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Islam is a religion of peace

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RXR.RXR. (PRO)
Peaceful Quran quotes: The Quran is often misinterpreted by the main stream media as being a book violence and destruction. But as such fail to acknowledge the many peaceful quotes it provides as shown below.

"the taking of one innocent life is like taking all of Mankind... and the saving of one life is like saving all of Mankind" - Holy Qur'an, 5:33.

"It may be that Allah will bring about love between you and those of them with whom you are now at enmity... Allah forbids you not respecting those who have not fought against you on account of your religion, and who have not driven you out from your homes, that you be kind to them and deal equitably with them; surely, Allah loves those who are equitable." - Holy Qur'an, 60:8-9

Those two quotes are just a small hand full of the non-evil quotes that proves Islam does not tolerate violence.

What scholars have to say about the Quran: 
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/09/0925_TVkoran.html

The link above shows that many scholars believe that the Quran is not a book of war. But the exact opposite. Imam Suleyman quotes 

"The Koran is saying to humans, this is the final guidance from your Creator, for the specific purpose of worshipping him and creating a civil society where you can live in peace with one another,"

Another quote by an Islam Scholar (Abdullah Khouj) quotes "You do not kill innocent people, you do not cheat, you do not lie, you do not destroy any property of other human beings,"

5 Pillars: 



The 5 pillars of Islam is the life-style of a average muslim life. You see here in this picture, that Islam does promote peace by telling muslims to donate to the poor and by becoming faithful to their religion. 

In Conclusion: Islam is a religion of peace but is often mistaken by the media as being a barbaric religion. But that is often not the case. Instead it is the exact opposite.


 

Return To Top | Posted:
2015-08-27 05:41:05
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genesis01genesis01 (CON)
It's generally accepted that the holy book of Islam is the Qu'ran. [1] This being said, the Qu'ran is the basis of Islam and contains all the teachings and such. Comparable to the US Constitution being the basis of American law. 

Violent Qu'ran verses
There are many violent verses in the Qu'ran which prove that Islam is anything but a religion of peace.

-"And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" Quran (2:191-193)

This verse explicitly states that disbelief is WORSE than killing, this is anything but peaceful.

-"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Quran (8:12)

Casting terror into disbelieves and mutilating them certainly isn't peaceful to any reasonable person. 

Quran (2:216) -"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." 

The fact that fighting is prescribed in Islam, and that even if you dislike it, you must do it according to this verse.

Quran (9:14) -"Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people."
Quran (9:73) -"O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."
Quran (9:123) -"O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?

Here are some more verses from the Qu'ran only proving my point. 

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"
These are explicit words from Muhammad, the prophet of Islam. 

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 484: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

[8.65] O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand [in other words, do not understand totalitarian ideologies likeIslam]. [8.66] ...if there are a hundred patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a thousand they shall overcome two thousand byAllah's permission... [8.67] It is not fit for a prophet that he should take captives unless he has fought and triumphed in the land; you desire the frail goods [i.e., ransom money] of this world... [8.68] ...ransom... [8.69] Eat then of the lawful and good (things) which you have acquired in war [war spoils]...[8.70] O Prophet! say to those of the captives [non-Muslims] who are in your hands: IfAllah knows anything good in your hearts, He will give to you better than that which has been taken away from you [inJihad]...[8.71]Yusuf Ali: But if they have treacherous designs against thee, (O Apostle!)...He [Allah] given (thee) power over them...[8.72]Yusuf Ali: Those who ...fought for the Faith, with their property and their persons, in the cause of God...[8.73]Yusuf Ali: The Unbelievers are protectors, one of another: Unless ye do this, (protect each other), there would be tumult and oppression on earth, and great mischief. [8.74]Yusuf Ali:...fight for the Faith...[8.75]Yusuf Ali: ...fight for the Faith...

"Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"Quran (4:95)

66:009 O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them...
Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews [compare " with "whenever Jews kindle fire for war, Allah [Muslims] puts it out" (K 005:064)] and those who are polytheists [while they are converted toIslam on pain of death]...

This verse even proves my points, that polytheists should be converted to Islam or die. 

There are countless other violent verses, as I could go on. 

[8.65]O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand [in other words, "do not understand totalitarian ideologies like Islam"]. [8.66] For the presentAllah has made light your burden, and He knows that there is weakness in you; soif there are a hundred patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a thousand they shall overcome two thousand by Allah's permission, andAllah is with the patient. [8.67]It is not fit for a prophet that he should take captives unless he has fought and triumphed in the land; you desire the frail goods [i.e., ransom money] of this world, whileAllah desires (for you) the hereafter; andAllah is Mighty, Wise. [8.68] Had it not been for a previous ordainment [i.e., the revelation ofK 008:067] from God, a severe penalty would have reached you for the (ransom) that you took [or better, "would have taken"]. [8.69]Eat then of the lawful and good (things) which you have acquired in war [war spoils], and be careful of (your duty to)Allah; surelyAllah is Forgiving, Merciful. [8.70]O Prophet! say to those of the captives [non-Muslims] who are in your hands: If Allah knows anything good in your hearts, He will give to you better than that which has been taken away from you [in Jihad]and will forgive you, andAllah is Forgiving, Merciful. [8.71]Yusuf Ali:But if they have treacherous designs against thee, (O Apostle!), they have already been in treason against God, and so hath [has]He [Allah] given (thee) power over them. And God so He Who hath (full) knowledge and wisdom. [8.72]Yusuf Ali:Those who believed, and adopted exile, andfought for the Faith, with their property and their persons, in the cause of God, as well as those who gave (them) asylum and aid, - these are (all) friends and protectors, one of another. As to those who believed but came not into exile, ye [you] owe no duty of protection to them until they come into exile; but if they seek your aid in religion, it is your duty to help them, except against a people with whom ye have a treaty of mutual alliance. And (remember) God seeth [sees] all that ye do. [8.73]Yusuf Ali:The Unbelievers are protectors, one of another: Unless ye do this, (protect each other), there would be tumult and oppression on earth, and great mischief. [8.74]Yusuf Ali: Those who believe, and adopt exile, andfight for the Faith, in the cause of God as well as those who give (them) asylum and aid, - these are (all) in very truth the Believers: for them is the forgiveness of sins and a provision most generous. [8.75]Yusuf Ali: And those who accept Faith subsequently, and adopt exile, andfight for the Faith in your company,—they are of you. But kindred by blood have prior rights against each other in the Book of God. Verily God is well acquainted with all things.

If Islam really were a religion of peace, why are there so many verses in the Qu'ran that promote violence and war? 



Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_holy_books
The Qu'ran

Return To Top | Posted:
2015-08-27 16:30:18
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RXR.RXR. (PRO)
-"And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" Quran (2:191-193)

 ---> ''and turn them out from where they have turned you out.''
This quote is talking about defending your self from invaders and to attack the people who have taken land from you. 

Quran (2:216) -"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

 Fighting what exactly ? It could mean many things like fighting yourself from commiting sin.

Quran (9:14) -"Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people."
Quran (9:73) -"O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."
Quran (9:123) -"O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?


All 4 of these quotes are talking about defending your-self for a second time. Like here 


''fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.''


During Muhammed's time, a local tribe would often kill the Muslims for not believing in their religion. So Muhammed would often use this quote to tell his people to protect themselves. Also in the quote the ''unbelievers'' are the local tribe that killed the muslims. Furthermore it is not about killing non-muslims but in fact the exact opposite.


Now i'm not going to respond to all of con's quotes.(Cause i don't have the time). However i'm just going to say that all the quotes are just misinterpretations.  









Return To Top | Posted:
2015-08-30 05:36:39
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genesis01genesis01 (CON)

Q. How do you separate Muslim Men from Muslim Boys?
A. With a crowbar.
Q. What do you call a Muslim with half a brain?
A. Gifted.
How many Muslims does it take to change a light bulb?
None. Their faith doesn’t allow change.
A Muslim walks into a welfare office with a dirty, filthy parrot on his shoulder. The parrot’s feathers are falling off, its beak is broken, and it looks to have been horribly injured.
The social worker looks in disgust and asks, “Oh my God, where did you get that ugly thing?”
The parrot replies, “PAKISTAN.”
Q: What are the three greatest lies?
A:
1. I’m from the government, I’m here to help you.
2. The cheque is in the mail.
3. Islam is the religion of peace.
Two Muslim men are sitting on a park bench when an 8-year-old walks past, and one turns to the other and says,
“Wow, I bet she was hot in her day.”
Q: What’s the ugliest thing on a 6 year old Muslim girl?
A: Her husband.
Q: What do Muslim men think is the best thing about having sex with twenty-eight year olds?
A: There’s 20 of them.
Q: Why did the prophet Mohammed go to kindergarten when he was 52 years old?
A: To pick up his wife.
Q: A car full of Pakistanis and a car full of Somalis are racing down a hill. They both fall off a cliff at the same time, who wins?
A: Civilization.
Q: How come most unmarried Muslim men do not use condoms?
A: Little boys can’t get pregnant.
You might be a Taliban if you’d rather have your daughter raped than have an education.
Q: Why do Muslims smell worse than dung?
A: So blind people can hate them too.
Q: What should I do about the Muslim hanging out in my back yard?
A: Cut him down from the tree.
Abdul goes to a local Burger King and asks for 2 Whoppers, the cashier says,
“Mohammed was not a bloodthirsty pedophile and Islam is a religion of peace.”
Q: What did Mohammed say to his father-in-law when Aisha turned 10?
A: I’ll swap you a ten for two fives.
Q: What did the judge say when the Fort Hood shooter’s lawyer brought up the insanity plea?
A: Yes, we all know he is a Muslim, what else have you got?
Supposedly they are making land mines now that look like prayer mats. I hear “prophets” are going through the roof.
So I read this headline in a UK paper:
“Pakistani men target young white girls for sex”
Can you really blame them? Have you SEEN Pakistani women?
A lion in the zoo was lying in the sun licking its bum when a visitor turned to the zoo keeper and said, “That’s a docile old thing isn’t it?”
“No way,” said the zoo keeper, “it’s the most ferocious beast in the zoo. Why just an hour ago it dragged a Muslim into the cage and completely devoured him.”
“Hardly seems possible” said the astonished visitor, “but why is it lying there licking its bum?”
“The poor thing is trying to get the bad taste out of its mouth.”
A little girl is standing on top of a cliff, looking down at the sea and crying her eyes out. A Muslim cleric approaches and says,
“My child, why are you so upset?” The little girl turns to him and says,
“My mommy and daddy were in their car – and it just rolled over the cliff and smashed on the rocks down there.”
The imam slowly looks around him, lifts his robe and takes out his langer and says,
“It’s just not your day, is it?”
A Muslim farmer walks into his wife’s bedroom with a sheep under his arm and says,
“Just wanted to show you the pig I’ve been screwing behind your back.”
The wife says, “that’s not a pig you fool, its a sheep.”
The Muslim farmer says, “I wasn’t talking to you.”
Q. What do you call a Muslim who owns a camel and a goat?
A. Bisexual.
Q. How do Muslims practice safe sex?
A. They mark the camels that kick.
Q. What do Tehran and Hiroshima have in common?
A. Nothing, yet.
Q. What do you call a Muslim who owns 6 goats?
A. A pimp.
Q: How do you tell a Sunni from a Shiite?
A: The Sunnis are the ones with the Shiite blown out of them.
Q. What’s the hardest part about a Muslim killing his own daughter?
A. Suppressing the erection.
Q: How can you tell if a Muslim girl is old enough to marry?
A: Make her stand in a barrel. If her chin is over the top, she’s old enough. If it isn’t, cut the barrel down until her chin is over the top.
Q. What’s the difference between a Muslim and a vampire?
A. At some point the vampire will stop being bloodthirsty.
A Muslim walks into his local mosque with a big grin on his face.
“What are you so happy about, Abdul?” Asks the Imam.
“Well, I’ll tell you,” replies Abdul. “I live by the railroad tracks and on my way home last night, I noticed a young woman tied to the rails, like in the American movies. I cut her free and took her back to my humble abode. Allah be praised – we made love all night. We did everything, me on top, sometimes her on top, every position permitted by Mohammed, Peace Be Upon Him!”
“By the most Merciful,” exclaimed the Imam, “you have been blessed. Was she as beautiful as a desert flower?”
Abdul grimaced, “By the Jinn, I do not know – I never found her head.”
Q. What’s the difference between ET and Muslims?
A. ET got the point and went home.
Q. Why are there only 2 pallbearers at a Muslim funeral?
A. There’s only 2 handles on a garbage can.
Q. What do you say to a Pakistani at Christmas?
A. A quart of milk, a loaf of bread and a pack of Marlboros please.
Q. What do you call a bus with 2 Somalis falling off a cliff?
A. A waste, you could have fit at least 50 in the bus!
Q. When’s the only time you should wink at a Muslim?
A. When aiming.
Q. What can Saudi Arabia do to raise the average IQ in the country?
A. Allow Jews to come in.
A Russian, a Cuban, an Englishman and a Pakistani are on a train.
The Russian takes out a bottle of his best vodka, drinks a bit and throws the rest off the train and says, “There’s plenty more of that where I come from.”
Everyone is impressed. The Cuban takes out one of the finest Havana cigars, takes one puff and throws it off the train and says, “There’s plenty more of those where I come from.”
Again everyone is rather impressed.
So the Englishman stands up and throws the Pakistani off the train.
Q: What’s the difference between Dar al-Islam and Dannon yogurt?
A: The yogurt has a living culture.
“A man goes into a library and asks for a book on suicide…. The librarian recommends the Quran.”
This is patently untrue. Libraries do not lend books to Muslims on how to do suicide bombings, no one brings the books back.
Q: Give an alternate book title for “Religion for dummies”?
A: The Quran.
A journalist goes to Iraq and is surprised to see that the local men allow their wives to walk in front of them. The journalist approaches a local and says, “I thought the custom in Islamic countries was for wives to walk ten paces behind their husbands?”
“It was,” replied the local, “But that all changed with the war.”
“How did the war change things?” The journalist enquired.
The local replied, “Land mines.”
Abdul: “Mahmood, I don’t like the way you drive.”
Mahmood: “OK, I’ll hold the detonator and you drive.”
A Muslim wife has just given birth to a little girl.
The father asks the doctor how long it will be before he can have sex.
The doctor says, “For fuck’s sake, Abdul, at least wait until the child can walk.”
Q: What’s the worst thing about arranged marriages in Islam?
A: No matter who you get, you still end up with a Muslim.
Q: How many Muslims can you fit on a Boeing 747?
A: Who cares – as long as they leave.
A Muslim father is in the bath with his 3-year-old son.
Child: “Daddy, why is my willy different from yours?”
Father: “Well son, for a start, yours isn’t erect.”
A Muslim pedophile and a small child are walking through the woods. It’s very stormy, with lightning spearing the sky and crashing thunder. The child looks up at the Muslim and says “I’m scared”.
The Muslim says, “You think you’ve got it bad? I’ve got to walk back on my own!”
A new poll just came out in Pakistan: 9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape.
I hear there’s a document published with the names of people that are racists and bigots. These people want to spread hatred and terror throughout the world. The name of the document? The Quran.
Q: What do you call a Muslim desperate for a drink?
A: Allah Vabeer
A popular bar in Bahrain had a new robotic bartender installed, to make serving drinks more efficient.
A guy came in for a drink and the robot asked him, “What’s your IQ?” The man replied, “140.” So the robot proceeded to make conversation about string theory and the latest cancer research.
Another guy came in for a drink and the robot asked him, “What’s your IQ?” The man responded, “120.” So the robot started talking about the controversies surrounding creationism and the abortion argument.
A third guy came in to the bar. As with the others, the robot asked him, “What’s your IQ?” The man replied, “65.” The robot then said, “So, how are things in Saudi Arabia these days?”
Little Ahmed: “Ema, ema, can I lick the bowl clean?”
Mother: “No, just flush it like everyone else.”
Q: What do you do if you see five Muslims up to their waists in concrete?
A: Pour more concrete.
Q: What did God say after creating Muslims?
A: “I can do better.”
Q: Muslim women think about having children. What do Muslim men think about?
A: Screwing children.
It’s easy to understand suicide bombers. It’s the only real choice: to live your entire life as a Muslim or commit suicide; a no-brainer when you come down to it.
Apparently, sniffer dogs can no longer sniff Muslims at airports any more because they believe they are dirty, unclean animals.
I agree with the sniffer dogs.
Q: What’s the difference between a Muslim woman and a basketball team?
A: The basketball team showers after four periods.
Q: How do you stop an Egyptian tank?
A: Shoot the bastards pushing it.



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2015-08-30 23:20:45
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genesis01genesis01 (CON)
신은 위대
Бог велик
上帝是伟大的
神は素晴らしいです
Бог чудовий
ईश्वर महान है
Бурхан агуу юм



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@Khuziyad - This debate is already taken ... you'd have to start a new debate on the same topic.
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How do I get in on the debate?
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I'm I allowed to vote?
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That's no problem at all, I'm happy to abstain if you want me to.
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@admin i'd rather debate someone with less experience though, I haven't debated that much on other sites.
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If this is untaken in a day or two, you can expect me to take it XD Just want to give others the chance first as I seem to do too many debates.
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Previous Judgments

2015-09-07 05:33:47
adminJudge: admin    TOP JUDGE
Win awarded to: RXR.
2015-09-29 03:51:28
Mike HatcherJudge: Mike Hatcher
Win awarded to: RXR.
Reasoning:
It was going fine until genesis01 gave up by pulling massive amounts of racist jokes.

Feedback:
Looking more into the word of "fighting" and seeing that it can justify war, crimes, and violence, since it is being used in a arbitrary sense where there is no standard for what type of fighting should be done or regulations for the fighting, etc
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2015-09-13 09:08:22
SrivatsJudge: Srivats
Win awarded to: RXR.
2015-09-11 15:48:51
TejreticsJudge: Tejretics
Win awarded to: RXR.
Reasoning:
Con concedes.
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2015-09-08 13:27:41
dhruv guptaJudge: dhruv gupta
Win awarded to: RXR.
Reasoning:
Gensis01 failed to reply properly to RXR's claim that the quotes were misinterpretations. He started with jokes of Questions and answers which was nice but is not going to make him win the debate.
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