

https://www.stillsmallvoicetriage.org/healing/is-taking-prescription-medicines-the-same-as-witchcraft-pharmakeia/
http://www.deliveranceministriesgroup.com/pharmakeia/



most  if not all prescription medication tons of side effects per pill and  these side effects include thoughts to kill yourself puking blood  yellow eyes and skin disturbing weight gain increased. im making the  case that the side effects are poision

the  prescription dug Prozac which treats depression causes yellow skin and  eyes' thoughts of suicide 'and 104 different thing. this drug helps  with depression. it is an anti depressant. but this is the most   hypercritical thing on the planet one of the side effects of taking   this prozac is depression. prozac is an anti depression. so it is sold  to people because it helps with depression then one of the side effect  of taking the pill is depression. so does it help with depression or  does it cause depression.

why does a drug that helps with depression end up with a side effect that causes depression seems a little counter productive.
. there 104 side effects let that sink in.


 

  1.  Hives, itching, or skin rash
     

  2.  inability to sit still
     

  3.  restlessness

  1.  Chills or fever
     

  2.  joint or muscle pain
     

 



 

  1.  Anxiety
     

  2.  cold sweats
     

  3.  confusion
     

  4.  convulsions (seizures)
     

  5.  cool pale skin
     

  6.  diarrhea
     

  7.  difficulty with concentration
     

  8.  drowsiness
     

  9.  dryness of the mouth
     

  10.  excessive hunger
     

  11.  fast or irregular heartbeat
     

  12.  headache
     

  13.  increased sweating
     

  14.  increased thirst
     

  15.  lack of energy
     

  16.  mood or behavior changes
     

  17.  overactive reflexes
     

  18.  purple or red spots on the skin
     

  19.  racing heartbeat
     

  20.  shakiness or unsteady walk
     

  21.  shivering or shaking
     

  22.  talking, feeling, and acting with excitement and activity you cannot control
     

  23.  trouble with breathing
     

  24.  unusual or incomplete body or facial movements
     

  25.  unusual tiredness or weakness
     

 
 

  1.  Abdominal or stomach pain
     

  2.  agitation
     

  3.  back or leg pains
     

  4.  bleeding gums
     

  5.  blindness
     

  6.  blistering, peeling, or loosening of the skin
     

  7.  bloating
     

  8.  blood in the urine or stools
     

  9.  bloody, black or tarry stools
     

  10.  blue-yellow color blindness
     

  11.  blurred vision
     

  12.  chest pain or discomfort
     

  13.  clay-colored stools
     

  14.  constipation
     

  15.  continuing vomiting
     

  16.  cough or dry cough
     

  17.  dark urine
     

  18.  decreased urine output
     

  19.  decreased vision
     

  20.  depression
     

  21.  difficulty with breathing
     

  22.  difficulty with swallowing
     

  23.  dizziness or lightheadedness
     

  24.  eye pain
     

  25.  fainting
     

  26.  fast, pounding, or irregular heartbeat or pulse
     

  27.  general body swelling
     

  28.  high fever
     

  29.  hives, itching, puffiness or swelling of the eyelids or around the eyes, face, lips, or tongue
     

  30.  hostility
     

  31.  indigestion
     

  32.  irregular or slow heart rate
     

  33.  irritability
     

  34.  large, hive-like swelling on the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, or sex organs
     

  35.  light-colored stools
     

  36.  loss of appetite
     

  37.  loss of bladder control
     

  38.  muscle twitching
     

  39.  nausea
     

  40.  nightmares
     

  41.  no blood pressure or pulse
     

  42.  noisy breathing
     

  43.  nosebleeds
     

  44.  pain in the ankles or knees
     

  45.  painful, red lumps under the skin, mostly on the legs
     

  46.  pains in the stomach, side, or abdomen, possibly radiating to the back
     

  47.  pinpoint red spots on the skin
     

  48.  rapid weight gain
     

  49.  red or irritated eyes
     

  50.  red skin lesions, often with a purple center
     

  51.  redness, tenderness, itching, burning, or peeling of the skin
     

  52.  severe muscle stiffness
     

  53.  severe sleepiness
     

  54.  slurred speech
     

  55.  sore throat
     

  56.  sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth
     

  57.  stopping of heart
     

  58.  sudden shortness of breath or troubled breathing
     

  59.  sudden weakness in the arms or legs
     

  60.  sudden, severe chest pain
     

  61.  swelling of the face, ankles, or hands
     

  62.  swollen or painful glands
     

  63.  thoughts of killing oneself
     

  64.  tightness in the chest
     

  65.  tiredness
     

  66.  twitching, twisting, or uncontrolled repetitive movements of the tongue, lips, face, arms, or legs
     

  67.  unconsciousness
     

  68.  unpleasant breath odor
     

  69.  unusual bleeding or bruising
     

  70.  unusual drowsiness, dullness, tiredness, weakness, or feeling of sluggishness
     

  71.  unusually pale skin
     

  72.  use of extreme physical or emotional force
     

  73.  vomiting of blood
     

  74.  yellow eyes or skin
     

More common


 

  1.  Decreased appetite
     

 

Less common or rare


 

  1.  Abnormal dreams
     

  2.  breast enlargement or pain
     

  3.  change in sense of taste
     

  4.  changes in vision
     

  5.  feeling of warmth or heat
     

  6.  flushing or redness of the skin, especially on face and neck
     

  7.  frequent urination
     

  8.  hair loss
     

  9.  increased appetite
     

  10.  increased sensitivity of the skin to sunlight
     

  11.  menstrual pain
     

  12.  stomach cramps, gas, or pain
     

  13.  unusual secretion of milk, in females
     

  14.  weight loss
     

  15.  yawning
     

 
 

  1.  Cracks in the skin
     

  2.  loss of heat from the body
     

  3.  painful or prolonged erections of the penis
     

  4.  scaly skin
     

  5.  swelling of the breasts or breast soreness in both females and males
     

  6.  unusual milk production
     


prozac will turn you into homer Simpson





yellow skin and eyes yellow skin and eyes yellow skin and eyes  how does something that affects your mood turn your skin yellow and  your eyes

the saffron flower is said to be better than prozac for depression
https://saveourbones.com/curcumin-a...ne-damaging-antidepressants-including-prozac/


you know how at the end of an prescription add they talk real fast as
the list the side effects just listen to what they actually say



https://www.opdivo.com/advanced-nsclc/about-opdivo/side-effects
opdval has 110 before i lost count lol the guy reacting to the commercial amazed at 30

  • a few of the side effects

  • yellowing of your skin or
    the whites of your eyes
  • severe nausea or vomiting
  • pain on the right side of your
    stomach area (abdomen)
  • drowsiness
  • dark urine (tea colored)
  • bleeding or bruising more easily
    than normal
  • feeling less hungry than usual
  • decreased energy
  • feeling tired
  • rash
  • pain in muscles, bones, and joints
  • itchy skin
  • diarrhea
  • nausea
  • weakness
  • cough
  • shortness of breath
  • constipation
  • decreased appetite
  • back pain
  • upper respiratory tract infection
  • fever
  • headache
  • abdominal pain
etc





the medical logo that big pharma uses is either a snake a stick and or 2 snake and a stick
the  first one is the staff of hermis and the second one is the rod of  ascluipus it is greek just like pharmakeai and pharmakon. the snake gods  of the greeks used its staff to heal people which is why it is here you  can find this info about the history of these medical symbols on a  witch site. you will now notice this stupid symbol everywhere you look  TV politicians usually were the symbol. they are ambulances etc.


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see the snake and stick
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tcRl6z9lZz0/UsdZh2WqeyI/AAAAAAAGdA4/wXMDxZ4UPU8/s1600/LIFEGUARD+AMBULANCE+Columbia+County,+Lake+City+Florida+Division,+Life+Guard+GMC+Ambulance+Non+Emergency+Medical+Services+Lake+City+FL..JPG






on the magical recipes online site you are able to read about its historyhttps://www.magicalrecipesonline.com/2012/04/kerykeion-caduceus-the-magic-staff-of-hermes-mercury.html
the site that and i quote

"YOUR WITCHY MAGAZINE ON ASTROLOGY AND ALL MAGICAL ARTS"





Pokemon references pharmakeai. Pokemon  scientifically crafted Pokemon medicine only heals 20 health points  while a bottle of water heals 50 these Pokemon medicines are called  potion just how pharmakeai one of its definition is potion making

Image result for pokemon meme water is better than modern day medicine

Image result for pokemon potion

here has been a resent call back of the diabetes medications  farxiga and jardiance because the medicine started to eat the flesh of  the genitals and people needed to have there arms and legs cut off. if  you or a loved one has taken farxiga and jardiance and had your foot and  hands amputated you may be entitled to a compensation
farxiga commercial before people started suffering from flesh eating of the genitals











farxiga has been taken off the market because people suffered from  flesh eating of the genitals and or had there arms and legs cut off if  you took farxiga then suffered from foot and hand cut off or flesh  eating of the genitals you may be entitled to a cash reward

https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/news/20180830/fda-warns-of-genital-infection-from-diabetes-meds#1

https://diabetesrxclaims.com/?c=drughurt


farxiga has been proven not to work and worked just as good as a placebo
https://www.aboutlawsuits.com/farxiga-fares-no-better-than-placebo-at-preventing-major-heart-problems-but-lowers-death-risk-study-153392/
farxiga proven snake oil

on  Saturday night live a late show host john oliver talks about the big  pharma problem in this video he talks about how doctors make medical  decisions based off of the big pharma. doctors decide what medication  you get not on you need but on who bribes them with lunch. he then talks  about how they are choose young hot people who know nothing about  medicine and there sales pitch when they present there newly created  drugs is like a rock concert


rock concert at 2:35

doctors bribed by lunch at 6:25
doctors   getting in trouble for prescribing medications for the condition they   having and told to sell more of there stuff not the competitors 6:56



olive oil vs chemo


olive  oil when consumes kills cancer cells 1 hour after ingested. pharmakeai  or pharmacon people use this treatment called chemo therapy this is  when they start killing off cells in the hope to kill the cancer cells.  they use a drug which kills cells but this poison does not just kill  cancer cells it kills normal cells to because the drug can not tell the  difference between normal cells and cancer cells. but olive oil only  kills cancer cells because it can tell the difference 1 hour after use.  btw if you get rid of cancer cells the cancer is gone cancer cells are  what make up the cancer. a tumor is just a bunch of cancer cell molded  together. how would chemicals create a plant with medical properties  that are more effective then a treatment scientist made. god must have  created olive oil


' doctors' drug there patients  with cell killing drugs in the hope to kill cancer cells thus curing  them of cancer but the drug kills normal cells to
https://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatments-and-side-effects/treatment-types/chemotherapy/how-chemotherapy-drugs-work.html
https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/cancer-in-general/treatment/chemotherapy/how-chemotherapy-works


olive oil does the exact same thing but only kills cancer cells.
https://www.medicaldaily.com/olive-oil-compound-kills-cancer-cells-less-hour-all-powerful-oleocanthal-322904


both are just as effective but olive oil you do not suffer side effect

many people have rightfully pointed out and basically said well if olive oil kills cancer cells does that not cure cancer.
https://www.drweil.com/health-wellness/body-mind-spirit/cancer/can-olive-oil-cure-cancer/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/03/150302141241.htmhttps://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/03/150302141241.htm



pharmacist cast spells on there patience in Brittan

one of there techniques was called wart charming
https://www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/opinion/comment/casting-spells-and-dispensing-magic-in-20th-century-british-pharmacy/10002896.article?firstPass=false

remember  they are giving millions of drugs away so a drug that only has a 1 in  1000 chance of happening is now a couple hundred thousand people  suffering from that side effects

















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2019-03-20 03:56:48
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AcerAcer (CON)
First of all, I'd like to thank my opponent for debating in today's debate.  For the judge's clarification, instead of making a traditional constructive, I will be going down my opponent's case and refuting arguments.  This has taken me a while, simply because some points are very scattered around my opponent's flow.

I would also like to preface this argument that I don't believe that this debate should be viewed through the lens of theology, simply because I find irrelevant to the actual point of the argument.  I also encourage judges to not view this debate through what a religious text says is poison, but what the actual effects and intents of the medicine are today.

Opponent's Point 1: "pharmakeia" and "pharmakon"
Personally, I can't see the relevancy of the argument to the debate.  The biblical Greek translation of these words doesn't actually hold any merit to today's round.  The reason that the roots for pharmacist translate to things like "sorcerer" and "poison" was because of a lack of medicine.  People had relied on sorcery to cure them, and because medical science wasn't incredibly precise or accurate, it often lead to people's deaths.  If my opponent can provide relevancy past the Greek origin of pharmacy, I encourage them to do so in their rebuttal.

Opponent's Point 2: Medicine's side effects make it poison
My opponent has claimed that because of some of the side effects of medication, they are poisons, claiming that "most if not all prescription medication tons of side effects per pill... im making the case that the side effects are poison"  There are two reasons as to why this argument fails.  First of all, if one believes that something can be poison because of its unintended consequences, virtually everything becomes a poison.  By my opponent's classification of what poison is things such as most tap water¹ and air² become much more poisonous than the medications that my opponent listed.  For my second point, my opponent brings up the side effects of Prozac and Opdivo.  When talking about Prozac, my opponent seems to assume that it's incredibly common that these side effects take place in users.  As a Prozac user myself, I can assure my opponent that this isn't the case.  With the exception of about 15 of the symptoms my opponent mentioned³, less than 1% of Prozac users suffer the other symptoms that my opponent mentions (none of which are as severe as he lets on to be).  As for Opdivo, at the price of treating NSCLC (Non-Small Cell Lung Cancer), the actual costs very much outweigh the benefits.  Also, in my opponents source, I could find only 52 side effects (contrary to his counted 110), 16 of which are actually common.  If my opponent could please show me his card where he got 110 side effects, I would greatly appreciate it.

Opponent's Point 3: The Rod of Hermes/Caduceus/Staff of Aesculapius
My opponent also brings up the Rod of Hermes (the staff with 2 snakes), and the Staff of Aesculapius (staff with 1 snake).  Simply because some organizations use a Greek symbol doesn't mean that they practice pagan sorcery.  I don't really see how this provides any evidence for my opposing side, and if they could please elaborate as to their reasoning for this, I would greatly appreciate it in the following round.

Opponent's Point 4: Pokemon?
I also don't understand how this pertains to the argument.  I won't humor this argument, simply because of how ridiculous it actually is.  If one of my opponent's sources comes from literal video game logic, my opponent should reassess what they believe a reliable source is.  Might I remind my opponent that Pokemon games value a glass of lemonade at about $350, and the player can hold a bike and fishing rod in their backpack.

Opponents Point 5: Farxiga and its recall
My opponent mentioned the unintended consequences of the Farxiga, and claims that it lacks effectiveness.  To address the point about the genital infection, which is formally called Fournier's gangrene, yes, 12 people (about 0.000007% of SGLT2 users) had suffered from this condition from 2013 to 2018, with one fatality due to the condition.  However, my opponent has failed to recognize the circumstances under which these infections occurred.  We've known that Farxiga inhibitors increase risk for Fournier's gangrene since 2013, and those who requested the medicine bore the responsibility of being aware of its possible side effects.

As for it being "snake oil", my opponent has once again glossed over the bigger picture.  Farxiga's effect isn't only to reduce the risk of a major cardiovascular event, as it was created simply to lower A1C.  Also, if my opponent has taken time to look at their source for that card, they would have seen that it lowers risk of death more significantly than placebo.

Opponent's Point 6: Saturday Night Live
My opponent cites multiple skits from SNL.  I won't humor this point, simply because it contains no empirical evidence within it, making my opponent's point completely invalid.

Opponent's Point 7: Oleocanthal vs. Chemotherapy
My opponent has mentioned the properties of olive oil, which has an anti-carcinogenic chemical in it that destroy cancer cells by opening their lysosomes.  This is also true; however, once again, my opponent hasn't fully grasped what this actually means.  While it's true oleocanthal has been shown to destroy cancerous cells, this has never been replicated outside of a laboratory.  Biologists have yet to determine whether olive oil actual cures cancer in humans.  Therefore, while we should definitely research better solutions, things such as chemotherapy and radiotherapy, while risky, can ultimately be lifesaving for some.

Because of the lack of reliable sources in my opponent's case, and for the reasons listed above, I urge a con ballot in this debate.

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2019-03-24 02:14:14
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Cross-Examination
Acer: Do you believe that modern medicine is sorcery?
crossed: no but poison
crossed: i change my mine yes modern medicen is sorcery but im argueing that it is poision and i only have proof of a tiny bit of sorrcery not enough to debate about. and i must have forgot to source the mayo clinic for proza side effects from copy and pasteing this arguement so much i must have forgot to source it https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/fluoxetine-oral-route/side-effects/drg-20063952
Acer: Why did human life expectancy increase 70-80% in the 20th-21st century?
crossed: . the life expentancy was of a person in the 1800s and 1900s was around 40 this is because firsly woman died during pregnecy because doctors did not wear gloves and people worked themselfs to death http://www.demog.berkeley.edu/~andrew/1918/figure2.html
crossed: and children were mostly used for slave labor and had to clean chimmneys which cut 40ish years from there life people were unsanitary. people worked themselfs to death. people did not die in there 30s in the 1800s because there was bad medicen but because they worked themselfs to death.https://www.verywellhealth.com/longevity-throughout-history-2224054 cowboys esspecially and 1900s it grew from 40 to 70 because people did not work themeselfs to death anymore
crossed: heres is a question why did they create the modern word pharmacutical based off of the word pharmakon/pharmakeus which means poisioning with drugs and sorrcery you may have to scroll a bit to find it. this is a dictionary site this is what you see when you look up this word. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/pharmaceutical
Acer: Because the other origin comes from the Latin "pharmakeus", which means purveyor of drugs (that came from your source). Either way, I find this point irrelevant, because the Greek origin has no pertinence to the meaning today.
Acer: Do you think the medicine is prescribed with the intent to harm?
crossed: yes medication is intended for harm. and you need to scroll a bit more down for a much clearer view the defenition of pharmacutical you got that from the british word of origin of the word pharmacutical which only talks about how it was derived from the greek work pharmakeus purvior of drugs pharmakues means sorrcery and a bunch of weird potion stuff and drugging religeon and effects check out the american one below it. it goes in more detail. pharmacues means this https://biblehub.com/greek/5332.htm

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crossedcrossed (PRO)

im sorry i have been really bussy not been able to debate issues popped up started drafting this when only 12 minutes remained


firstly con seems to believe that these pharmaceutical worst are like 2000 years old when there really barley one hundred.but lets look at the definition of the word pharmaceutical. why are these modern words based off such evilness

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/pharmaceutical

pharmaceutical in British


  (ˌfɑːməˈsjuːtɪkəl
 
 ) orless commonly pharmaceutic adjective
 of or relating to drugs or pharmacy
 
 
 Collins English Dictionary Copyright ©

HarperCollins Publishers
 
 
 
 
 
 Derived forms
 pharmaceutically (ˌpharmaˈceutically) adverb
 
 
 
 
 
 Word origin of 'pharmaceutical'
 C17: from Late Latin
pharmaceuticus, from Greek pharmakeus purveyor of drugs; see pharmacy
 

nothing to weird but pharmakeus means

a person using drug-based incantations or drugging religious enchantments; a pharmakeus-practitioner
  who "mixes up distorted religious potions" like a sorcerer-magician.
 They try to "work their magic" by performing pseudo "supernatural" stunts, weaving illusions
  about the Christian life to use "powerful" religious formulas
 ("incantations") that manipulate the Lord into granting more temporal
 gifts (especially "invincible health and wealth"). This has a
 "drugging" effect on the aspiring religious zealot, inducing them to
 think they have "special spiritual powershttps://biblehub.com/greek/5332.htm


ok then we get here and it is like wtf

pharmaceutical in American


  (ˌfɑrməˈsutɪkəl
 
 ;ˌfɑrməˈsjutɪkəl
 
 )
 
 
 
 

 
 adjective1.
  of pharmacy or pharmacists .of or by drugs: Also ˌpharmaˈceutic
 
  noun.
  a pharmaceutical product; drug
 
 
 Webster’s New World College Dictionary, 4th Edition. Copyright © 2010 by
 Houghton Mifflin Harcourt.

All rights reserved.
 
 
 
 
 Derived forms
  pharmaceutically (ˌpharmaˈceutically)
  adverb
 
 
 
 
 
 Word origin of 'pharmaceutical'
 LL pharmaceuticus < Gr pharmakeutikos < pharmakeuein, to practice  witchcraft, use medicine < pharmakon, a poison, medicine


what do you mean sorcery and poison


aborted babies are one of the ingredients in vaccineshttps://vaxopedia.org/2018/04/08/which-vaccines-contain-aborted-baby-parts/https://www.verywellhealth.com/do-vaccines-contain-aborted-fetal-tissue-260337
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=aborted+babies+in+vacines&t=ffab&atb=v133-4__&ia=web
https://www.naturalnews.com/038873_childhood_vaccines_aborted_babies_DNA.html


there  has been a lot of propaganda put out about this topic for example ABC  news has wrote an article on the subject and it basically says the  aborted babies in vaccines are not bad for you even religious leader  like the pope say aborted babies in vaccines should not deter you from  getting the shot. no jokehttps://abcnews.go.com/Health/aborted-fetuses-vaccines/story?id=29005539


REBUTTAL




it is not bad because it is rare
yes  some of these drugs are rare but you are bound to get one of these  awful things if you take one of these drugs because there are so many  side effects. and lets not forget millions of people are taking them  which is a lot of people effected from these prescription drugs
in fact over 100 thousand people die from prescription drugs each year and is the fourth leading cause of death in the USA
https://newspunch.com/100000-deaths-per-year-in-the-u-s-caused-by-prescription-drugs/

and prescription drugs are more dangerous than illegal drugshttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/wicked-deeds/201404/prescription-drugs-are-more-deadly-street-drugshttps://www.blvdcenters.org/blog/street-drugs-or-prescription-drugs

people need prescription drugs to function

firstly  prescription drugs kill more than the disease that it is trying to  prevent i have already pointed out that more than 100 thousand people  each year die from this poison. secondly it is evil that these pills  create a dependence on them that if you take them you could die. thirdly  most pills can be replaced with herbs. and in 2009 its an old article  there were 4.6 million cases of people going to the emergency room  because of prescription drugs most taken just as prescribed. is 2019 its  probely ten times worst then back then
https://www.newsmax.com/health/Health-Wire/most-prescribed-antidepressant-medications/2015/09/02/id/673123/https://herbal-healer.com/why-herbs-and-not-drugs

con saysSo should we ban air transportation because bad things might happen? No, because that would be silly. You   can make anything look scary by listing off all the bad things in the   world that might happen, that's fear-mongering, not science. You have to weigh the likelihood of side effects against the consequences of outlawing prescriptions entirely.

flesh eating of the genitals

they have only had 12 cases identified there could be more

and the examples of other dangerous things that con list have nothing on prescription medication thoughts of sucide stopping of the heart yellow skin and eyes

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2019-04-03 02:11:55
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  • Unrated debate
  • Time to post: 1 week
  • Time to vote: 2 weeks
  • Time to prepare: None
  • Time for cross-examination: 3 days