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Need help with notifications. - Posted by admin 2019-04-17 11:02:37
... are you deleting them by pressing an X ? If so I think it's a bug and I will fix it right now. Let me know if it still happens.
my cross examination in a debaye will not end - Posted by admin 2019-04-08 11:18:16
Thanks for letting me know. I'll check this out asap. Sorry for the trouble everyone!
PHP update - Posted by admin 2019-04-05 21:29:22
Just fixed a few random update-related bugs; mostly database stuff. Sorry to anyone who has lost drafts because of this!
PHP update - Posted by admin 2019-03-29 05:18:00
If you can read this, it is working :)
PHP update - Posted by admin 2019-03-29 04:57:19
So today I'll be upgrading from PHP 5 to PHP 7. PHP is the code language that powers edeb8. Newer versions should be faster and safer. I'm 99% sure the site should be resiliant enough but I'm d...
Brexit - Posted by admin 2019-03-21 03:56:24
Spoiler alert: nothing will change.
What do you believe and why? - Posted by admin 2019-03-18 04:14:14
To be fair, the Earth existed before insects did.
Brexit - Posted by admin 2019-03-16 21:17:30
I think it's hilarious that so many eastern-block nations spent ages trying to get into the EU, and now western Europe is trying to get out. It makes you question whether the western nations really be...
Hello! - Posted by admin 2019-03-16 20:56:16
I still try to check in once every few days. I think the site got a bit bloated so I'm working to make it more user-friendly too, but it's slow progress.
Brexit - Posted by admin 2019-03-16 00:19:11
What's your view on the nonsense?
Debate Questions: - Posted by admin 2019-03-14 06:25:11
Also this slightly hidden feature of edeb8 I coded ages ago: http://www.edeb8.com/random-debate-topic
New forum rule - Posted by admin 2019-02-18 04:53:49
Would anyone object terribly if I added some code to prevent people posting just URLs as a thread title? Seems like it's always spam when that happens.
What do you believe and why? - Posted by admin 2019-02-09 09:40:36
Let me know if you'd be up for a debate about it :)
Scored v. Unscored - Posted by admin 2019-02-05 09:10:48
I should add, though, that we do have an "unrated" option already for casual debates, which doesn't affect your record.
What do you believe and why? - Posted by admin 2019-02-05 09:09:35
So basically you believe in Christianity because you believe in giants and think biology is hard?
Scored v. Unscored - Posted by admin 2019-02-05 09:05:08
I agree that awesome judgments should have a coaching component. It's almost like adding a layer of feed-forward to the feedback already asked for by the site. I still think all debates should ha...
2018 - Posted by admin 2019-01-25 20:58:55
I kinda wonder if I should take stuff Trump says very seriously.
2018 - Posted by admin 2019-01-11 22:22:00
What would you say was the most significant news story of the past year?
Remove A judging thread pls - Posted by admin 2019-01-11 22:06:45
I just judged it. Is there any reason why you can't?
Wolverine Game - Posted by admin 2019-01-08 00:04:28
Probably not. I'm also moving house at the moment.
Wolverine Game - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 23:42:18
You're definitely not the first person to try to get Mafia-style games to become popular. :)
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 15:38:21
I've been winning the "first post wins" thread for 4 years. Just saying. http://www.edeb8.com/forum/Games/374
Important: For anyone who logs in with Google + - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 01:42:51
Because Google+ is retiring, you may not soon be able to log into your account. Please change your passwords etc or contact me so I can help you switch to another login method for the site. ...
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:47:35
The actual reason I came back was just so I could momentarily win this game.
How to debate: - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:46:13
Bumping this.
What Fallacy is this? - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:45:35
Yeah, it sounds like an appeal to extremes with a comparison. Which also makes it an unfair comparison.
What is the "four positions" setting? - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:44:08
If you want to, there's no reason why the BP system couldn't be used for 4 positions, as long as this was explained in the additional rules for the debate.
Black Lives Matter, - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:42:09
How can a movement not be valid?
The passing of Lannan - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:41:50
I heard about this when nzlockie reached out to me a while ago. Really sad. Lannan was a fun debater and I miss him.
Communalism - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:40:45
Would you like to begin the discussion?
Help with arguments - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:40:26
Have you looked up right to privacy stuff online? Privacy is a big principle.
Admin, where are you? - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:38:22
A possible fix has been put up now. :)
Question - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:31:40
I believe the ancient Chinese master Chi Ting once acquired an elo score of infinity.
ADMIN WHER ARE YOU - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:30:25
Darn. I hope he comes back soon.
My debates are being taken down - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:27:31
That's super weird of them.
Admin, where are you? - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:25:23
It's weird, I thought all the tournament code was disabled. It did have quite a lot of bugs. I'll take a look.
Admin, where are you? - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:24:43
Thank you so much for helping out! :)
Admin, where are you? - Posted by admin 2019-01-07 00:24:07
To be fair, it was more like two months ago. :P
Updates in progress - Posted by admin 2018-02-28 02:13:53
Awesome, thanks :)
Updates in progress - Posted by admin 2018-02-27 09:11:40
Tell me if it's better now when you get a chance? Pretty please? I'm also tracking a bug with group forums ... once that's done I consider this particular update to be finished.
Updates in progress - Posted by admin 2018-02-27 09:02:23
Oh, shoot. Sorry about that. Will check that asap.
Updates in progress - Posted by admin 2018-02-25 12:41:19
Ok people of Edeb8 ... tell me if your headers are all messed up now.
Updates in progress - Posted by admin 2018-02-23 22:50:47
New updates are here: > Made various edits to the site theme > Fixed a bug with some links on debates > Decommissioned the old tournaments page > Improved character counting when p...
What was your first debate like? - Posted by admin 2018-02-15 10:34:52
My first online debate, if I recall correctly, was about whether we should abolish nuclear weapons, and was held on another site. I already had some formal real-life experience at that point so I foll...
***NOTICE*** - Posted by admin 2018-02-14 04:29:56
Truly a great milestone.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2018-02-14 03:40:38
Brains take a lot of shortcuts in terms of day-to-day decision making. That's why really dumb marketing is often really effective. But truth isn't really about the decisions we make, but rather what i...
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2018-02-13 09:46:52
So like, yes, there is an objective world out there and it's testable to a degree. But scientific theories are only as good as what we think we've understood about the world so far. Anyone who cl...
Terrible Haircut Stories. - Posted by admin 2018-02-13 04:23:00
On an aside, also pictured in this photo is a younger Max Harris, who recently wrote a book called The New Zealand Project which caused a minor stir.
Terrible Haircut Stories. - Posted by admin 2018-02-13 03:28:13
I didn't know hair grew in sizes that small
Anyone here played D&D before? - Posted by admin 2018-02-13 03:17:54
The new 5e kind? I'm so behind the times with my old-fashioned pathfinder-type games.
Cubing - Posted by admin 2018-02-13 03:15:17
Nice
Terrible Haircut Stories. - Posted by admin 2018-02-13 03:14:45
How much shorter than a buzzcut can you get before it's just "bald" ?
Size - Posted by admin 2018-02-01 08:21:24
You mean Edeb8 is comparable to the fan club of one of the most powerful gods who also happens to look a lot like Gandalf? That's fine too.
Size - Posted by admin 2018-02-01 07:16:18
I consider that a good thing. Quality of users > quantity of users.
Gay marriage: mating and mating less - Posted by admin 2018-02-01 07:13:32
The traditional institution of marriage acknowledges that a man and a woman have mated with each other, regardless of accuracy of any particular marriage. What about childless male-female couples?
Civid - Posted by admin 2018-02-01 07:12:02
As per usual, my policy is to leave things up unless there's a good reason to take them down. Also, people can ask me directly if they want me to do something :) Interesting that he considers ede...
How to request a feature or send a bug report - Posted by admin 2018-01-19 21:24:42
I don't really have an exact timeframe for anything. Basically I grant a request if I start coding for it. That depends a lot on my coding availability. Since it's just me, some things could take a lo...
Interesting article about racism and debate - Posted by admin 2018-01-09 04:32:00
Thought people here would be interested in this also :) https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-informed-civility-is-the-latest-target-in-the-campus-wars-1514938758
Intel security issue - Posted by admin 2018-01-08 10:24:45
Yip, it killed the database server. Thankfully everything should be back to normal now.
Intel security issue - Posted by admin 2018-01-07 03:59:41
The CPU issue also affects our server. Update should be installed shortly. Please note any bugs to me that crop up from the server restart.
2018 - Posted by admin 2018-01-07 03:58:44
I didn't make a happy new year thread. Here's one posted about a week afterwards. :D
Spam factoid - Posted by admin 2018-01-03 03:42:52
This has nothing to do with anything, but I thought it was interesting that the most common places IP addresses originate from which have spammed our "Contact Us" form are, in order: Bu...
Happy New Year! - Posted by admin 2017-12-31 22:11:39
Hope everyone has an awesome 2018 :)
1000 completed debates - Posted by admin 2017-12-24 02:30:14
Yay for another milestone for the site! I'm hoping to finish a site update within a couple of days.
A fetus is a human - Posted by admin 2017-12-24 02:28:00
Great. I'll send you a challenge after Christmas! :)
A fetus is a human - Posted by admin 2017-12-23 22:41:53
Would you like to debate me on abortion sometime?
Merry Christmas! - Posted by admin 2017-12-23 22:40:26
What are you doing to celebrate? I'm just chilling low-key at home with my mum and my brother.
Reminder about Christmas - Posted by admin 2017-12-19 22:52:46
You can get a free badge just by logging in on Christmas! I think I may be the only one with this badge currently, so it would be nice to celebrate with you guys this year! :)
Swearing - Posted by admin 2017-12-19 22:51:45
Warning: profanity is banned in the terms of service. Doing that again could put your account in jeopardy.
Spot the lie - Posted by admin 2017-12-15 22:09:29
I'd say it's 1.
Spot the lie - Posted by admin 2017-12-14 21:55:11
Number 2 if you must know. I have, in fact, ridden on a horse. Echo Four wins! Any one else want to offer 3 statements? :)
The First Game Mafia (Sign-ups) - Posted by admin 2017-12-14 21:36:29
Well, I mean, I could try but you'll be sure to be disappointed. I'm not exactly known for always being on time with things.
The First Game Mafia (Sign-ups) - Posted by admin 2017-12-07 22:15:48
I support this game, although I probably won't be able to play
About how many active members are there? - Posted by admin 2017-12-07 21:21:56
It varies, of course.
I made some things - Posted by admin 2017-12-07 21:21:10
I actually thought this was too hard too. I don't like this genre as I usually play strategy games. But my team really wanted to do something more arcade like. Thanks for your comments :)
Tournaments - Posted by admin 2017-12-06 02:17:35
@Mharman said to me in chat he'd prefer option 2.
I made some things - Posted by admin 2017-12-06 02:17:05
Ludum Dare game I mostly made, play it if you want your fingers to get sore: http://www.edeb8.com/LD40/submission.php
Tournaments - Posted by admin 2017-12-06 02:14:52
There's been quite a few bugs with tournaments recently. Therefore I've decided to rewrite the tournament code. This may affect existing tournaments so I'm wondering whether people would prefer: ...
Short Jokes - Posted by admin 2017-12-06 02:11:25
I made some holy water today. It's easy - I just had to boil the hell out of it.
The UK hates young white men - Posted by admin 2017-11-23 02:04:15
This poll sounds remarkably racially charged. Like it's designed to make some groups look bad.
Color of the year - Posted by admin 2017-11-17 00:14:56
Why?
Color of the year - Posted by admin 2017-11-16 03:29:08
What color would you most want to see added?
Some updates - Posted by admin 2017-11-14 21:04:56
People should have spoken up when I made the necroposting thread XD To win that thread they now also need to convince me to change my mind on this issue ;)
Special thanks - Posted by admin 2017-11-12 23:28:06
To @Mharman for keeping the shoutbox alive :D
Some updates - Posted by admin 2017-11-12 23:27:06
> PDF renderer updated. Now handles unicode much better, uses a more modern generation engine based on wkhtmltopdf, and is now consistent with the latest debate features like Lincoln-Douglas, Publi...
Catalonia Did It. - Posted by admin 2017-10-28 21:20:13
Hey, anyone remember what happened last time Spain had a civil war?
Founding document - Posted by admin 2017-10-23 15:09:41
I'd install myself as god-king, and everyone else beneath that known as "slaves." Joking aside, I like democracy. I'd have a democratically elected senate, passing laws, with binding re...
We had an election in NZ... - Posted by admin 2017-10-23 15:05:43
A party that got barely over 5% of the vote, managed to get enough influence to have its leader installed as deputy prime minister. How could we better ensure representation without excluding min...
Necroposting - Posted by admin 2017-10-23 15:04:19
Should it be allowed?
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2017-10-23 15:03:51
I like how this is one of the oldest threads and still going.
Color of the year - Posted by admin 2017-10-23 15:02:26
Name a color and I'll turn it into a new official edeb8 color scheme, complete with background presets! :)
Big change - Posted by admin 2017-10-23 15:00:38
Behold the power of fixing issues with crontab on newer servers. We're on a cool VPS now so that means I've actually had to fix up a ton of my messy code. During a time when I was super busy with...
Update - Posted by admin 2017-10-09 21:00:32
Fixed critical bugs with emails not sending and a variety of other issues. Sorry for the delay pushing this out - I was SOOOO busy with my course.
The name Mohammad is given to sons to show respect - Posted by admin 2017-07-26 12:13:08
The Greek equivalent of Jesus is Joshua, and English-speaking countries just so happened to have adopted more of those conventions.
The name Mohammad is given to sons to show respect - Posted by admin 2017-07-26 12:11:45
I disagree a bit. If you go to very Christian places like Mexico, the name Jesus is not uncommon.
Big change - Posted by admin 2017-07-26 12:11:00
I believe, after extensive testing, all issues related to the move have been resolved.
Big change - Posted by admin 2017-07-24 20:16:15
Seems to be issues with sending emails. Am working on this.
Big change - Posted by admin 2017-07-24 12:30:55
Test
Big change - Posted by admin 2017-07-24 12:26:39
Edeb8 is now coming to you live from a VPS. This is the second major server change in our history and our first substantial upgrade! :) Kinda sucks this had to happen now of all times, but h...
Possible downtime today... - Posted by admin 2017-07-22 15:20:13
I might move bits of the site today to help fix some of the other broken things. Sorry guys.
About the downtime today... - Posted by admin 2017-07-14 14:02:45
Still fixing everyone's profiles. :)
How slow is Edeb8 for you? - Posted by admin 2017-07-14 05:13:13
Cool :D Yeah one bug down, two new ones come up.
About the downtime today... - Posted by admin 2017-07-10 13:03:38
Done. Am working on fixing debate format bugs this stupid and un-needed change introduced especially as pertains to how speech marks are displayed. Again sorry. Wish I could do more to fix it.
About the downtime today... - Posted by admin 2017-07-09 18:51:25
Yes - will get on to that after school today.
About the downtime today... - Posted by admin 2017-07-09 11:06:45
Also, sorted out a timezone issue with the server move
About the downtime today... - Posted by admin 2017-07-09 11:02:52
test
About the downtime today... - Posted by admin 2017-07-09 10:54:42
What happened? The web host decided to "upgrade" my server to another machine. In the process this broke a lot of stuff. He was also using an older database backup. Apparently the server i...
Is Christianity good for society? - Posted by admin 2017-07-08 13:15:23
Christians are conditioned to believe lies and think the rest of us suffer from the same mental defect. That in and of itself is a mindset, and a very dangerous one in my opinion, because it general...
Is Christianity good for society? - Posted by admin 2017-07-08 12:48:40
Well that fundamentalist churches are increasing in popularity is obvious, but I think you're missing my point, which is that the only way to fight fundamentalism is with moderation. If moderate churc...
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-07-08 02:33:28
Both of you, but especially Greatest I am - watch out for personal attacks. Keep it civil. If you want to go, just go. :)
Is Christianity good for society? - Posted by admin 2017-07-08 02:30:58
No I think Christianity is changing their marketing. If we're talking about Christianity as it largely exists today, that's going away. But you have to think how that might be different in future. I t...
How slow is Edeb8 for you? - Posted by admin 2017-07-04 00:33:23
Aside from being personally not cool with it, I don't really think we get the traffic for it. This past week has been a good one for traffic, and we've had 525 unique users visit the site. Assuming a ...
How slow is Edeb8 for you? - Posted by admin 2017-07-02 21:55:18
Ideally, the delay would be similar to the delay you'd get if I were to call you on a cellphone. In practice, what we have is WAY less than a cellphone network lol.
How slow is Edeb8 for you? - Posted by admin 2017-07-02 15:08:37
One of the trade-offs of having a site with zero income / having no money myself / the site being rather complex and full of bells+whistles is unfortunately that sometimes some slowness is inevitable,...
How slow is Edeb8 for you? - Posted by admin 2017-07-02 10:49:13
And are there any pages that are particularly slow? Or is it everywhere?
DDO Transfer pt 2 - Posted by admin 2017-07-02 10:39:46
Bump
DDO Historic Debates Initiative - Posted by admin 2017-07-02 09:20:59
The tricky part is that Google might still penalize us for having duplicate content.
DDO Transfer pt 2 - Posted by admin 2017-07-02 05:39:29
Available for a limited time 1. Go to your settings 2. Click the new DDO tab 3. Write out your DDO stats 4. Hit save changes To see how this currently looks, take a look at my profile ...
DDO Transfer - Posted by admin 2017-06-30 15:53:47
Wouldn't work because you'd have to have the historical Elo scores of every single person who anyone doing the transfer has ever debated with, in order to calculate Elo by edeb8's formula. I mean you ...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 14:41:08
FYI, if you do it as a reply to my post as opposed to a reply to the thread I get a notification :) I'm sorry if you feel like I was trying to alienate or dominate you. It's a fine line because o...
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 11:40:12
Also I just discovered this the other day. Thought I'd share: http://www.bricktestament.com/home.html Next time I do a religion debate I'll consider using this instead of my usual LOLcat Bible.
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 11:16:30
My presumption here is that the other Mary referred to here (Mary mother of James) is the same Mary who is also mother of Jesus. But I suppose it's an interesting reading that maybe Mary had a sister ...
DDO Transfer - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 08:30:19
Probably, somehow. Personally I wish I could preserve a few too.
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 08:26:05
Well that assumes there's a problem. You're certainly making it out as if there's one. The only worrying thing going on here is that you're not trying to make sense of what I'm saying and are leaving ...
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 03:13:52
My Bible's rendition of Matt. 27:61 doesn't even mention James. Interesting. You know, the Orthodox church has a big emphasis on all their feast days and stuff. And I still hear them talk less ab...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 01:14:38
I like the presumption there is no flaw in your argument unless somebody points one out using terms you can understand. That's an interesting kind of critical thinking. Your response has been ent...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 00:31:14
I have addressed this objection ad nauseam. You certainly have addressed it but the reason people (ie all three of us, of different actual beliefs regarding God) keep bringing it up to you is becaus...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 00:27:26
In a logical argument, premises are not separate. They are linked by conclusions. Just because you didn't make a conclusion doesn't mean it doesn't follow from your argument. At this point I think per...
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 12:44:23
Huh, I didn't know that. So do you think James wasn't Jesus' real brother or something? Put it this way - I've seen at least three giant white statues of Mary, all of them outside Catholic church...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 11:51:18
I can answer the quote thing. By default, if you copy-paste stuff into a reply box on the forums, it will automatically insert quote tags around the box. You can turn this off with the "Enab...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 11:41:20
Therefore human beings are contingent on cells. At a certain point you've admitted to me everything is contingent on a non-entity that for some reason doesn't meet the logical standards of your cla...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 11:39:19
I still feel like you're missing my point. Here your reply is much the same line as you've said previously. Why? That is nowhere in my syllogisms. Distinct and independent = an entity. You've ...
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 11:11:19
Well it's possible but then you have to remember, shortly after Jesus was born, Joseph had a bunch of other babies with Mary that were unquestionably Joseph's (the only alternative here is that Mary c...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 07:01:14
Because otherwise you'd have a contingent entity forever into infinity (not even a circular contingency would satisfy the logical conditions of your argument). That's not possible because infinity is ...
DDO Transfer - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 06:49:34
Ha, the profile page code is anything but. It's a mess. Over half of it is code to display the status updates. I really need to clean it sometime. Miss the days when you couldn't get away with code li...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 05:40:48
I think you're playing semantics because you and I have a different definition of a thing. Let me rephrase a critical part of my last post to satisfy you. It doesn't even particularly matter what...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 03:39:09
More like an argument why one premise cannot be true. It doesn't even particularly matter what the uncontingent thing is - the point is that there must be something that is uncontingent. For instance ...
DDO Transfer - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 03:31:00
I'm not a DDO official, so IDK.
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 03:30:04
Doesn't that seem a bit lopsided to you? Why do you think God allowed Mary to become betrothed to Joseph in the first place? I have a personal theory that Joseph may have died during Jesus' child...
DDO Transfer - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 21:52:16
So as you know I'm going to be transferring stuff from DDO. Ideally I'd want to do that today. I might possibly wait until after DDO's errors break down to see if anyone sent a last-minute submission ...
Neurological Forensics - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 21:49:59
I suspect strongly they'd decay rather quickly. In theory it might be somewhat possible in the distant future.
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 21:48:40
Is it because of the whole "not his real dad" thing, and if so, what is the church's position on the adoptive parents of orphans in relation to showing honor per the 5th commandment?
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 21:47:43
I have a question. Why does the Catholic Church venerate Mary the mother of Jesus more than Joseph the father of Jesus?
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 21:46:15
Just well-educated opinion.
New Tournament - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 21:45:49
You might want to post this in community too. And put in a link.
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 14:55:55
I guess I see If an entity is made of something then it is contingent on what it is made of. As being equivalent because: God, quarks and the universe are all entities Your claim is that each...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 14:37:38
Well I'm not addressing it because I'm not a theist, so I think it's best left to interpretation. I'm more interested in the logic and morals of metaphysics.
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 14:36:26
Well so far I've attacked only the very first premise, that something that exists must be contingent. That's your first premise. So if something exists that doesn't depend on something else - the univ...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 14:22:16
I don't think there's any need for "God" but that doesn't inherently disprove God. I'd put the same case back to you: if we don't know how God is made does that mean God cannot exist? Ultima...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 13:43:27
Everything is contingent on energy. What is energy contingent on? See the problem? Basically the argument is equivalent to the classic prime mover case but it's especially weak because it applies...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 12:05:09
What are quarks made of? Are you saying quarks do not exist?
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-23 22:38:50
Howdy!
Updates on fixes (22/6/2016) - Posted by admin 2017-06-23 02:58:05
Did you deactivate your old account? :P
Updates on fixes (22/6/2016) - Posted by admin 2017-06-22 01:11:49
Social login: Facebook login is working again. Google is taking its time updating their redirect urls internally. Twitter seems to be working too. More to come today...
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-22 00:17:52
Accidental double post?
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 19:03:49
Society's restrictions don't necessarily amount to slavery, but the specific argument you're making can be used to support slavery ie I support slavery because slaves are inferior. That you're not usi...
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 18:39:52
That doesn't explain why we should take care of people with little income, or why we restrict who can earn what in the first place. These are socially defined discourses framed by adversarial power st...
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 18:21:14
Safety nets aim to produce some level of equality. By arguing against all inequality you're effectively arguing against all safety nets. The question isn't whether equality is acceptable in principle,...
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 18:07:15
You realize that's an argument for slavery right?
Paul's strange conversion and illogical actions - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 17:50:09
Does anyone seriously think Paul was eager to go around preaching Jesus to the Romans unless he had actually been commissioned by Jesus? Recall that Paul was not a Roman. He was a Freeman living...
Respect For Religion - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 12:32:42
So here's a question. Why should we ban children from watching porn?
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 12:28:24
I agree, the bar on my thermometer literally can't get any lower.
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 12:25:55
Maybe if we consider the world today I can see that wealth inequality is less of a concern than it will be in the future. It is still harmful in that it destroys societies, creates conflict and provid...
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 23:12:38
*checks temperature* Pretty sure I am at the moment, actually.
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 23:07:23
Dude you can't copyright a feature. You can try to patent it, if it's an especially novel process, but you can't copyright it.
"Last Post" Feature - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 23:05:43
I have a site update scheduled for tomorrow, as it happens. So discuss this fast, members!
DDO Emergency Alert - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 13:41:11
To be fair, if you had been a DDO president, what would you have done? The DDO community is pretty inherently fragmented.
Paul's strange conversion and illogical actions - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 06:09:43
Funnily enough I'm doing a debate right now where I talk about some of this.
DDO Emergency Alert - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 04:03:38
Well that first part is a little off. Juggle acquired DDO as an investment. They were never very interested. People complained on DDO from the very start. Aside from, funnily enough, a short period af...
DDO Emergency Alert - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 01:44:03
No architecture is designed to last forever. How long DDO lasts is a function of Juggle's willingness to maintain it.
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 01:42:47
The basic minimum income I am thinking of would be given to every single citizen of a country This is the part I take issue with, regardless. It doesn't help the poor and it exacerbates wealth inequ...
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 01:37:52
political orientation should come as a logical thing from studying philosophy I don't think there's a lot of evidence to support that this actually happens.
The unnecessary complexity of the bible - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 22:16:31
In fairness, to some people they think the Bible's message is very clear. They just happen to disagree with everyone else on what exactly that message is.
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 22:13:38
"I'm straight for the time being" "What do you mean?" "Well one day I might run into a really hot person of the same gender which could convince me otherwise" "...
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 22:08:50
So that raises the question of why a minimum income is better than social programs. The difference is that minimum incomes don't give to the poor, they give to the unemployed. Many unemployed don't ne...
Is Christianity good for society? - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 08:59:24
As I said in my first post but feel moved to re-emphasize: we have common ground on religion being a possible force of goodwill. I just don't believe that, if religion were around, people would have t...
The Future of Europe - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 03:29:41
I'm writing an essay on it right now. It's a sociological construct where mutually satisfying, equitable relationships are an integral part of an inclusive power structure. Interesting stuff. I i...
The Future of Europe - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 03:18:39
Depends on how you measure wealth. England changed it's culture with industrialization - that's why it's called a revolution. Personally I think our society today is VERY cultured, perhaps more s...
The Future of Europe - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 02:58:32
EU is fundamentally a trade and free association pact, based on the model of the old EEC. Sorta like the TPP was intended to grow the economies of each individual state, so the EU was formed to grow e...
The Future of Europe - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 02:43:21
That's quite different from individual statehood. In reality the reasons for EU integration were not to surrender sovereignty but to increase it. That's why Europe has so much anti-EU sentiment right ...
The Future of Europe - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 02:33:09
I think it's more likely that humans will colonize Mars by 2040, than it is for Europe to be a singular country anytime in the next 200 years.
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 01:50:56
Wololo
Since we have a few new users recently... - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 01:50:21
Note to users: you can thumbs-up David's post here if you agree :)
Since we have a few new users recently... - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 01:39:44
How do people feel about those? I've never been too sure about the computer generated debates personally. Speaking of which, I haven't updated the random topic list in a while lol. Need to do that. ...
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-18 20:33:38
Even if we take the most utopian concept here, where there's a completely fair and completely effective democratically-controlled system of government to enforce laws like "no slavery", you ...
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-18 20:13:43
Bear in mind, the site was profitable prior to the introduction of polls and opinions.
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-18 20:12:18
Not necessarily. The problem is maintaining a site with high traffic and TONS of growing data indefinitely. It's so easy for that architecture to break down. I'm not even sure that Juggle ever got aro...
Since we have a few new users recently... - Posted by admin 2017-06-17 08:36:49
What's one thing about edeb8 you wish people used more?
Is Christianity good for society? - Posted by admin 2017-06-15 00:48:05
You know, I've changed my view on that recently. I used to agree they'd happen under another excuse. But I think now the fact religion is so often the scapegoat points to it being a particularly dange...
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-13 02:11:57
It's pretty similar. Did you get my message when you joined the site? You can check your inbox here: http://www.edeb8.com/message/inbox
Is Christianity good for society? - Posted by admin 2017-06-13 02:08:56
I guess my personal view is that churches are neutral sources of "valuable" power (in the sense that knowledge is power). I have seen these power relations tear communities apart and bring t...
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-13 02:00:02
Yeah, the speed is much worse when there's a lot of people on lol. This is another thing I've been trying to look at improving. Eventually when I finish my masters, I'm moving to a VPS. Should speed t...
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-12 03:09:39
I came up with a system to fix that one time, but it would have required the approval of the DDO mods which I never got. The feature to import DDO progress was controversial anyway.
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-12 03:08:42
The server this is hosted on isn't fantastic but it works - any errors will be temporary "can you just give me a second" messages from the server, especially during "peak" times :)...
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-12 03:04:31
Doesn't seem like a domain issue. My guess is that their server has become overloaded and they haven't fixed it.
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-11 05:28:09
See I'm not sure you can prevent companies from basically having slave labor in a libertarian system
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-11 05:26:51
Still not loading. 503 errors are pretty serious.
Flat-Earth Model - Posted by admin 2017-06-02 21:26:24
That solstice thing only works for one hemisphere. As somebody on the other side of the planet I can confirm this is not true.
Anthropocentric Climate Change? - Posted by admin 2017-06-02 04:52:54
There's a big difference between saying humans have zero effect on climate, and saying humans are making the climate warmer. Everyone agrees humans can affect climate. Is this significant enough to wa...
I'm coming here - Posted by admin 2017-06-01 08:34:15
Except edeb8 will live forever of course :P
Anthropocentric Climate Change? - Posted by admin 2017-06-01 08:33:23
The argument I've seen is always that any changes to the climate humans make are negligible. I don't think anyone would deny, for example, that building a greenhouse creates a microclimate. People can...
Crossbow Quick Loading Mechanism - Posted by admin 2017-05-29 04:05:28
Well, to be fair, no, not typically. My understanding is they used a winch.
Crossbow Quick Loading Mechanism - Posted by admin 2017-05-27 02:12:01
That's called a scorpion and it existed too.
EDEB8 Transformation - Posted by admin 2017-05-27 02:11:38
Also because of the locking thing. Early on, preventing necroposts was seen as a major site feature for some reason.
I'm coming here - Posted by admin 2017-05-23 15:18:28
Who cares? People have choices and it's awesome.
Turtle Breaker Tactics - Posted by admin 2017-05-21 04:03:49
Kinda assumes the roman legions would break ranks, but you're basically describing Surena's strategy at Carrhae.
Turtle Breaker Tactics - Posted by admin 2017-05-21 03:01:18
The Romans faced armies who tried exactly that tactic numerous times. Such armies generally forgot that pilums are especially deadly against cavalry, either as spears or javelins. Of course some ...
Anthropocentric Climate Change? - Posted by admin 2017-05-20 01:57:54
Facts everyone agrees on are that climate is changing and people are helping change it. Question is how much people are helping, whether it's an insignificant amount or whether it's the primary cause.
Question about speed - Posted by admin 2017-05-19 21:17:42
Cool. :)
I'm coming here - Posted by admin 2017-05-18 10:05:33
Welcome :D I just repaired my laptop. Nice to see fresh faces.
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-10 19:22:28
But there are arm bones. Also, there are arm bones on similar predators that evolved independently. Also, t-rexes needed them to mate. Also, their posture would otherwise not have worke...
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-10 19:16:28
How would you stop him? Any nonviolent answer works. I'm literally only excluding one option here. If that or doing nothing are my only options for some convoluted contrived reason, then morally I c...
Question about speed - Posted by admin 2017-05-08 04:28:42
Is anyone finding edeb8 particularly slow recently? I've recently implemented a system to help filter out more spammers, just want to check that it's not slowing us down too much.
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-07 04:28:15
I don't believe it because Jesus said it. I believe it because it's morally justified. Just because somebody else does something immoral, doesn't logically mean you can do something immoral to stop th...
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-07 04:24:48
Now, if you said that you saw a T-Rex today, I would believe you. What if I said I see Jesus Christ standing right next to me endorsing everything I'm saying in this thread? ;) Well...and anima...
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-05 08:28:20
So if I said I travelled back in time and saw a t-rex, would you believe me? People have only one thing to defend themselves against and that's people. For so long as militaries exist, people hav...
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-05 05:04:56
So basically you don't believe any other possible evidence except for a full skeleton? There'd be no point in killing my people. I imagine they'd be turned into slaves mostly. At Parihaka, the lo...
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-05 01:33:01
Bear in mind several countries have no armies right now and aren't being attacked with 10,000 soldiers. The whole reason 10,000 soldiers could theoretically invade is because armies exist.
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-05 01:31:21
You don't know any "normal" animals with big back legs and smaller front arms? I can think of at least 5 living ones.
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-04 05:10:43
There are certain creatures with ancestors who existed during the time of the dinosaurs, but such creatures have evolved over time. Crocodiles were not the same species as those that existed during th...
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-04 05:04:50
Ideally, their constituents.
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-04 05:04:35
No, I don't. If hordes of invaders come, my personal belief is in turning the other cheek, but even if not, the police is much better suited to these matters than the army. Put individuals responsible...
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-03 05:11:21
I believe the nations of the world should disband their militaries.
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-04-29 00:54:38
Should there be any government?
Paley's Watch - Posted by admin 2017-04-27 23:31:29
Ok but WHY do you believe that? I guess I see a distinction between saying a conclusion is absurd and saying an argument is logically fallible.
Paley's Watch - Posted by admin 2017-04-27 14:08:56
So why do you believe in intelligent design? I feel like your response sounds less of an argument against the watch, and more against the watchmaker. Maybe there is an infinite regression of watchmake...
Paley's Watch - Posted by admin 2017-04-27 02:19:25
What ARE your personal beliefs on the watch?
The future of the world with president Trump - Posted by admin 2017-04-14 00:21:26
I guess I'll bite at this poll with my predictable answer: no.
Thumbs up on shoutbox messages? - Posted by admin 2017-04-07 07:16:57
Yeah, I mean, you'd get a reaction for the next few days...
CNN (Cannibal News Network) - Posted by admin 2017-04-03 05:08:43
What is your criteria for what you call "science"?
The latest site update - Posted by admin 2017-04-02 13:37:15
Also, just now fixed an infinite loop issue this update caused.
Intelligent Design and Selfish Biocosm as a theory - Posted by admin 2017-04-02 06:25:48
No, I'm just saying the same principle can be applied in both cases. That doesn't mean they support each other. A naturalistic explanation could be the best explanation and still not meet your arbitra...
Intelligent Design and Selfish Biocosm as a theory - Posted by admin 2017-04-02 04:26:44
Depends what you call adequate. You could say that naturalistic models of weather are inadequate because weather forecasts are often wrong. It's still the most reliable way we have to know what the we...
CNN (Cannibal News Network) - Posted by admin 2017-04-01 10:38:34
I think one of the big differences between fairy tales and conventional facts is that you can verify whether facts are true. Harry Potter? Nobody can prove if he exists. Probably a fairy tale. Cindere...
The latest site update - Posted by admin 2017-04-01 10:21:55
Here are some changes! Mostly this is a bug fix update ... so thanks for pointing out all these bugs! > Possible fix for knockout tournaments with auto-setup debates. Previously these would cr...
A change in judging - Posted by admin 2017-03-21 06:10:49
Love the suggestioning BTW!
A change in judging - Posted by admin 2017-03-21 06:10:31
paid professional judges Money's the issue training clubs I like it. Maybe more like mentoring. Needs some incentive. restrictions on judging I don't mind it, but yeah, similar to deba...
Russophobia - Posted by admin 2017-03-21 05:59:00
Your OP clearly related to the negative impacts of sanctions and negative foreign sentiments though... surely this applies far outside of Russia. Iran, North Korea, China etc come to mind.
Russophobia - Posted by admin 2017-03-21 04:53:04
Well both have sanctions on them.
Where's the FAQ? - Posted by admin 2017-03-21 04:39:59
What would you put in it?
Russophobia - Posted by admin 2017-03-21 03:48:37
On this point, sanctions against North Korea have undoubtedly harmed North Korean people. Do you agree with them?
Where's the FAQ? - Posted by admin 2017-03-21 03:47:10
I meant to make an FAQ at one point but people keep disagreeing on what should be in it
I'm down - Posted by admin 2017-03-10 08:05:11
Hey! You should have received a message from me when you joined :) Anything in particular you enjoy discussing? Just start a debate, or join an existing one you're interested in (see the deb...
Intelligent Design and Selfish Biocosm as a theory - Posted by admin 2017-03-10 07:59:18
Duh. Heck, society yesterday shaped my views today because I saw an ad on TV. Design could be, but in my view, the naturalist perspective of evolution is more scientific in terms of providing a d...
Intelligent Design and Selfish Biocosm as a theory - Posted by admin 2017-03-09 08:47:25
I think there's an important issue underlying this post. Philosophically, science itself is open to scientific scrutiny. So your wonderings are merited.
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-09 03:04:57
Sure but I think it's largely been modernized. Things have changed.
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-09 02:59:07
Oh? I thought he went out of fashion about a century ago?
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-08 09:23:58
Consistent according to our subjective observations... that doesn't mean it's true. It just means our subjective perceptions have some regularity to them.
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-08 03:59:49
How do you know?
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-08 03:56:58
Eeek, a bug. Will have that fixed soon.
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-07 07:38:13
On a related note, are you able to thumbs-up / down ideas of other people? Just want to check something.
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-07 05:02:05
... and that can't be inherent? I disagree strongly either way. Everyone's reality is actual for them. It's profoundly limiting to suggest that any one "actual" reality should be greate...
Getting a competent debater for my first debate - Posted by admin 2017-03-07 04:23:50
That sure is a specialist topic.
EDEB8 Transformation - Posted by admin 2017-03-07 04:18:45
Great to see this kind of thing going on
Edeb8 Photo Album - Posted by admin 2017-03-06 12:00:00
Because I think it would be cool to have a thread where we can put faces to each others names. Unless you have it in your profile image of course ;)
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-06 04:57:42
Subjective is actual. It's just not always the same.
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-06 04:46:58
Maybe put it on the feature request tracker... see if there's popular support for it among site users. I'd be curious. For me I would avoid using such a feature but each to their own :)
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-06 04:35:23
So you think things need to be objective to be inherent? Why?
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-06 03:19:04
I guess I have a few issues maybe with the implementation, avoiding accusations of bias, etc. The tradition/courtesy I know of debating is that anything you say to a judge before or during the debate ...
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-05 07:23:54
Right, those are the premises on which I guide my beliefs on the kind of moral society we want to create. I don't agree that the worth need be objective but certainly that people exist, and that perso...
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-05 05:11:55
That's an ethical problem. You can't examine ethics using science if that's what you're implying - that would mean being able to correctly predict the future, which science can't.
The earth is at the center of the universe - Posted by admin 2017-03-05 04:13:13
By many, do you mean three people?
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-05 04:12:11
I think those features were coded after the choose-judges system. From memory the notification doesn't give away who requested you to judge the debate, so yes. Why would you want to message someb...
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 20:01:53
You can deny morality by denying the link or the rationale. Do you think anything at all is morally true? If so, why?
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 19:59:39
The flag she sets up mutates into my flag.
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 08:47:03
If you accept as a premise that people have value, then you value people. I say ought because I believe people have that value and am explaining my reasoning for that. The IS signifies the premise, OU...
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 08:30:19
Sure, that's the law of identity. Having the same value means your value should be the same. All people are people and therefore should be valued as people should be valued. There's only one litt...
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 08:18:25
Social and political equality is the expression of rights. If everyone has the same value (being a person) then it follows we afford them the same values (as personal natural rights).
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 08:12:53
Do you?
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 08:11:33
Cool :) I'll put it back up for a trial later this month when I'm less swamped with uni work.
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 08:09:57
The reason people are valuable is because they are people. All people are people. No person is more of a person than other people.
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 08:09:01
Oh no! Not the ontological argument!
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 03:29:30
What's interesting is that I actually implemented that feature a few hours before DDO did (DDO told people 24 hours before their feature went live, so I went ahead and coded it in like 3 hours lol). P...
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 03:24:39
The value here is people. People are important things. All people, not some people. Equality means not valuing some people above others. Freedom means having that respect for one another.
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-03 10:25:45
People exercise direct democracy in some ways. I support it only when it is practical to do so, however. The vast majority of people simply do not care about politics nor should they have to most of t...
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-03 10:21:29
Edeb8 by default uses a system where the number of points is related to the length of the judgment. With some characters of feedback it increases from 1 to 3 points - with more it goes from 3 to 4. ...
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-03 03:17:40
I like my own political philosophy. Seriously though, I'm a liberal, and have various policy beliefs that may or may not align with mainstream liberal positions. Among political philosophers I ad...
Fighting for what is "right" - Posted by admin 2017-03-02 07:30:45
What makes Rousseau so great?
The future of the world with president Trump - Posted by admin 2017-03-02 00:10:46
I think it's a combination of: 1. A long-term sociological trend towards inclusion - people want to connect with other cultures etc rather than shunning them as barbarians, increasingly. Same with f...
The future of the world with president Trump - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 04:34:08
Could you clarify that question a little?
The future of the world with president Trump - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 04:15:20
It's not. But that interconnection is still a cultural phenomenon.
Fighting for what is "right" - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:58:43
I think in general my problem is more with the process of appeal to authority. Locke is a standard but he has many critics, so it's useful to justify those beliefs. I think for example Marx was comple...
The future of the world with president Trump - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:54:39
My view on this is: yes, there are corrupt people who happen to wield power. Yes, many of them want more power. Some might even collude for more power. At the same time, yes, globalization is much, ...
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:50:57
I bribe a single cockroach with a carrot to swap the flag over to my flag.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:48:27
To me, yes. To you, that's your call.
The earth is at the center of the universe - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:47:40
The actual physics answer here is that the universe has no center. It has a size (which is unknown and, according to current theories about relativity, impossible to ever work out) but not necessarily...
The earth is at the center of the universe - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:45:22
In those times they got even more specific, because Jerusalem was at the center of the earth. Some even said Jesus was crucified in the middle of the universe. No reason why, God just liked the spot a...
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:42:52
I'd even not have a problem with directly copying the DDO standard if people really wanted to use it. I'm not sure if there's copyright concerns but heck, in terms of giving debaters more flexibility ...
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:41:09
It's called the community standard because the community wrote it. If you or others want to draft another standard, and our main moderator can understand it, I'd have no trouble whatsoever adding it i...
The earth is at the center of the universe - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:59:32
Lol but seriously I'd probably say "That's cool. By the way did you know that in the future Bibles are available in almost every language and that people are allowed to question things?" Tha...
The earth is at the center of the universe - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:58:13
Art thou common serf? Thy intellect's a-trifling.
Fighting for what is "right" - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:53:45
How did he know?
What's your favorite color? - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:51:52
Harsh words!
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:47:52
On that note, it's worth reminding the planet that the whole Syrian civil war LITERALLY started because a young teenager graffitied anti-Assad slogans on a wall. The teenager was beaten by police, peo...
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:43:22
Syria's civil war isn't really about religion nor is Syria particularly uneducated. The only reason they're poor at the moment is because the place is in a civil war that is primarily political in nat...
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:39:14
To me it comes down to autonomy - whether you believe these people are naturally entitled to a good chance at life, given the inhospitable, inhumane and life-threatening conditions where they came fro...
Keynes was wrong - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:27:39
I know what you mean, my time availability is awful at the moment too :(
Keynes was wrong - Posted by admin 2017-02-27 19:16:47
I can.
Weekly Topic #1 - Posted by admin 2017-02-26 04:30:10
Interesting topic. If I had more time I'd attack it for sure. I'd be keen to judge it.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-26 04:29:01
Need a superpower be a terrorist state?
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 23:29:37
I unplug our VR headsets, and then plant my flag for the first time on the real hill.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 23:25:24
Right. So like on a debate about gay marriage I don't think one side is right or the other wrong. In a debate you have to consider both sides.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 10:09:54
That depends if your intention is to find the "truth" of the issue, vs see the issue in a new way. I don't believe in truth so maybe that's the crux of the issue.
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 10:08:29
I merge all realities by decoding space and time. Due to a bug in the universe left in there by God, my flag ends up on the hill.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 08:45:23
Personally I'd disagree. I think having to argue things from points of view I strongly disagree with, in teams with highly divergent views, has opened me up to both being less judgemental and more ope...
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 08:41:33
I accuse your reality of plagiarism because it is too similar to my reality. The international reality court rules that since my reality came first it has precedence.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 08:24:50
Isn't that a form of consideration?
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 06:27:15
I travel to an alternate reality where my flag is on the hill.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 06:13:47
I think one of the skills of debating is listening to alternative points of view and not necessarily arguing what you personally believe.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 05:26:37
Care to elaborate on that?
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 05:25:17
I tunnel under the hill and pull your flag into the ground, before pushing up my flag.
Progressivism vs Conservatism - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 05:05:20
See and I wouldn't inherently call them conservatives just because they like something from the past.
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:55:39
I declare today to be opposite day. Therefore all the losing tickets actually won. I just so happen to be the only other person who purchased a ticket.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:50:21
Also, really cool to see the growth of the debating circuit in Tunisia! Good on Tunisia for fostering critical, free dialogue! :D
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:49:17
Check out this awesome article: https://medium.com/speak-up-schools/5-lessons-i-learnt-from-debating-at-high-school-2391b434f632 What lessons or skills have you learnt from debating?
Progressivism vs Conservatism - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:44:52
Not to me. As you said, conservatism is relative to the time. It's not "always" superior, only at that time. It's the status quo that conservatism admires, and the social structures that mai...
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:33:56
I click an affiliate link on a dodgy website because I am the one-millionth visitor. It grants me the option of either a million dollars or my flag put up on the hill. Remarkably this just so happens ...
Planetary Discovery - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:31:15
Or well, 5 if you could Mars which I guess one should.
Planetary Discovery - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:30:48
I just think it's cool they found 7 such places in one system. That's, like, about 6 more than we have. Sorta makes you wonder about gas giants and such.
Progressivism vs Conservatism - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:29:04
As an aside, it's for this reason that most conservatives are shocked to learn every fascist party historically was right wing despite being "national socialist."
Progressivism vs Conservatism - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:27:58
I like to draw the link to Rome. Pompey and pals wanted to conserve the senate and republic (optimates) while Caesar and pals wanted to change it (populares). I've never seen a conservative movement a...
Planetary Discovery - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 03:08:27
Who else thinks it's cool? :D
Progressivism vs Conservatism - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 03:06:57
Yeah. A conservative by definition wants to conserve the social institutions OF THEIR TIME, not those of the past. Otherwise you're a perennialist. Of course sometimes the lines are blurred like if an...
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 03:03:30
I train a team of mutant squirrels in kung fu. They become... the ninja squirrels. As you are celebrating, the ninja squirrels secretly replace your flag with mine, then disappear without a trace...
Progressivism vs Conservatism - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 01:04:31
Be careful not to confuse perennialism for conservatism.
Progressivism vs Conservatism - Posted by admin 2017-02-23 08:45:18
Progressive because we can do better.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-22 09:40:44
Good point. Our constitution is entirely informal and our minor parties often hold more influence on important issues than major parties.
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-22 09:31:38
Haha, you can't burn it down if you don't know what it is :P
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-22 03:22:53
I convert your soldiers to my newfounded religion and use that influence to get them to plant my flag on the hill instead.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-22 03:19:41
You asked for a system of governance, not a system of morals. I think good governance accounts for the fact that there are no moral truths and people can rationally disagree on moral questions. W...
One-World Government - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:19:15
Sure but you said it in reply to my post lol
What's your favorite color? - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:18:33
I guess that proves the color is usually thought of as a system of constructed names. But yes, scientifically a color is always a part of the visible light spectrum.
One-World Government - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:16:55
Are you just saying random words to attempt to get the last post?
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:16:25
Nah *snuggles teddy bear*
What's your favorite color? - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:15:59
I strongly disagree. Just like black is not a color (it is the absence of color) or white is not a color (being just light with no hue).
One-World Government - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:14:28
IMO that's not a good thing
What's your favorite color? - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:11:53
By definition color has a hue. Grey has no hue - the entire light spectrum is reflected in grey at a certain, fixed and equal amount. Therefore grey is not a color. It is a shade.
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:09:58
Lays out a deal for both our flags to be on the hill.
One-World Government - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:07:31
That's exactly the reason why.
What's your favorite color? - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:06:19
They're the same shade
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:05:13
Entices people to come down from the hill with free hugs and candy.
One-World Government - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:03:15
To be frank, if anything I think the USA should be broken up. Same with Russia. Virtually all the internal tensions in those countries could be resolved that way. Only question is whether it is econom...
One-World Government - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 20:02:50
Earth is kinda big. If there were only 2 humans alive, maybe. But we have billions living in unique environments with unique concerns.
What's your favorite color? - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 12:00:00
Anyone else a fan of blue?
One-World Government - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 03:49:00
In general I'm universalist but don't believe in a one-world government. Keeping decisions relatively local helps preserve autonomy, along with other benefits.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 03:02:36
Democracy
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 00:31:30
Both but more the former. For example, I don't think it's right to say "it is moral for private factories to pollute rivers but not the government."
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-20 08:16:37
I think we actually agree on this. By standard I meant moral and legal standards - but one single set of consistent values may yield inconsistent outcomes as you identify in terms of who produces what...
Einstein's Relativity and Quantum Physics - Posted by admin 2017-02-18 04:58:37
That certainly assumes a lot, including that reason is individual and that "actualization" has a certain end. Some people want to be fat, for example. Will you tell them they're not living u...
Weekly Topic Thread - Posted by admin 2017-02-18 02:42:31
Cool!
Question - Posted by admin 2017-02-16 04:53:14
Recently I talked to the owner of another debate site who's doing live video debate tournaments for cash prizes. I figure maybe in the long term we could leverage their platform somewhat so we do...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-15 02:39:15
You can use the "reply to post" button under a post. OR type the @ symbol immediately followed by my username, like this: @admin :)
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-15 02:38:30
What you define as special interests, no doubt some fat cat government bureaucrat defines as public good. I'm concerned about how we devalue impacts in microeconomics, as opposed to profits. I strongl...
Current Debates, Open Debates, and Voting - Posted by admin 2017-02-14 02:43:40
Also if you want to judge something, look at this: http://www.edeb8.com/debate/Unregulated+Capitalism+is+a+moral+system%2C+and+is+perfect+as+it+is/
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-14 02:42:12
no economic interests can have negative influence over the economy Woah woah woah woah... back up here. WHAT!? If we take as a premise that some government economic interests have negative infl...
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-13 04:15:14
Again, by that logic any variant feature is enough for you to classify somebody as abnormal. Humans have eyes for a reason, blind people must be abnormal! That sort of talk makes me fear for democracy...
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-13 03:49:12
Our biology is not entirely about reproduction. There's more to life than procreation and the existence of every other biological system in your body is proof of that.
Einstein's Relativity and Quantum Physics - Posted by admin 2017-02-13 00:37:26
That's where I disagree. The child's uncertainty allowed them to have curiosity, and their willingness to change their paradigm or create a new one proves uncertainty. If you actually observe children...
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-13 00:11:20
Sure it is, after all, "normal" is just the range of variation people are willing to accept or include.
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-02-12 08:39:56
I don't think lobbying should be legal in the way it is commonly practiced now, for the record. If you do not accept the existence of bribery, it cannot be a crime. So if you say there's no bribe...
Einstein's Relativity and Quantum Physics - Posted by admin 2017-02-12 08:37:06
Sure I can have convictions. I'm convinced that I exist, but I'm open to changing that opinion in light of new evidence. Therefore I'm not 100% certain. A conviction is just a paradigm we create in ou...
EDEB8 Transformation - Posted by admin 2017-02-12 08:26:50
So I do like the general idea you're presenting here. I must agree that I think most people here do take debate seriously, but anything to help the community is of course much appreciated :) If y...
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-02-12 08:24:26
Depends how honest the socialist people are. Bribery is still happening in your model, you just call it "voluntary interactions". So like when I pay off a judge to avoid criminal sentencing,...
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-12 06:25:21
Again, that's exactly like defining normalcy by the biological trait of having a white skin pigment or having a non-autistic brain. I problematize that because it's both not biologically sound (people...
Einstein's Relativity and Quantum Physics - Posted by admin 2017-02-12 02:08:50
Sorry, only just noticed this. You know how to at-tag right? One of the big ironies in your position is that the biggest defender of that particular method of scientific reasoning in history was ...
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-12 02:01:08
Basically you're trying to downplay it now. The fact is that the US did not have a travel ban going on during world war 2 that was anything remotely like Trump's.
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 22:57:29
Human beings are also animals. Like that's what we are a type of biologically in terms of our kingdom.
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 22:44:18
No, if you're applying a psychological label to a sociological problem then you're defining normalcy by some dominant trait. It's like claiming disability or being non-white is abnormal. Again (and I ...
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 20:47:30
It proves, though, that it is natural. It is part of the natural world, fact, period. Whether it is MORAL is another question.
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 10:18:26
Yeah... sorry but I think the idea that anyone who for whatever reason doesn't have kids is being un-natural is both dangerous and wrong. Naturally tons of people don't have kids. And that's naturally...
What's your favorite bible verse? - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 03:21:39
Uhm... ok, you do know he's discussing her bellybutton right? Beauty is not the concern of the Bible. The point of the Song of Solomon is totally missed in this interpretation IMHO. After all cf ...
What's your favorite bible verse? - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 03:10:18
Because it's a perfect ending to a gospel. In ancient times it was common for writers to "leave open" a big moral question posed in the rest of the text. For example, in the very last senten...
Current Debates, Open Debates, and Voting - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 02:58:16
People should take this: http://www.edeb8.com/debate/Islamphobia+doesn%27t+exist/ Also for a fun probably-DA debate: http://www.edeb8.com/debate/That+we+should+federalise+Europe%5Cn-3/
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 01:37:38
If your assumption is that it's normal to have kids, then that's where I'd disagree with you. If your assumption is that it's normal for a species as a whole to procreate, homosexuality does not inhib...
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 22:01:15
US, although the UK did too. UK took them directly even. Behind almost every great American achievement of 1950-60s there was a German who immigrated 1930-40s.
Random backgrounds... - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 21:20:20
Never mind, it's working again :)
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 21:20:02
I should add also that I doubt humans have anything to worry about in terms of our fertility.
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 21:15:59
Animals have social capacity though. Sex is not about reproduction. Sex is an activity that sometimes just so happens to lead to reproduction but there is no evidence that reproductive intent is in an...
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 09:47:20
Homosexuality is normal. Thousands of species of animals exhibit homosexuality, there's nothing biologically to suggest it's unnatural. It poses no threat to society. Gay people should have the same r...
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 09:43:34
And while you're at it, why not specifically a Protestant state? And then whose Protestantism do you follow?
Procrastination - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 09:42:22
For me this question depends on how much time I have.
Safe spaces - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 09:42:00
I think there's an environment where people can challenge each other without anyone feeling threatened by that discourse. Unfortunately it's easy to misconstrue that concept. Most people who are anti-...
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 00:43:25
You did let Germans into your country. Millions of them in fact, as they fled Nazi Germany. And then you used their knowledge to build an atomic bomb and win the war. Also they made spaceships and rev...
What's your favorite bible verse? - Posted by admin 2017-02-09 00:49:33
Lol. Probably Mark 16:8 they said nothing to any one, for they were afraid.
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-08 18:26:48
The former
What's your favorite bible verse? - Posted by admin 2017-02-08 12:00:00
Do you have one? If so, what is it?
Random backgrounds... - Posted by admin 2017-02-08 10:10:25
Have been temporarily disabled because desktoppr seems to have disappeared :( I mean not that anybody else probably used the feature anyway but I'm still sad.
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-02-08 10:01:46
Ah yes, more commonly called "government by bribes"
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-08 09:59:41
Yeah I'm yet to meet anyone who can make sense of it
Einstein's Relativity and Quantum Physics - Posted by admin 2017-02-05 20:02:19
Anything can be reduced to assumption of some kind or circular reasoning. Science is, as I say, just our "best fit" models.
Einstein's Relativity and Quantum Physics - Posted by admin 2017-02-05 10:39:00
It is a generally established principle that effects have causes. Certainly clouds are one explanation for the cause of rain. There might be others. Once the cloud theory starts having more evidence f...
Einstein's Relativity and Quantum Physics - Posted by admin 2017-02-05 10:04:35
To quote an Al Jazeera headline I liked recently, "science doesn't care if you believe in it or not." Whether you deny climate change or not the ice caps are melting, whether you deny that t...
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-02-05 09:41:00
FYI - the term "statism" precedes Rand by a century (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statism)
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-02-04 02:27:10
The state doesn't enforce it per say, culture enforces it. Our understanding of ownership and property is culturally relative - some cultures are strongly one or the other. I don't really think humans...
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-02-04 02:01:20
That being said I can see where you're coming from.
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-02-04 01:59:59
Well it's a different kind of politic. Less centralized, at least in theory.
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-02-04 01:52:36
Pretty darn close if you ask me.
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-02-04 01:32:18
Politics can be any exercise of power within an organization, including but not limited to a government. Boardrooms are some of the most political places on earth.
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-02-03 19:54:28
Or more accurately, state power. Politics still exists in laissez faire, it is simply not exercised by the state.
"America is the greatest country on earth" - Posted by admin 2017-02-03 19:51:05
The way I see it, anytime somebody says their country is the best in the world, they're being a jerk. No country has a spotless history.
Short Jokes - Posted by admin 2017-02-01 12:00:00
Tell a joke that's not longer than one sentence (or a question and a short reply). Like for example: What's orange and sounds like a parrot? a carrot PS if you haven't gotten the hang of...
Are most people moral? - Posted by admin 2017-01-27 12:00:00
Do you think that people in general tend to be more good than evil? Or is there more evil than good?
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-25 10:14:48
And I was showing math and logic are not apolitical. That was the whole point. Knowledge is power, literally, and insofar as maths and formal logic within that are played out in a sociological context...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-25 03:29:24
Logic is a means to an end that is not apolitical. Logic is a form of indoctrination which is testable only within a paradigm of what Weber called the "iron cage of rationality." So the ques...
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 12:00:00
In this game, you need to plant your flag on an imaginary hill. Come up with hilarious ways to get the previous poster's flag down and put your own flag on top. To begin I just climb the hill and...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 10:32:16
People's co-existence itself is a socially defined value. You can't escape a value system judgment, whether it's your concept of objectivism or any other philosophy. I'm making the point that states p...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 08:18:28
Objectivism is a subset of naturalism. Taxomatically, naturalism describes all rights that exist a priori from natural (as in, not supernatural) causes. For example the concept of human rights (which ...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 06:43:03
In saying neoliberal I wasn't meaning to frame you, but rather name the body of argumentation I associate with the paradigm informing your discourse on modes of being. Please don't take anything I say...
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 05:44:56
I'd take that debate
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 05:04:25
Ok and what happens when people fail? "Oh just get back up and try again?" In critical theory that's called "modes of being," when there are certain acceptable ways to exercise tal...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 03:38:34
For what it's worth, negative income tax is a terrible idea. Loopholes galore.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 03:36:48
@BioHazard is right but I want to also question the notion that pride is individually held. It's like you're trying to hold me to account for whatever achievements you consider to be "mine"....
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2017-01-22 18:34:11
You should add a link to it
Are some cultures better? - Posted by admin 2017-01-21 12:00:00
This overlaps a bit with morality, but I suppose it bears asking - are all cultures "created equal" and if not, which cultures are the superior ones?
Favourite Disney Movie - Posted by admin 2017-01-20 02:15:33
Same actually. I grew up with that film. I also loved the 90s Homeward Bound remake.
Plagerism isn't wrong. - Posted by admin 2017-01-20 02:14:13
If you write a book and put on the cover "By Krazy" you're saying everything you wrote in that book (except things you've attributed) is your work (with the exception of fair use). The only ...
Feminism or Cancer? - Posted by admin 2017-01-20 01:46:14
Sodom and Gomorrah are further proof that these narratives are not universal. You can claim they are "natural" but then you need to justify what that actually means and where your evidence i...
Should there be an economics subforum? - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 12:00:00
I've always said it isn't necessary. I wonder what today's community thinks though. If there was a subforum for economics, would you post in it? What kind of thing would you discuss?
What do people think of Islam in your country? - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 10:34:43
Fairly good, mostly. The average person is pretty liberal over here. My former debate partner was muslim (we won a competition together :)) and he seemed to be cool with everyone.
Feminism or Cancer? - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 10:31:49
There's a big difference between "all in the mind" and socially constructed. Secondly it's you who's bringing the claim so it's your burden to prove. Third I did show some - that there have ...
Plagerism isn't wrong. - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 04:48:31
Plagiarism is more commonly defined not as "stealing words" but "stealing works". For instance, if I claimed I wrote Moonlight Sonata that would probably be dishonest, because Beet...
Feminism or Cancer? - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 04:07:22
So I guess my response to this is simple - do you have any objective evidence for these claims, or are they based on your personal worldview/belief?
Feminism or Cancer? - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 03:33:08
We don't disagree on any of that. All my point requires is an understanding that masculine / feminine is socially defined.
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 03:13:14
You have layers of autonomy. It's not like "you're free" or "you're a slave". It's just that there are many implicit and explicit forms of coercion. When we try to describe these i...
Feminism or Cancer? - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 03:02:58
I've seen that too. I was trying to distinguish them because in Krazy's posts his conception of gender seemed more like sex.
What do people think of Islam in your country? - Posted by admin 2017-01-18 12:00:00
Probably one of the most divisive religions. Putting aside your personal views, how do you think Islam is generally perceived where you live?
Feminism or Cancer? - Posted by admin 2017-01-18 06:44:24
There's a difference between gender (are you a girl or boy) and labels associated with them (feminine/masculine). He describes there being certain physical characteristics that define genders and, in ...
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-01-18 06:39:24
What you observe about coercion is very true and central to critical organizational theory.
Is Christianity a form of Judaism? - Posted by admin 2017-01-18 00:49:58
They don't believe in the same stuff, and they interpret it differently. Likewise there are similarities in all religions. Buddhism is not the same as Christianity either even though both cherish the ...
Is Christianity a form of Judaism? - Posted by admin 2017-01-17 18:43:03
No, those are sects of the same religion. They believe in essentially the same stuff, but interpret it differently.
Plagerism isn't wrong. - Posted by admin 2017-01-17 18:25:44
Do you think it's wrong to lie and say "this is all my original work" when it isn't?
Is Christianity a form of Judaism? - Posted by admin 2017-01-17 17:59:40
The New Testament and the Talmud.
Feminism or Cancer? - Posted by admin 2017-01-17 10:26:59
I think this is interesting to deconstruct because "feminine" is socio-culturally defined. What is "feminine" is unique in every place at any time - women have had many roles throu...
Is Christianity a form of Judaism? - Posted by admin 2017-01-17 10:02:19
It's basically the same story. Just as the Ba'hai believe in another prophet after Muhammed. The point is this - being from one religious tradition is different from having the same religion.
Is Christianity a form of Judaism? - Posted by admin 2017-01-13 09:28:04
Let me reverse that slightly. Is Islam a form of Christianity?
What's the most confusing thing about edeb8? - Posted by admin 2017-01-11 12:00:00
Anything that just doesn't make sense to you?
Favourite Disney Movie - Posted by admin 2017-01-10 12:00:00
Bonus points if it's a classic. What Disney-produced film do you enjoy the most?
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-01-10 08:24:27
Progressive. That way each person pays an equal burden. 25% of income is worth a lot more to a poor person than to a wealthy person, so they have a bigger burden in a flat tax.
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-01-10 03:30:07
Kinda depends on what you think is fair. To me, it's not fair to put massive tax burdens on those who cannot afford it, and a relatively minuscule tax burden on those who can.
Fighting for what is "right" - Posted by admin 2017-01-10 03:19:21
Not really. In some cases individuals may have vested interests for example, which is fair enough. In your example I don't mind voter IDs as long as they're free and easily accessible, even though I'm...
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-01-10 01:09:50
Yeah, we don't have a capital gains tax and it's a HUGE problem! Basically it makes speculation ridiculously easy for the upper class, especially on property. Currently in NZ the corporate tax is...
Tournament started notifications - Posted by admin 2017-01-10 01:06:40
Only participants should get them
Tournament started notifications - Posted by admin 2017-01-09 20:54:18
Does anyone know if these are actually being sent? It's hard for me to confirm.
Continue the story... - Posted by admin 2017-01-09 12:00:00
Once upon a time...
Fighting for what is "right" - Posted by admin 2017-01-09 10:41:17
No, some are just unenlightened XD More to the point I think it conceited for anyone to think they're absolutely right. Diversity of thought is a good thing because that stimulates debate and tha...
About the temporary site closure - Posted by admin 2017-01-09 05:23:19
We've been told there have been issues with sending "spam" again. This time I'm fairly sure it's a false alarm. So that this doesn't happen again I'm going to be updating the logs we use, so...
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-01-08 22:33:03
If that were to happen the inflation would be ridiculous so of course I wouldn't favor that. Money is not a magical way to acquire stuff. I like estate taxes. Yeah there's loopholes but overall i...
Current Debates, Open Debates, and Voting - Posted by admin 2017-01-08 22:07:14
Can I just say that I like this thread? :)
Spot the lie - Posted by admin 2017-01-08 12:00:00
In this game, each player says 3 things - 2 things which are true, and one which is not. If you're the first to spot the lie, it's your turn! I'll go first - 1. I've been in the water with a s...
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-01-07 12:00:00
How is the tax system in your country? What taxes would you change / add / remove if you had the power?
New Year, new theme - Posted by admin 2017-01-04 11:15:00
Why stick with a boring old theme for 2017? This is a great chance for people to update their profile a bit. Show off your profile themes with a screenshot here. :)
Member of the year - Posted by admin 2017-01-02 20:53:40
I'll call this one later today and then we also have to vote for debater of the year.
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2017-01-02 10:03:40
I believe the basis of morality is different. I believe morality is premised on human empathy, encompassing care for the environment and other people. Even if there were no other people, there would s...
Predictions for 2017 - Posted by admin 2017-01-01 22:47:25
Woah, some pretty insane ones here. uhm ... I predict there will be no significant change to NZ's government in our upcoming elections?
New Year - Posted by admin 2017-01-01 22:45:56
To be fair in Ethiopia they have 13 months in the year, start years in September, and are currently in 2005.
New Year - Posted by admin 2017-01-01 20:00:00
Does new years day hold any special significance for you? Or is it just another holiday? Is it good to have a time like this every so often?
Predictions for 2017 - Posted by admin 2017-01-01 15:00:00
What's going to happen? Should be pretty crazy if last year is anything to go by.
One million words - Posted by admin 2017-01-01 04:20:52
Edeb8's debates, put together, now contain over a million words of argumentation! By contrast, most novels are 80-100k words. Just thought I'd post a cool fact to start off the new year :D
New years resolutions - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 13:00:00
Anyone have any plans for the year ahead?
TweetyPie Trump. Why? - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 12:44:40
That simply proves he's a politician now. He's using different tools to achieve his ends. So what?
Union blackmail. - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 12:42:45
You started the thread by posting a view and not defending it. Asking you to defend your view doesn't first require defending the contrary opinion. It's like if I say "God exists and you can't pr...
Happy new year 2017! - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 12:00:00
Feel free to celebrate here!
Union blackmail. - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 08:09:26
Because the right to protest and the right of free assembly/speech are sacrosanct. The alternative is literally forcing people to work which is slavery. However, you shouldn't ask somebody to pro...
TweetyPie Trump. Why? - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 08:07:51
Oh I believe he's got his own opinions and stuff, I just doubt twitter activity is a great indicator of any given person's true nature. If twitter is accurate in some way that doesn't mean it's totall...
Song of the year - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 08:06:02
I actually lose track of which songs are composed when. Right now I'm listening to a lot of airline boarding music I discovered this year lol. How about you?
Flat Earth - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 06:41:30
Yes because of course the Egyptians were SO scientifically advanced right?
Union blackmail. - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 06:36:42
Why?
TweetyPie Trump. Why? - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 06:36:26
I don't think anyone should put any stock in Twitter or Facebook. It's too virtual to mean anything.
Normal Mafia sign ups - Posted by admin 2016-12-30 10:39:18
Eh, sure. Not a big fan but always good to see attempts at more activity :)
Normal Mafia sign ups - Posted by admin 2016-12-30 02:22:05
Good luck getting 8 people
Song of the year - Posted by admin 2016-12-29 02:00:00
What was your favorite song from 2016?
Reflect on 2016 here - Posted by admin 2016-12-28 21:54:03
Well for one I discovered a passion in a completely different field, to the extent that I'm now doing masters study in it next year haha
Member of the year - Posted by admin 2016-12-28 09:36:07
I'm just going to go ahead and extend the voting period on this... maybe for another day or two. We've only got 2 votes so far so that's not a great turnout guys!
Reflect on 2016 here - Posted by admin 2016-12-26 12:00:00
Let's look back on one of the strangest years in memory :)
Member of the year - Posted by admin 2016-12-26 07:19:12
VOTING IS NOW OPEN! Who is 2016's best community member? And do you agree with my "top 5" shortlist?
Best of Edeb8 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-12-25 12:00:00
What will you remember about the past year on edeb8? Did you join this year? Have a memorable debate? Let us know :)
January 2017 Debating Tournament - Posted by admin 2016-12-24 22:52:09
Does this mean we can see the R1 matchups now?
XMas Badge! - Posted by admin 2016-12-24 22:48:07
Don't forget, anyone who logs into edeb8 over Christmas gets a special badge! :)
Edeb8 Merch - Posted by admin 2016-12-24 12:00:00
This is never going to happen but sometimes I get crazy ideas for threads or things to discuss. Would you ever wear an edeb8-branded t-shirt?
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-12-24 03:18:17
So we take murder here in its non-legal sense. I defined murder as the killing of another human being on purpose. States kill other people on purpose when they impose laws to execute them. I disa...
Member of the year - Posted by admin 2016-12-24 03:09:42
It's the time again to vote for member of the year! Join this group to join the vote: http://www.edeb8.com/group/Edeb8+Member+Awards/ Voting opens on the 26th. Until then, share your ideas f...
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-12-23 23:45:07
Law is meaningful only insofar as people give it meaning. There's no absolute standard - rather, laws are culturally and politically determined in particular times in particular places. And while I be...
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-12-23 21:11:06
For that you need to accept that death and lashings are justifiable limitations on bodily autonomy. I don't think prison makes everything worse if it is used properly. People also have this weird view...
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-12-23 19:33:50
All that could be true and my point would still stand. The list proves that the death penalty is harsher. If you think it is equally or less harsh, I suppose, you wouldn't object to its removal anyway...
VIP one-page essay - Posted by admin 2016-12-22 01:03:45
Check the tournament website. There's a link on the tournament's page.
Debate Hate - Posted by admin 2016-12-21 09:49:26
I hate debating when it's not debating anymore. I've been in some clubs which have seemed like old boys clubs. I hate going to major tournaments knowing more money is being spent on social outings and...
VIP one-page essay - Posted by admin 2016-12-21 04:08:50
I should be admitted to the VIP club of the January tournament because I bet nobody else will even bother to apply. :D
January 2017 Debating Tournament - Posted by admin 2016-12-21 04:02:06
You know your presentation at the top of the VIP page? Apparently it says I need permission to see it. GREAT initiative though :D
Could Santa actually exist? - Posted by admin 2016-12-19 12:00:00
Is it scientifically possible for the legend to be true?
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-19 00:29:32
I doubt it. Conservatives have been mocking progressives pushing for the gradual introduction of a national income for decades. They'll just be happy watching the poor suffer.
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 23:46:25
The more flat the tax, the less progressive it is. That's the overall point. Conservatives want to completely eliminate taxes Not sure about that. Plenty of neocons would gladly tax and spend l...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 23:18:50
You said "never" and that's very absolute. Economic conditions change over time naturally. In good times it might be rare to not have a job for too long. In bad it is quite common. Poli...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 22:56:43
Very absolute statement. I'm sure many in the Great Depression era would beg to disagree.
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 21:45:17
There's virtually no justification for flat tax being progressive. The usual logic is something like this: a 20% flat tax means a person earning $1 only pays 20c, while somebody earning $10 has to pay...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 21:39:20
Success is not a choice. I never saw anyone too lazy to work when I was in the unemployment office. What I saw was a lot of people hungry for a chance. I don't think it's fair to call them idiots, eve...
Eternal Oblivion - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 20:11:21
Sounds a lot like anxiety.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 20:10:36
Same problem. I had many people from those fields ask me for work, too.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 20:09:33
The problem isn't having less companies, it's the accumulation of capital by a small number of people. You'd care because self-actualization entails more than basic human needs being met.
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 20:08:05
liberalism is just a scheme for big business to regulate the small guy out of business As a businessperson one of my biggest threats was the tax department. I'm sure it's the same for small business...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 19:34:18
You'd have to oppress the poor to retain control of capital in times of social unrest. Poor always rise up against wealth inequality in the long term, and I gave many examples earlier. It's a sociolog...
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 19:20:56
Trump looks pretty capable of using power to generate wealth to me, but as a liberal, whose policies do you think I will support? Obviously Bernie's. Trumps policies are anti-globalist, nationalist, p...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 07:20:11
Markets distribute wealth to those who produce stuff. Giving out wealth to all sounds very much like the opposite of a market to me. To be a producer, you need capital. To lack moderate amounts of cap...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 04:18:55
Online gambling isn't an infinite money supply. By the same logic you could say people in the yesteryear made easy money by going to a physical casino. The internet has its own Las Vegas, and it is no...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 00:43:08
They are getting poorer relative to the wealthy. You have to remember economics is marginal, not absolute. Although I know kids who have neither lunches or cellphones. The problem is ultimately s...
Going on another hike! - Posted by admin 2016-12-17 21:44:34
Photos as promised :) http://imgur.com/a/FWOR9
Personal Motto - Posted by admin 2016-12-17 12:00:00
If you had to come up with a short phrase that signifies what you stand for, what would it be? Bonus points if it's in Latin.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-17 06:11:46
It all boils down to this - governments can either allow the rich to get richer while the poor get poorer, or they can do something about it.
Recessions and depressions - Posted by admin 2016-12-17 05:42:15
There are indeed several causes. Chicago school economists would be rather peeved at you ignoring the great stagflation of the 1970s, too. The basic problem is what factors most affect the supply...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-17 05:37:52
I think it's less of an assumption and more of a conclusion. You claim people don't amass capital in a voluntary society. I'd like you to explain the story of every western liberal democracy in the la...
Going on another hike! - Posted by admin 2016-12-17 05:19:03
Yes I was
Server Outage - Posted by admin 2016-12-17 05:18:46
Yes it would
Going on another hike! - Posted by admin 2016-12-12 01:01:51
This time I'll be visiting the nelson lakes! Wish me luck, I hear there's bad weather passing through.
Old Classics - Posted by admin 2016-12-12 00:58:19
Thread inspired by: http://www.konbini.com/us/entertainment/mozart-officially-sold-the-most-cds-in-2016-beats-drake/ Who's your favorite classical composer?
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-10 10:05:43
Any system that meets those four conditions will have this problem. So let's take an extreme anarcho-capitalist society. Somebody buys capital or bullies others into giving them capital. Gradually the...
Server Outage - Posted by admin 2016-12-10 09:48:14
Hey - Many of you will be familiar with a recent unplanned server outage that took place. I hope it hasn't seriously affected anyone's debates - if it has contact a moderator and we'll sort ...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-09 10:52:18
Here's the thing. Plenty of billionaires are unemployed. They've never worked a day in their life because they can happily live comfortable lives off the interest. Some forefather was fortunate enough...
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-06 00:48:06
Oh sure. You can try to enforce a monopoly for a brief period. It's not a stable market structure though. Poor investment.
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-06 00:42:50
Meh. I also don't believe in synergy or leadership. All useless concepts.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-12-06 00:19:32
Well not buying into it yourself would be a start (?)
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-06 00:18:55
I understand a free market to be an economy with a lot of freedom, both positive and negative. So that's different from unregulated. Laissez faire is immoral, exploitative, unequal, not free, and cert...
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 23:59:34
Markets are efficient, monopolies are not. Monopolies are the result of exploitation that do not form an inherent part of a "free" market. This is why govts need to balance both forms of lib...
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 23:52:15
It's surprising how nonchalant you are about that.
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 23:50:43
Free and equal playing field for companies, free and equal for workers. Not being able to eat is much more a barrier for a person than a company.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 23:47:37
See how the media can decide who gets elected by making up words that mean nothing?
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 23:45:38
Sometimes you have to stand up for what's right even if you think you're too small to make a difference. Not really. I believe in a competitive market so of course I don't care for corporations.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 23:44:00
Pretty meaningless title, then.
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 23:39:00
Of course the economy's my concern. Without the economy my business can't operate and I couldn't start another. Why not bailout those workers? Assisting the individuals as opposed to the company.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 01:40:41
They certainly have been.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 01:40:19
Compared to who? I mean she's "A" Wall Street candidate but that's not saying a lot unfortunately.
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 01:39:30
Hmmm ... me vs the whole economy. I think I know what's more important. No. A bailout isn't to me, it's to my company. Who would actually need money in that scenario is not my company but me.
Determinism (Neurological) - Posted by admin 2016-12-04 20:13:35
So what? Assume everything you just said is true. My conscious brain has given me the illusion of free will, whatever. Does that justify me going on a violent rampage and then claiming "my subcon...
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-04 20:11:50
No. That would make significantly less sense because: a) the collapse wouldn't effect anyone except me, and b) if they really wanted to bail me out, why not give me a handout instead?
January 2017 Debating Tournament - Posted by admin 2016-12-04 07:53:53
Currently you have me and one other person I think, so that's a start :)
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-04 00:06:28
I'm actually thinking states should bailout individuals instead of corporations. Otherwise it creates perverse incentives for shareholders.
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-12-03 23:20:19
More the former.
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-12-03 23:13:49
Against
Determinism (Neurological) - Posted by admin 2016-12-02 20:55:42
That's where I lose you. Maybe we're predetermined to make rational moral decisions. Just because there's a fixed outcome doesn't imply we shouldn't make good decisions now, doubly so if we don't know...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-12-02 20:53:35
Opening the floodgates, I see
Determinism (Neurological) - Posted by admin 2016-12-02 00:27:33
Why does this matter?
Political parties - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 22:30:20
Not really. They're not the most intelligent bunch for the most part.
Political parties - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 22:15:38
Personally I tend to vote Green, although I like some ideas from Maori and NZ First too.
Political parties - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 22:13:46
Nice idea for a thread! NZ is very multi-party. The largest are National (center-right) and Labor (left). Other parties who hold seats in our parliament are the Green Party, New Zealand First Par...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 22:04:02
Lies
Drug policy - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 21:57:59
I have nothing against purified forms of THC (or any other ingredient in marijuana) being used in pills. There should be no reason, however, to smoke marijuana.
Drug policy - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 21:57:06
There's virtually no evidence of that economic boom anyway.
Drug policy - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 21:52:00
Similar story. Lots of people like the idea of legalizing it.
Drug policy - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 21:47:03
It totally is. Very strong movement to legalize it.
Drug policy - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 21:38:50
Prison doesn't heal the problem. For dealers, sure. For users, no.
Drug policy - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 21:29:29
Being forced into a rehab center is a form of mandatory minimum. Nice to have two competing views. We should have a debate sometime :)
Drug policy - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 19:12:41
It's not legal. Personally I don't think recreational drugs should, in general, be legal. I also think tobacco should be illegal and alcohol should be more heavily restricted. Punishment should be for...
What's your favorite food? - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 19:09:50
I'm known for enjoying various dishes involving chicken and rice.
Update for tournaments - Posted by admin 2016-11-29 22:24:38
You can now have a custom list of topics! Yay! :D
BioHazard's profile - Posted by admin 2016-11-29 03:08:19
@BioHazard recently included his views on a number of topics on his profile. Maybe we should make a site-wide initiative to do this as well?
What's your favorite food? - Posted by admin 2016-11-27 03:38:27
Just thought we should have another random thread.
Happy Thanksgiving! - Posted by admin 2016-11-24 21:11:59
Hi American friends!
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-11-23 00:59:03
Efficient compared to what? In general it's not terribly efficient but without some point of reference it's a bit meaningless. I think the death penalty is harsher because 1) it restricts a mor...
Magic Tricks - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 11:37:27
Can anyone here outclass Harry Potter?
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 11:36:00
It would be a shame if this thread died :(
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 09:57:13
To be clear: I believe in natural rights. I understand that somebody else's understanding of natural rights may not be the same as mine. Therefore from their perspective, they may subjectively conside...
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 09:56:38
Not all of them are. Racists are just more likely to be republicans.
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 06:13:35
Natural rights are inherent. Just because I don't believe in the death penalty doesn't mean it can be objectively proven worse, at least until a reliable future predictor is invented.
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 06:07:52
A bundle of morally permissible actions one has because one is human. Also called human rights.
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 06:02:22
Opposed, because life is a natural right that cannot be surrendered, therefore it is not part of the social contract.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 05:58:45
In my view, yes. We need to get rid of two notions here. One is that racism is bad or wrong. That's not always the case. The other is that affirmative action is necessarily good. Without tho...
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 03:44:54
Anyone who supports any form of genocide is a racist IMO. In general, if you support discrimination of any sort on racial grounds, I consider that a form of racism. A person who knowingly holds racist...
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-21 22:09:26
A lot of democrats are, too. The most racist candidate in the election, AFAIK, was the Green VP Ajamu. Other republicans are not. In general, however, because the republicans TEND TO be conservat...
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-21 21:59:18
Sure. To be clear I don't think he's significantly less racist than most republicans. But still.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-21 21:46:02
Yip
Chess World Championship - Posted by admin 2016-11-21 21:45:13
This is why it's worth thinking about moves for a long time
Chess World Championship - Posted by admin 2016-11-21 21:30:08
It comes with practice, I think. Most good players don't consider all the possible moves, just think about general patterns that might show them where to look for moves.
Dishonesty in debating - Posted by admin 2016-11-16 07:26:21
How do people feel about people citing fake experts and stuff in debates? Recently it's been a hot topic in places where debate is a bit more academic: https://www.reddit.com/r/Debate/comments/5d...
Supermoon - Posted by admin 2016-11-16 03:22:53
Yes, it was quite scary
SOCINT - Posted by admin 2016-11-15 19:04:57
Depends where you live, but in general, SOCINT means either mass surveillance or it's completely ineffective. Either way it's bad.
SOCINT - Posted by admin 2016-11-15 13:54:00
Sure but then criminals would use that medium, right?
SOCINT - Posted by admin 2016-11-15 13:47:29
Well I mean it's technically possible. The question is whether they should.
Supermoon - Posted by admin 2016-11-15 09:36:28
It is lol.
SOCINT - Posted by admin 2016-11-14 16:29:27
Except that a lot of data IS posted as "private" or "for friends only" on social media. Retweeting "I like ISIS" doesn't inherently make you a terrorist. It depends ...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-14 05:59:40
Got to disagree with you on that
SOCINT - Posted by admin 2016-11-14 04:40:06
"Mass surveillance"
Supermoon - Posted by admin 2016-11-13 15:00:48
Well we got an earthquake. And a tsunami. Stupid moon messing with us probably.
Chess World Championship - Posted by admin 2016-11-12 08:28:17
Any other chess nerds out there? Make The Trompovsky Great Again!
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-09 17:43:48
You're not the first person to ask me that today.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-09 08:11:48
Yip, my brother's "very happy"
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-08 17:23:18
Can we take a moment to appreciate that "admin" is the coolest name of all?
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-11-08 16:30:34
Small aside - congrats on NaNoWriMo! You should make a thread telling us about your novel sometime.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-08 16:24:36
I suspect the winner will be that candidate who nobody likes. ;) Go vote, Americans.
Anyone celebrate Guy Fawkes? - Posted by admin 2016-11-08 05:18:31
'Cause fireworks.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-08 05:18:30
A particular stranger would be a cool name
Anyone celebrate Guy Fawkes? - Posted by admin 2016-11-06 00:43:13
Personally I love wandering around town and watching fireworks :)
Grace Provision in the Law - Posted by admin 2016-11-05 04:52:25
It's kinda like how rights to sell your own organs are restricted. There are perverse incentives that could make victims release dangerous people. Justice for the victim does not necessarily mean givi...
Grace Provision in the Law - Posted by admin 2016-11-05 04:29:45
And why would you do that? You go through all this effort to secure a prosecution and then at the end say rape's ok, this person can go free. I can't think of a single good reason why judges, highly t...
Subdomain issue - Posted by admin 2016-11-04 13:32:41
Working again :)
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-04 07:28:10
You're a random stranger, not merely a stranger.
Grace Provision in the Law - Posted by admin 2016-11-04 07:27:27
In what legitimate circumstance would it be a good idea to have such a provision?
Flat Earth - Posted by admin 2016-11-04 07:26:37
Lol
Subdomain issue - Posted by admin 2016-11-04 07:25:51
I've noted that recently there seems to be a DNS bug. Possibly related to the DNS switch last month. As a result the mobile site, debate shortlinks and other stuff aren't working properly. My host and...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-03 08:46:16
Who is this stranger?
Flat Earth - Posted by admin 2016-11-02 14:34:07
I've seen the links and they only strengthened my conviction.
Flat Earth - Posted by admin 2016-11-02 13:14:43
That nobody who has done research into it really believes it to that extent.
Need Your Ideas for helloween - Posted by admin 2016-11-02 13:06:15
Isn't it kinda too late already?
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-02 02:20:38
Touche.
Flat Earth - Posted by admin 2016-11-02 01:55:57
I think it's a joke
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-02 01:55:09
Replies like that are lame
Random protip of the day - Posted by admin 2016-11-01 13:46:06
Did you know that thumbs-upping debates makes them appear on edeb8's homepage (in the popular debates box)? The stats page also lists top-thumbs-upped debates. Please thumbs-up good debates today...
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-27 15:31:56
Reframe that so existence is the conclusion not the premise. We're trying to establish the quality of existence here not assume it. So it's that could exist if it was all-powerful, not that could...
It's about to be Halloween! - Posted by admin 2016-10-27 15:30:28
I'm considering starting a tradition of watching Over The Garden Wall for it each year. Also I have a bag of candy ready for the extremely likely possibility that no kids come trick or treating. XD
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-27 12:41:54
So then we're not arguing about whether an omnipotent being exists. We're arguing over whether something is all-powerful, whether it exists or not. Because if something is all powerful you concede it ...
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-27 12:29:57
There's a difference between "if he exists" and "if he is omnipotent".
It's about to be Halloween! - Posted by admin 2016-10-27 10:46:29
Who's excited? How will you be celebrating this year?
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 20:51:40
So either a non-all powerful being doesn't exist, or an all-powerful being does? I'm not sure that's logically exclusive.
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 19:27:46
As I said earlier, if you ignore logic then the question of whether God exists or not ceases to be relevant. Therefore I'm happy to accept logic in this discussion.
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 18:36:03
Suppose we prove that something must be infinitely powerful
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 18:24:42
hypothetically infinitely powerful. You are saying that a thing exists because it has a certain characteristic. These are two different positions for the reason I stated above. I'm certain you're de...
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 13:52:17
There's a difference between it having to exist and you being that infinitely powerful being. We are asserting it exists because it is infinitely powerful. You can claim ANYTHING is an assertion....
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 13:15:28
I think the substantive answer you're giving is that power is defined by the quality of existence, not existence by power (it's hard to tell because you need commas lol). If so then you must assume a ...
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 12:56:56
Hypothetically, if it has infinite power, it exists, right?
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 12:43:38
Sure. Logically, power measures something existing. Or put in reverse, something that does not exist has no power.
Big Personal Announcement - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 03:26:16
So today is World Teacher's Day, and I kinda wanted to use today to share something big. Next year I'll be doing a Masters degree in Teaching and Learning. It's an intensive, one-year degree that woul...
Edeb8 Political Compass - Posted by admin 2016-10-25 01:03:36
It has also been done here: http://www.edeb8.com/forum/Society/1285/0/ or http://www.edeb8.com/forum/EDEB8.com+Site/1313/0/ My results anyway are pretty close to you: https://www.politicalcompa...
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-25 00:41:19
Almost all Maori now are mixed-heritage which complicates things. I think by now the average New Zealander has embraced elements of Maori culture. People feel connected to the tribe(s) they belong to....
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-25 00:30:07
Of course if God can break contradictions then he needn't exist to be all-powerful. So I'm happy to accept that even if it's burden pushing. However notwithstanding that I don't see how your answ...
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-24 04:47:32
Please share one example.
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-24 01:59:00
We can disprove that by looking at the opposite. Suppose there was an integer larger than 7 and smaller than 5. These two are contradictory, therefore we can say this integer does not exist. This is n...
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-24 01:23:21
Lacking technology is not a culture. In every other respect I'd say that statement is misguided and empirically false. It's a colonial mindset that simply did not hold true.
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 21:32:23
Oh, and fire_wings. fire_wings will probably get himself a free point. It's setting up for some interesting finals I think :)
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 21:30:47
So I started round 3 ... the draw has some interesting features but it's pretty much what I'd backtabbed anyway. missbailey8 vs lannan13 and Famousdebater vs SolonKR from DDO are your top attractions ...
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 21:19:45
I dunno. Earth might prove to be an isolated place... "Isolation" has little to do with actual population and more to do with whether you're in contact with people who are actually subs...
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 21:11:02
Such a world would probably be characterized by relatively little scarcity, little conflict and much isolation.
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 19:16:21
My favorite ontological: to be all-powerful and not exist is contradictory.
Remainder of the updates - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 12:08:34
So, in addition to that password stuff I mentioned before, I've also changed a lot of things with teams. Teams are cooler Like groups, teams can now have custom backgrounds. For both groups and...
Labor Day - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 09:36:24
We celebrate labor here tomorrow! Do you have a labor day in your country? If so what do you usually do on it?
I am the new edeb8 mod. AMA - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 05:54:47
The song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln9KiF30D7Q What's your favorite debate format? Favorite food? What's one thing you hope you will see in your lifetime?
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 04:17:03
Which is not necessarily evidence of a conservative ideology. When the Europeans came into contact with the Maori people in New Zealand for example, they readily adopted European ideas, initially...
I am the new edeb8 mod. AMA - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 03:34:04
Why'd you first decide to try debating? What's the last classical music piece you listened to? Name one hero to you / person you look up to?
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 03:31:33
When Columbus came to North America did he find small bands of hunter gatherers as crossed the Bering Sea over 10,000 years prior? Of course not. Their society had evolved. Look at the difference...
Password changes (and what they mean for you) - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 02:54:26
So today there's been a security update - I have some features I want to roll out too but I wanted to talk about this first. You already know that now there's a second mod in the house by the name of ...
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 02:49:58
Well duh. What's conservatism to conserve? Society is not stagnant forever, much as conservatives try to keep the old ways. Inherently over time, conservatism has to make room for new ideas. Like...
Citizens United - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 02:12:05
Totally.
Citizens United - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 01:00:54
It's a form of free speech, yes.
Mod Update - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 00:59:42
Here's a first tip. Don't at-tag and put punctuation right after the tag. It doesn't work because punctuation can also be part of a username. That would have tagged "admin." if there was suc...
Citizens United - Posted by admin 2016-10-22 07:56:15
Freedom of speech is limited by federal government right now in so many ways. For example in the name of defense. If the court wants to hold the standard that the remainder of the constitution ca...
Mod Update - Posted by admin 2016-10-22 07:53:10
Hey all! This weekend I'm going to be making an update to edeb8 which will improve a couple of features. Part of this is a security update that I want to make which will help better protect your ...
DNS update - Posted by admin 2016-10-21 22:20:16
The thing that translates what IP address "edeb8.com" corresponds to, changes from one computer to another computer.
DNS update - Posted by admin 2016-10-20 09:37:29
Just an FYI that edeb8's DNS will be moving shortly. Shouldn't cause too many problems but please let me know if something disappears or something.
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-10-16 23:49:05
I mean that many trade deals take responsibility for regulating that trade away from the people and into the hands of trade courts. They also may impose fines on governments that break the deal. These...
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-10-16 23:47:46
Insofar as it is at odds with self-determination, yes. But I believe technology and economic capacity which brings people together is a good thing, so that part of globalization I fully support.
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-10-16 23:39:33
I don't like unregulated trade. Governments must retain sovereignty. However I believe in economically competitive international trade. So keep fair regulations and no to trade courts, but other than ...
Keynesian economics on capitalism - Posted by admin 2016-10-11 21:36:05
The theory assumes people react after the policy change, not before. When people react too soon, that changes the policy.
Keynesian economics on capitalism - Posted by admin 2016-10-11 04:01:49
I don't really believe in "schools of thought". I tend to pick little bits from here and there. Keynes said a lot of important stuff but it's not like it's the word of God or something.
Keynesian economics on capitalism - Posted by admin 2016-10-11 00:13:01
As I've always tried to explain to people, Keynes himself argued his theory is correct in the short term. This is validated by plenty of observational data. To this end virtually no serious economist ...
General Mod Stuff - Posted by admin 2016-10-10 00:48:52
More like an interview.
General Mod Stuff - Posted by admin 2016-10-09 20:31:31
There's 3 main candidates for the mod position, so I'm kinda tossing up. In the meantime I thought it might be interesting for people to see the interview questions and the answers I was looking for. ...
Does edeb8 need a second mod? - Posted by admin 2016-10-07 09:03:06
Don't worry, I figured.
Does edeb8 need a second mod? - Posted by admin 2016-10-07 06:54:32
People have reported me for all sorts of junk before. A report doesn't make it true.
Anyone for Mafia? - Posted by admin 2016-10-07 04:47:10
It's been tried unsuccessfully on this site about half a dozen times. There's even a fairly defunct group for it.
Does edeb8 need a second mod? - Posted by admin 2016-10-07 04:44:54
... no because it's clearly not spam. Spam is unsolicited messages. AT BEST it's advertising. It's non-commercial and in DDO's interest so I'd say I'm probably ok. I've been advertising the WODC ...
Does edeb8 need a second mod? - Posted by admin 2016-10-06 19:00:54
This ad goes for edeb8 people too: http://www.debate.org/forums/debate.org/topic/93838/
Does edeb8 need a second mod? - Posted by admin 2016-10-06 05:51:14
Would anybody be particularly upset if I asked on DDO?
Does edeb8 need a second mod? - Posted by admin 2016-10-05 17:54:20
Probably just one person, whom I couldn't afford to pay out of pocket. Options are open though.
Does edeb8 need a second mod? - Posted by admin 2016-10-05 06:00:50
Originally I've been against it due to me being able to handle everything. The last few weeks have perhaps proven that I might not be able to keep that up forever. If we did get another mod, how ...
Edeb8 now has 500 debates! - Posted by admin 2016-10-04 05:24:46
YAY!
Open border policy - Posted by admin 2016-10-03 05:14:55
No because of property values. People get trapped in slums where houses are worthless. Meanwhile speculators artificially inflate the prices elsewhere. It would only be self-correcting if you ignore s...
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-10-02 19:00:43
Pretty much. Guns are not defensive as I've pointed out many times before. At best they're a deterrent, even so a very poor one. Which makes it all the crazier for me that some people want to conceal ...
Open border policy - Posted by admin 2016-10-02 18:42:45
Sometimes I just miss threads XD It's not terrorists you need to worry about, it's whether you can actually sustainably house the numbers coming in. If you have empty lots, and somebody wants to ...
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-10-02 18:35:19
I could probably get a rifle. Handguns - I mean really what on earth would I use as my reason for getting one? There's no way a handgun is useful as a hobby. If I joined a gun club or a hunting club a...
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-10-02 17:51:09
Water guns are ok XD I don't understand why anyone wouldn't be afraid of something designed to kill people. Luckily there aren't too many guns around here for me to touch.
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-10-02 02:26:57
As a kid I lived near a police firing range. Sometimes we'd go walking quite close to there and I'd always be super, super scared whenever I heard a gun. I imagine my reaction as an adult would be eve...
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-10-01 20:53:08
Not at all. Everything is famous only within a context.
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-10-01 13:58:11
If you're from New Zealand you'd have heard of Once Were Warriors. Maybe you have but chances are good that you and/or most of your British pals haven't because it, like all things, is only famous in ...
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-10-01 13:49:23
Still don't see why it should be surprising.
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-10-01 11:35:28
He started his post by explaining that he doesn't assume naturalism.
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-30 22:17:43
National Certificate of Educational Achievement. It's what the vast majority of New Zealand uses.
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-30 21:16:51
In fact I see this as being one of the problems with the GCSE system - it prescribes set plays. In NCEA you always have a choice and can write about any play or book etc of your choosing (with the exc...
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-30 21:11:02
Well here's people from two other countries that don't. DDO clearly didn't know much about it either. Is that maybe because the countries that you've spoken to are those that primarily use the UK...
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-30 08:02:48
It's only so well known in your circles because you studied it.
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-30 04:46:06
I'm not from the American education system. I'd gladly defend that NCEA makes more sense than Cambridge.
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-30 04:45:21
Or more narrow. Like I bet you haven't read Spider by Maurice Gee. There's less of a prescribed set of texts here. The only informally prescribed ones are the really famous ones (like Shakespeare), if...
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-29 17:55:05
Over here it's more common to read books like To Kill A Mockingbird or The Great Gatsby.
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-29 07:21:48
I honestly haven't had nearly as much time for books recently as I'd have liked. This month has been just insane for me!
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-28 05:05:53
Power is relative.
Universal healthcare - Posted by admin 2016-09-25 05:08:36
Nice to see you around again. :)
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-24 21:30:51
Not many would disagree
New topics - Posted by admin 2016-09-23 06:27:00
Net = overall. So the net benefit is the benefits minus the drawbacks. Pro in that topic argues that a more globalized economy is good for indigenous cultures.
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-21 06:21:59
In all fairness, the last US president I have any respect for, except for Obama, was Jimmy Carter, and he didn't have a clue what he was doing. US has had some terrible leadership. In fairness, Reagan...
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-21 06:20:08
I disagree. Her support erodes the support of BOTH of the frontrunning candidates. Which I see as being very good because I tend to agree with Jill Stein on most things, and disagree with the frontrun...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-21 06:16:21
Jesus revived himself, some experts claim.
Pardon Edward Snowden? - Posted by admin 2016-09-21 06:15:04
In my view he shouldn't have been charged in the first place.
Debate Thread - Posted by admin 2016-09-20 19:02:19
I suspect people might use it to get to the last thread on the main page of the forums.
Universal healthcare - Posted by admin 2016-09-20 06:48:50
The irony is that unhealthy people USUALLY have lower healthcare expenses over the course of their life. Keeping people alive for longer is really, really expensive. From a strictly economic standpoin...
Universal healthcare - Posted by admin 2016-09-19 19:19:14
That doesn't follow. The incentive is health, not money. It's not much use holding on to money if you're dead. This is the problem with much American culture today - here is a prime example of pu...
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-18 01:32:01
Not really
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 12:09:24
Marginally again, Hillary. Largely because I think her policies are moderate enough to piss less people off in the world.
Universal healthcare - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 12:08:03
In general, yes, it's worth it.
New topics - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 04:42:30
Presently they don't. Question is whether they should.
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 02:18:58
Sure, that's why I trust him slightly less, in part ;)
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 02:15:23
Sure. I especially don't like politicians who change their views in response to what is popular. Clinton's one of the worst offenders.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 02:14:09
Don't really see a problem with playing forever, personally - most forum games are that way.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 01:54:47
Actually, this is the second time we've finished - we agreed earlier that we restart once we get to A.
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 01:53:55
Being unprincipled. I think maybe she at least kinda wants to help somebody other than herself more than Trump does, but you really have to squint to see it.
Your internet speed - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 01:52:35
I have cable internet, so I can ping places in the city reasonably fast. Of course if I'm talking to a server somewhere far away (like the US or Europe, where most web servers are including edeb8...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-16 17:29:24
Won't you have trouble following that post up with something starting with "x"?
Your internet speed - Posted by admin 2016-09-16 07:12:55
Differences are invariably based on the server you are talking to.
Your internet speed - Posted by admin 2016-09-16 07:11:56
I get these results: 43.57 Mbps download 2.15 Mbps upload From Speedtest 42.6 Mbps download 1.37 Mbps upload From Google
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-16 07:08:39
I'd support Jill Stein ;) Between the two I'd prefer the relative security of Clinton. With Clinton you kinda know what you're getting, at least, and you can vote her out after 3 years (and pleas...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-16 07:06:54
Unfortunate, even.
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-15 08:31:57
BETTER THAN socialism, yes. Doesn't mean it's not terribly inefficient. I wouldn't support it.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-15 08:30:46
Opinions are generally trumped by facts I suppose.
Riddles - Posted by admin 2016-09-15 08:29:24
There's a supported formatting link when you draft a reply.
September 11th anniversary - Posted by admin 2016-09-15 08:28:59
So long as you didn't endorse for people to go out and commit terrorism you're probably fine. Just be careful.
New topics - Posted by admin 2016-09-15 08:27:51
Issues and secret topics are drawn from the moot bank. Basically I'm adding to http://www.edeb8.com/motions.txt
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-14 22:55:45
I may have misspoken ... can you show me what you're referring to? Pretty sure it's been a fairly consistent position of mine that capitalism allocates resources poorly, but in the short term it alloc...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-14 22:06:06
OK. By that definition capitalism is terribly inefficient. I more meant economic efficiency in the sense of "maximizing value & minimizing waste". Probably my poor choice of words then.
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-14 21:59:47
Ideally, in my view, society is free and equal... which is impossible, but maximizing those principles of freedom and equality sounds good. Efficiency is a pretty meaningless metric. The thing th...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-14 03:40:12
Didn't you figure it out from the OP?
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 19:02:23
Already did Y before you :P
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 18:57:07
You missed that there's a page 2 to this thread, I guess?
Nazi-Soviet Pact - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 18:47:55
Probably delayed slightly. Hitler's main reason for invading Poland was that he thought he could get away with it.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 18:46:40
Xenon is the first one that comes to mind - on second thought, X is kinda boring too.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 18:19:34
Very good question indeed - how about something starting with the letter "X"?
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 16:04:00
Time we changed the topic, I think - this conversation's getting stale.
New topics - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 14:58:57
Several of those are on the list already but thanks! :D
New topics - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 06:30:53
I almost feel like reversing half of these XD. Think homosexuals having preferential adoption rights or something was a topic at a tournament recently, really liked it. Good suggestions :)
New topics - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 05:43:06
The topic list is going to be updated again soon. Anyone have some suggestions? :)
Voting/Debate Challenge Thread - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 05:41:00
Thanks for a fun debate! :D #membermonday
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 05:39:30
On the contrary, I quite liked the clarification
September 11th anniversary - Posted by admin 2016-09-10 16:29:49
A bit, yes. Mostly a thing making support of terrorist groups a crime. Not much else.
September 11th anniversary - Posted by admin 2016-09-10 13:19:56
Just figured there should be a thread for it :) Being 15 years on and all.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-10 02:54:13
Keeping it to only 26 seems like it would only be short, come to think of it - we should go back to A afterwards.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-09 07:19:38
Hope we can keep this going all the way to Z...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-09 01:22:19
Feeling really great with all this positive feedback :D
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-08 12:47:06
Amazing idea for a game, eh? Each post must start with the NEXT letter of the alphabet! :D
Jury Nullification - Posted by admin 2016-09-08 00:01:44
No, you've obviously never studied law or been on a jury. Before they return a verdict juries are given INSTRUCTIONS by the judge. Legally they have to follow these instructions. In the inst...
The Trolley Problem - Posted by admin 2016-09-07 00:32:17
I'm not sure that such a calculus is entirely ethical. Maybe by not posting this post I prevent a death - you don't know moral outcomes. Would it be any different if that one person was your love...
Jury Nullification - Posted by admin 2016-09-07 00:25:58
Because juries don't apply the law to the case. That's not their job.
Jury Nullification - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 15:16:10
Because juries do not interpret law. At no point during legal trials do juries ever consider the law, EXCEPT in deciding whether to use jury nullification. It makes no sense. And there's no system of ...
Riddles - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 13:49:40
Also do this to protect your answers :P
Riddles - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 13:41:46
What's your favorite riddle? Post suggested answers, too! :D
The Trolley Problem - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 13:39:29
Debate classic for philosophy Wednesday. :) Say you have a trolley on a track to kill 10 people, but you can redirect it in a way that causes it to kill only one. Would you redirect it? Main...
Online debating schools of thought - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 13:34:19
I see debating online as being not so much of a philosophical distinction but rather a technological shift that necessitated innovation. Early debate websites were more of a forum structure. The ...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 05:32:33
If you aren't then just say so. I don't think the label is helpful. Profit being the goal is what makes capitalism successful as an economic system. That kinda depends on your definition of ...
Jury Nullification - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 05:16:12
Personally I oppose it. Judges are there specifically to interpret law. Ordinary citizens are supposed to be qualified to interpret facts. Expecting them to interpret law kinda makes you question what...
DDO - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 05:15:57
It also depends on who you value. I mean, vBates used to have a very strong audience when they launched because they were literally the platform for a sort of European shadow World Schools tournament...
DDO - Posted by admin 2016-09-05 19:56:28
Not exactly. There's a lot of stuff behind it. Basically the mods and I have a personal issue, nothing site-rule related. Was just a very public and ugly spat.
Shoutouts of the week - Posted by admin 2016-09-05 01:19:01
Put two at symbols before and after the name. I call it double at tagging.
Suggestion - Posted by admin 2016-09-05 01:09:19
Why not put it on the feature request tracker?
Shoutouts of the week - Posted by admin 2016-09-04 17:44:53
Monday's semi-regular feature is back! I'd like to thank a few people: @Famousdebater and Black Flag for cool forum discussions Also, to @cooldudebro for tournament stuff And every...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-04 05:07:34
Sorry - I mean, all REVENUE is normal.
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-04 05:05:53
So are you assuming I believe everything that other social liberals or social democrats believe? In general I tend to argue with people everywhere. For what it's worth, I don't believe in private...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-04 03:35:03
I don't know that there has to be that dichotomy. An economy can take on elements of capitalism and elements from outside it. To define an economy by the framework of an idea limits you in a policy se...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-03 22:25:36
But you accept the capitalist framework. Not entirely. Are you saying if I make a bad decision and lose my job and become homeless, that is violation of freedom? Yes. You have lost freedom,...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-03 20:57:41
As I said I'm not an absolute capitalist. The control in capitalism is exactly that power system, and it violates freedom to determine one's own whole standing with good or bad decisions. So we need t...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-03 05:42:26
I'm not a capitalist in any sort of absolute sense. My own idea of a free market rests heavily on the assurance of negative freedoms, that is, freedom from the consequences of the decisions of others....
Best place? - Posted by admin 2016-09-03 05:03:08
I'm good right where I am :D
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-03 02:58:47
To some extent. For example, I believe that hierarchy is inherent in good decision making. If somebody chooses to smoke, knowing the risks, and gets lung cancer, that's on them, at least as far a...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 22:22:28
Much more left than right. Though few people are absolutely either, of course.
Hong Kong election - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 22:21:15
Starry Lee, no doubt. Anti-China sentiment is strong but she's got enough sway to keep a majority. Still it's crucial for the independence movement to secure some kind of a mandate.
Hong Kong election - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 21:51:51
...is tomorrow. Just wanted to point that out. Anyone remember the 2014 protests there?
Public transport - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 21:48:05
Is it a good thing? Do you use it? What's it like where you are and how could it be improved, if at all?
What's your "spirit animal"? - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 21:43:42
Now that's more like it!
What's your "spirit animal"? - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 04:06:08
That doesn't excuse lacking a cool picture.
What's your "spirit animal"? - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 00:57:14
Cool picture?
New Stuff - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 00:52:11
Is it possible for you to make tagging work in the shoutbox? The problem I've run into is this: what happens if you get a notification that you were at tagged in a shoutbox, but then you get to the ...
Missile Defense concept - Posted by admin 2016-09-01 19:23:54
Even that's a LOT when you're talking about a country with many thousands of miles squared. And the sensors and everything, I think missiles would definitely work out cheaper in 95% of cases.
Missile Defense concept - Posted by admin 2016-09-01 17:15:29
Wouldn't you need anti-missile guns virtually everywhere a missile could possibly land though? I was under the impression missile defense usually used missiles because they have better range.
What's your "spirit animal"? - Posted by admin 2016-09-01 13:38:05
Doing a thing for my Saturday science theme. If you were a non-human animal, what would you be? What animal do you most identify with? Tell us why and post a cool picture of your chosen anim...
Should we let species die? - Posted by admin 2016-09-01 13:36:24
Bringing back my themed weekdays. Happy Saturday Science. Today's topic: last week we talked about protecting the environment with national parks. What about protecting other forms of biodiversit...
New Stuff - Posted by admin 2016-09-01 13:08:33
Just some minor things today, but hopefully you all like them :D Notable fixes include: - Shoutboxes now embed Youtube video and make links clickable - Tournaments now have round-by-round odd...
Missile Defense concept - Posted by admin 2016-09-01 07:27:04
How is this different from other missile defense systems?
DDO - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 12:03:39
I'm guessing my history with DDO is pretty well known already.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 06:14:56
I mean, does this look like propaganda to you, or a legitimate warning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd1qR66gcLQ There's more propagandist elements in this than Triumph of the Will. It ev...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 06:08:17
Sure. Heck, I'm skeptical of their whole nuclear program. They won't successfully test a long range nuclear missile anytime soon.
Nationalism vs Regionalism - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 06:06:49
Just generally the way I've heard it used around debate societies and such. It's certainly a less specific word than nationalism.
Nationalism vs Regionalism - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 02:39:17
I think a more general definition in IR would hold that regionalism usually refers to blocs. For example supporting the TPP would be regionalism above nationalism.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 02:37:24
The threats are there so they can give their people the impression that they CAN destroy America if they continue to work together. It's like the common goal isn't global domination, it's overthrowing...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 02:04:38
They want to continue with their current form of government, doing what they please internally, while also trading normally with the rest of the world.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 00:44:01
Or maybe because they don't actually want to attack places. They just want to appear big and important. The embargo is really hurting the north korean people and they'd really say anything to restore ...
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-30 03:05:48
Well it's up to you, I can see certain themes are certainly becoming repetitive ie micro vs macro level (you bringing up cells again), or starting point of potentiality being arbitrarily defined among...
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-30 02:30:55
I think that only proves that the potential of life is irrelevant, since we are alive in spite of being able to die at any moment. Hypothetically if we were immortal, we would still be alive. Yea...
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-30 01:06:53
Not really sure about that acorn example. If an acorn is still connected to a tree, I'd consider it part of the tree. Ultimately it's a semantic difference. As I said, and @famousdebater would ba...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 16:50:51
Ban notices include my email address. Anyone can reach me using admin at edeb8 dt com anyway.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 16:18:21
Our usual rule is that bans happen until the person involved apologizes to me and to the rest of the site, and there is no sustained objection to it at that time.
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 03:52:05
In a biological sense, no, they wouldn't. Rather they'd be the data that was once stored inside a person's mind. There's this misconception that such data can think on it's own in some virtual world -...
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 03:35:26
If you divide life into phases, the point where you are starting the first so-called phase is just as arbitrary. You might as well say falling in love is the first phase of life and thus construct a b...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 03:19:06
Don't really know why people bother.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 03:17:07
Alright, sure. That's a second TOU violation on two levels - participation in a healthy community and trolling. Enjoy your last few moments on the site.
Polls - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 03:14:52
Sure there is. That's why you go on threads all over the site telling people that it sucks. Not the behavior of somebody who's come to terms with it.
One thing I hate about debating is... - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 03:13:42
Sure, after you made many factual claims and didn't source them. Yet just earlier on when somebody asked you for a source for a factual claim, you straight away went on this thread and called it ...
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 02:30:22
"You" being a single cell is almost assuming "you" are already alive at that point. It's true that not every cell is an embryo, but that doesn't indicate that life begins when you ...
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 02:21:25
"Common sense" isn't an argument in the first place. You can't make a counter-argument to a nonexistent argument.
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 02:19:06
So would you say "you" are several billion lives, or just one? The human body is designed to recycle cells... killing a cell is not a crime, or else we'd all be in prison.
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 02:16:51
Personally I think my views are well-known. Abortion should not be banned. The fetus becomes living when it is born. I believe this because that's when most of the usual bodily functions tha...
One thing I hate about debating is... - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 02:03:41
Sort of ironic, then, that you did exactly this on the North Korea thread just yesterday... you made an argument, I made a counter-argument, and all you could say was "prove it" ;)
Polls - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 02:01:12
You know that's not true. I've done more than you or anyone else has ever been willing to do. You're just saying that because you think you're entitled to make the site be whatever you personally want...
Polls - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 01:58:49
Very, since we already have polls in groups. However, it would probably not be congruent with the overall aims of the site, since we are more of a formal debate club than an informal opinion vent...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 01:56:41
On the one hand this is so ridiculous I want to think it's a joke. On the other hand, if this happened to anyone else I'd have already banned you. I'll think about it.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 01:21:39
And you don't think ostracizing somebody is bullying? Seesh, even most schoolchildren have more class than that.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-28 23:21:11
No, it's not
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-28 03:26:42
Well, I've said it before - weapons aren't defense. If nations have any defense forces against foreign attack, they should be hospitals etc. Not instruments of war. Notwithstanding that, N Korea ...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 23:47:40
No because I don't believe in striking. Big fan of being nice to people, even enemies. It's just that it's so much stupider to strike when your justification for striking doesn't add up.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 15:43:09
No, larger blasts just mean they've stockpiled more material / saved it up for longer. Or that they've masked their results more. The NPA has limited their scientific understanding significantly ...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 15:10:09
No they're not. You're asking them to cover for the fact that you didn't expect me to have researched this previously. It grew to 2004, scaled back around 05-12, and the last few years has grown ...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 14:38:52
Speculation means nothing, and none of what you just said was sourced either. Here is a brief primer on their claimed tests: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-17823706 Note none of the tests i...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 14:05:02
Great. Map proves it would take out about 5ish blocks, where considerably less than that number of people live. Now prove they have a 10kt bomb.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 13:45:45
Sure you did. You cited that N Korea has nuclear weapons that can level entire cities and kill tens of millions, among others. I didn't prompt those claims.
California Water Crisis - Let them dessicate! - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 13:42:58
I've believed in all three of those for years, but you misunderstood me. I prefer welfare to tax breaks, but my point was that neither should be given to people because they have kids. I've always bel...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 13:38:03
I also think there's a worrying trend of expecting people to prove negatives on this site. If you claim North Korea has dinosaurs, I shouldn't have to find a source saying they don't.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 13:35:47
You source your outrageous claims first. Please source non-propaganda sources. If you bring a claim and I don't demand a source for a counterclaim, it's really unethical for you to expect me to source...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 12:52:41
Nor does N Korea. Nowhere close. Heck, all nuclear weapons ever detonated combined haven't killed anywhere close to that many. I've looked it up extensively - they've only done 4 tests, 2 of whic...
California Water Crisis - Let them dessicate! - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 12:46:52
Nor do I long-term. Immediately you could do stuff like ensuring clean water is routed first to homeless shelters and such... the point is, control of the water supply is a class issue. So the economi...
California Water Crisis - Let them dessicate! - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 12:01:22
For example, assistance with moving to Michigan if it's so great over there ;)
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 11:59:14
I think such possibility need to be fairly non-remote. N Korea is no more a threat to global peace right now than Fiji. The ones they've likely detonated, at least semi-successfully, could probab...
California Water Crisis - Let them dessicate! - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 11:54:14
Generally I agree. Reminds me of when Saudi tried to drag a chunk of Antarctica over to their country. The only thing I'd add is that the federal government should move to protect the poor in such are...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 11:09:32
Telling me to turn it in while trying to tell you that a war is not necessary sure is ironic. Sure, the North Korean weapons and army COULD BE threats. North Korea, however, is definitely not. ...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 06:16:33
Is it time we should strike North Korea to destroy their long-range missiles and nuclear weapons? No Are they a serious threat? Definitely not
National Parks - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 05:53:53
Also, are national parks a good idea? Awesome idea, protecting precious bits of land for future generations. Should they be government run? Yip If you had a large amount of land availab...
National Parks - Posted by admin 2016-08-26 14:20:10
In honor of National Parks in the US celebrating their 100th birthday a couple of days ago... What are national parks or other conservation lands like in your area? Feel free to share some pictur...
One thing I hate about debating is... - Posted by admin 2016-08-26 14:15:34
Share your biggest debating pet peeves here! Also, remember to give others you agree with a thumbs up. :D
Live chat debates - Posted by admin 2016-08-26 14:13:39
You're on a roll with good ideas today :)
Live chat debates - Posted by admin 2016-08-26 12:50:00
Very true.
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-25 22:52:55
But I'm not positively discriminating. I hold one moral position to the exclusion of others. ANY belief a person holds is a form of discrimination, including the disbelief in positive discrimination. ...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-25 12:03:27
So.... discrimination? Not sure why this should be bad as a moral principle. In fact it's self refuting since you're discriminating against discrimination. Do you support that? No, I think l...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-25 02:13:08
Provide the basis and the historical origin next time you reply. You might have to wait until tomorrow.
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-25 02:02:46
So do you acknowledge that controlling liberty is harming people's happiness at least temporarily? It can do. People have subjective standards for happiness. Likewise not controlling happiness harms...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-25 01:31:45
Now you only believe physical harm is wrong? No Do you deny that liberty and happiness are needed for a happy life? Sure. Lack of liberty to murder is going to make some people unhappy, and...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-25 01:28:36
I don't really accept the premise.
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-24 19:33:17
They don't harm life, they harm liberty, and might harm happiness. That's not to say that the person is harmed overall. Restorative justice can work. I defined it in the previous sentence.
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-24 19:19:53
I agree that harming somebody is always wrong. People twist the meaning of violence until just about everything qualifies as violence to prove a point though. I can't breathe anymore without somebody ...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-24 19:00:50
When you stop somebody from hurting themselves, that's probably the classic counterexample.
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-24 18:56:48
People can do what they like, unless there is a moral reason etc not to do something.
Sharing thing - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 12:05:26
I'm currently trialing just using the ShareThis plugin for the social buttons on all debates. Old style sharing buttons are at the top still of the forums and everything else. I realize 99% of pe...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 06:34:44
Sure but if you look at the word violence more carefully, you'll realize it's usually not defined as broadly as any force. Usually you actually have to physically HARM somebody for it to count as viol...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 04:55:51
Violence can be justified, in my view, if it is non-destructive. If violence is used to harm somebody, or to harm society, then it's not justified as a moral principle. Notwithstanding that, violence ...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 04:48:46
Well, if a train conductor uses physical force to stop somebody walking off a moving train, that would be justified too.
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 04:29:07
Depends what you count as violence. For example I believe prisons should exist.
Live chat debates - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 02:24:07
I think it's safe to say every major renown debate union disagrees with you that debate is just a discussion of opposing viewpoints. Debating can be elitist like that when it's competitive.
Live chat debates - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 01:12:29
Roughly $15ish a month
Live chat debates - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 00:11:39
It's possible, but judging / recording them isn't unfortunately. The trouble is paying for a server to do the recording.
Live chat debates - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 00:10:53
It's kinda outside our niche since it's not very formal.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 23:55:28
do you you believe that will lead to the end goal of equality? I don't believe that affirmative action works Not sure what they has to do with anything. The impact our decisions have on oth...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 23:38:27
The end goal of mainstream feminism is female entitlement. Not in my view. How much of it do you think constitutes discrimination. Depends on the context. not the latest wave Third wa...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 16:39:51
Mainstream feminists disrespect the ideals of their predecessors by advocating affirmative action and instigating outcry against honesty. I support the same goals even though I may occasionally dis...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 16:20:49
It was the moment you said you were aligned with modern feminism. Either way, same problem. In what ways are women being discriminated? Some places in the world it's more transparent than o...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 16:03:31
Oh really? Because the moment I mentioned I'm a feminist you were pretty dismissive of me. My goals for political policy etc are at best only informed by my feminist affiliation. I also oppose ag...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 15:50:16
Sure, I stated that goal a few posts ago. Feminism is the belief that genders should be substantively equal, especially as pertains to society and the law.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 15:43:44
Goals are the most important ideas of all. They might not have immediate consequence but they reveal not only moral character, but often, long-term direction as well.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 15:31:57
I have my own ideas of how to get there. For example ending the stigmatization of the idea of feminism, like you dismissing my ideas as SJW or whatever. Hiding opposition to feminism behind ad homs is...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 15:18:13
Those are the goals. A goal is not a method. Goals are ends, like feminism is an end. Being a feminist doesn't mean you support any particular policy.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 15:09:59
Improving gender social equality, wherever inequality exists.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 14:56:53
Me being a feminist includes my belief that it's great that they do. I'm just pointing out that being a feminist is not inconsistent with opposing affirmative action.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 12:36:04
Doesn't need to be race or gender based, to break down race or gender based obstacles. For example, I don't consider something like paid maternal leave to be affirmative action, since even though it i...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 11:55:24
Still doesn't mean it isn't worth posing questions from time to time :)
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 05:25:35
create opportunities for them, for one. How those look might depend on the specific obstacle.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 05:22:13
I don't agree with most other so-called "classical liberals" about the means but agree about a free & equal end. Liberalism in the classical sense is just the pursuit of freedom and equa...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 05:21:11
Obviously your views are not in line with mainstream feminism. Sure but my goals are, and that's what feminism is. Goals. You don't see a dumbed down society as a problem? Not necessarily if...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 04:35:23
The question is not whether you support feminism. The question is whether you support mainstream feminists . I don't support everything that mainstream feminists say. I support mainstream feminism. ...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 04:06:58
If you are to agree with mainstream feminists (not general feminism) , then you would be in agreement with the policies they advocate for. How does this logically follow? If I want to agree with a m...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 03:54:33
The means are just as important as the ends. So you think that because I agree with an end I need to agree with every means that most people agree would achieve that end? That's absurd. Like fo...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 03:07:23
At the moment, females have more leverage in society. In some marginal specific ways, yes. If you do not believe in affirmative action, then you should not support mainstream feminists. Femi...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 03:01:36
I'd define it as the active belief that more needs to be done to empower those of marginalized genders.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 02:23:22
Right, because males aren't entitled? I don't support affirmative action but I certainly believe that sentiments like what you've just said prove that feminism is still required. Just like men...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 02:14:20
Because I think it's important that gender doesn't restrict people on the feminism side of things. And because I don't see any problems.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-16 22:05:41
Yip.
Edit option - Posted by admin 2016-08-16 05:01:25
The edeb8 forum is very simple. Even things like categories are very much hacked together because of how simple it is. Since I wrote it I didn't put in the code for either editing or viewing a history...
Edit option - Posted by admin 2016-08-16 04:53:15
Primarily, yes.
Edit option - Posted by admin 2016-08-16 04:46:51
Because I can't afford to have porn on here for 5 minutes. I can't be on here every 5 minutes either. Even coming on every day is tough sometimes.
Edit option - Posted by admin 2016-08-16 04:21:34
Depends on the software. I'm wary of the space required to implement an edit history, and it's kinda of limited value since it's just as quick to post a correction usually. Of course there's the ...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-16 04:16:41
All sound good to me.
Edit option - Posted by admin 2016-08-16 04:13:42
The problem with this is tracking a history for each post for moderation purposes.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 23:20:36
That too but that's already pretty well-known.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 23:20:10
Sure because not every reply will be relevant. I don't want to argue about my opinions in this thread, I want to explain which of my opinions shock people as was the intention. If you want to argue st...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 10:20:13
I was replying to a post where you said you can't stand something.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 10:19:43
Yeah, no. Biopics about the life of Shakespeare do not emulate the greatness of Shakespeare. Porn only marginally simulates sex, and certainly doesn't emulate it.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 10:16:03
Personally you can't stand it. I think more Americans agree with you than those of any other nation.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 10:07:07
It's like saying period drama films are the same as real history.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 08:33:02
I feel that a few hundred years ago, relative to other countries that existed at that time, the US was better. US today hasn't improved a lot, forwards in some ways, backwards in others, while the res...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 07:49:52
The culturally reflected average American. I don't have census data on what every American believes but I can make an estimation based on what I see. Just a moment ago, we heard the defensiveness...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 03:59:08
Pornography emulates real life sex. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha... oh wait you're serious...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 03:57:24
So it's bad because there's rape, violence, and media censorship. Yip, I hear a lot more about those things out of the US than I do out of Eritrea. At the very least Eritreans realize their cou...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 03:51:13
It wasn't free, but we have it for free. That's the main issue I have with it, yes. It assumes a mode of production that's really not been relevant since the 18th century.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 03:50:15
My previous reply explained why. As for how, that's not relevant to the OP.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 00:42:42
I explained that in the shoutbox last night but apparently you weren't interested in hearing it. Basically because we're all the same. Only in caring for each other can we care for ourselves. The most...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 00:41:09
Well that's the thing. These are cultural beliefs on the basis of a position of cultural ignorance, since I am not American, have never been there, and don't really know what it's like. But personally...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 00:37:42
I'm not trying to convince you. I'm trying to explain my own position as is relevant to the OP.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 00:33:03
I believe that cooperation should be a right that all people guarantee. If somebody's suffering, everyone helps them out.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 23:40:37
Sure if you count corporates tossing off money to each other, absolutely. A lot of US billionaires have nothing better to do.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 23:39:18
It's an opinion, not an absolute truth. Something like culture is hard to prove. I observe it in the news I hear, the people I meet, and the things I witness. A few examples: America is one of th...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 23:18:06
Somebody teaches them without them earning it. When parents teach children to talk, they're not usually making a financial transaction, but they are making a huge economic one.
A lot of you are unimportant - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:56:49
Me.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:56:27
Lot of other superpowers I'd gladly prefer.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:54:16
Yet people get most of what they have for free. Language, maths, social skills etc ... you didn't invent those things or work for them. They were handed down by past generations. And that's a good thi...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:42:31
Working for work's sake is not a value. Working for profit is. Try rolling a rock up a hill endlessly - the point of work is achievement / accomplishment.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:40:43
No, they were not done by one person. Read 1700s newspapers.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:39:59
Mine doesn't but Michigan certainly profited, true. I used to live in an area called Karaka which bred horses. And that's an example of a place that went downhill at the same time. Econometr...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:29:22
Actually not true. Horses needed more labor, between shoeing, grooming, stabling, veterinarians, breeding, cleaning the streets of horse poo etc etc. With Ford's assembly line, cars were mass produced...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:25:24
I don't like the culture. It hates on the poor, the weak and marginalized. Drugs are normal. People put profit before lives. They seek to kill those they don't like. Violence is everywhere, matched on...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:11:43
At some point it is inefficient for even us to perform that maintenance. People said the same about horses before they were usurped by cars. As the horse was replaced and people found lazier forms of ...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:38:45
I'm not saying you are. To quote a certain bully, "oh great king of strawman". That doesn't invalidate her experience. So far as her points can be inverted they make total sense.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:29:21
Because she's expressing herself from a female POV. If you say the same but invert the genders, it sounds right to me. Therefore I don't see how it can be denied from a female POV either.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:27:28
Human work ethic loses value as more efficient modes of production come along. Over time the economy becomes more and more knowledge-based, because humans are inefficient physically. And in the long t...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:23:00
I'd last less time in the US
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:20:33
Ok but so does she. None of these statements are inherently wrong: Straight females don't know what straight males find satisfying Women should be 100% supportive of fathers they're in relationshi...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:13:54
You know, you could probably swap around men and women in her post and it would still make a lot of sense. Taking a standard one way does not mean it could not be inverted.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:11:54
Absolutely. I don't think robots is how it would look, but if so, let's work towards that! It's probably even more shocking over here. Personally I disagree with you there, it's not the...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:06:17
Labor becomes less necessary for survival as technology improves, also. Many professions once vital for survival are now gone. With charity, the fat cats don't have to pay. So of course they supp...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 14:40:10
Question is when it will be spent and when the value of that spending is realized. In the short run money can get stuck in investments. To the point that feds lower the OCR and that's how bubbles happ...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 14:18:20
And those so-called unproductive people - who in fact society owes a great deal to since most of the value held by society was not created by that society - they just hoard up their money? That would ...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 13:58:57
Freeing up land doesn't diversify the economy. Those people "forced to compete" when they moved off farms, were actually largely treated as slaves during the industrial revolution. Many died...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 13:39:19
That land has largely gone into having more fields. We have a booming population yet more than enough food to sustain everyone. Personally I find that insanely cool esp. since so many of us eat insane...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 13:16:48
So let's take the farming industry since it was brought up earlier. Has farm tech increased or decreased jobs available? Exactly. Their work would be shit. And not productive. It would be pointle...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 12:19:03
Well pick a side. Whether proportionate or not, technology means that less work is available over time. Generalizations can be hate speech even if they're honest, which BTW yours aren't. Calling ...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 11:59:48
Then technology creates unemployment if it's disproportionate. Sure you hate them, that's why you use hateful language. I don't think you even realize that the words you use can have that effect....
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 11:42:03
I wonder if you'd impose the same standards on people raised by single fathers, then. Some of my best friends as a kid were orphans and they turned out just fine.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 11:25:32
You did, when you said jobs are displaced into new industries. You know I condemn any use of drugs, but that's no excuse to hate on somebody, much less stereotype a group. Structural unemplo...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 11:00:53
Job displacement is not always a 1-1 correlation. You can verify that too. It's more than you think and it's getting worse. NZT estimates put structural unemployment at 3%, and the best economic ...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 01:36:28
Well I'll say a few of mine. Here's a rough top 10. 1. I think the USA is the worst country in the world overall 2. I oppose war in every circumstance 3. I love science and totally agree with...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 01:27:30
"Better" is relative. For the downtrodden unemployed, states are better. For greedy fat cats, charity is better.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 01:26:16
Technology always reduces the pool of jobs while often increasing the number of people. Over time that collapses employment structures. I am. I want everyone to live nice lives even if they can't...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-12 11:20:03
You do seem to like nothing more than judging people, especially me.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-12 05:17:56
And without receiving they die. Assume that there are always less jobs than people. Now clearly some people will die. Therefore the assumption must be there are more jobs than people ie full emplo...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-12 05:05:45
So that assumes that full employment always happens without a central state, or that some people are just unlucky / screwed. Doesn't sound that good to me.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-12 02:33:23
No. I was raised by a single mom and while certainly there was some pushback, it wasn't like she was blamed for literally every social and economic problem in the world. Usually it was just vague refe...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-12 01:58:16
That single moms aren't the cause of most of America's economic and social turmoil. Uhm ... who does this shock?
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-12 01:57:09
I disagree on your point regarding money and goods. Communities can manage those things between themselves. I don't know that such a society could survive without courts but before you even get to tha...
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-11 01:23:37
If you don't have a reason for why something's moral then it follows you don't have a system for what makes something moral.
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-11 00:27:49
I do. I think morality in general, and moral systems in particular, can't be reduced to a cost-benefit analysis. Different people have different expectations of morally significant decisions based on ...
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-11 00:18:09
There's an assumption there that motivation is inherently intrinsic and personal.
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:52:18
Which is interesting because you're expecting something for me that you won't offer yourself. Also I'm not debating you, I'm having a forum discussion. My only reason is that it's seems like a go...
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:43:31
Some people never learn to avoid personal attacks in a way that's clearly targeting a specific individual...
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:42:54
You can expect me to say the same thing. I didn't have a personal reason. That I need one is your assumption.
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:33:39
Maybe that I asked you to answer for your own standard about a dozen posts ago and got no reply, and have been badgering you about it since. For what it's worth you only asked two questions. Answ...
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:25:07
Like you're any different, right?
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:20:14
Oh yeah. That can be morally valid. Virtually anything works as a moral system. It's moral actions I may have trouble with.
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:10:59
Not utility, because I don't judge moral outcomes by utility. I don't have a reason beyond my moral beliefs. Moral systems like utilitarianism or my own views are themselves the justification, no...
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:04:58
You're taking utilitarianism without reason, too. All morality relates to what you think is best for the future. This is what I think is the best course of action, not for me, but for the future ...
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 19:56:16
That I believe helping people is morally good. Even if I get nothing out of it. It's just my personal morals. Because I believe in doing what's right even if it doesn't always make me happy.
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 19:32:29
Sometimes I, for one, like helping people although I'm getting nothing in return.
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 19:28:58
More than that, it's independent because it's common, as opposed to subjective which relates only to one subject. But I understand why we have a disagreement regardless.
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 05:27:51
My understanding of objective morality is that it means all people have exactly the same moral beliefs. It sounds like your understanding is just that other moral beliefs are wrong. I'm sorr...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 04:15:54
Then those cultures and religions have different moral values. It sounds like you really believe that SOME morality is objective and SOME is not.
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 03:28:21
And why may they have different values?
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 03:22:36
States are made up of humans, and are ultimately always controlled by some human(s) somewhere, right? So why is it not natural for states?
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 03:11:51
You have no idea how close I just came to clicking this little button here to ban you. Trust me, it's tempting. Not because you disagree with me, but because of how you resort to personal attacks...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 03:10:34
Objective morality doesn't mean "applies" to all humans. It means all humans believe it.
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 02:51:23
Then how can morality change the moment you talk about it in the context of states?
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-09 22:05:45
It's like I'm arguing against those vegetarians who say that humans are immoral because we use force on animals... and they use force on plants... at some point it's just about what you use the force ...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-09 09:58:40
Well, you can say my definitions are wrong, but not that they're inconsistent. I said virtually the exact same stuff on page one of this thread and you accused me of the same thing. If people are...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-09 05:56:11
Definition is a limitation, description is adding detail. Not all states are equally cooperative. All states equally meet the definition of a state. Theoretical people can't control anything. Try...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-09 04:29:47
Well it certainly doesn't define a state, but it does describe it. In a state, people co-operate. For a basic example, legislature makes laws, judiciary interprets law, and executive enforces law. Wit...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-09 03:37:01
That's nice because it's also how it's done WITH a state. You don't start or stop cooperating with or without one. States just allow you to mobilize greater populations under shared rules. Even if it'...
Site update - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 21:54:58
Mostly just minor things today guys: 1. The permissive judging standard (which is what we had before the community one) is back to being the default 2. Some fixes to forums - notably, posting s...
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 21:30:15
One more time to be sure... wow this thread is great for bugtracking. XD
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 21:29:47
And again
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 21:26:20
And now something else :)
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 21:23:39
Just testing something out
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 21:20:52
Nah, I do
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 04:51:21
You're kinda missing my point about cooperation. If morality were objective, everyone would either obey or disobey the law. I mean all those (political, economic, social). With specific rega...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 02:44:10
In the context of massive infrastructure projects, when you talk about management of such projects, you'll find you have a hard time justifying that from the RBV. Community gardens, sure, those can wo...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 02:11:15
At a certain point, large scale cooperation requires consistent rules and management. That's called governance. A government is formed when a society works together to achieve various ends. If th...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 06:51:36
As an aside, in my ideal world, criminals should have the right to vote.
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 06:51:07
If you want a more detailed series of arguments from me, a forum isn't where you'll get them. This site has a perfectly good debate feature. I did not answer what deterred crime either. I answere...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 06:26:47
Several of them are basically the same question. These I'm answering thematically as I tend to do. Keeps our posts shorter. Ideally, they help determine what is a crime. It's a system for al...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 05:48:11
Those in the highest office, or associated with the highest office, are above the rule of law. To that I'd simply say that I'd oppose a state where this is true.
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 05:44:13
You're talking about states as if they're all the same. They're not. I can only answer for how I ideally would want a state organized, not in any absolutes. Most nations use the english system of...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 05:20:53
Sure, that's why I said wider infrastructure. You could certainly build a dirt road in your backyard with no state, but much stuff requires a broader organizing body. States don't stop murder but...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 04:58:49
Oh right I forgot you changed your name. @Crow
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 04:57:05
You need states to support wider infrastructure and the rule of law. Failing states, churches usually assume the role of a state, or other social institutions. Positive freedom in the sense of na...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 03:44:26
1. I'd say it's a body of persons and institution who collectively govern a geographic area 2. Its definition 3. In the long run, yes 4. Moral 5. To help ensure freedom & equality for all
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-08-06 06:01:54
Yes.
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-08-05 20:51:58
Mandatory explanations already exists as an option btw
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-08-05 19:35:07
Yes. Not only did the site support it, they proposed it in the first place and pushed for it. I called for feedback on it and at the time everybody just said they wanted it. I then wrote a standard, a...
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-08-05 19:27:26
Community support. It would probably be a change to an open standard default first.
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 06:03:10
Feel free to call it what you want. It's a sustained pattern of ad hom attacks, which is against the rules. And all this arguing about it isn't helping you one bit.
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 05:56:52
No, you get over yourself. I've told you before, I won't tolerate this kind of thing. It's not constructive dialog so it doesn't belong here. You have absolutely no right to tell me otherwise.
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 05:51:11
You know, I hate to do this but ... here's an official warning for bullying. You have a real problem with not knowing when to stop a personal attack. It's your second warning in as many days. Not cool...
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 05:35:40
But not all statism is liberalism. Liberalism is an end, statism is a means. You haven't answered the end at all, and your more practical attack is unsubstantiated. What am I to say? I may sugges...
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 05:15:45
Which is annoying BTW, because it feels like it's impossible to have a principle discussion on the merits of policy with you, since you always bring it back to you questioning the sense in having any ...
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 05:12:52
Taxes / welfare / regulations are not always bad. Question is what they do. At some point you're scapegoating liberalism when really you just want to rant about states again. You've tied none of this...
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 04:38:10
Businesses are not being destroyed by liberalism. If they are being destroyed by government it is not because of liberal policy. Monopolies exist because of barriers to entry. I refer you again t...
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 04:02:10
That claim cannot logically exist without examining a company's total financial burden. If you claim the burden of the government is too much - let alone that it's because of liberal policy - then you...
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 03:26:56
Sure it discriminates, and that's not a bad thing. We give charity to the poor and not the rich for the same reason. It's not really a radical belief that people ought to contribute according to their...
Edeb8's The Novice - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 02:53:23
Who are the 3 judges this time around :P
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 02:52:23
So there's a few responses I have. Obviously I could talk about how things such as progressive taxation - a very liberal policy - solve for these harms, but your attack isn't a practical one as I read...
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 01:16:05
Merriam Webster is providing an alternate definition here, as would be used in contexts like "heavy industry" or "industrial revolution". Investopedia is more or less saying t...
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 08:30:46
As I said originally, industry = all economic activity in one market.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 08:25:31
I've had more than enough of an economics education to know that this is correct. If you produce something, even alone, even if not for sale, that is economic activity. It counts towards GDP as all ot...
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 07:52:14
Yes they are. They are exchanging factors of production for production. Goods and not services is problematic.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 07:46:14
Anyone who thinks economics is about money clearly hasn't studied barter economies, among numerous others. Economics is about exchange, and money is just a medium of exchange.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 07:41:46
Sole traders, services, charities etc are also parts of industries. I understand industry to mean economic activity in a particular market. Regardless of money, goods etc involved.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 07:34:32
Sure, some people grow their own tobacco and roll their own cigarettes too. Industry should not be taken to imply anything singular.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 07:02:24
Both could be true. Industries generally profit off people wasting time. If that's destructive in some fashion (ie smoking) it's not like the industry cares.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 05:43:46
There's not a lot for me to add, since I don't really know or care about the subject. It's a way for some people to waste time AFAIK.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 17:51:06
Any supporting logic or evidence you want to add to this?
Weekly member shoutouts - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 17:48:02
I'd like to start by thanking everyone involved in this year's WODC. Looking forward to seeing some fun debates :D
Weekly member shoutouts - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 17:47:26
It's member monday! Give thanks or shoutouts in this thread! :)
Platonist Tournament of Philosophy Advertisement - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 17:44:32
This tournament has started now.
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 17:39:07
Exactly like that. Markets would be more volatile. You'd get big swings in inflation. Harder to enforce government policy esp. as regards to ensuring equality.
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 17:33:03
I think they sure help! A country won't inherently collapse without one but will be much more economically vulnerable.
I am back - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 17:14:31
Well yes, it's just annoying for me is all I'm saying. Originally we didn't have the option to deactivate for a long time. Just turn notifications off and go away is generally a fine alternative.
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 12:26:48
Just started :D
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 10:18:46
You will be, yes.
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 09:35:16
Check the timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160801T00&p0=264&msg=WODC+Starts&font=cursive
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 09:18:19
So excited to start round one! I can hardly wait! :D
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 05:04:06
As I had to say to Stag this morning, don't argue with the referee. This is not an adult site. I'm not legally allowed to have profanity on it. I'd much rather ban somebody who cannot stop themse...
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 04:45:55
Watch language.
I am back - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 04:44:39
I should probably rename it to delete account. Honestly that's basically what that option does.
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 19:59:49
Before you answer, if your answer includes Iran, North Korea and Libya, can you please stop believing everything you read on Facebook?
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 19:58:59
I can't really believe I have to debunk this Rothschild conspiracy stuff again. No, they don't. They just don't. First, most banks are in fact nationalized, not privatized. Second, privati...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 19:29:30
The overall rate of use, however, has. The prevalence has increased only because marijuana has increased - taking out marijuana it has dropped massively. Every single other drug is down in use as a tr...
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 19:25:57
Sure. Take Canada, notice stabilized growth since 1935. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/canada/inflation-cpi Notice that Australia jumps on the same growth curve since 1960, despite earlier wil...
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 19:02:43
Did I say countries that exist today without central banks? No. You misread me.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 19:01:04
Even that is still factually wrong. https://www.drugabuse.gov/news-events/news-releases/2015/12/drug-use-trends-remain-stable-or-decline-among-teens The only drug that has been increasing in...
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:50:23
Whether he does or not is irrelevant. Stop arguing with the referee.
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:48:24
So you're saying there's no economic data point you can look to where there is an inflation rate and no central bank?
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:44:49
So you deny that, since the US started their "war on drugs" for instance, drug use has declined? Because stats say otherwise...
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:43:31
You kinda have a problem with personal attacks. I've said this before quite a lot. Just watch it.
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:39:41
But it's true. All the data is that the institution of central banks reduces inflation by 10-20% compared to free markets. Which is a LOT.
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:34:53
NZ didn't prior to 1992.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:34:19
None of that is to say guns prevented more murders than laws did. The point is that making murder illegal reduces murders. Making drugs illegal helps reduce drug use. Laws have some impact on society.
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:28:59
If you look at countries without central banks, inflation in the double digits is common. NZ used to average about 13-14% inflation before we introduced a central bank. Within one year that dropped to...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:27:07
So then by that logic you don't believe in laws. I think drugs and robot prostitutes could also harm other people.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:25:42
They cause the murders. Without guns murders would be much harder.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 17:34:42
Would you say the same about murder? Should murder therefore be legal?
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 17:24:03
Sunday social thread! Yay! Bit of an economic question this time. Central banks issue currency and set the official cash rate, among other duties. Primarily they do this to control inflation. But...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 17:15:24
Sometimes we disallow things on the basis of social harms. Like drugs for example.
I am back - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 16:53:28
Have to do, like, 3 database queries. It's not like it's automatic.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 09:33:45
Maybe, but in debates it's relatively easy to claim these are exceptions for particular fetishes. What's your opponent going to do?
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 08:38:08
Totally, a lot of what you hear about in debates on these kinds of topics is unrealistic-body-image stuff too.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 08:25:09
As somebody who doesn't watch porn, I don't really get the appeal. I know I'm a minority but eh.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 08:23:41
ok, noted. I'm going to try and see if I can reproduce it and keep you informed. :)
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 08:10:48
Is that behavior consistent? So like, this message here, does the red #1 not appear until you come to this page?
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 06:57:18
By default when you view a notification by opening it up (clicking on your avatar) it dismisses the message automatically, so you don't get notified about the same thing again unless you view your not...
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 06:48:25
@JoMomma how about for this message?
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 06:48:12
First of all can you tell me if you get a notification for this reply?
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:59:51
I also find it interesting how discussions on robots inevitably drift THIS closely to discussions on humans.
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:55:04
Life is much less short, meaningless and miserable, in my view, today than it was 100 years ago. Something's clearly working.
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:47:32
Can't say a perfect life doesn't sound tempting to me. Most of what humans do is about making their lives a little less short, meaningless and miserable.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:46:17
Not like street solicitation means you are tax exempt. Given the safer working environment and economies of scale, cheap, licensed brothels make good money. The only difficulty is usually location, be...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:43:13
That is why I argue over who I trust to do that arguing for me. Since there are too many political concerns for me to deal with every day.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:38:11
If there's a greater supply then there are economic incentives to open more brothels. I'd question why somebody doesn't open cheaper brothels in those places. You could make a fortune.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:35:53
That is probably the maximum limit of yuck-ness that I can allow.
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:30:44
Then you misunderstand the economic definition of a public good. Which is a good nobody wants to buy but everyone wants to have. As part of the state, I quite like discourse as a means to solving...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:28:38
Think it's pretty universal. I mean, not like licensed brothels have very high barriers to entry. Usually you can find a job at one by being a healthy female.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:20:33
Licensed brothels are more attractive for similar reasons. Street solicitation is very rare.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:18:06
The harm is though that you can't regulate it. Who's to say those underground realistic kiddie dolls aren't modeled after 3d scans of real children? And at that point the state has a big obligation to...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:14:35
If the coop produced something people wanted that was just too expensive then that's not a public good. You don't need to break the law to dissent.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:04:30
Not actually true. Price is set by demand and supply. Demand is high for illegal prostitutes and supply is low. Most people and most prostitutes therefore go to the legal ones. In NZ we have seen mass...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:02:12
I can understand that to a significant extent. Wouldn't that just drive the business underground though?
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:00:59
You need state institutions because some people break their promises or don't want to go through the system to effect change. There is a natural right to be killed by your fellow man. And we forf...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 04:49:22
But that activity pretty clearly has an impact down the line ie the death of another person. I think most people would accept that if you pay for a murder, you're somewhat culpable if that person dies...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 04:48:04
All the more reason to legalize it IMO.
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 04:32:01
What if the decisions are made collaboratively by all the relevant stakeholders? And we force anyone making a decision to consult with everyone who might be affected by it, rather than only thinking o...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 04:28:52
To further this point, human prostitutes get tested for STDs a lot. Would massively reduce their value if they had one so they're extra careful with that.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 04:27:21
So paying for murder is victimless? Even though the act of paying for murder has no victims and the act of murder is another crime?
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 04:25:56
So there's a few things here that such groups are selling themselves on already if you look at the market for sex dolls: Price Availability Ability to do what you want with them Customized ...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 04:22:17
Yes. I use sunscreen, don't drink caffeine. The ocean is not a strong carcinogen and neither are all bacteria. If you agree there can be indirect victims to crimes then I'd question what crimes a...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:55:59
As someone who avoids things that are likely to lead to cancer, it's not hard. As long as you read the actual science critically and don't just do something because media has sensationalized it. ...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:53:43
You can say I'm conditioned into believing anything. You're equally conditioned into believing what you believe. In and of itself it's not like there's a harm in learning from our surroundings if we t...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:44:06
Suppose that somebody created a realistic sex doll for the purposes of dismembering it. Would that be problematic to you at all? What if it was in the shape of a child, say? Is there no moral limit yo...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:42:09
This isn't really an argument.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:41:53
Fixed images. I removed some duplicates.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:18:10
Wait, this might be my fault. One moment...
The basic function of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:17:05
Then what was the ego comment?
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:16:39
I'm also PART of the society that makes decisions. As a government where minorities inherently have a large amount of say, there's no problem with that. Nor am I property, because no person possesses ...
The basic function of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:10:21
Hey, no need to start a personal attack over it. I'm disbelieving what you wrote there and am happy to be proven wrong.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 02:34:12
Welcome to the saturday science thread of the week, where we talk the future, technology, science and more! Today's topic is based on an article I posted on my profile feed this week. Should peop...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 02:30:37
I'm saying that "master" is an inadequate term because there are no slaves. So my question is, how can you be a slave to yourself? I don't think I have full control. Lacking control ove...
Thoughts on edeb8 so far - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 02:26:26
As I said on the feature request thing, this design is my personal attempt and I welcome better designers to offer me something, but as it stands this suggestion is currently non-constructive. Don't m...
I am back - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 02:23:22
Please guys, if you're not sure if you want to go, avoid deactivating your accounts. It's kinda a pain for me to reactivate them.
The basic function of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 02:22:12
I don't think anyone really denies these things. You and I only differ on whether these are negative or not.
Edeb8 is dead - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 15:55:18
It's ok really, so long as people can be found on both sites.
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:25:56
In some way or another, you are just electing your next master. Say you cast a vote for yourself... ? Even in a system where majority vote wins, the majority become the rulers, and the minority...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:23:59
Kinda hard if your dream job is to be, IDK, a telecommunications engineer, all the big telecoms are largely run by computer algorithms etc... I suppose it depends on your barriers to entry. More creat...
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:21:09
If you say arrangements of matter through time and space are social constructs then literally everything is. A house is one arrangement of matter. Even elementary particles are particular arrangements...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:18:32
Most die. Not mutually exclusive. I'm sure most die while also being upset about going in the first place. As in We Will Not Cease, the soldiers are the biggest supporters of the objectors. How...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:15:53
As jobs become more scarce, inequality rises. People have to work less now than ever before. At some point only the elite find work, and eventually, people won't even need to work anymore. And the pro...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:13:11
Then the state is not holding a gun to your head.
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:12:52
Otherwise we are just machines with sensors attached And in your view, the prefrontal cortex is somehow more "mechanical" than the limbic system? Humans love war. That is why thousand...
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:08:25
A railroad is designed a certain way to suit that purpose. The particular arrangement of that wood and steel is a railroad. Much like a heap of building materials is not a house, to misquote Socrates.
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:07:01
Even so the research shows that roughly half of soldiers intentionally miss their targets. Many others are attempted to be coerced into fighting and refuse. Some have been tortured and killed for not ...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:02:22
The way I see it, the rat race is created by companies. It's a function about the competing wants of managers and workers. We're also getting way off track again haha
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:00:35
Surely the simple answer there is to abolish the death penalty in your country? :P Like, you know, mine did more than a century ago.
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:59:06
And how do you ensure access to these options is equal for all?
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:58:00
Nobody's rejecting emotions, to be clear - I'm just saying people should not feel that something upsetting is acceptable just because it's part of the human experience or something. War for example, s...
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:52:19
No because a railroad is defined not by its materials but by it's purpose. Pollution is a real thing because it harms the planet, even though somebody with no knowledge of how ecology works might see ...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:50:09
If you truly oppose a rat race, then you should also be the world's biggest supporter of welfare programs. People should not be forced to keep working or face starvation, especially when we have more ...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:47:30
Humans are not defined by emotions either. Plenty of animals experience all kinds of emotions. The thing is that those myths were used to warn people against the vices displayed by the hero. Odys...
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:44:51
No because an idea is a physical connection between brain cells. That connection exists. I could probably write about 4 paragraphs about what I understood, but I'd rather hear your point. I'm pre...
No Completed Tournaments? - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:42:36
The pages of those tournaments are still there at their original links
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:33:11
Personally, of course, I have to disagree on principle. Even ideas are part of an objective reality. Are you sure you are not referring to Solipsism? Yes. You can reduce yourself to nothing but...
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:24:24
yet the individual is not to be blamed for being reduced to believing that nothing holds any significance after being through such experiences This is a little off-topic but personally I disagree...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:17:30
Society has never embraced troubled souls. This is your fantasy. Some of the earliest texts in human history stigmatized those things.
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:16:16
No it's not. That's like saying all forms of capitalism have free markets. My point is that you're reducing, in your word, "most" things to a language set, having no reality outside of ...
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 02:24:49
That would be moral nihilism, not general nihilism. Both concepts and ideas are languages. Set theory is a language in and of itself. Oh, so if society believes strongly enough that God exis...
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 02:16:53
Nihilism is the denial of a reality. You're saying almost everything in life can be reduced to language constructs. That's pretty close to full nihilism, to reduce everything to nothing.
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 01:55:03
Doesn't that sound a lot like nihilism to you?
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 01:52:25
This idea that most things are social constructs kinda implies they're not objectively "real".
Edeb8 Jeopardy! - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 01:48:32
What's Stag's best forum game idea? Tim Tams
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 01:47:46
Have you become more nihilist recently?
No Completed Tournaments? - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 01:44:59
There have been tournaments in the past BTW (2 WODC competitions), just not on the public tournament platform.
Edeb8 Jeopardy! - Posted by admin 2016-07-28 21:54:09
What is a great forum game? Outer space.
Edeb8 Jeopardy! - Posted by admin 2016-07-28 21:53:17
Welcome to the first casual Friday post! Sorry for those of you who aren't on Friday yet, although you can start the fun early if you like ;) So the rule is that everyone posts TWO things in a ro...
New initiative - themed weekdays - Posted by admin 2016-07-28 12:02:21
That sounds fun too :)
New initiative - themed weekdays - Posted by admin 2016-07-28 05:50:36
How about you do those things on Tuesdays? XD
New initiative - themed weekdays - Posted by admin 2016-07-28 03:35:04
Hi gang! Something new. Check it out: Member Monday - Mondays are the days we thank our awesome community members and give shoutouts to them. Some of the things we do on Member Mondays are thank ...
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-28 02:21:07
10 entries so far! :)
Edeb8 is dead - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 18:34:22
So Edeb8 is like America?
Edeb8 is dead - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 17:13:44
Wait, did Trump say Mexicans are just ex-Americans who got into trouble with the law one too many times?
Edeb8 is dead - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 16:43:17
Can you explain that view non-allegorically?
Edeb8 is dead - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 16:00:35
I'm sure my views on this are very familiar to people ;)
Edeb8 is dead - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 12:46:30
Sorry, you're right, I forgot to update the stats page when the counting mechanism changed. There's 438.
Edeb8 is dead - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 11:20:39
Actually there's over 1500 debates ( source: http://www.edeb8.com/stats ) ... not sure where you got your number from.
Another update - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 11:17:38
Sure you can. Anyone can make a tournament. Just go here: http://www.edeb8.com/debatetournament/new Early on, site users requested forum threads should become locked after 3 months of inactivity....
Another update - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 05:05:23
1. The social authentication system used by edeb8 - which has honestly been the same since the site was launched - was upgraded to the latest version. 2. Tournaments now support 3 different notifica...
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-24 17:59:30
Apologies. Fix'd.
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-24 12:55:35
Yip, links fixed.
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-24 12:55:19
Testing fix for link bug: http://www.edeb8.com/debatetournament/6
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-24 10:58:30
Will make a DDO post tomorrow.
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-24 10:56:47
Clickable link: http://www.edeb8.com/debatetournament/6
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-24 10:56:11
Let's get a strong showing at this year's tournament, folks! http://www.edeb8.com/debatetournament/6 This will also be the first official tournament meaning a badge and immortal fame is up f...
Captchas added - Posted by admin 2016-07-24 10:51:24
Signups and contact forms on the site, now require the correct input of a google captcha. It doesn't stop spam entirely but it might help a tiny bit and hopefully won't be too annoying. Should convinc...
What is "time to prepare"? - Posted by admin 2016-07-21 00:00:54
The rule is that CX happens between every round (ignoring reply rounds), unless otherwise specified by the format (policy debate etc). So if a debate has 4 rounds, there would be 3 rounds of CX. If th...
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 23:58:42
Who says 99% of people can't be prejudiced? It's not informal. It's very formal. Anyone familiar with Buddhism or international debate would recognize the scene. I would say almost as many p...
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 23:10:34
Don't assume your prejudices are universal. In many countries, formal debate isn't even in schools or colleges. The homepage's message used to be more clear and concise, and you complained about ...
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 17:55:41
I really don't understand why monks debating is out of place, but college students debating is not.
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 16:39:24
Maybe it didn't load correctly for you. I know your particular set up has had random issues like these before. The shots are a shot of some clouds, Buddhist monks debating in traditional Buddhist...
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 10:56:08
... ? You said there's a black box with some text right? So surely you must see that. The first line of that is set apart and bolded. That's what I mean. Does the text not change when t...
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 07:27:59
What are the text headings on the slides you can see?
What is "time to prepare"? - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 07:26:08
Before the debate, both sides can be given preparation time to think about the topic. Debaters can start drafting their first round during this time but nobody can post. It's particularly useful ...
Global Conceptual Language - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 01:44:49
Why can't you have both?
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-19 16:07:50
Dude there's 4 other slides.
Extreme political correctness - Posted by admin 2016-07-18 14:25:05
By suspending one of their workers for his belief that Hillary deserves the death penalty, they took the stance that she didn't deserve it Not sure that follows logically. to different degrees....
Extreme political correctness - Posted by admin 2016-07-18 12:52:16
A lot of Americans believe in capital punishment, so it shouldn't be bad PR. If he had said some terrible murderer should be let off without charge, I suspect the airline might have responded in a s...
Extreme political correctness - Posted by admin 2016-07-18 11:30:57
I think conservatives make these things into a scandal. With, you know, conservative lines like this: I personally find it outrageous that they might fire him for simply believing in the death pe...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-07-18 09:39:40
Novice
Extreme political correctness - Posted by admin 2016-07-18 09:39:18
I feel like it's bad PR for the airline. If it brings the airline into disrepute it could affect how many people fly with them. One of the things about modern social media is that people need to be a ...
Platonist Tournament of Philosophy Advertisement - Posted by admin 2016-07-18 05:17:08
Here's a link you can actually click on: http://www.edeb8.com/debatetournament/4/
Platonist Tournament of Philosophy Advertisement - Posted by admin 2016-07-18 05:16:32
Here's a link for anyone interested: http://www.edeb8.com/debatetournament/4/
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 13:31:48
The judging standard came about 6 months after the quality began declining. Likewise there's no correlation with the leaving of any particular member, as far as I can tell (and for the record, nzlocki...
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 12:36:39
No, people like past judgments more than current ones. Or at least rated them higher. I don't assess quality, personally, the community does.
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 03:30:13
I mean, that's the thing ... the community itself hates its OWN judgements more than it used to. Quality has not dropped so much since the standard was introduced but the trend overall is still there....
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 03:20:51
Thanks. I also want to add notifications for tournaments, private tournaments, and auto-setup tournaments with preset topics, as goals.
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 03:19:46
In general I suppose I should add in something to make it more obvious that the images/text change.
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 03:18:46
There's only one scenic background... ? Are you sure you looked at it carefully?
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 03:17:20
What we're up against is this: https://s32.postimg.org/a9tvjx5o5/jquality.png Obviously there's something to improve on there.
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 03:07:56
Which background? You did notice that it's a slideshow right?
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-07-16 16:41:14
Recently, faced with declining judging quality and with strong community support, we introduced the new judging standards system. So, how do people think the community judging standard is working...
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-16 16:26:02
Note that there will be an official edeb8 tournament every so often on this new platform, the badge for which was unveiled a while ago :D
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-16 16:25:05
So this one brings a couple of changes: Most obviously, tournaments are a thing now. Three different types of tournaments are supported with a variety of custom settings. Tournaments can be run e...
Challenge Opening Arguments - Posted by admin 2016-07-13 08:24:24
Wasn't that part of the point of profiles?
Challenge Opening Arguments - Posted by admin 2016-07-13 05:12:04
More importantly I feel like it would give a contender's advantage, don't you? Because then when you prep, you're prepping for an argument, not a resolution.
Outage - Posted by admin 2016-07-13 03:27:38
Unfortunately not right now but it might be possible to work out eventually.
Outage - Posted by admin 2016-07-13 03:18:46
Apologies to all for the short recent outage. This was to comply with edeb8's no-spam rules and requirements. Going forward it is likely some changes will be made to limit emails made by the site...
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 10:16:41
Also removed image of execution in progress. You should know better than this. If it was a movie, and it would get an R13 or above rating in NZ, then probably that's about the limit. Roughly. I u...
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 10:08:38
Right, because bathing suits are an objective standard for sexual expression.
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 10:06:43
Sorta like asking "do you like humans?" lol. Do I like that erotic dances exist? I don't really mind. I mean, I'm not really into it personally, but it's anthropological. And unlike stuff li...
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 09:59:55
And to be clear - that's not because the 1950s weren't sexualized, but because of how consciousness of sexual expression shifts over time and rituals have changed. We're keeping this website appropria...
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 09:57:05
I used to sit in on a lot of history of sexuality lectures - they came just before my marketing strategy paper for some reason - so I'm pretty confident I can defend that it is not a fact. If peo...
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 09:51:54
Wasn't the elites dude. Ample evidence including actual preserved writings, including writings by the lower classes themselves (preserved due to the copious amounts of graffiti around the place) prove...
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 09:47:14
Have you ever visited Pompeii?
Rather than complain - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 09:25:23
There's the premise that we differ on.
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 09:24:54
No different from past human sexual cultures, believe it or not. Society has means of repressing and celebrating different forms of sexual expression throughout history. Modern era sexual politics is ...
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 08:26:01
Kinda ironic given how much you've talked about why the idolization of rape is legitimate recently.
Rather than complain - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 08:24:56
It's a stable site, not an experimental one. Any given changes will be incremental just by the nature of a stable product. We're not going down the New Coke road.
Is the site being given up on? - Posted by admin 2016-07-10 14:07:05
Glad I ducked. If you have great ideas for how to achieve those things you can: a) make a suggestion & get people to vote for it b) try to convince me on your idea* c) start your own debate ...
Is the site being given up on? - Posted by admin 2016-07-10 13:53:00
I won't do anything major with the site. I'm planning on implementing a rather large new feature. *ducks before you complain*
Is the site being given up on? - Posted by admin 2016-07-10 13:18:06
No comment ... yet. But please look back on this in about uhm, 1-2 weeks and tell me again I've been complacent.
vote Wylted - Posted by admin 2016-07-09 02:42:51
Let us know how the election goes! WODC should start very shortly after this ... I was mostly waiting for this election to be over because obviously the presidency is very important to many DDO folks ...
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-06 14:29:09
States by nature diminish freedom Only in some imaginary world where all freedom is positive. Logically justified or morally justified, because this thread is about whether the state is morally...
Extrajudicial murder - good? - Posted by admin 2016-07-06 10:20:12
There is "due process" to the law.
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-06 05:12:31
So you only support majority rule with a slight minority basis as a means for checking power? I support both power being checked and that being the best way to do it. But that is not to say I would...
Extrajudicial murder - good? - Posted by admin 2016-07-06 01:59:25
He wasn't killed extra-judicially though.
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-06 01:56:38
Just want to clarify this bit here: Governments can be entirely voluntary and participatory. States cannot. Why can't I entirely voluntarily be part of a state?
Extrajudicial murder - good? - Posted by admin 2016-07-05 11:15:21
Please, go ahead and share these examples. I feel like your prior point is entirely semantic and that in effect you're not substantively arguing whether this would mean a harm accrues or not.
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-05 11:13:02
But morally you can support the rule of a minority? Marginally, yes. In fact every good democracy must have some form of minority rule to avoid a majoritarian tyranny. That does not justify the...
Extrajudicial murder - good? - Posted by admin 2016-07-05 06:39:59
Do you understand that? What's the difference? Both ways people do things outside the present law in accordance with what the president says. he is not actually saying that the laws which make ...
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-05 06:37:28
So you are okay with the minority having representation over society? I think it's a valid form of government, even if it's not the best, it's typically better than none at all. What is the val...
Extrajudicial murder - good? - Posted by admin 2016-07-04 18:35:49
Clearly you're not following me if you have to ask that question. Maybe try to think about what I'm saying before assuming I don't understand. You give the problem of lawlessness ie Mexican drug ...
Extrajudicial murder - good? - Posted by admin 2016-07-04 18:25:03
I would. Because you don't solve the problem of lawlessness by legalizing more crimes.
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-03 07:59:24
Wow it's hard when you spread things between posts. If that is your answer, then it can be simply flipped by saying that the 30% are justified to protect the 70% from harming society. Sure and...
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-03 06:51:19
you don't have a mental disability or something I don't the question is what gives the 70% the right to restrict the usage of marijuana by the 30% For the fourth time, it is to help prevent t...
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-03 06:11:04
If marijuana was made illegal, and 30% of the population actively used it, what gives the majority that voted for it to be illegal the authority to enforce a reaction? Assuming active users wanted ...
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-03 04:07:57
what is the basis for one man to rule over another man? Most people agreeing to work together. How do you justify the fact that one subsection (one specific grouping) of society is given unive...
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-03 03:33:55
should be decided by 100% general consensus among voting citizens? No. Most people agree that living in a state is nice - this is enough for a jurisdiction. What is the justification for why on...
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-03 03:12:54
1. "Let's generally agree that we should work together!" ... "OK!" 2. The point of a liberal government is to take into account as many views as possible in determining policy, b...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 19:45:29
I think if you wanted to get into terrible atheists though, I'm surprised you didn't bring up Sam Harris. XD
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 19:43:41
The "nature of God" is kinda a little unspecific though, as I pointed out before. All arguments against God, and for God for that matter, presume certain qualities of God. The only arguments...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 19:11:32
Not sure about that. Can you give a particularly egregious example of that ignorance?
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 18:24:59
Construction
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 18:24:32
He's absolutely right though. Both parties made choices which led to the rape. Raping only requires one choice, the choice to rape. Both parties did not make the choice for the rape to occur.
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 18:03:48
Watch. Your. Language. I shouldn't have to remind you several times per day. If there is no connection between the decision to rape and the prior decisions of the victim, don't blame the victim. ...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 18:00:34
Liberals are right, because male rape is really bad and there needs to be more attention on it. It's seriously under-reported too.
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 17:58:14
You're going to be raped whether you dress like a slut or not, regardless of what the rapists say. Science is pretty clear on that. Totally fair equivalency.
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 17:38:15
(note: "girl" used as an example only. Don't mean to ignore the problem of male rape also.)
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 17:37:05
So then a dress is a partial yes to you. And I have a significant problem with that. There's no logic to this, btw. Nothing to connect their choice of how to dress with the choice of somebody els...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 17:25:00
And that's exactly one step removed from a dress being a yes. The whole line of thinking is wrong ... somebody isn't even partly at fault for somebody else believing something they did implied consent...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 17:12:11
So if a choice is made to dress sluttily, and on that basis somebody rapes someone, would you consider the slutty dresser at partial fault for the rape because of their decision to dress the way they ...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 17:09:53
Bus
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 16:19:12
What do you mean, "allowed to happen"? I don't see them choosing to get raped - somebody else made that choice. They didn't allow that choice, but it wasn't their choice to make. Somebody el...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 16:07:12
How can somebody have partial fault for a decision they didn't make? You haven't really shown what the causal link is between "them having made an arbitrary choice at some arbitrary point in the ...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 15:44:01
See? So why wouldn't you act the same with a rape victim? Your position isn't held by logic. You're just rephrasing the position. For it to be logic you need more than a conclusion, you need to s...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 15:21:23
That's not logic, BTW, that's just you wrapping up the ideology of psychopathy in slightly different words and accusing me of not responding to it.
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 15:20:41
Meh, you went to an ex bullying victim about 30 minutes ago and blamed them. Don't see why you wouldn't do it to a rape victim. Liability produces responsibility, and responsibility makes one lia...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 15:10:22
Rape victims certainly don't want to be blamed for being raped. It's not "normal" to attack somebody for something they didn't do. Please point out an actual basis that in no way relies...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 15:01:17
Sociopaths at least know that they *should* empathize with others. You're quite insistent that the only logical thing to do, when somebody is raped, is to give them a cold shoulder at best. The a...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 14:47:30
Heck, I hope that if somebody robs your house, you won't blame the robber, but blame yourself for having inadequate locks or something. Of course you might, but the robbery is still the robbers respon...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 14:45:03
See, I feel this is ultimately where we differ. You have no empathy for others. There's a word for that condition. Psychopathy.
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 14:24:45
That's like a fairtax argument. Sometimes "equal" means "equal RELATIVE to your current unequal position". Doesn't make them lesser beings just as poor people are not lesser beings...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 14:23:13
Let me stop you just at the first bit because I think the premise needs to be addressed before we can continue the conversation. Specifically, that victim blaming should be embraced. There's a bi...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 05:45:33
Pencil
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 05:34:47
I wouldn't call them ignorant, though Dawkins obviously doesn't go into the philosophy too deeply being from another field. Both generally write for a wider audience. Maybe arrogant and conceited thou...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:42:13
In some ways I'd contest that. There may be psycho or physiological reasons for people not being able to stop a rape. Not sure Aristotle's conception of democracy is necessarily the most relevant...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:38:50
Infinite, as I say, makes no sense attached to something physical. It creates all sorts of mathematical issues.
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:31:51
constitution
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:30:54
Putting aside the physics - it's the evidence that troubles me. In that I see strong textual evidence that it's of a fictional genre.
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:28:51
As I've said before, there's two basic kinds of logic that apply here. Inductively God makes no logical sense because God cannot be observed. Deductively it depends on how you define "God&...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:22:14
So in your view is logic necessary also? Then that has an inherent contradiction with the prime mover and the omnipotence point as well. Of course, as I've said and you've acknowleged, these argu...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:17:53
Well, I believe Christianity is impossible because 1) God makes no logical sense to me, and 2) Jesus' resurrection seems highly implausible even if God did exist.
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:16:12
I don't know it need be oppression. In NZ we have a voting system, for example, that requires both minority and majority interests to be taken into account when determining parliament. There are ...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 03:46:25
But if logic is part of our reality, and God is not bounded by any of the rules of our reality, then surely God is not bounded by logic? Isn't that your implication? That basically excludes deduction ...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 03:30:40
I gain a lot of benefits from not following a religion, most notably freedom from the nagging feeling that I cannot reconcile those beliefs with the facts. Followers of Pythagoras kept the proof ...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 03:28:07
I think it boils down to this: Such a God would be beyond our understanding, so it makes sense that we can't see how it is possible. So in other words you deny that such a God is defined by...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 03:25:40
I personally know somebody who was raped despite not drinking, not staying alone with any individual (willingly anyway) while carrying a knife. And this person is American. Just saying.
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 03:24:06
For what it's worth, I'm sick of this victim-blaming. I know first hand what it's like, being told I deserved to be bullied in school because I came from a poor family, for example. It's not fun and d...
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 03:15:07
Watch. Your. Language. You're lucky this wasn't reported. You have a real problem with attitude and I think I speak for most people when I say that these kinds of sustained personal attacks ...
Team Debate - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 21:28:05
1) This generates a small message at the top 2) As they say in computer science, t's not a bug, it's a feature. You need to check a box if you want this - I can only presume the debate was set up co...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 20:48:19
Sure but you cannot believe in God and not follow a religion, at least as I understand it. It is possible one might describe my ideas as a form of naturalism, without me necessarily subscribing to the...
Team Debate - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 20:44:53
Will look into this soon and get back to you.
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 19:20:16
It's being worked on. Sorry!
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 19:17:24
The definition is fine, albeit confusingly rendered in a passive sentence. Atheism implies a negative belief, which is indeed different from the complete absence of a belief. I would consider Go...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 17:59:38
It's sorta like saying you haven't seen Larstonville, so by my logic it doesn't exist. Of course it doesn't and that's why I haven't seen it - but then again, it might and I am yet to see it. The defa...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 17:57:51
If I had no other sources of evidence, I would not believe in its existence. Seeing is not all there is to believing - sight is only one sense, and it's not foolproof.
Duplicate Posts - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 17:29:06
This is caused by people resubmitting a post through their browser, often unintentionally by refreshing a page. The problem is that sometimes duplicate posts are non-consecutive. Otherwise it's fairly...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 17:07:28
I don't believe in God, therefore I deny it. A believer might still be skeptical, and I'm a skeptical disbeliever. If you call what I've said so far against God to be "no evidence", tha...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 16:14:47
Are you saying you can't both be skeptical and disbelieve in something?
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 13:21:19
Opposite. Absence of evidence is evidence of absence. Put it this way - if I drew 5 cards from a deck of playing cards and they were all red, would you assume I had 50/50 black and red cards? I...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 13:18:01
Seeing is not the only form of evidence though, is it? I certainly believed in God when somebody told me about Him, then disbelieved when I thought a bit more about it. Being told about it is evi...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 13:11:19
"Telling me" is an assertion. I take assertions for what evidence they are, which can hardly be described as strong. I could assert right now that you have a house on the north pole and ride...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 13:05:49
@Stag AND I just had to remove the comment for the third time. As I say, be careful.
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 13:01:29
@Stag removed doubled comment, again. Be careful with refreshing.
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 12:57:17
Calling me an idiot repeatedly is non-constructive. You should learn more intelligent ways of dealing with arguments. Regardless of whether arguments raised by somebody are poor, that is not grounds f...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 12:52:43
CS Lewis actually used precisely that example, as an aside. In Mere Christianity he said that New York's existence was for him largely premised on faith, and that therefore, empiricism should not be t...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 12:49:22
Again, do you understand the raven paradox? If not, don't talk about things YOU don't understand. So do you believe Einstein was a physicist or a meta-physicist when he came up with the theory of...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 12:39:42
@Stag removed doubled comment (presumably accidental)
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 12:34:59
It's not a fallacy. That's how empiricism works. Hence the raven paradox with how observing non-black non-ravens increase the odds that all ravens are black. Seems illogical until you think about it. ...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 12:26:41
I wish you'd reply in all one post. Makes it easier for me. Happy to discuss theories, doesn't mean I'll accept them without evidence. Just because you disbelieve something doesn't mean you shoul...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 12:04:20
Sure you can disbelieve in economics. You'd be empirically wrong because we can prove money has social consequences (which is what economics studies) but you could still disbelieve in it.
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 10:33:37
Recently I've been feeling like agnosticism makes less and less sense to me as a label. My reflection is the very fact that there is a label implies an active opinion. For what it's worth, I thin...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 10:28:18
Yes I do, and I was using God as a mere example. I don't believe in any metaphysics.
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 05:18:41
Well, I consider myself to be an atheist for what it is worth. I'd consider a religion to be a positive metaphysical belief system. Since atheism is a negative belief (ie a denial of a belief) it...
Satan or God? - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 13:33:37
I think the idea in the Bible is that Satan has no power over people who make the choice to be with God. Again I'd refer to Job on that.
Satan or God? - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 13:31:43
As I mentioned, pride and envy are certainly key themes of the story. But I don't see a direct Biblical reference for Satan being in denial. I addressed the Jesus narrative already but I'm happy to go...
Satan or God? - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 12:09:13
Not sure here. A few things come to mind, assuming we accept Lucifer = the devil (which I understand is something of a debate, as there are other interpretations also - personally I think Lucifer is b...
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 05:52:07
I feel like you're a bit misinformed about your statistics there. And you're really stretching verses with your own interpretation.
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 05:30:14
Again, you're saying that, not God. So why aren't you open to changing your mind on it?
Human Nature - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 05:29:44
It's not about states of being. A depressed person is literally incapable of escaping a state of being that is unhappy. Often depressed people, as opposed to merely sad people, are confused about why ...
Human Nature - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 05:14:52
Yes, in that it is possible to become depressed without choosing to. Depression is abnormal and should be cured. Sadness, even extreme tragedy, on the other hand, is totally normal. Lots of peopl...
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 05:08:22
But nowhere does the bible say that having one perversion means you have them all. That is clearly extrabiblical.
Human Nature - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 05:07:12
You don't know how journals work. Who peer-reviewed that book? And what actual neuroscientific credentials does the writer have? You probably only believe this because it fits your worldview. ...
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:53:43
Even if that were valid, I don't remember the bit where God said "And thou shalt treat all homosexuals as pedophiles, for they are so".
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:46:51
It's this "don't care what anybody says" attitude that worries me about some people.
Human Nature - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:45:39
Every scientific paper published in a reputable journal in the last 50ish years would disagree with you there.
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:31:53
No. Homosexuality = attracted to same sex. Homosexuals as well as heterosexuals (and bisexuals etc) may be pedophiles. There's no correlation.
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:27:13
I would. There are better ways of dealing with those people. Heck, I wouldn't even want to see the shooter put to death. People make light of death more tragically than anything else.
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:25:52
A pedophile is someone who sexually molests children. No, that's a child molester. A pedophile is somebody sexually attracted to children. Like, just because you're attracted to dogs, say, doesn't...
Human Nature - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:24:12
It is a chemical inbalance, and it makes a difference to how it is treated.
Human Nature - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:04:17
There's a lot of truth to this as brains as surprisingly malleable at a young age, but there are two factors I think you're missing. First, brains start developing in the womb, before birth. If a...
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 03:59:42
Obviously I consider it a tragedy, although I think I've made my views on the topic clear already.
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-06-26 09:15:13
... which isn't true of any of the members involved in the decision. I make major decisions too. Feature updates are definitely in the works that, and I hope I'm not being too cryptic in saying t...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-06-25 14:58:31
cuddles
Favorite Music - Posted by admin 2016-06-25 09:50:14
It's been a long time since I released anything publicly. Certainly my most recent piece that I did let out, which was an orchestral cover for a work by another artist, got a lot more praise than any ...
Favorite Music - Posted by admin 2016-06-25 09:10:36
For what it's worth, I like: Melodic Metal (Dragonforce, Amaranthe etc) Epic classical / "trailer music" (Two Steps From Hell, Audiomachine etc) Other random stuff (ie Te Vaka, Owl ...
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-23 07:34:01
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What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-23 07:33:37
Doesn't sound any more ludicrous to me than half of what Christians believe.
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-23 05:49:36
Again, legendary development. Nietzsche did a fair job of pointing out some of the absurdity in the Anti-Christ but there's a lot more to it than scripture, obviously. The fact it permeates scrip...
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-23 05:25:46
Because of the degree of legendary development being totally insane, even within the scriptures. No other church like it. It's so malleable in its beliefs. The only book in the Bible that I belie...
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-23 04:32:25
Personally I think Christianity is the strangest.
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-23 01:06:54
I can never choose between debates lol
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-23 01:06:32
Nope
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-21 02:13:23
Nope, not at all.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-21 01:35:16
Personally I see a world that is flourishing. Assistance in overcoming is a form of protection.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 14:14:11
Sure you resent it, doesn't mean it would collapse. Sometimes the support you give others can help them overcome hardship.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 14:01:16
What I advocate has not been tried. I believe it is compassionate to protect people from hardship.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:53:02
None of that means it need be self-destructive.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:44:19
Suicide rate is still much lower than death tolls in wars of old though.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:40:35
It won't but up to you.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:35:41
Not sure why it need be self-destructive.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:30:02
*eye roll*
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:27:37
An individual could, but not everyone could. Somebody is bound to steal something from someone someday.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:18:07
As somebody who has recently destroyed a wasp hive (which was not easy) I can confirm killing the queen did not destroy all the wasps.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:17:08
Hierarchy of needs. Socialization is a very universal one. What you see as freedom I sometimes see as surrender. The liberty to steal, for example, can hardly be viewed as compatible with the fre...
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:01:47
It's almost comical how you misunderstand the randomest of stuff sometimes. In this case, bees. No, killing a queen does not destroy the hive. A hive can, in almost every case, raise a new one quickly...
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 12:46:13
Now how is that constructive dialogue? A claim that I would contest something is not what I'd call weaseling. That would be if I avoided contesting it despite saying I would. I don't remember ever doi...
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 12:25:05
There's a big difference between leaving something uncontested and letting it be conceded. I see plenty of things day to day that I disagree with. For example, I don't believe Coca-cola is the best ta...
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 09:48:31
I'd contest that.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 09:41:35
Would that argument hold any water if you replaced hive with social?
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 09:23:54
As per usual, depends on how you define freedom. I believe the only way to balance negative and positive freedoms is through equality legislation. Equality has always been a central tenant of liberali...
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 04:44:32
Hence why I said true. Libertarians hijacked a lot of titles in the 20s.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 04:26:32
I don't think that's totally fair either. I consider myself to be a true classical liberal. Freedom & equality all the way.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 04:19:37
I'd be closest to liberal. I take a lot of ideas from the Greens and others though.
Priest of Swag - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 03:57:56
Feel free to at tag me for stuff like this. I'll get around to it. This does make sense.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 03:54:23
I'm more opposed to the armed forces than Bernie. Unlike Bernie, I am a pacifist. I oppose about half of the present US constitution. Not saying I blame anyone for upholding it, but there's plent...
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-18 04:31:41
Perhaps, I was talking on average based largely on what gets filtered down through the media.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-18 04:03:41
Maybe 75%. American Liberals are quite moderate to say the least by global standards. Some examples of differences I'd have with most of those: - I'm somewhat more opposed to the armed forces - I ...
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-18 03:48:25
Pretty much - I take inspiration from many liberal groups but I don't fit neatly into any of them.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-18 03:34:15
Liberal, as you know, which I define as being a belief in balanced freedom with equality. And I take little bits that I like from different subcategories of liberalism.
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-18 03:30:08
Yip
Policy Debates - Posted by admin 2016-06-18 03:28:10
I can. Might be worth checking out MUNA Intl. My friend Bowen Shi I believe helped establish their platform for MUNA outside of the normal qualifying circuit. One thing that sets MUN apart from other ...
Policy Debates - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 23:13:15
Parliamentary, despite the name, is not a roleplay format. We have good reasons for not prioritizing those two, including: - the fact they don't work well with our existing platform - the f...
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 23:10:42
My profile count is inaccurate due to testing debates that were subsequently removed from the database entirely.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 12:55:52
Your position is that violence is necessary for peace. It is violence vs peace IF there is an acceptance that violence is not necessary for peace. This discussion is therefore on the necessity of viol...
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 10:07:29
Any cool ideas?
Policy Debates - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 07:49:39
You can do policy debates on the site now. Here's the format: Aff - 8000 chars Cross-Examination Neg - 8000 chars Cross-Examination Aff - 8000 chars Cross-Examination Neg - 8000 chars...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 07:42:28
This is all in spite of the fact that every totalitarian and oppressive government has arisen through violence, and almost every liberal change in human history has been non-violent. Genocides etc can...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 06:22:28
Called it. Told you you're not interested in it because it's a what if. If the quakers hadn't arisen the outcome of the war would have been different, but you don't want to engage with that and put it...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 06:00:37
My point is this - if what ifs are unacceptable, your only acceptable standard of morality is whatever you believe people before you have correctly executed. It's like the ultimate unimaginative conse...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 05:57:41
You're saying I admit it anytime you assert something. Quote me the passage where I admitted it. I'll give you one, the English Civil War opposing an oppressive government was ended by the Quaker...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 05:45:46
For what it's worth - plenty, but you wouldn't accept them as successes because you have a skewed, short-term view of success. Plenty of genocides never happened because of peace movements but since y...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 05:37:22
At this point I'm fairly convinced you're not saying anything substantive anymore. You're just repeating that my position is evil or idiotic, and that yours is necessary. You'd fit right in with ...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 04:00:36
You say circumstances matter. Don't outcomes matter too? Hitler justified his policy of killing Jews because, and I quote, "we are at war." It was a circumstance and to him, killing seemed a...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-16 12:06:17
He should not use it because then he'd be a killer. Killing is immoral for the psychopath, so should it also be immoral for the victim. Calling the alternative a "mental case" is hardly co...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-16 07:30:41
Mankind has no such inclination. Do not blame mankind as a whole for the violent actions of a few. The world is certainly more peaceful when people are not killing each other than when they are. ...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-16 06:31:49
And you didn't listen that: 1) "supporting the fight" need not be violent, and 2) there is no need for a right When I look at history, I see violence has destroyed more people than ...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-16 06:13:58
I would not support violence used by the state. I think states should be less violent and my own votes reflect that. This does not mean states have no right to exist. As you know I strongly oppos...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-16 06:12:14
What have you done to earn the English language? Have you personally put in all the effort of thousands of generations to evolve complex language constructs like verbs or nouns? Or were you just taugh...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-16 05:49:49
Most of what I support can also be connected somehow to slavery, but that does not logically mean you need slavery.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-16 05:48:11
You don't need to earn peace. You have peace by default by simply not being violent. The fight for a better future need not be violent. Doing nothing IS absolutely non violent, although ther...
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 08:31:11
Fun fact. I just did a check on a bunch of the IP addresses that have been caught under this, and ALL of them I checked resolved to the city of Nellore, just above Chennai, in India. There must be one...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:52:55
So you presume.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:39:56
This is a Hollywood narrative. Nobody "has to" fight back by killing people. As I say, it's the last resort of those without the imagination to understand that there are other ways.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:26:52
I should say, you know who really lives and dies a naive idiot in my view? Suicide bombers. They're the perfect example of somebody who lives and dies a naive idiot.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:25:35
So you say. If that's your worldview, well, live by the sword, die by the sword. I'd prefer to live in peace. What they accomplished was the perpetuation of a much greater idea, that being, that nonvi...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:22:03
Sure but cooperate with whom? With an oppressive state? No thanks.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:21:00
I don't believe you need to resort to immoral behavior just because others do. There are many means of achieving causes and killing is not a good one. The reason life or death situations like tha...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:03:16
Since when do you have to follow the rules?
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:02:51
You don't know that. All I said was, lots of people have assumed such movements wouldn't, when in reality they accomplished that and much more. People are more war-averse than at any other point in hu...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:00:55
Insofar as soldiers kill people, you either have to accept that killing people is moral, or that soldiering is immoral. "Tool" is a nice way to dress up that you are killing people for your ...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 03:42:27
Sure, until somebody overpowers you. OR you could just not run a state by force, but by cooperation. Take your pick.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 03:40:10
Well some people can personally feel empathy for other people. It's sociopathic to be so self-absorbed as to never consider what impact your actions have on other people. Firearms do not protect ...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 03:19:00
Common misconception. The reality is that violence actually makes other people more violent, not less as many would assume. In many parts of the world it's a self-perpetuating culture.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 03:07:39
I oppose all violence because it's hurtful towards other people. I don't believe that it is sensible to end suffering through causing more suffering. I do not believe there are any scenarios wher...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 02:52:09
For what it's worth, I oppose violence towards other human beings, with the exception of the unborn (who I do not consider human). People are terrorists because they get sufficiently frustrated w...
Resolutions - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 00:01:46
That's called "squirreling" and has never been acceptable. Aff is said to have a "semi-divine right of definition" in debating parlance, meaning they can define the topic so long a...
Universal Healthcare Coverage for Trans - Posted by admin 2016-06-14 13:33:52
I'm surprised they're awake at this hour lol.
Universal Healthcare Coverage for Trans - Posted by admin 2016-06-14 04:19:17
The more usual therapy is used for, for example, drug addict recovery etc. The local governments fund organizations like anti-violence groups and stuff too. Some areas have specialized youth therapy o...
Universal Healthcare Coverage for Trans - Posted by admin 2016-06-14 04:17:28
In general hospitals and stuff fund mental health, including therapy, for just about any reason. Sometimes there's a waiting list. It very much depends. In New Zealand for example, if you have an...
Universal Healthcare Coverage for Trans - Posted by admin 2016-06-14 03:56:23
Basically no if it is considered by doctors to be elective. Plastic surgery isn't usually covered either. There are exceptions if doctors deem it non-elective. For example plastic surgery would probab...
Universal Healthcare Coverage for Trans - Posted by admin 2016-06-14 03:39:13
Universal coverage does not typically extend to any sort of elective surgery.
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-06-09 05:03:38
I don't think she wants to change anything. Everytime she speaks she mostly praises Obama to high heavens, says she'll follow and expand what he's done, and repeat some typical Democrat party lines.
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-06-09 04:57:24
I doubt you could name me one thing Clinton actually wants to change about the current government policy. Absolutely the epitome of establishment politics. Trump will win against her easily, I'm ...
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-06-09 04:39:30
Hillary Clinton absolutely wants to keep the status quo. She's about as conservative as they come with all the things she wants to conserve. Populist = doing things not motivated by any fixed ide...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 17:32:34
Some people have too much time on their hands... :
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 03:58:31
Wait, so you think left and right are economic positions? Because there's a big difference between economic and political philosophy. In a classical sense many anarchist thinkers have certainly b...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 03:40:45
Define "basic". My understanding here would be that the basic type is "abolishing government" since it is common to all, and then the more complex types would be the ones that buil...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 03:36:23
Certainly that's one type of anarchism, but it isn't the only type. Anyone who wants to abolish government for any reason is nowadays called an anarchist.
True perspectives - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 02:54:24
But it does not follow from those premises that the world revolves around you. Rather it follows that your observations of the world revolve around you. Big difference. So let me be clear then: ...
Treatment of mental health in the western world - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 02:43:39
In NZ doctors are probably considerably less afraid of getting sued. If anything I think there's a strong culture of "she'll be right" here. Although there is still a stigma against mental i...
Treatment of mental health in the western world - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 02:28:40
Depends on the doctor. Mine's pretty good. This wasn't different mental processes, this was people who literally had chunks of their brain missing. Either through some tragic accident or a birth ...
Treatment of mental health in the western world - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 01:03:32
So, I think really the issue is that people are under or over diagnosed. I agree with your thoughts to this extent: I strongly believe much of society is over-medicated. That having been said, I ...
True perspectives - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 00:49:31
Subjective morality has nothing to do with it (indeed morality is subjective IMHO). Morality might well be subjective but that doesn't mean a moral viewpoint cannot be excluded. There are indeed cultu...
True perspectives - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 00:47:25
Then please, go ahead and falsify it. A claim like "you are the only person who exists, everything you see is simulated, and actually the world was just created 1 second ago with an appearance of...
U.S. National Language - Posted by admin 2016-06-04 14:23:01
This was somewhat enunciated in the article you linked also: State sovereign immunity does not extend to cases where a plaintiff alleges the state's action is in violation of the federal or state co...
U.S. National Language - Posted by admin 2016-06-04 14:21:25
Sovereign immunity does not override the constitution though, does it? The supreme court has occasionally struck down rights that the federal government has claimed even though they are not among the ...
True perspectives - Posted by admin 2016-06-04 12:45:47
In my previous reply I mentioned 2 discrete philosophical refutations taken from different positions btw, although I must emphasize again that this is probably the worst context you could have set it ...
U.S. National Language - Posted by admin 2016-06-04 01:15:38
I don't remember that being in the constitution. I bet there'd be a lawsuit over it.
U.S. National Language - Posted by admin 2016-06-04 01:08:37
But how is it specifically delegated to the federal government?
U.S. National Language - Posted by admin 2016-06-04 00:26:29
Isn't this a states' rights issue too?
Update - Posted by admin 2016-06-03 16:00:42
Can I have reports of these problems/bugs? Will look into that team thing soon.
Update - Posted by admin 2016-06-03 03:34:16
NEW: Team selection The most requested feature of all time is here! If you are in multiple teams, it is now possible to select a team to use when joining a debate. If creating a debate, this is...
Edeb8 FAQ - Posted by admin 2016-06-03 01:50:15
Fair point.
Edeb8 FAQ - Posted by admin 2016-06-03 01:38:15
That's more or less the point long-term, I just felt like it would be good to hit the ground running.
Edeb8 FAQ - Posted by admin 2016-06-03 01:34:07
How many times have you heard somebody ask, for example "why can't I change my profile picture?"
Edeb8 FAQ - Posted by admin 2016-06-02 21:17:10
What sort of things get frequently asked around here? If you're a newer member, what would be useful for you in an FAQ?
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-06-02 10:20:11
The most likely thing is that your connection was interrupted for some reason during the submission. I can't rule out a programming issue without the full post but I doubt it somewhat if it was just o...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-06-02 09:43:05
So what did it say?
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-06-02 04:39:15
Yip, exactly. Stag found a way to basically make your own account insecure if you do something very weird. I'm working on a fix.
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-06-02 04:37:19
Try to use some weird formatting or something? A bit hard without knowing how the rest of the post was meant to go.
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-06-01 07:11:55
I already do. They each had a long warning period and chose not to respond in that time either, despite being online.
True perspectives - Posted by admin 2016-06-01 07:10:48
Just going to word this a little carefully. It's not that I don't know why it is false - it is that I don't know why he believes it is true. Often these things are rooted in a deeper psychological iss...
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-06-01 06:57:57
If they simply explained that to me, all would be fine.
True perspectives - Posted by admin 2016-06-01 06:50:02
From an intellectual standpoint rape is a sexual expression of control/power. Him saying he wants more rape culture means he wants more people to exercise power over each other, so he can feel he cont...
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-06-01 06:48:12
"They" (if they are several) are aware that the reason is suspected multiaccounting, and also that they can easily contact me to get "their" accounts back. Broadly the system ...
True perspectives - Posted by admin 2016-06-01 06:34:58
I'd give him the address and phone number of the nearest counselling professional.
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-06-01 06:33:33
Multiaccounting. I can't reveal the exact internal data the system uses but they can easily get their accounts back by just talking to me, regardless of whether the system was right or not. So far I h...
Re-evaluating the feedback point - Posted by admin 2016-05-31 15:19:02
People often check it after threads are made. I'm glad you did :)
Re-evaluating the feedback point - Posted by admin 2016-05-31 14:49:27
The aim is to get poor judges who might not be so familiar with the judging process up to speed with what is required. Starting out with learning how to choose a winner, then learning how to do a good...
Re-evaluating the feedback point - Posted by admin 2016-05-31 13:55:00
The reason it exists is to encourage judges to leave helpful feedback. Can you think of a better incentive?
Likelihood of an American Civil War - Posted by admin 2016-05-31 02:28:11
The biggest thing holding the country together is common sense. An armed insurrection works to nobody's interest. Don't put any stock in what armed forces train for. They also had a very expensiv...
Likelihood of an American Civil War - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 23:56:01
I am among the group who laughs at this
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 09:17:47
Again, doesn't follow. It's based on the same faulty premise, and besides which, being mental is totally different from being wrong.
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 09:15:27
I try to address the key points of clash. It's good debate practice to pre-empt what a judge would consider the most important points in a debate. If you respond to every point, you run out of time. F...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 09:10:20
My arguments are rooted in the very opposite of establishment - I don't think a definition can be established. People identify with being a triangle for their gender and nothing in your argument suppo...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 09:01:13
I don't believe, if you take an average, there are any significant outliers. For example, Shakespeare may have written prose but it is society that has made it popular. Everyone who has read Shakespea...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 08:50:35
And your definition of identity was not exclusive with my definition of gender identity. Gender can still be different. As an aside, a definition is a conjecture, as is all language. We use syste...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 08:42:13
Can you imagine a world in which somebody wants to work but can't get a job? I think it is more significant than any individual contribution will ever be. Nobody has contributed more individually...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 08:38:32
Your arguments to date are: 1. If you think differently you're mental (to which I said, this does not follow) 2. It is baseless (to which I said, that's the whole point, it is undefined) You ...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 08:35:43
But you can't work without a job. I don't think it's unfeasible. I am answering the question. The answer is that everyone makes an individual contribution to social contributions. You just aren't...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 08:24:52
There isn't a new definition, they're not redefining anything. You can't redefine something undefined. Gender identity is personal, gender is factual. I'm pretty convinced at this point that 100%...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 08:19:42
Suppose that somebody can't engage in work because they have no capital and no job? I don't know that it is far from the topic, you asked: What are you actually out doing to better life for the...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 05:24:34
But that assumes that there IS a definition, which you first need to justify. A definition is a limit by definition. If expanding gender is troublesome, logically limiting it must be troublesome als...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 05:12:48
Then maybe you come from a position of privilege. I'm bringing them up because personal reflections regarding the impact of private lives are socially constructed. To assess our social impact and...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 07:40:15
I don't have a definition at all. I don't see why it matters in the slightest. Any attempt to define or limit gender is logically just as stupid as attempts to expand it, so I'm happy with gender iden...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 07:38:05
So you believe - I believe poor people are often exploited by a system. I can certainly answer all those questions for myself. I feel like the sort of people who get upset about those things have...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 06:41:16
There is equally little substantive about your notion that there is only one correct answer. It's based entirely on your definitions of male and female identity.
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 06:40:07
A lot of people are still poor, but the whole effort of society is to make things easier for the next generation. As a result it's natural each subsequent generation will seem a bit more conceited. In...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 06:24:23
They can figure it out, they just come to a different answer to your one.
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 06:23:08
Oh, and which generation was this? Because sex, money and popularity have always been popular with youth last I checked. In fairness: 1. Most of the founding fathers were hardly youth at the ti...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 06:11:29
Do you think gay marriage advocates are that (watch the language) because they worried about being identified as "married" as opposed to being in a civil union or something?
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 06:10:27
Female but not feminine. And I think that's an important distinction, because femininity/masculinity has little to do with gender identity and IS entirely based on those stereotypes that you hate. Gen...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 06:06:46
Certainly not one that hasn't always existed. There's nothing modern about it. Kids have always been apathetic. Personally I don't mind because society as a whole progresses. Most people today li...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:57:00
Spoken like Plato himself.
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:56:09
Finding gender and finding gender identity are as different as finding sex and sexual identity. Gender is encoded in DNA, gender identity is not (so far as we know - the same question is also asked of...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:51:58
No I don't. You just perfectly explained natural rights - things you do because you can do them. Much of property law is based on the notion that people can claim property, which was once believed to ...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:18:39
Yum
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:18:19
So to you, the ability to have kids is basically what makes a woman female?
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:16:55
So do you believe gender identity is encoded in DNA? Funny that because people once said sexuality was encoded there too. It's not a strawman because the argument is the same under another title....
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:12:12
If you don't believe you have rights then you have no grounds to oppose the government doing what they want to you - you have no right to object. If you don't then you cannot expect the protectio...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:08:35
(still part of the waterslide - I never said it was in the tunnel bit)
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:07:24
Yeah but the aim of the game is to describe it in just one word :P Spoon.
Why I Don't Comment Often - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:06:47
I'll admit inconsistent but not hypocritical. The reason I'm inconsistent is that I strongly believe that rules should be interpreted as to their purpose more than their letter, and strict rubrics the...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:04:21
It never changed, they were just never male to begin with. Having male genitalia at birth is not the same as being male. They are in the same boat. Again, 20 years ago, people were laughing at ga...
Why I Don't Comment Often - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:00:35
At this point playing any sort of games about who's a worse offender or something is childish, so let's not get into that. It's about being constructive.
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 04:58:53
Too lazy to find your own thrills, huh? It's happened a few times in Germany in the last few years but I couldn't find the actual rape one. This was close to it though: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 04:55:01
Says the person who wants bathroom orgies to clearly be an important part of growing up. Gender is not merely physical appearance. The same arguments launched today against transgenders were laun...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 04:51:46
Governments are made up of collections of people. If people have rights and they cede them to a government, then clearly governments have rights. Personal attacks do not improve the quality of your ar...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 04:43:48
That's 3 words Ruler
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 04:42:56
Okay, couple things. If you want schools to be about anything except learning, I say what's the point of going to school? Society makes teenagers go to school for a reason, and while I know you h...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 04:36:36
The latter would be sexual assault. This was rape.
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 00:32:28
Then they have 24 hours to appeal to me as usual. Or, after banning, they can still email me.
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-28 15:03:03
I guess that's the difference between you and I - I don't think being physically near a naked person (usually one is not fully undressed on a toilet but IDK what your conventions might be) implies any...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-28 14:30:34
Just going to throw this out there - has America adopted cubicles yet, or do you all sit around a wide long-drop like they do in China or Japan? Because I was under the impression that just because yo...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-28 14:02:19
No, it's there because some people actually got raped inside waterslides. Predators look for any opportunity they can get. And let's face it, segregated bathrooms aren't even that strong a protection....
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-05-28 13:54:15
Since the multi-account proactive system has been working pretty well, I've added in a simple check for spam accounts. Immediately the system identified about 50 accounts which do appear, on a manual ...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-28 13:20:30
I don't buy that argument any more than Germany having separate sliding times now for girls and boys on waterslides because apparently it's a breeding ground for rapists. I use a multigender bathroom ...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-28 12:47:05
I don't accept that but I still don't think it matters. Regardless of whether trans people exist or not, you can still share a bathroom with the opposite gender, I mean, who really cares? What's the h...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-28 10:46:18
An end to bathroom gender segregation in schools etc? Honestly I don't see what the big deal is. Either way, segregated or not, it's perfectly fine. All the issues I've heard around this topic so...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-27 10:44:07
Swing
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-27 03:55:44
Shiny
Why I Don't Comment Often - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 13:19:12
I think that's reasonable to an extent. Sometimes I've found it kinda hard to judge stuff so maybe a moderation rubric could be worked out. Just let me finish the community judging thing first th...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 05:45:13
Yours only because a system of rights exists. That's a socially defined function.
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 05:39:23
Sure, if you choose to exit from or not participate in the society, you have to surrender the advantages of that society, like keeping your private property. Still makes sense to me. Why should the go...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 05:33:27
I don't think governments do either. Society as a whole willingly gives up the money.
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 05:28:30
Control the money, control the people. Economics is a social science after all. If a government were to hypothetically destroy all guns, they'd ensure the freedom from getting shot in the face wi...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 05:11:30
So a co-op doesn't control money? If so, how do you think they pay for public goods?
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 05:08:09
They govern expenditure. And a concept can have a real world corollary. Something like "protection against people shooting you" is both a concept and an implied activity.
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 04:54:54
I think it is, and you need to watch your language. Saying "s**t" in every second post is not acceptable. The reason I think so is that most of your other points are directly derived fr...
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 04:45:34
You could make a new thread. Just saying. If you want to have a go at liberalism you really don't need to derail a free speech discussion to do so.
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 04:29:22
I think this is the crux of your point. Personally I think there's a greater diversity of opinion than ever before, because people are more informed thanks to the internet and such. Social order need ...
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 04:24:52
You do have a habit of repeating material as if it will bring anything. We're talking at cross purposes. You're claiming governments are bad. My claim is that government == self determination of ...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:59:59
Anarchy is possible but it's not too fun. People need to be able to collectively set rules to govern norms of behavior. In most cases, this leads to the provision of public goods, which cannot happen ...
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:57:16
But some limitations are prosocial, some are antisocial. As I explained, the best interests of society is what it may be derived from. No, I believe in social self-determination over and above in...
Jump in Debates - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:53:44
If the thread's not for me that kinda inherently shuts me out. If anyone I'd think I was the biggest stakeholder. For what it's worth I've discussed your opinions at length before. Your first ide...
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:46:51
Because limitations on free speech are justified as a principle. That's what a principle is. I justify society regulating itself because I believe in self-determination by society. There you go.
Jump in Debates - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:44:18
And you'd be wrong, but those other people would still need to go through that feature request process. Trying to shut me out of the conversation for mentioning that is disingenuous.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:41:26
Sure, if a dictatorship was the government, I'd want them policing the internet. If you look back to the OP though, the OP's only two options were no policing, and democratic policing. Between those o...
Jump in Debates - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:40:13
Then what was it for?
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:38:28
There's a preview button for that, as well as a feature request page.
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:37:28
Sure, and in general, I would have respected that quality in him. Current US presidential candidates generally seem to lack it.
Jump in Debates - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:35:47
Your options are to make a feature request, or to make your own site. Simple. Appealing to me has no weight anymore.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:33:09
The second thing is procedure. A dictatorship would function on the same principle of internet policing, as would any other form of government. It's not relevant to this thread to question what form o...
Jump in Debates - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:24:47
Sure, and there have been rare occasions where I've found such material, but the complaint is almost always a lack of users, not an overabundance of features. In every case where you've made this clai...
Jump in Debates - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:14:11
I feel like the main person whose expectations it failed to meet was really yours; from almost everyone else the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. And yes, I do track/collect it whenever I fi...
Great achte minute article - Posted by admin 2016-05-25 18:14:31
This here is a really good article that I 100% agree with, and was something I found myself when I was more active: http://www.achteminute.de/en/20160427/die-wudc-wealthy-uptown-debaters-championship/...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-25 13:29:01
Among other reasons because it's not been put by anybody on the feature request list. And because as you know, I oppose it for reasons of moderation.
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-25 13:27:50
I don't think he was one of the worst. He certainly isn't the best leader I can think of either, but denigrating any quality because Hitler had it is the epitome of Youtube-comment-argument. You might...
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-25 13:25:10
But if you define "government" as "an agency controlled by society" then it isn't so. Your only claim is that this definition is not how governments operate.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-25 05:57:19
This is all questions on the process of democracy. Procedural issues (which I don't concede) still fail to trump the principle of a general social right to control human media (that is to say, in this...
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-25 05:54:51
Hitler certainly had that quality over many modern politicians, even though he was also implicated in covering up plenty of his more vile activities from the German public of the time.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 12:39:46
Law tends to be written by elected officials, who represent people through a voting mechanism. If people don't like the law they can vote to change it. I'd prefer that to any group that is not account...
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 10:54:54
I don't see why management structure is the problem - accountability is. Governments are accountable to all people, private companies to their shareholders, private orgs to their members, and vigilant...
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 05:23:29
The dictionary definition. Either there must be lawlessness (as in your western vigilantes) due to an existing lack of government control, or such control must be opposed.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 05:09:35
Well no - it has to be extrajudicial (no due process etc) and motivated by anarchy (ie your dissatisfaction with the FBI) to fit that definition. What worries me is the extrajudicial part.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 05:01:51
So basically, vigilante justice?
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 04:50:17
But for child abuse, such images wouldn't exist in the first place. I think it's fair to say most people oppose child abuse. What vessel would you suggest is better suited to combating the problem of ...
Stag - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 04:36:08
For the public record, this user has been banned for trolling, profanity, and in the past, multiaccounting. He has also been warned for bullying (x3) and posting unsuitable content. It's up to th...
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 02:53:32
Maybe, but people whine about "biased" topics.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-23 10:55:41
Sure the internet is a global system, but anything PUT on the internet is controlled by a country. The internet's fairly meaningless without websites and stuff.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-23 06:02:25
And newspapers aren't published world wide?
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-23 05:29:35
Sure. So if a state should be allowed to limit what is printed in a newspaper, the same standard should apply to what they limit on the internet, IMHO.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-23 01:08:50
Do you honestly believe people should be free to post child porn on the internet?
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-22 04:33:23
Beginning
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-22 01:15:16
Not really. I'd encourage those countries to change their laws but freedom of speech has always been limited in some ways. I don't see why the internet should be any particular exception. Use of techn...
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-05-22 01:12:26
A few weeks from now. I'll be trying a shorter rego period.
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-21 09:02:48
Empty
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-21 09:02:24
Governments already censor and take control. I support it. Just because it's the internet doesn't mean existing laws shouldn't apply there.
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-05-21 04:59:22
Well DDO seems to be showing no interest in putting up a CA so it seems like it will be just me again : Oh well.
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-21 04:55:00
Nah Celestial
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-20 21:21:48
Isn;t that caught then under the already-existing provision that judges should consider the arguments made by all sides?
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-20 15:59:56
Personally I feel the whole discussion about burdens isn't too relevant as very few poor votes will actually be caught by it. At the point where somebody is engaging with burdens of proof that judgeme...
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-20 15:56:16
Oh wait, hang on, big loophole. Add in subclause: or d) The argument is not relevant to the resolution
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-20 15:54:48
What you're describing is a burden of rejoinder. How about this clause? : Burdens Judges should not award arguments in the debate on the basis of burdens or other standards to which debate...
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-20 15:49:05
Hillary Clinton isn't great because she's a conservative masquerading as a progressive. Donald Trump isn't great because he's a self-serving populist masquerading as a conservative. A great candi...
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-18 16:53:35
My definition of a burden is what a side needs to show in a debate. For pro, this is the resolution. For con, they can either knock down whatever argument/sandcastle pro has created, or try to build t...
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-18 12:20:29
I believe that you have failed to meet your burden therefore you cannot win the debate (irrespective of the material con has provided). I agree this is bad judging but this is not what a burden is. ...
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-18 05:59:35
I think @Ab_M 's solution is actually fairer for most resolutions. Con wins by default if pro does not prove their case, just as pro wins by default in a no-contest situation.
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-17 02:16:56
I've mentioned this before, but this is only true if you ignore negative freedoms.
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 10:03:04
You're given 3 possible options for topics at the start of the round. Secretly, you rank them 1,2,3, in order from the one you most want to do to least want to do. The number 3 option is vetoed, so ...
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 09:51:08
Which ones were bizarre? In the 2014 comp we let debaters choose their own motions so maybe that was why. The 2015 comp, whiteflame and I got together (as co-chief judges) and drafted a list...
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 07:42:55
It's the time of year where we start planning this. What would you like to see in this year's WODC?
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 07:40:00
Inviting comment and suggestions for edits, removals and additions to these rules: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O2wnnYH-p-Zmm-I8fI9Boa1XpSiiobW0ZLpgRNvEv0Y/
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 06:06:39
Because crazy wild controversial choices are in vogue, so that's what people are being receptive to at the moment.
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 05:50:57
Gary Johnson's definitely a safer choice. I just think that if there's ever an election to pick a crazy wild controversial choice, it's probably this one.
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 05:40:25
He's ok for the one issue he's there to advance. Clearly more of a protest candidate than anything else. Honestly if I was in the USA I'd probably vote for Jill Stein - not that I 100% agree with her ...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 05:29:43
Only invading other countries when "one country was violating a major UN order for one country to stop doing X to another country, if stuff like sanctions didn't work."
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 05:07:27
On a related topic, Lessig recently did a AMA on reddit's debate board thingy: https://www.reddit.com/r/Debate/comments/4jh6uq/i_am_lessig_here_in_rdebate_not_out_playing_with/
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-15 16:46:09
Like most people, I'm not a fan of either.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-15 16:38:30
The one immediately before it. Edeb8 protip: If you click on your name on the post where you're unsure which one I'm replying to, it will take you to the post I am replying to and put a green out...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-15 13:12:09
And the US, being a "model player" has of course always done that since 1992, right?
New Issues to add - Posted by admin 2016-05-15 03:49:24
These suggestions have been added now.
An actually hard game - Posted by admin 2016-05-13 20:03:38
My browser crashed because of it for some reason. I'm guessing edge doesn't like it much. My thought is chrome won't tolerate it forever either.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-13 09:26:25
I still think international trade is cool but I can see why many in the US feel this way.
An actually hard game - Posted by admin 2016-05-13 09:24:36
Warning: game requires flash
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-13 09:23:06
If you need a practical example, look to any given open source software.
What happened here? - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 20:28:45
More than likely.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 18:31:25
Oh shoot, this is the WW1 edition. Hang on, there was a second one somewhere...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 18:29:40
Not being involved in a lot of wars sounds like a great idea to me ;)
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 18:29:12
It's actually worth reading btw
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 18:27:29
https://archive.org/details/germanwhitebooko00germuoft
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 18:23:42
We can argue what is illegal all day, though your defensiveness on the issues is telling. But you asked what is morally ok, not legally ok. Your original question was whether they have been a mod...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 17:51:30
The 2011 agreement was a pretty civil way of resolving it honestly. US is just antagonizing China in the media now in the same way they did to Iran 10 years ago. The public wants people to be afraid o...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 17:49:52
So then invade Argentina before China. Yeah China've laid claim, I was saying they laid claim rightfully and before any other current claims. Tell me what about claiming an island chain is illega...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 16:38:05
Yeah, sure. The Kunduz hospital airstrike. And before you say, oh that was a mistake, that's not a point. The point is that it was morally questionable, in clear violation of international law, and no...
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 16:37:01
Disagree in that I feel like people are motivated to improve their own lives (and thus stimulate the economy and technological progression) even when they do not need to compete against others. I can ...
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 08:48:37
Market socialism for sure. The threat of stagnation is more sustainable than the threat of social stratification.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 03:33:56
So because 2 nations have taken actions you disagree with... oh boy. Do you think the USA has not done any of the things you accuse Russia and China of? If you lived in Nazi Germany you'd probably...
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 03:23:52
I think it is economically socialist. If you want to have a broader discussion of communism I don't see how it relates to the OP.
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-11 10:02:05
What would you say is the difference between communism as you understand it an socialism?
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-11 04:05:32
Largely agree. It's all about the metric, ie what people want the economy to do. That's a moral decision.
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-11 04:04:39
It's a political system, not an economic one
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-11 04:04:11
Russia hasn't annexed Ukraine, it has annexed Crimea. It has done so to seize strategic ports and show solidarity for those Crimeans who wish to become part of Russia. Much like the US has no nee...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-11 03:55:18
Not all whites are the same, not all non-whites are either. Racists are race-conscious, everyone else is not.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 19:04:49
Why is it "white world" vs "poor world"? Your language is confrontational and not cooperative with everything you write. Aren't we all humans?
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 19:03:04
I think you yourself noted that Iran's interest was more spurred by economics. The Gulf War started a new conventional war and did not stop any. Roughly 6k innocent civilians were killed who did not n...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 18:42:00
Of course it didn't. The Gulf War didn't solve anything. Kuwait is still corrupt and Iraq is still mostly ruled by tyrannical fanatics. If your assumption is people won't fight over a territory t...
Possible Outage Warning - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 11:56:46
Edeb8 is hopefully going to be upgraded to allow us to use HTTPS soon. This will mean: 1. A more secure site 2. Higher rankings in Google 3. The ability for us to use additional web browser c...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 10:23:49
Sure, "less likely" I'd agree with. People will naturally target those who they think will be the easiest targets after all, since that way they're more likely to get what they want. Wh...
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 10:13:39
I think the emphasis in socialism is more on equitable distribution, not maximal utility, while you're right in saying in capitalism it's on maximizing gross product. Socialism assumes capital accumul...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 05:09:05
That just proves the model of attacking bullies doesn't work. 2 wrongs will never make a right no matter how much you spin it.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 05:07:47
That enlarges wars, esp. in western countries where war is relatively rare anyway, but its rarely the initial cause.
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 05:01:48
It depends on the goals of the country at the time, but in the long term socialism is more sustainable. Most economies work best with some mixed model. I don't think ownership model matters a lot...
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 04:52:41
By that metric, capitalism is better.
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 04:47:15
shoes
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 04:46:46
By that particular metric, socialism no doubt.
New Issues to add - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 04:43:37
I use that site a lot, many of them are already on the list.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 04:43:05
Ok, so would you say that if Russia annexes Crimea and arms militia attacking the Ukraine - both of which are indebted to Russia - that the USA should attack Russia? Or are you applying a different st...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 03:48:53
Oh. So if Hussain is being a bully the US can bully too? Yeah, great precedent. /irony
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 03:47:18
Best at achieving what metric?
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 22:00:09
Oh, you mean like people who believe that the best diplomacy is pointing more guns around, instead of cooperation? Yeah, I don't see the build up of more arms as solving that problem. Passive nonviole...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 20:36:06
This is how wars happen. People wage war, usually, to compete over resources. Take away a person's means to live and you force them to fight. If you happen to have a big army, it doesn't matter, they'...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 20:22:40
Glitter
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 18:32:09
If you don't share your food, it doesn't matter how many guns you hold to a hungry man's face.
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 05:36:54
Bringing back this classic: http://www.edeb8.com/forum/Games/54/0 Starting with the word: "New"
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 05:30:46
Yip :)
What happened here? - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 05:30:25
Nope, sorry, that happens when I update the database but accidentally forget to explicitly tell it not to update the online flag, which I have to do each time. At some point I should change it so...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 03:00:23
I really need to remember to switch accounts lol. I keep the other one open a lot nowadays for something else.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-07 16:53:07
There's a certain irony in using a war to demonstrate a model of the end of war.
ELO score - Posted by admin 2016-05-07 07:08:56
Sure. Been about a year since it's happened in online debates though. When I started out online (about 6ish years ago) I used to lose a good 50% of the time. It comes with experience a bit. Of co...
New Issues to add - Posted by admin 2016-05-07 05:51:17
Quick comments: "That the United States should decrease its military budget" - agree "That we should use Voter IDs to protect against voter fraud" - agree "That priva...
Existence of God - Posted by admin 2016-05-06 03:52:23
Same answer, different mechanism. Just because a concept is hard does not make it true. If you absolutely want me to play a total devil's advocate, a God who could defy logic would be greater tha...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-06 02:36:08
Inflation means more money chasing fewer goods. On a macro scale, employers invest less and people earn more with minimum wages. In order to believe minimum wages cause inflation, you have to believe ...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-06 02:36:02
Because if workers are less employable, you should pay the remaining workers more, not less, as they're more valuable. Lower minimum wages just create a race to the bottom in such a scenario, and you ...
Existence of God - Posted by admin 2016-05-06 02:21:21
The very fact you and @Krazy disagree about this says something about the weirdness of the notion of omnipotence. For me anyway, it's far simpler to believe in "being good" rather than havin...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-05 02:43:15
Repeating a previous post, verbatim, doesn't lend credence to an point. I tend to rebut substantive material as general themes or assumptions, rather than specific lines. As far as "picking examp...
Existence of God - Posted by admin 2016-05-05 01:52:09
Many reasons, simplest being that omnipotence negates itself (like, creating rocks heavier than it can lift).
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-04 08:12:02
Calling other viewpoints "stupid" and your own as "making sense" is not an argument. The point of debating is to justify your opinions with logic or analysis, not so much emotive l...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-04 04:33:14
Your point, "it's only reasonable", is an assertion. It fundamentally assumes that giving wages is a gift, not an obligation. If wages are an obligation then there is no reason to assume the...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-03 04:00:31
I think it's inevitable that university etc will increasingly be required for work, that's just the nature of progress - there's more to learn now than before. If we accept that work is going to be ne...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-03 03:44:26
But if you believe technological advances and low-skill, low-wage competition from overseas have limited the number of minimum wage jobs in the U.S. and prevented employers from doling out raises, the...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-03 03:43:22
Low skilled workers don't have much of a future working anyway, don't you think? As tech becomes cheaper, there's an ever-decreasing price of labour for those with low skills, and eventually it just b...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-03 03:40:19
So do you support the kind of sweatshops that have historically been common in places like China or Bangladesh or some of the west African countries, then? Isn't that employers deciding a wage?
Existence of God - Posted by admin 2016-05-03 03:36:24
I believe no God exists, because I have a logical problem with omnipotence. The concept makes no sense.
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-02 05:30:54
Yeah, I don't like labels like "capitalist" for me. I'm a very practical person economically and rigid labels don't help with that much. If you force me to pick though, I'm a liberal capital...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-02 03:49:26
Personally I think the impact would be negative, especially in the short run with sticky wages and stuff complicating things. I guess I wouldn't say a minimum wage is necessary for capitalism, bu...
New feature: time extensions - Posted by admin 2016-05-01 08:02:32
Short on time on your debate? With this latest update, and the permission of your opponent, you can now request and receive extra time to complete your round. :)
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-01 06:50:16
I'd disagree with both of those impacts. Minimum wages, in my view, do not cause inflation. As for more new jobs, basically all you'd see is less outsourcing, meaning less specialization in the labour...
Live debate this weekend - Posted by admin 2016-05-01 06:17:24
Unfortunately bsh1 just pulled out entirely now. Which is such a shame because I had such a good case XD Oh well. :(
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-04-30 15:04:58
People would frequently be paid less than the federal minimum wage. Duh.
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-04-29 04:24:42
Here the minimum wage currently varies a bit depending on your age and a few other things but for most people, it's a little over $15/hour. This is barely liveable given what goods cost here, but ok i...
あなたのいずれかが、アニメが好きですか? - Posted by admin 2016-04-29 04:17:28
I'm not an expert on internet law, doubly so for what's legal in the USA, but just as an example, NZ has strict laws against things like incitement to suicide and other extreme forms of cyberbullying,...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-27 02:03:59
Fine, since nobody else is doing it, check the features and bugs section
Live debate this weekend - Posted by admin 2016-04-27 02:03:26
I think it's good, but then again I'm a technology focused person XD
あなたのいずれかが、アニメが好きですか? - Posted by admin 2016-04-26 14:10:46
More or less what @Bifurcations said - I guess I'd only add, the context of the matter would be taken into account. If I feel any post is obstructing my ability to moderate, I mean, what else can I do...
Live debate this weekend - Posted by admin 2016-04-24 04:05:03
Unfortunately bsh1 had to cancel for today, we should have the debate in a week's time instead.
Judging leaderboard change - Posted by admin 2016-04-23 05:56:56
The system used for ranking judges has changed slightly. 1-point decisions now no longer count towards the total in the multiplication (feedback X judgments) used primarily to determine rank. Thi...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-23 05:32:21
Aff wins. Interesting that you consider draws a "feature", especially one that convinces you to not be part of a site. Oh well, maybe one day people will suggest it on the feature request th...
あなたのいずれかが、アニメが好きですか? - Posted by admin 2016-04-23 00:23:57
Yes. I also gave a warning to the member involved earlier in the thread.
Survey Results - Posted by admin 2016-04-22 10:01:24
Did you like the survey? Is there anything that stands out for you about it?
Survey Results - Posted by admin 2016-04-22 10:00:34
Recently we ran the edeb8 member survey. While the response rate was not as high as I would have hoped, I think it gives a few interesting insights into the overall feelings of the community. The...
Live debate this weekend - Posted by admin 2016-04-21 11:37:47
If you're doing nothing important at 1am EST on Sunday morning, please consider watching or judging what will go down as a live video debate for the ages. THE COMPETITORS Pro = "admin"...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-20 02:29:37
Yes -- and by the way, your point (2) already exists :P But it's heartening to read that sort of thing because I'm sensing a lot of common themes here, and so hopefully we can build on those.
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-20 02:11:22
I LOVE what's going on in this thread BTW, great to see this kind of level of discourse on the topic. Seems not so long ago that I was really struggling to convince another website that people should ...
Feature Announcement: Lincoln-Douglas debates - Posted by admin 2016-04-20 01:47:31
Edeb8 makes history once again by being the first debate website to properly support Lincoln-Douglas format debating. For those who don't know, LD is a popular format in the United States. It's n...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-18 15:34:41
Does that incentivise what judging styles are popular over what judging styles are most constructive and helpful?
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-18 12:18:48
Possibly, though I'd prefer if it was the debaters, not just the site at large.
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-18 12:16:47
I think you're sort of confusing the mechanics of a debate and a judgment. So like, from a code perspective, each debater is assigned a number, and the system at the end of each debate determines a wi...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-18 12:02:22
Maybe. Debaters would have to wait for me to manually do that on every debate though. Which honestly I'm trying to avoid.
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-18 11:57:02
How would judge ratings affect scores in such a scenario?
Postmodern art - Posted by admin 2016-04-18 02:28:38
Is modern abstract art really art? Or are people just profiting from the gullible? XD
WODC? - Posted by admin 2016-04-17 15:37:39
Whoops, totally forgot to answer this. Yes there will. It will happen later this year.
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-17 14:54:12
Isn't the whole point of debating that there are no draws? That was the first thing I learnt when I did my accreditation training, that debate is set apart from most other competitive sports in that d...
Debating podcast - Posted by admin 2016-04-17 02:38:22
Since there seems to be some interest in this, let's make a group to discuss it! http://www.edeb8.com/group/Edeb8+Podcast+Group
Debating podcast - Posted by admin 2016-04-14 07:57:43
I'd be in favour. I had a similar idea myself some years ago.
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-13 23:33:25
Isn't it already clear that vote bombs are given to voters whose judgements have more opinion than analysis, then?
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-13 23:31:55
I had a similar idea once where votes could be removed by the mutual consent of both debaters.
Some People... - Posted by admin 2016-04-13 15:56:01
Something tells me this conversation didn't happen.
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-13 15:54:20
I also would challenge anyone to come up with a better algorithmic solution to assigning points to votes for "quality" than the present system. I say algorithmic because: 1. I'd rather wor...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-13 15:51:49
But if, in the second scenario, there is one bad vote and nobody else votes ... how else is the system to determine the winner? By coin toss? Is that more fair?
Somebody do this debate: - Posted by admin 2016-04-12 06:57:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0FHEEuMvuI
Edeb8 member survey! - Posted by admin 2016-04-12 06:42:29
I put a link to it on the dashboard (just underneath the debate panel)
Edeb8 member survey! - Posted by admin 2016-04-12 06:20:33
4 XD
Edeb8 member survey! - Posted by admin 2016-04-12 03:16:39
Thanks! Would be nice to get a bit more than 3 responses though.
Prosperity and Poverty in Countries - Posted by admin 2016-04-12 03:14:33
I think it's a combination of about 4 things 1. Trade Closed off or isolated societies tend to develop technology slower. This has a logical explanation - the more minds work on developing tech...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-11 01:18:27
The inherent problem with this is that there are a LOT of formats.
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-11 00:20:07
I don't see why that follows. This idea that everyone should contribute with respect for their means isn't entitlements in my view, it's simple fairness to ask of people what they can afford.
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 22:34:48
If I thought taxes should be higher on the rich, would you say that's part of the entitlement culture that you oppose?
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 12:57:31
Why apply a different standard to government?
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 10:57:25
Then wouldn't it be fair to assign points based on the quality of the judgment? ;)
Edeb8 member survey! - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 10:22:45
Here's an actual linky version: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/2704904/Edeb8-member-survey
Edeb8 member survey! - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 10:21:52
The features and bugs thingy is great for finding out what you guys want. But I think it's time we did a more general survey of what you all think of the site overall and stuff! So... here goes :...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 10:19:57
By the same logic, would you also support banning routine forfeiters or those with very poor debating skills?
あなたのいずれかが、アニメが好きですか? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 06:38:08
XD
あなたのいずれかが、アニメが好きですか? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 06:34:46
No problem. And yes, at present that's the case. The reason is that for me to have to go on Google translate every single time something is posted in another language would be a big job for me! T...
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 06:27:37
That would be a very simple progressive tax system on income. The issue is actually rarely connected to the precise percentages used. It's more about where you can hide that income. For example i...
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 05:55:14
This only holds true if the tax system is full of loopholes. The better solution, usually, is to have a simple tax system with minimal loopholes so everyone pays a fair amount.
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 05:54:18
So your problem then is with free riders. In that case, why aren't you donating to edeb8's patreon?
あなたのいずれかが、アニメが好きですか? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 05:47:40
Just remember, according to the terms of use ALL posts MUST be in understandable English. Somehow I don't think this qualifies. Sorry. Take this as a warning.
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-09 04:51:16
I get into a lot of trouble whenever I say this, but I think unemployment is both a desirable outcome of market efficiency, as well as an undesirable outcome of market inefficiency. What's often misse...
What do you actually believe? - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 22:12:47
1. Being kind to others rules, always 2. Demonstrate empathy 3. The environment should be protected 4. Peace is always superior to war 5. You don't need religion to be a good person The i...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 22:06:55
I had about 4 goals in mind when making the current system: - Fairness. Basically no debates should be decided on the basis of very poor judgements. - Encouragement. As many people should judge...
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 21:59:34
@DHS15608 @cooldudebro I think you're both basically making the same point so I'll answer both of you at once. So, in a free market, there are tons of things that can happen that are not personal...
Legal Polygamy? - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 21:41:13
Well, you have moral consistency, I'll give you that. I think people impose these moral standards for a reason. Just like we don't allow marriages to kids because we want to protect them.
What do you actually believe? - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 13:59:32
In 5 bullet points, describe the most important elements of whatever your personal faith or philosophy is. Let's see how much of a cool variety of this stuff we have here!
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 10:34:39
Had to do a lot of tests there to catch a few very tough bugs! While I was at it I fixed a few bugs to do with the recent friend activity feed on the home page too, and brought back at symbols before ...
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 09:55:02
@admin and again...
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 09:53:09
@admin and again
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 09:52:34
@admin still testing
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 09:09:37
@admin blah blah blah
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 09:04:50
@admin keep ignoring, still running some tests
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 08:59:06
admin ignore this post everyone
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 06:06:16
BTW, 3 small recent bug fixes: > "Start drafting your next post" no longer appears in CX during video debates > Improved appearance of text debate toolbar when header borders ar...
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 06:05:12
Thanks to a recent change, email notifications will now send about 500% faster, albeit at the cost of a slight delay in sending the messages of up to a few minutes (but hopefully for most cases it wil...
Legal Polygamy? - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 05:20:57
Should I be allowed to marry a 5 year old, in your view?
Giving up on edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 05:15:51
Haha. It was just a joke XD
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 05:15:32
In my view - and I can't speak for Bifurcations - but that's exactly right. Free markets tend to favour those who can control them, and in economics, money is a form of power, for better or worse. I w...
Voting Needed Thread - Posted by admin 2016-04-06 10:53:30
Just the URL is enough to add an image. There is no need for a code, it detects image formats by their extension, so the image URL needs to end in ".jpg" or similar. To check what codes...
Giving up on edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-04-01 04:58:48
Edeb8 sucks, it's pretty much dead. Nobody posts on the forums anymore, groups are pretty useless, judgments are mostly vote-bombs, all the debates are low quality, and there's hardly any debates anyw...
I'm fixing a lot recently - Posted by admin 2016-03-29 16:09:49
Yeah, so... YouTube has dropped support for webcam uploads. Which sucks. And also, videos weren't uploading at all in video debates because Google changed their APIs again. I've updated the site ...
I'm Back - Posted by admin 2016-03-27 05:21:45
Not too bad. Keeping this website running lol. And you?
I'm Back - Posted by admin 2016-03-26 23:26:56
Hey, one of our earlier members :) Nice to see you again!
Happy easter! - Posted by admin 2016-03-26 23:26:16
Bunnies and chocolate eggs for all!
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-03-14 08:50:28
And if you say nukes are not useless, then you're saying you advocate the mass murder of people using nuclear radiation. I guess this is a fundamental difference between you and me because I don'...
Which was your favorite debate on this site? - Posted by admin 2016-03-13 05:24:30
Often the best debates is a bit of a personal thing, but which one did you enjoy the most?
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-03-12 12:33:41
I'm pretty sure the US narrative at the time was that the Soviets were VERY threatening with their nuclear weapons. And that Stalin was a ruthless dictator who'd gladly and manically kill everyone jus...
Fixed Image Uploads In Debates - Posted by admin 2016-03-11 07:41:21
Yeah, updated to make Imgur happy. Warning: while I've forced the change for debate arguments, you may need to clear your cache before the fix works on other editors on the site. Most people tend...
Fixed Groups - Posted by admin 2016-03-11 00:17:59
Which were suffering from a serious bug that nobody else seemed to notice. Would be cool to see groups be used more :) A bit like the forums I guess, they have a lot of potential. Should hav...
Iran Elections - Posted by admin 2016-03-10 09:41:30
Totally agreed about the guardian council BTW. It's by nature a conservative institution but it's not really serving the best interests of Iran as a country any more.
Will the MH370 be found? - Posted by admin 2016-03-06 21:17:38
... within the next ten years? Or is still looking for the wreckage a total waste?
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-03-05 21:41:10
Funny, 25 years ago the US was saying the same about Russia.
greetings - Posted by admin 2016-03-05 21:39:33
Hi back :)
Top Inventions - Posted by admin 2016-03-05 08:15:43
I thought the big one missing was algebra, so I guess we're sorta similar XD
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-03-05 04:15:03
Yes, though NATO type governments have also refused to rule it out as just using them ad hoc. Would you consider nuclear disarmament and non-proliferation deals attempts to destroy nuclear deterr...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-03-04 22:24:12
Should nations keep the option of a nuclear "first strike" open in foreign policy? Only China and India, among the nuclear powers, have ruled it out at present.
ELO score - Posted by admin 2016-03-04 22:20:45
Also, there are no draws on edeb8, and I use a more complex system for calculating 4-way debates, but this is basically it.
ELO score - Posted by admin 2016-03-04 22:19:29
This is all based on Prof. Elo's original equation. Elo was a Hungarian statistician and chess player. The same system is used for chess or tennis or debating. It measures statistical probability o...
Top Inventions - Posted by admin 2016-03-04 05:00:28
I was just reading this list of the so-called "top 10 inventions that changed the world": http://www.livescience.com/33749-top-10-inventions-changed-world.html What would you put as you...
Least favorite music - Posted by admin 2016-03-02 22:20:03
Alright, what's one music genre you DON'T like much? Be sure to +1 any genres you agree with :)
The "Licentiate" vicepresident scandal - Posted by admin 2016-02-28 12:27:03
That, as per usual, politicians do not always tell the truth :)
Is Martial Law considered a tyrannical rule? - Posted by admin 2016-02-28 12:26:04
I'd also say yes. Taking away liberty doesn't buy security.
Iran Elections - Posted by admin 2016-02-27 08:14:23
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-election-vote-idUSKCN0VZ0E7 Will Iran move closer to the president or the supreme leader? I guess we'll find out soon! I love elections. They're so exc...
Apple - Posted by admin 2016-02-26 11:05:49
I think the point was, the homosexuals who would be subjected to study in such times would be the ones who were least able to control their sexual desires and keep them under wraps. Of course then the...
Clickbait headlines - Posted by admin 2016-02-26 11:02:36
Make up some! Bonus if they're debate related. Like this: One weird old hack to tell if your opponents are squirreling or not.
Cost arguments - Posted by admin 2016-02-26 10:45:32
One thing I was always taught is that cost is a decent support argument, but will rarely carry as substantive. The main reason why is because of one of two things: 1. Either the opposition can ...
Cost arguments - Posted by admin 2016-02-25 03:27:10
Just thought I'd share this user profile - read the bio: http://www.edeb8.com/profile/Bifurcations/ What do you think about the use of cost as a prime focus of a debate argument?
Apple - Posted by admin 2016-02-24 10:12:35
Anyone here use a Mac? iPhone? What do you think of Tim Cook?
Apple - Posted by admin 2016-02-24 10:12:35
Anyone here use a Mac? iPhone? What do you think of Tim Cook?
Legal Polygamy? - Posted by admin 2016-02-24 10:10:11
I'll let my brother speak for himself if he wants to since he's on this site. My view on this is that governments should use social policy where a clear benefit can be justified, and marriage is ...
Legal Polygamy? - Posted by admin 2016-02-23 09:47:34
Should somebody be allowed to be married to multiple people at the same time? My brother and I have a disagreement on this so I thought I'd open it up for discussion!
Is there an afterlife? - Posted by admin 2016-02-22 05:56:59
Operation forum revival is go!
Gene Editing in Humans - Posted by admin 2016-02-22 05:27:54
The usual argument is that it exacerbates inequality.
Gene Editing in Humans - Posted by admin 2016-02-21 00:37:19
The risk is that, should things continue to develop, what could governments do to stop someone who might discover how to make superhumans? (for want of a better word). Surely people would try it! ...
Gene Editing in Humans - Posted by admin 2016-02-20 21:54:33
The technology is still some ways off but there are numerous diseases scientists would love to treat in people! Is this a slippery slope to designer babies or could it potentially save millions of liv...
New Badges - Posted by admin 2016-02-20 09:11:58
Also, while I was at it, I just fixed that random bug with 4-way debates that's cropped up recently on the site a few times.
Operation: Revive the forums - Posted by admin 2016-02-20 08:09:51
So yeah ... I'm sure everyone's noticed the forums are pretty dead. I've not always been a fan of forums when they detract from debate, but a little more activity would be nice. :) I'm launching ...
New Badges - Posted by admin 2016-02-20 08:01:45
Check them out: http://www.edeb8.com/images/badges/birthday.png Birthday Badge This badge is for everyone who logs in to edeb8 on their birthday! This badge also requires your birthday to be actu...
New Members Thread: Welcome to EDEB8.com! - Posted by admin 2016-01-28 08:05:07
Welcome :)
Experement forum - Posted by admin 2016-01-27 01:53:29
Congrats! :D
Judging Test Debate - Posted by admin 2016-01-25 13:07:31
Near the start of February, the update for the new badges will launch, and edeb8 will see its first ever judging test! Here's how it works: > I will post a debate - arguing both sides (it's ...
Debating is still fun, right? - Posted by admin 2016-01-25 05:57:50
Can we do it after Feb 18th? I have a birthday then and I'm doing a lot of stuff between now and then, with hiking and stuff.
Debating is still fun, right? - Posted by admin 2016-01-25 05:23:51
I'm still here. Just sayin'.
Raging Forfeits - Posted by admin 2016-01-23 02:31:08
It's an optional feature anyway though. :
Raging Forfeits - Posted by admin 2016-01-22 01:37:32
Yeah, it is annoying. What can we do about it?
The state of edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-01-15 08:22:48
It was a hangover like thing, not a drunk like thing, if that makes sense
The state of edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-01-15 04:43:42
You need to register beforehand who will speak in what position(s). Since we'd already registered him as the reply speaker for that debate we were screwed.
The state of edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-01-15 04:29:57
Yes because we have reply speeches in New Zealand, and although he'd done his first speech, he was still due to give a reply.
The state of edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-01-15 03:00:58
My team had to forfeit a debate once half-way through in real life because one of my teammates passed out. Had been drinking heavily the night before. Was pretty embarrassing.
The state of edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-01-15 02:06:49
We already don't put such debates on the homepage etc for non-logged-in users. Trouble with deleting them outright is that some users may nonetheless want the points etc when somebody forfeits to...
The state of edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-01-14 13:19:21
With the "state of the union" type presidential speech probably inspiring many Americans, I thought I'd explain how I think edeb8 is doing, what's working, and what isn't. As many will ...
An AMA worth reading - Posted by admin 2016-01-13 13:01:51
https://www.reddit.com/r/Debate/comments/40n4r5/im_steve_sestanovich_ama/ For anyone remotely interested in Russian politics, esp. foreign policy, this is pretty good.
5 Dimensional Policial Compass - Posted by admin 2016-01-12 11:28:37
I'm not anarchist either though. That would probably have been a negative percentage on the authoritarian scale. 0% is middle on this, remember?
5 Dimensional Policial Compass - Posted by admin 2016-01-10 00:05:16
Their wording is pretty careless in any event. The percentages can probably be explained by my leaning towards civil rights and collective democracy, and my own flavor of liberal socialism.
5 Dimensional Policial Compass - Posted by admin 2016-01-09 18:41:47
I'm not sure what this test is on about either really XD. I mean, seriously... Liberalism refers to acceptance of historically illegal or immoral social practices or customs. Do these people...
5 Dimensional Policial Compass - Posted by admin 2016-01-09 15:40:11
As I said: You are a: Communist Isolationist Bleeding-Heart Liberal Collectivism score: 83% Authoritarianism score: 0% Internationalism score: -50% Tribalism score: -83% Liberalis...
5 Dimensional Policial Compass - Posted by admin 2016-01-09 15:21:59
I got this: You are a: Communist Isolationist Bleeding-Heart Liberal Collectivism score: 83% Authoritarianism score: 0% Internationalism score: -50% Tribalism score: -83% Liberalism sco...
Happy new year! - Posted by admin 2015-12-31 11:24:31
It's new year's here in NZ right now and it's awesome. Pretty cool that edeb8 is still going since 2013! Looking forward to a great year ahead. Thanks to all members!
Sexist language - Posted by admin 2015-12-30 11:21:59
He was a multiaccount of another banned user, RationalMadman.
Sexist language - Posted by admin 2015-12-29 15:11:49
It's curious that in languages where nouns are gendered, such accusations are almost never made. "Oh, school is a feminine word? That's so sexist!"
Sexist language - Posted by admin 2015-12-29 08:44:46
I'd say language becomes sexist when it puts down one gender over another. For example, the phrase "girls are stupid" would be sexist language.
2015 member awards! - Posted by admin 2015-12-29 00:37:25
I guess I might as well extend the poll into the new year owing to low numbers of votes. :(
Merry Christmas! - Posted by admin 2015-12-24 10:34:13
Hope y'all are safe and well this holidays! :D
2015 member awards! - Posted by admin 2015-12-23 02:20:03
Could use more votes on this!
2015 member awards! - Posted by admin 2015-12-20 00:59:30
That debate was awesome, but there's something of an unwritten rule I applied that disqualified any debates that didn't reach the front page. Our debate didn't get enough +1s unfortunately. You d...
2015 member awards! - Posted by admin 2015-12-19 11:00:52
Forgot to mention: GO HERE TO CAST YOUR VOTES: http://www.edeb8.com/group/Edeb8+Member+Awards/
2015 member awards! - Posted by admin 2015-12-19 07:35:31
Voting is now open for the 2015 Edeb8 member awards! Currently up for vote is DEBATER OF THE YEAR, with COMMUNITY MEMBER OF THE YEAR coming in a week or so :) The winners will be announced on New...
why was stag b&? - Posted by admin 2015-12-12 00:45:48
For trolling and for bullying complaints by 3 members.
Debating is still fun, right? - Posted by admin 2015-12-07 23:05:32
Neat! Love BP format.
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-12-06 04:25:40
Even when the other forum threads die, this one shall remain active.
Debating is still fun, right? - Posted by admin 2015-11-28 11:55:23
Haven't seen you around in ages :D
Edeb8 has a patreon now - Posted by admin 2015-11-25 02:06:24
For all the fundraising requests etc on the features + bugs page :) Check it out here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=128234 It's also advertised on the dashboard.
Does science argue for or against God? - Posted by admin 2015-11-22 15:17:39
Log out. That will complete the process. The only way I can force remove you from the site is by banning your IP entirely. I've set it to remove you as soon as you log out.
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-11-21 20:30:07
I'm surprised nobody has requested a leaderboard for this thread in the feature requests yet.
Does science argue for or against God? - Posted by admin 2015-11-21 20:28:58
Not Pragar University again! Sometimes I think anyone who in any way purports to be an academic should be legally required to at least attempt to be objective when making youtube videos. :
Issues Questions - Posted by admin 2015-11-21 20:26:20
The questions on the issues are the same as the random topic database. The idea is that each issue can be used as a ready-made debate resolution to allow you to challenge somebody. And the random...
New Features! - Posted by admin 2015-11-21 20:21:59
Hey everyone, Some of the top requested features are now here! > Added the ability to deactivate your own account > Better sharing buttons in debates > Added the ability to see ...
The EITC Alternative - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 02:26:35
I think we might need another thread on the MW in that case :D
The EITC Alternative - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 01:52:52
The minimum wage also decreases the reliance on welfare and incentivises employment, it's whether it has an effect on the employment rate that's the question. Essentially some economists think the MW ...
The EITC Alternative - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 01:37:31
Nope, where was this hiding!? In general I'm a fan of making taxes more progressive. So increasing the real income of the poor relative to the wealthy is a good thing. However, from what little I...
Edeb8 team democrat vs team republican - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 01:28:22
Might have to do 3v1 if this continues lol. Otherwise O'Malley will probably quit before I get around to speaking for him XD.
Locked Threads - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 01:26:45
Also, you can link to the old thread if you like.
Locked Threads - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 01:19:16
You can always make a new thread on the same topic :)
Windows 10 thread - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 00:22:19
Most of the time, yes. Though I can't see any annotations in it without an extension. To be fair, my computer's not the best.
Locked Threads - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 00:21:29
It was actually a user feature request to prevent necroposting.
Edeb8 team democrat vs team republican - Posted by admin 2015-11-06 23:40:00
Nobody wants to join my team?
Edeb8 team democrat vs team republican - Posted by admin 2015-11-06 12:19:47
Casual bumping :)
Edeb8 team democrat vs team republican - Posted by admin 2015-11-06 04:29:55
Each debater speaks for one round in the debate, except the leaders (Trump and Hillary) who also get to do the final summation / reply speech. The site would randomly determine who goes first.
Edeb8 team democrat vs team republican - Posted by admin 2015-11-06 04:28:25
Let's get this debate happening! Each debater should impersonate one character from the democrats or the republicans. The format will be 3v3 with reply speeches. TEAM DEMOCRAT 1. admin (Hillary...
Debating is still fun, right? - Posted by admin 2015-11-05 23:27:33
That would be kinda cool. Would you be keen on leading team GOP? Do it as a 3v3 debate and each side does the 3 leading candidates from their parties.
Debating is still fun, right? - Posted by admin 2015-11-05 12:34:34
This is exactly why I'd love to have live debates integrated fully into the site at last.
Political Quiz - Posted by admin 2015-11-05 04:20:32
Sorry. That happens if you reply to the thread as opposed to replying to the post. So that the site doesn't have to send hundreds of emails when somebody posts on the last post wins thread or somethin...
... and Stag got himself banned again - Posted by admin 2015-11-05 04:15:56
Back in his Jifpop days he certainly had his enemies. But what can I do? Nobody can say I didn't try. I even defended him on DDO.
Questioning Humanity - Posted by admin 2015-11-05 01:31:13
Crazy people exist. I fight as hard as anyone for the last piece of chicken, but this clearly crosses the line.
Semantics - Posted by admin 2015-11-05 01:22:06
Like most things it depends on the context. Oftentimes semantics is like a continuum between the two positions, as you say. I feel like people are capable of being more like (1) when they're discussin...
... and Stag got himself banned again - Posted by admin 2015-11-05 00:45:20
Shows how much bans on DDO are worth really.
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-04 13:47:27
I don't blame you for his attack on you. I do blame you if you counter-attack him in "defending yourself". If you're saying there's a problem with HIM, that's an attack, whereas if you say t...
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-04 12:27:19
No, you don't, because a repeated pattern of personal attacks is bullying, and enough has been said about this topic. I've warned both of you to stop, and even now you're still attacking his intellige...
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-04 12:16:52
Please don't do this if you don't want to get banned.
... and Stag got himself banned again - Posted by admin 2015-11-04 05:53:29
Stag was let back on the site on the condition that he make a certain statement to the community. He did not make that statement. Therefore, he has been banned once more.
Stag has been unbanned... - Posted by admin 2015-11-04 01:46:05
... and I believe he has a few words he'd like to share with us all ...
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-03 02:10:14
JohnMaynardKeynes this is sensible. Avoid each other. Heck, block each other!
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-03 02:06:08
Please re-read rather than assume I said nothing to him. I gave him a warning already.
Debating is still fun, right? - Posted by admin 2015-11-03 01:37:16
Just a reminder: There's only two people on this site currently in a debate, and one of them is me. There's a judgement-period debate that's been sitting there for like a week, with zero judgem...
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-03 01:33:34
Warning - don't retaliate. If it happens again, you're gone. I feel for you because you're attacked so much recently, but these counter-attacks are counter-productive and need to stop.
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-03 01:32:07
Warning: stop this bullying. One more warning and you're gone.
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-01 08:28:05
Why?
Political Quiz - Posted by admin 2015-10-30 03:12:34
Well... I'm 91% Bernie Sanders. 81% Hillary Clinton... and my top republican is Rand Paul, followed by Donald Trump. :D
Political Quiz - Posted by admin 2015-10-30 01:02:42
Where's the link to the actual test so we could do it though? XD
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-27 00:57:26
With two ats before and after their name. Like this: @@Someuser that doesn't exist@@ is pretty cool.
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-27 00:29:43
If he's being rude or inappropriate, the correct response would be to get me to talk to him, not to stir the pot.
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-27 00:21:23
I don't care. If you're not going to sit idly by, I won't either. I'm happy to ban you both if I have to. You've both been warned. You're right to respond does not extend to a right to break the ...
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-27 00:15:29
Final warning JMK. This is instant ban-worthy material here. You're using profane language, and you're not participating in a healthy community, by making posts like this.
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-26 06:11:54
Yeah, look, this was clearly out of line. If you say something like this again after all that, you'll be banned.
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-26 03:46:08
I don't think so, because it doesn't imply that any specific DDO user is actually that. I was on DDO and I wasn't sociopathic or unstable. Likewise saying people on edeb8 are often sociopathic, for ex...
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-26 01:05:47
OK, on that note, now is probably the time to end this. Things have just been too heated. There's nothing to be gained from posting here at this point. Make new threads if you must. Some of this ...
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-26 00:18:09
Oi!
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-26 00:09:19
Just a note to all in this thread: be nice to each other. Anyone who's concerned about rules violations etc can always talk to me. :)
Five Phases of the History of Labor - Posted by admin 2015-10-25 05:15:50
See, I seem to recall there was once a time when we didn't. OK, I'll admit, it's debateable if we were really "humans" then. Neanderthals had already pretty much spread around the world...
Five Phases of the History of Labor - Posted by admin 2015-10-25 04:57:15
Why do you believe the manual phase probably never existed?
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-25 00:30:48
Immediately prior, nothing happened. I hadn't really even been on DDO for a month beforehand, hadn't done any debates etc. So much so that ClassicRobert kept reaching out to me and asking where I was ...
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-24 12:42:02
That was not nasty. At worst I accused him of neglecting debating, and he accused me of neglecting the community. Politicking stuff. After the election, Airmax made me the chief of tournaments, and ev...
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-24 08:38:32
Quite the opposite - I'd say DDO is a magnet for sociopathic unstable people, since it draws in anyone with an opinion, as opposed to serious formal debaters specifically. Two groups of people come to...
#DemDebate Thread - Posted by admin 2015-10-22 23:50:55
You're using "well versed" here in the sense of how well-informed, not in the sense of how she says them. In a debate, the latter is infinitely more important. I've won plenty of debates bef...
Stag's ban - Posted by admin 2015-10-21 04:21:30
The rule here is that all bans last until the relevant transgressions are sincerely apologized for. So semi-permanent.
Stag's ban - Posted by admin 2015-10-21 02:11:26
He can't PM me because he's banned, but he knows my email - an email will do. The point, though, is yes. Sincere sorry = welcome back.
Stag's ban - Posted by admin 2015-10-21 02:04:54
The second one you posted in this thread. Which that post was in reply to.
Stag's ban - Posted by admin 2015-10-21 01:55:10
Also, this post is super sensible.
Stag's ban - Posted by admin 2015-10-21 01:54:13
My understanding is that for an actual prosecution you'd need to be able to demonstrate damages or a harm. Hurt feelings isn't usually enough for a successful prosecution. Nonetheless, the actual act ...
Stag's ban - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 23:22:32
Hey y'all, So, as you may know last year's "member of the year" was just banned. I want to give a bit of context here as to why, but also use this as an opportunity to discuss the rules...
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 22:51:25
Stag, I'm on my way to the site database to ban you right now for bullying (towards 3 members) and trolling (in this thread, by your own admission). You know where to reach me if you ever want to apol...
Edeb8 turns 2 - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 22:28:48
Our second birthday is coming up. Who's ready to party?
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 22:26:43
See, here's the issue. All along, you've been trying to use this entire thread to bully me. As you've been doing for months. I can't remember the last thread we both participated in where you didn't l...
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 19:33:22
Follow up the personal attack with "oh, I knew I was wrong the whole time". Classic.
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 19:30:47
I generally find that when somebody feels the need to respond to logic with a personal attack, that's when they're really starting to get desperate.
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 19:25:17
No, I was pointing out that your post before this one had a logical error in it that essentially did amount to a concession. What you said was: "The most vein person would definitely take a ...
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 05:41:47
Well since what I'm pointing out is that you're not an intellectual, thanks for conceding the point.
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 04:28:31
And only the least intellectual would: a) not know the difference between spelling and grammar, and b) continue to make the same mistake in a reply post, even though they themselves admit its a mi...
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 02:42:33
And you can't even spell vain right multiple times, so you fail half the criteria in my book. :)
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 01:22:03
Want to debate that Carthage would have gained increasing power had it not challenged Rome?
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-19 21:59:44
Xenophon shared the history of his times. Saying Xenophon was a mere statesman is like saying Thucydides was a mere general. In fact Xenophon is a very useful source because he essentially covers most...
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-19 15:28:18
Thucydides is ok IMO. It's Xenophon that you really need to avoid.
Quick tip of the moment - Posted by admin 2015-10-18 14:56:40
General edeb8 PSA: if you've had or see a good debate around edeb8, and please click the "thumbs up" icon on the top right of the page, just below the facebook logo. This already helps ...
Scenario: Mount Fuji Eruption - Posted by admin 2015-10-18 01:38:39
It's not about location, it's about lahar paths. They're the biggest real danger. This is where the Japanese government scientists say the lahars will flow, and ash will fall: https://upload...
Scenario: Mount Fuji Eruption - Posted by admin 2015-10-18 00:56:38
Moreover, eruptions are probably the single most predictable disaster in this day and age.
Scenario: Mount Fuji Eruption - Posted by admin 2015-10-18 00:55:21
Nope. That's not how eruptions work. That would be like saying the next time Mt St Helens erupts, the whole West Coast will be destroyed.
Scenario: Mount Fuji Eruption - Posted by admin 2015-10-17 06:05:31
Parts of Japan would evacuate a bit. Afterwards life would go on as normal.
International Betting Market - Posted by admin 2015-10-16 14:11:22
Really? How strange. Land of the free makes online gambling illegal. Has anyone sued the various lotteries over this yet? Or the stock markets?
International Betting Market - Posted by admin 2015-10-16 13:51:31
Why would it be illegal for Americans to participate?
International Betting Market - Posted by admin 2015-10-16 05:33:10
Really? Why?
Palestinian Explusion from Israel - Posted by admin 2015-10-15 01:52:57
I think Jordan views Palestinians more as a liability. I think in this respect, they sympathize with Israel more than anyone.
#DemDebate Thread - Posted by admin 2015-10-15 01:51:41
Yeah, but I think in terms of their debate quality, the two are roughly on par. If anything the larger field of republicans makes it harder to stand out in those debates on particular issues.
Palestinian Explusion from Israel - Posted by admin 2015-10-15 00:53:41
More land, no. More people, yes.
#DemDebate Thread - Posted by admin 2015-10-15 00:53:10
I think the great counterpoint is probably Obama.
#DemDebate Thread - Posted by admin 2015-10-15 00:51:27
I answered my views on the debate performances of democrats in the post immediately before. I need to clarify once again that I'm simply scoring them on how *well* they did in the debates specifi...
Distribution of Wealth - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 17:59:43
I think money is a particular poor unit when it comes to production. Progress is a better indicator, but practically impossible to quantify objectively. In my view, you can't share stores of valu...
#DemDebate Thread - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 17:23:35
Ultimately I feel like most people will judge these debates on who a) doesn't screw up in a way that's easy for the media to mock, and b) has a policy that is most appealing to voters. And I think tha...
#DemDebate Thread - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 17:20:12
I have a two-sided view on this. If we see debates as a form of political entertainment, then Trump has won this entire thing already. He's hands-down been the most entertaining character in any ...
#DemDebate Thread - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 17:11:15
My views: Clinton - solid performance, well rehearsed, a little shaky on rebuttal, 8/10 Sanders - impassioned, direct, occasionally unresponsive, 8/10 Webb - arrogant, alternative, did well t...
Distribution of Wealth - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 17:07:02
It's the net value of finished measurable goods and services produced in a year. That's a massive distinction in economic terms.
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 12:21:06
You do not want them to have independence. Actually I said the exact opposite. I think they should have independence, even though that is not in their interest. You are aware that the most powe...
Palestinian Explusion from Israel - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 12:17:49
I think the biggest opponents of that would be Jordan themselves.
Distribution of Wealth - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 12:07:53
I have a far more important question. Why do you think GDP is a good measure of wealth?
Freedom of Navigation Operations - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 12:07:03
Of course, we all know how good the USA is at following international law...
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 06:15:08
Tibet is an autonomous region. That means all their taxes are only reinvested in that region. Of course, thanks to Chinese rule, resettlement into Tibet of Han etc is rampant, but the thing about taxe...
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 04:04:23
No. For one, saying it's "pretty much fact" that all of a class of people believe in exactly the same mindset is insane. It would be like me judging all Americans on the basis that some of t...
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 03:09:13
That said, I would support self-determination as a stronger moral value than "what's best for them", in the same way as I uphold democracy over what's best for me.
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 03:08:06
I, for one, think they're better off in most respects under China. The only objective issues are a loss of culture, which has already been mostly mitigated by the Tibetians themselves and doesn't...
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 03:05:48
If you claim you're the least biased, why are you making subjective statements like claiming most Palestinians have "probably" thrown a rock at Israel? This is Orwellianism at its fines...
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 03:04:13
Nah, the world's less fragmented than it used to be.
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 02:15:09
I think it's a pretty well established fact that most of them want independance.
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 02:11:22
Figured this is a place America has less of a vested interest in than Israel, so it might be somewhat easier to discuss. Do you think Tibet should be, well, not part of China?
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 02:08:50
You can consider my speech what you want. I alone can say what my speech is. If you think this is some slogan fest, well, those are your thoughts. But that doesn't mean I am speaking in slogans. What ...
Palestinian Explusion from Israel - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 02:01:09
Why? Would you prefer threads about Tibet?
Palestinian Explusion from Israel - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 02:00:39
So, yeah, I'm a fan of Arab nations playing by the rules. And it would be unfair if the Israelis were the only ones playing by those rules. But they aren't is my point. They're a state moulded by viol...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 01:30:38
Naturally, I don't want to debate this here. I want to do it in an actual debate. I don't speak in slogans. I speak my mind. Much like you and everyone else does. I communicate my ideas in whatev...
Palestinian Explusion from Israel - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 01:19:48
So, first of all, I think in most of these cases the history is rather relevant. The last person with an active policy of homogenizing his populating - that is, kicking out anyone of another culture a...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-12 11:26:17
So, a few points here. First. The notion that not being American in any way reduces my opinion on the matter is, at best, cultural arrogance. At worst, it's outright degradation in the name of na...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-12 09:01:54
I'm rather like nzlockie on this too. There's a nation out there that collectively fears so much for its own security, that insecurity has become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Discussion: proactive ban notices - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 03:19:31
Yip, possible. Among countless other things. I can assure you that you haven't been flagged - you would have been banned already. Numerous people already have. I've had at least 5 emails so far f...
Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 03:14:45
The US became rich on the basis of Keynesian policies, including taking personal advice from Keynes himself, to end the Great Depression. This began a postwar boom that ran through the 50s. It wasn't ...
Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 02:58:13
the economy is good at sorting itself out There is literally no academic backing to this argument. Neoclassical economics is a pure fantasy.
Discussion: proactive ban notices - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 02:55:21
Yes, it is provided in all the messages. Also, I have the "allow external email" feature enabled on my account.
Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 02:29:06
Would you like a debate on this?
Discussion: proactive ban notices - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 02:26:54
You'd get a message saying something like "Your account has been flagged for multi-accounting... blah blah blah... please explain yourself within 12 hours or you will be banned..." You'...
Discussion: proactive ban notices - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 02:06:13
Well, if you are notified, let me know and I'll take that as a reasonable excuse in your case.
Discussion: proactive ban notices - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 00:40:56
No. If you forget your information you must use the forgot password feature, or if that is not enough, contact me directly.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 23:30:10
Do you believe there should be laws against murder?
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 23:22:38
Democracy is a government by the people - all the people. Why compromise cannot be just is beyond me.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 23:18:49
Cowboys aren't heroes.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 23:13:59
I call that rhetoric a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 23:13:13
So do I. I call such a proposal "democracy".
Russia and al-Assad - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 23:12:06
Can you name some specifics regarding what policy changes you're talking about? Blowing ANYONE'S brains out could hypothetically achieve those aims. Heck, you might as well wipe out humanity to p...
Russia and al-Assad - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 21:15:48
In my view, anyone who mentions "blowing someone's brains out" as an excuse for war, death, destruction and desecration of Syria is making an emotional response and therefore should not be t...
Russia and al-Assad - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 21:13:50
Sure, but they've been sending those since before the conflict. That's not a change in policy or an action. These airstrikes are a change. China almost always abstains because they are neutral. I...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 21:10:38
I don't support it as a SEPARATE RIGHT. I do support people having the ability to practice any religion within the bounds of reasonable law, but not because they have that right from religion. They ha...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 21:07:40
Well if you agree that "incapacitating weapons are ineffective," then surely a gun isn't a solution to your issue. For the record, the reason I said "in general" was exactly this c...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 21:00:01
No, I support free speech and limited free expression, just not any separate right for religion. People can be religious, but their right to be religious is not individually legally protected above an...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 05:12:47
I think it is reasonable that if guns are banned for all civilians, they should also be banned (in general) for the police.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 05:10:22
OK, you say that's obvious. I say then you're not advocating total religious freedoms, only freedom of religion for those religions that you agree are not far-fetched or illogical. But the law ca...
Russia and al-Assad - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 05:04:16
Russia took no action until about a month ago, when all of a sudden they started pledging lots of very specific support to al-Assad. By what I'm sure must be a happy coincidence, Russia started m...
Thesaurus icon - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 03:12:14
Me sucking at graphic design certainly does not help here!
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 11:19:15
And by the way, the term "culture of fear" does not imply that this culture is IRRATIONAL or that there's nothing to be afraid of. It simply means that generally, a population is predisposed...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 11:18:14
... be it based on a fact or not, it is still a culture of fear.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 11:08:36
So in your view, you cannot be afraid of something once that thing is normalized? Do you think people in the middle east are like "nah, we're not afraid of bombings, they happen all the time...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 10:38:11
So then there IS a culture of fear. You're afraid somebody will hurt you. NZ may have only had one mass shooting (the Aramoana Massacre), but this doesn't mean we don't have unsafe neighbourhoods...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 10:24:19
You reject it, and here we have Stag in this very same thread lecturing me on how we in New Zealand don't know what it's like to have so many neighbourhoods you can be easily killed in around the plac...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 02:24:06
Said armed individual is incapacitated though. You can't fire a gun while you're being electrocuted. Shortbows aren't powerful enough. Doing that is illegal in New Zealand. As is the use of poiso...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 02:13:36
High-powered bows with a gigantic draw strength can also work.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 02:10:53
A bullet that is designed to incapacitate makes any kind of gun response useless. Even a taser is effective at bringing down a person with a firearm. Police have used them here before.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 01:07:19
How common are non-lethal guns in America? Here in New Zealand they're basically only used by shooting clubs, because by law when hunting you must use a really high-powered weapon (we don't like the a...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 00:58:21
OK. Say you have a gun, and I shoot you before you even see me. What use was your gun?
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 00:37:03
The rhetoric is important. I think a lot of the gun lobby in the US uses that kind of language as a marketing gimmick, to help people feel "safe" when they hold a gun. In America, holding on...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 00:26:29
Armor, shields, walls etc are defenses. Guns are a weapon. You can't block a bullet flying at you using a gun. So you can't defend against guns using guns.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 00:24:05
People with firearms almost never get touched here in Detroit. That is absurd. Criminals in Detroit must be really irrationally scared of guns.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 00:22:23
That isn't an argument against gun control. I'd rather someone try to kick my ass than somebody try to shoot me.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-05 10:43:25
Or it might because because the setting allows for bad debating. It's hardly a victory if the other side refused to compete.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-05 09:35:43
You know me. I nowadays save my arguing for debates. People have a way of ignoring my points on forums.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-05 07:15:55
I feel like the fact some people would defend a policy at the expense of other's lives is one of the strongest moral arguments against gun control.
Discussion: proactive ban notices - Posted by admin 2015-10-04 23:30:17
So far they're working very well for multiaccounts. I'm starting to think I should implement them more broadly. People always get a notice period and a chance to appeal to me after all. Thoughts?
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-04 20:42:51
I think the proliferation of arms generally ends more lives than it saves. I for one just don't see the importance. And that the point where you say everyone, as opposed to most people again, the...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-04 18:44:56
To say that you "never said or implied" something that, quite literally, means exactly what I said it does, is extremely dishonest.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-04 02:27:24
Essential means you cannot do without it.
Thesaurus icon - Posted by admin 2015-10-03 22:57:12
My concern is a UX one - people might confuse that for "text formatting" like in GMail etc.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-03 22:45:00
a good father will teach his son self defense skills as young an age as possible, including with a firearm So you believe without a firearm a male cannot defend themselves?
Marriage - Posted by admin 2015-10-03 22:43:44
Today? Slightly more male-owned than female-owned.
Marriage - Posted by admin 2015-10-03 20:36:30
Depends on the culture in which it happens.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-03 20:32:54
Even if that were true, that's different from arming all 7-year-olds. And the suggestion that anyone who hasn't gone hunting by the age of 7 isn't "man" enough is misogynistic, myopic, and e...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 23:16:55
Again, regardless of label or circumstance means you want infants to have the right to bear arms. At that point the argument just becomes absurd.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 23:11:04
If your attacker shoots you, then you're disempowered. The only way you're empowered is if you shoot first. Of course shooting first makes you the attacker. Either way it's disempowering for the perso...
Thesaurus icon - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 23:04:34
1) Quite the contrary. The site terms specifically state: "You will not modify, publish, transmit, participate in the transfer or sale, create derivative works, or in any way exploit, any of the ...
Thesaurus icon - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 21:45:32
1) Don't have legal rights to use it 2) Not thesaurus.com (don't think they have an API anyway)
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 20:22:37
Fear implies something to be afraid of. In the USA, there's a culture of fear right now. Power is inherently asymmetric. The notion that if everyone had guns, power would not be asymmetric, is refuted...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 19:02:36
If so, then your own definition wouldn't solve the problem. You're actively promoting the safety of a few by allowing them to tyrannize others, but so long as that safety is not broadly ensured, you h...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 14:22:03
Well until then you hadn't said "everyone" either. Everyone should have a gun is an extreme position that I think is extremely difficult to rationally defend. My point is though, I don'...
Thesaurus icon - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 11:48:19
Can somebody please make / find a small 16x16 icon we can use to indicate "thesaurus" in the debate editor?
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 00:24:52
Just saying, I'd feel considerably less safe if mentally ill people are carrying firearms. Along with everyone else, regardless of how trigger happy they all are. If the culture shifts to one where it...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-01 23:33:40
My thoughts are with the families, with the injured students, and with their friends. Terrible is a good call.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-01 23:32:33
I have a sincere question that I've wanted to ask somebody like you for a while now. Suppose somebody would never shoot at anyone, even at the cost of their own lives. Do you think it would be go...
A JMK rant - Posted by admin 2015-10-01 03:12:57
Speak for yourself. If anything, I think demonstrating humility towards others would make me esteem and respect them more.
New Features - Posted by admin 2015-09-30 20:00:06
Chrome-based chat bugs should be mostly fixed now. Thanks to Stag for the report.
A JMK rant - Posted by admin 2015-09-30 19:35:41
You have a way of talking highly of yourself in relation to your friends. Previously you suggested on the shoutbox all depression is a sign of personal weakness and that you'd never find yourself in t...
Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2015-09-30 19:10:44
Sure, I'd defend that stance... In a debate XD
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-09-30 12:55:09
Wait, is this last comment thread turning into a serious topic? Woah.
A JMK rant - Posted by admin 2015-09-30 12:52:28
Well, I got what I expected lol. Small warning for profanity. Don't let it happen again.
Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2015-09-30 00:21:46
Based on what I've heard and read about the American minimum wage, I'd say it should be raised slightly.
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-09-30 00:17:48
To be fair, Hitler didn't cause World Destruction. At best he kinda might have attempted it.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-28 23:34:44
Because what you would be protecting there is a meaningless statement that can be twisted to mean anything. Other protections are quite specific and actually better maximize what you consider to ...
New Features - Posted by admin 2015-09-28 07:25:55
Might be useful to some people: Telling me something is "broke" isn't helpful to me. I literally cannot act on this information. Telling me what's wrong (for example "I can't ...
New Features - Posted by admin 2015-09-28 05:52:59
Hello Some new things that have been added: 1. Multiaccounting users are now automatically banned - some people will soon get notices to this effect if they haven't already 2. Users can no...
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-24 22:44:54
Not to mention further benefits they could be eligable for, like the Community Services Card, Child Disability Allowance etc etc, you get the point.
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-24 22:40:45
So you're saying 95% of people pay more for administering a system to reduce healthcare costs than those healthcare costs are actually reduced? Let's put that into perspective. Roughly 258,000 pe...
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-24 01:50:19
In fairness, New Zealand doesn't have free tertiary education (though we do a ton of stuff to make it affordable).
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 11:35:22
I can only answer for myself, but: 1. No 2. Because not all of the benefits of this policy are realized through taking money out of people's pockets, even with the assumption that a non-governm...
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 03:20:45
Sure
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 03:19:13
Sure.
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 03:12:57
It's your resolution from the list above! Just pick one :D
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 03:10:31
The United States should tighten gun laws. How about that one?
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 03:06:56
Up to you really.
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 02:06:40
Would you like to do one of them around now?
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 02:01:36
Not necessarily. For example the cheaper medication, in New Zealand, is the result of a sole-buyer system that we use for distributing many medicines known as Pharmac. Aside from the administrative co...
Alternate Form of Capitalism - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 00:58:26
It's been done before. Doesn't work.
Alternate Form of Capitalism - Posted by admin 2015-09-22 04:27:31
So it's a maximum price.
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-21 05:32:02
No, cost of living is decreasing in most aspects (actually in the first world the key thing decreasing is food). When you say healthcare costs are rising, what you're really referring to is that stand...
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-21 00:32:16
See, I disagree. I think a significant function of technology is that each individual can contribute a greater proportion of another person's needs. This has made welfarism relatively increasingly att...
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-20 22:22:08
That would only be true if one person cannot support more than one person through welfare. It also takes no account of population demographics.
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-20 06:59:31
How do you define effectiveness? In my personal view, yes, it is effective.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 17:41:50
No. I'm saying that there ought to be no right to religious practices at all, since doing so would be arbitrary and thus defeat the purpose of rights. If there is some other freedom a priori, then gov...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 16:29:52
The freedom to "have faith" is a necessary component of "free thought". It's the expression of those beliefs that we're more concerned about here. If you have an absolute freedom o...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 16:13:55
defined; limited; premised upon
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 13:19:28
And I disagree with that right, because I feel it is arbitrary if not qualified by other rights. For that matter, the same would be true of ANYTHING socially defined. If most countries had the right t...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 12:56:31
Well, for example, where's the qualifier in "Citizens should have the right to worship in public"? In the context I mean, there's no premise for that right. It simply exists. You asked ...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 07:32:18
You argued it when you argued religious freedom should be unqualified. I absolutely think religious freedom is contingent on other freedoms. And don't see the problem with that.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 01:07:47
But legally speaking, the question isn't one of your opinion, you were arguing that religious freedom was the basis of all other freedoms. I see it as the opposite - religious freedom only applies ins...
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 00:34:19
I don't think the makeup of the population has anything to do with it. Everyone in New Zealand agrees New Zealand is a former Maori country, despite hardly any of us actually being that.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 00:28:03
Well then it's still up to you to define the difference, and at the point where you're defining religion, you're agreeing essentially that not all religious expression is ok. A definition of consolida...
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-18 12:35:01
It's a fair point. I'm pretty sure at least half of all countries can justifiably call themselves former British colonies - I'm from one too. I tend to find most arguments presenting a justificat...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-18 03:50:55
Sure. By that definition, every single person who has ever killed somebody "in the name of God" is justified in doing so. We need to check religious freedom against common social values...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-18 00:00:50
Define "actual religion" though.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-17 09:55:12
Sure. But what if I "consolidate with God" by raping people? Religious freedom has the inherent problem that a "religion" is a socially constructed concept.
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-16 23:32:10
When my current death penalty debate is over, sure! I debate pretty much everything.
Kim Davis - Marriage - Posted by admin 2015-09-16 23:30:53
Damn, couldn't even be bothered to link the url, just the google redirect to the url. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/09/08/kim-davis-released-jail/71882274/
Windows 10 thread - Posted by admin 2015-09-16 23:30:10
It's not bad. I use the annotation feature to help me judge debates. I have, however, run into the >512 apps bug. That one's annoying.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-16 23:28:42
I'd oppose most of these as fundamental rights. For instance, say you have a religion where your form of "prayer" is to kill someone. I'd oppose people of that religion "praying".
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-16 12:26:17
Reposted for the lazy: The topics are in random order, with my preferred side at the end in (parentheses). They are as follows: Resolved: A just society ought not use the death penalty as a ...
I'm off to a chess tournament today - Posted by admin 2015-09-13 03:48:44
Me on my way to drawing game 4: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KLAHI2fIf_g/VfTr-lgddVI/AAAAAAAADmA/gu713Thny8Y/s720-Ic42/P9120043.JPG
I'm off to a chess tournament today - Posted by admin 2015-09-12 05:23:54
2 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses. Totally fair result I suppose :)
I'm off to a chess tournament today - Posted by admin 2015-09-11 16:01:45
Wish me luck gang. 3 former NZ champions will be there for the prestigious title of "Kapiti Rapid Chess Champion". Will post how I got on tonight. Maybe include some games I've played. ...
WODC 2015 - Edeb8 thrashed - Posted by admin 2015-09-10 08:37:05
The 5 regular rounds of the WODC have now finished, with Zaradi's debate just ending its voting period. While last year Edeb8 just nudged ahead in the last moment, this year DDO was fairly dominant. ...
500 members! - Posted by admin 2015-09-06 03:09:56
Who are the 5?
500 members! - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 11:24:59
Welcome to our 500th member, http://www.edeb8.com/profile/Austine+Justine+Rivera Celebrate a big milestone in edeb8 history here. http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/500-members-and-growing-d...
Dependency and Sycophancy - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:53:48
States are a human institution, and therefore have no right to abrogate human rights. Slavery is defined specifically by the condition of forced labor for a particular employer, especially with l...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:40:56
Mind you, we'd have to go to the more complex version of the formula due to the sample size.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:39:54
Merely having a sample size of 1000 does not make it inaccurate is the point. Margin of error calculations do prove that much. Oh my god, now you revert the definition, which shows that you don't...
Dependency and Sycophancy - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:32:29
I don't think a legitimate state does take them away, in aggregate. That is the function of a social contract. Contractual law - another thing which, like basic statistics, you've apparently never stu...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:30:29
Also, why do I have to explain this stuff to anyone who isn't 13?
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:29:36
Note, it's not about perfect surveying, but perfect randomness. As opposed to seeded randomness.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:28:42
Then you were rambling about something completely off topic. No, I wasn't. Margin of error is a completely warranted reply to calling the statistic baseless or useless. So if I perfectly surve...
Dependency and Sycophancy - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:25:39
In response to this post: No From the fact I am human. Those are human rights. The question of how is not relevant. I don't care how. In response to your other post: Because the benefits ...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:16:26
The point of all this is - the margin of error in that statistic was nowhere near 100%. You were wrong about that, and ought to admit it.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:15:46
Also the fact that you thought margin of error dealt with the validity of the survey just shows that you don't know what the hell you are talking about. It does deal with it. It doesn't ensure accu...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:13:35
Then I'd take the challenge, show him a calculator, and reap the judgments in my favor.
Dependency and Sycophancy - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:12:50
You're making plenty of statements. Not points. People are drawn to a state for the promotion of liberty and equality, among other reasons. I am entitled to certain things for the insurance of ...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:09:19
Would you like to debate that a random sample is perfectly representative? I'd imagine you'd think it's an easy win (because you think a perfect representation precludes a sample, without understandin...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:07:51
And you're the one who says you always respond to my points in full? Seesh. I've got to remember this comeback. I said your survey was incredibly unreliable, and you gave me a margin of error sta...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:03:49
Because a random sample is inherently perfectly representative. Don't tell me you don't know the statistical definition of those things either.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:02:45
I'M NOT. YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY THE MARGIN OF ERROR CALCULATED BY USA TODAY WAS WRONG. Do you agree their stat had a 3% margin of error? Note that this does not mean it is in any way accurate.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:01:28
No I didn't. You tried telling me the margin of error was wrong on my stat. I simply showed that USA Today had calculated it correctly.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:00:42
Do you know what a random sample is? Do you know how a random sample of 1000 people differs from a regular sample of 1000 people?
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:59:45
NO. The margin of error is the range of values above and below a statistic at a confidence interval. HOW THE HELL DO PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET NOT KNOW THIS?
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:58:33
It would be. Except I know full well that I'm right. All you've done is tell me to find people to tell me I'm wrong. Not only is that a poor argument. NOBODY EXCEPT YOU WOULD. A margin ...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:56:47
It told me that a random sampling of 1000 people in 315 million has a critical t-value margin of error of 4%, and a (more accurate) z-value margin of error of 3%. Yes. Just like EVERYONE ELSE. ...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:52:47
In addition, Google isn't always right. I know this from books, scholarly articles, and teaching from top statistics researchers/professors. The margin of error is approximately 3%, there's no way aro...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:50:44
look up the truth using google. First result: http://stattrek.com/estimation/margin-of-error.aspx?Tutorial=AP Agrees with my formula (uses a different arrangement though, my version is easier)....
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:41:40
I haven't been shouting. You've been begging me to respond to your various inane ramblings about absolute freedom, and I have. In this case you're attacking one of my stats because you couldn't back u...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:39:31
Please, enlighten us as to how to properly calculate a margin of error off a univariate statistic in a random sample. I got an A in my university statistics paper - I don't think they usually give tho...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:31:48
there is no point in debating the blatantly obvious Says the person who derides me in the other thread for refusing to engage with him. This IS blatantly obvious if you understand some basic facts ...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:26:56
1000 randomly sampled people out of 315 million people are going to provide an accurate statistic for the total population 97% of the time Also, this demonstrates that you don't know the statistical...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:24:18
Would you like to debate that accurate statistical inference exists outside of my reality? Also, are you sure you're not a 13 year old with who's never heard of a t-test in their life?
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 08:05:42
Also, this requires that the sample be TRULY random, which frankly almost no samples are. By I wouldn't fault them on that without specific evidence.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 08:04:14
Actually I kinda figure I'd better show the working for anyone who hasn't done stats before. Margins of error are generally derived from something called a confidence interval. The maths is a bit...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 07:46:39
Have you ever taken an entry-level statistics paper? Seriously? Or are you disputing the statistical formula for a margin of error?
Dependency and Sycophancy - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 07:44:59
Conservatives back those things now, but it was the progressives of the past who led the change. Indeed progressives are STILL not satisfied with gender and racial equality, and I'll bet the conservat...
Dependency and Sycophancy - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 04:21:37
In their classical formulation, you're more or less right about natural rights. I think you and John Stuart Mill would have had a lot in common. The problem is, those people were fallible. Your o...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 04:16:07
Then challenge me to a debate and don't forfeit for once.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 04:15:42
No, it comes from USA Today. It was reprinted on that website. 1000 randomly sampled people given a country of 315 million IS approximately a 3% margin of error. That's basic statistics. In gener...
Predictions for the next 20 years - Posted by admin 2015-09-04 16:24:48
Edeb8 will be the #1 debate site on the internet
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-04 16:19:21
I hope you can back up your "majority of the world" stat. In the USA, it's roughly 50-50 support. http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/USA-Today-Gun-control-support.png ...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-04 15:59:30
your only participation in threads is demeaning the views and ideals in a non intellectual manner. I hope you don't mean to suggest that you've never been guilty of this either.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-04 03:38:36
Can confirm, usernames must have at least 4 letters in them.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 13:11:07
My google search: https://www.google.co.nz/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=20+people+%22on+death+row%22+for+apostasy+in+iran As you can see, none of this st...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 13:07:35
I usually find the people who brag about their IQ are just insecure jerks who could recognize some patterns one time. I refuse IQ tests for that reason. I wonder what people "accredit" ...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 13:00:23
Really? Please, name me these people who are on death row. Since you say you've seen the court records I'm sure you could tell me this. I do not support this kind of law, no. All I'm saying is th...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:54:23
Imagine saying that to Einstein. "I am too stupid to understand your explanation of general relativity, therefore you must not know anything about general relativity."
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:52:57
It has been on the news numerous times of Iranian Muslims being executed and killed for leaving their faith. Name one other than Youcef Nadarkhani (who was the person whose conviction was overturned...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:49:00
Well if you define a state in a positivist framework then a state is incompatible with something like human rights, isn't it? Qn 1. I think that would depend on the social contract, and I would h...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:40:30
No, it has a policy of persecuting ex-muslims. That is not true. The only time such a case has happened in the past 2 decades, the person was freed on appeal. In a decision I disagree with mind y...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:37:20
The group rules over themselves, because society IS the state by another name when that society has a social contract in place. The court would determine whether that positive action was recogniz...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:32:14
Again, I've proposed a naturalist framework, and you're arguing against a positivist one without listening to me. It's pretty stupid.
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:30:33
Well then I oppose such states. I only recognize organized political groups that are formal representations of a social contract which defines mutually forfeited rights.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:29:05
I agree they do so in secret. I do not agree that the ban on this is extrajudicial. The MAXIMUM penalty is death. It is not the only option judges have.
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:26:54
You didn't, you consented via the positive action of being a member of that society.
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:26:24
... and I disagree with abuses of power. Society working together = state. To me there is no distinction.
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:25:09
Yes I have, four times. I don't feel obligated to. My answer each time was that you consent by being a member of that society.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:22:09
No they wouldn't because conversion is illegal for a muslim in the civil law, and in the constitution.
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 11:33:05
What if I had my own state of 10 people, and you were born into it? We vote that we don't like you and you should be executed. Still don't think that is tyranny? I find this particularly funny. ...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 11:29:47
We are not arguing about societies, but the authoritative bodies that preside over societies known as the state. I don't believe in authoritative bodies presiding over societies. I believe in mutual...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 11:25:17
Were you referring to this? Based on numerous interviews with Iranian converts to Christianity, lawyers, activists, and journalists... That's the only mention of any interviews your source h...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 06:12:32
Did you mean to say that if I break the law, then society is free to take away my liberties? Right now, you are free from compulsion by society. Sure many in society would love to lock you up, but i...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 05:32:10
America doesn't allow people who don't pledge allegiance to the USA to be president either. Doesn't prevent it from being democratic in its own way. Same with Iran. If you're not pro-Iran, Iran won't ...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 17:45:39
I totally agree that you are not endowed to anyone's government. You are free to break the law. All you have to do is accept that society will then be free to remove the freedom of not coercing you if...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 17:20:30
I deviate with a lot of liberal leaders and their positions. Heck, I cannot think of another major liberal leader in the world today who argues nations ought to abolish their militaries. Not even the ...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 08:54:18
You didn't do nothing. You followed the law, thereby forfeiting your rights in exchange for enjoying the benefits of living in a state. When you cease to follow the law by claiming back those rights, ...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 08:37:18
I make my own judgments, thank you very much. The fact that I'm enough of a critical thinker to reject your viewpoints here should be enough to prove this belief. I completely agree that the Baha...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 06:03:31
You know how you keep telling me to read a book on anarchism? You need to read a book on contract law. The only thing that courts have ruled in common law as being never a valid form of acceptance to ...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 05:50:07
What's all this "Death to Jews! Death to America!" propaganda that the Ayatollah was shouting about? The only place I've heard that fearmongering is in American media. In interviews and s...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 05:08:38
A signature is only an indication of acceptance to a contract. You don't need to physically sign a contract to agree to it. This is basic contract law stuff. You're NOT being punished for disagre...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 04:58:43
Yes but the supreme court has already established that the US constitution should be interpreted as a living document, such that its meaning can adapt with time. As such what constitutes an "unco...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 04:37:08
Your punishment would be that you would not have the benefits of belonging to the state. Anyone could do with you whatever they pleased since you have forfeited your natural right, including the state...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 04:18:19
I don't. I believe that people do so of their own accord and that this can be conceived of as a state. Their collective decision can be conceived of as a contract, one that is of a social nature. Thei...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 00:04:32
No, it's about leading without force, vs leading with force. At least to you, since I believe leadership itself is an exercise in force.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-30 23:59:08
Wait a second. The supreme court of the USA can say that any law of the US government is unconstitutional. Does that make them more powerful than the rest? No. In fact the ayatollah is more accou...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-30 15:09:19
People said the same thing about Russia and the USA during the cold war.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-30 15:08:25
"Most powerful man" is arguable. Regardless if you're referring to the ayatollah, who is the head of the Islamic branch of the judiciary (not a lawmaker as he is often fallaciously painted b...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-30 04:22:18
And by the way, I don't mean to legitimize that suppression, I just feel like it shouldn't be misrepresented. It's not "Iran is evil" or "Islam is evil".
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-30 04:19:15
Lol, not at all. Do they not have an elected government? I think you'll find they have an elected government. The state has an active policy of persecuting non-muslims. Again, the situation i...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-29 18:53:11
Sure, but these are YOUR interpretations of these passages. And you're coupling that with YOUR interpretation of the Qu'ran. All I'm saying is that, some people will interpret the bible differently. A...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-29 17:50:57
But hang on, it's irrelevant whether those verses are being interpreted CORRECTLY or not by the Catholics. All that would prove is that catholics twist scripture... a moderate muslim would say an extr...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-29 16:44:25
If you are saying that people should stop clearly twisting Scripture to justify their violence, then I totally agree. Funnily enough, moderate muslims say *exactly* the same thing. And where yo...
New Members Thread: Welcome to EDEB8.com! - Posted by admin 2015-08-28 10:46:27
Let's not forget that this thread still exists
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-08-28 08:21:18
Don't say I didn't warn ya
The next 24 hours or so... - Posted by admin 2015-08-28 00:22:44
... rebump
The next 24 hours or so... - Posted by admin 2015-08-28 00:05:49
... I know people love venting about DDO on this site, but this post is very important. So. Bump.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-08-28 00:02:50
Actually Darwin's second book specifically refuted the notion that there are multiple human races. In fact he spent the entire book proving it. Of course it wasn't definitively proven until melanin wa...
The next 24 hours or so... - Posted by admin 2015-08-27 23:59:44
... are set aside for feature updates. You may find small parts of the site break here and there for a short while. Please be patient.
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-08-27 03:07:52
Or that of their allies, I might add.
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-08-27 03:07:30
I think some countries are unique cases. The US is one of them. Ultimately the third world would be the most affected, because many of those nations contain rebel groups that would be unwilling t...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 10:29:51
Sure, here's how I'd summarize it. Logic requires a basis. The best explanation for that basis is found in the Christian God. Therefore it is most likely that the Christian God exists.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 06:00:42
Well, I for one can understand arguments that have errors in them, much like how when I read code that has a bug in it, I can still understand what the code was probably meant to do or how it was supp...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 05:57:47
I think you two should have a debate on this one day.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 05:56:58
Just because you believe an argument is wrong doesn't mean you can't grasp or understand it.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 04:51:30
I did grasp it, I just distracted the judges with other arguments XD
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 04:50:42
Blanks
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 01:06:04
Nu get Jerry
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 00:00:14
na na na
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 23:57:51
If this continues much longer, I'll probably deem it to move on to trolling territory. I think this is a clear case where your point has been made, and if you're not willing to provide original info t...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 03:14:23
I consider him to be such. That's not to say somebody else can consider him to not be. It's subjective. But regardless Paul is an authority on Christianity, just one you happen to disagree with. And t...
The hypocrisy of debate.org - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 03:00:11
The site already does that, but if there's a post in between that confuses it.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:59:16
No, your point was this: Why is Paul an unquestionable authority on Christianity? Because the pope put his writings in the bible? I'm saying that it wasn't just because the pope put him ther...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:53:16
Sure, but Paul was not the reason for the schism. The eastern church and the western church both take his writings as just as important as, say, Luke or John.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:47:09
I have to disagree there. The great schism between eastern and western traditions happened some hundreds of years later - the Orthodox church etc have no problem with Paul. It's not just a western thi...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:40:53
And still he was the single person responsible for framing the first core philosophy of a new religion, distinct from Judaism.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:38:38
By saying you're one of the 1% who can govern themselves, you're moralizing too, just less forcefully.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:36:33
I think I can answer this: he was primarily responsible for the invention of Christianity as its own religion.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:35:31
You collect evidence. The more evidence has been collected and validated, the more you believe in it. For example, you may walk near a fire, and feel warm. You can repeat the experiment, do correlatio...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:28:51
Anyone remember when this thread was about Islam?
The hypocrisy of debate.org - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:27:07
Because you're reloading the "post" page that you loaded to post that message. Don't worry, it's on the feature request tracker already to have some kind of redirection to avoid that is...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:25:33
I think knowledge acquired, even if based on faulty premises, is more convincing than faith without basis. Evidence is the standard for the confirmation of theory, not belief. To me it's a basic ...
The hypocrisy of debate.org - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:12:26
Boy, where have I heard this before... lol...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:11:34
In fairness, I don't exactly see many sources from you either in this thread.
The hypocrisy of debate.org - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:08:25
I think everyone on edeb8 already knows this on some level.
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-08-24 04:49:28
Unsigh...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-24 04:48:30
I'm starting to think the word "christian" is nowadays too vague to be meaningful.
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-08-23 15:10:42
If this thread remains unlocked until 2016, I will be most impressed.
This place seems useless? - Posted by admin 2015-08-23 15:09:48
One day people probably will
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-23 14:57:19
Friday is looking very likely at this point for a rollout day.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-23 10:23:51
I'd debate the topic. :D
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-21 23:23:30
You make some good points. Thanks. Some of them are more like new features for the tracker than design things though.
Wikipedia as a source - Posted by admin 2015-08-20 23:25:15
See, even if that were true about academics, the point about journals is that they have an extremely rigorous peer review process, some journals more so than others. This being the whole point of an a...
Wikipedia as a source - Posted by admin 2015-08-20 12:52:18
An academic journal is not written by journalists.
Wikipedia as a source - Posted by admin 2015-08-20 10:46:45
As a single source of information, I'd assume that could well be right. However, it doesn't hold a candle to paid journal indexes. And failing that, I'd say the free search on Google Scholar is probab...
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-20 04:17:02
I'll think about it.
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-20 03:54:54
Probably changing it back to white. Unless better ideas come up.
WODC 2015 - Round 5 - Posted by admin 2015-08-19 03:18:22
Also, thanks is also due to whiteflame for all the rounds.
WODC 2015 - Round 5 - Posted by admin 2015-08-19 03:17:43
Will PM you
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 13:15:12
Told you it does. Please take it on authority that a bolder frame would be terrible. Shading boxes MIGHT work for the homepage, but not for every other page.
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 13:12:25
Check it now.
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 13:11:09
I'll show you how it looks. One sec...
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 13:01:10
Well I can't make it too dark either, and in between is grey. It's like I can't win.
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 12:57:33
... and about the white background?
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 05:45:59
After some experimentation right now, the background does need to be darker than the boxes unfortunately. Otherwise it's VERY hard to see where the boxes are, or else if I darken the boxes they become...
Possible rule update - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 05:32:06
Yeah, I doubt it's bots. People are desperate in the digital marketing world though.
Possible rule update - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 05:25:54
Recently there have been a number of members making accounts strictly for commercial advertising and link farming. Examples would be profiles like @JulieGreen . Then later I discover they're using oth...
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 05:16:18
Remember how long we argued before we settled on that greyish background?
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 05:05:10
This is for the picture on the homepage at the top for non-logged-in users? I've never been too comfortable with any one picture honestly. It's a valid point you make.
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 04:27:05
New debate and forum styles, too.
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 04:20:01
@Hello guinea pigs. I'd like to collect more feedback on the open beta of http://alttest.edeb8.com/ Known issues: > Teal color doesn't work and is replaced with blue > Notification...
WODC 2015 - Round 5 - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 03:18:41
The final home stretch! This is the last round before the semi-finals. Should be exciting. Theme for this round: religion Topics: This House believes that countries should make the pope pe...
War crimes - Posted by admin 2015-08-12 12:09:16
Ben Carson is an important authority on this topic? Isn't he that random-as hopeful for the GOP nomination in the US presidential race who's particularly famous for his lack of knowledge on forei...
Post History - Posted by admin 2015-08-10 04:17:43
This is a good feature request. It would probably be something to add to the search page. Can you add it to the feature requests tracker please?
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 07:56:36
I don't accept the premise that it is unjust. If there was some statistically validated superior method for quickly assessing risk, then insurance companies would have every incentive to switch to it,...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 07:44:16
Actually, gender does affect risk-taking behaviors. They're not measuring who can drive the safest, they're measuring what risks those people are likely to take. It is broad, but it isn't the ONLY thi...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 07:29:19
And that's why the companies have that incentive to narrow the demographic profile as far as they can. And they do. In this case, female teen drivers. The older you get, the more the price gap narrows...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 07:15:04
It's no different for home insurance than life or vehicle insurance. An insurance company assesses the risk factors and calculates what they expect to pay out and when. That applies when looking at th...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 06:57:03
It can, but this clearly isn't discrimination. If you were running a business painting houses for people, you wouldn't simply charge one price for any home. You'd charge based on how much work yo...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 06:46:34
Nothing is also worse than ANYTHING positive, but that logically doesn't imply anything positive is bad. You could say nothing is worse than achieving world peace, or nothing is worse than fighting po...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 05:46:20
That's the nature of buying ANYTHING based on a future risk. If you buy bets on horses, you'll note that horses are priced differently - the gambling people are hedging against the risk of particular ...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 05:43:37
Nothing isn't the only thing that's worse. Your turn of phrase isn't really logically saying what you think it's saying.
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 02:10:03
What's wrong is that it's more unfair. Here you're not dealing with exceptions, here you're penalizing one group for the actions of another group.
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 02:06:30
This is true. I don't drive so I'm largely going off what I pick up from my dad's policy work at the AA.
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 02:05:39
That might be because you're an exception. Nobody's gonna admit to their agency "I intend to drive drunk", so the agency has to make an educated guess on who they trust. To do that, they use...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 01:52:54
Nothing at all is significantly worse at predicting risk than demography. Driver training score is equally misleading, because a young person is unlikely to take the test drunk. However, young ma...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 01:19:02
Insurance companies charge premiums on the basis of risk. Demographics may not be a perfect way to assess risk, but what else? I think demography is fair enough in this instance.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-08-02 05:58:03
Now who's ignoring science and appealing to subjectivity?
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-08-02 04:05:44
I have indeed previously admitted that I am wrong. The 3 kinds of snail have far bigger differences than a slightly different skin color. Not all asians have the same skin color. Not all afr...
Windows 10 thread - Posted by admin 2015-08-02 03:50:27
I'm pretty sure that hasn't been released yet.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-08-02 03:48:27
... sure... and then scientists realized they were wrong about 50 years later... and all that happened about 200 years ago...
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-08-01 19:06:09
Really? Because you cited a grand total of zero scientists who agreed with you. Some "annihilation".
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-08-01 15:09:09
Hmm... didn't we debate this one time and I annihilated you so bad you couldn't think of a comeback before your time ran out?
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-08-01 04:15:53
I see Blumenbach's wacky theories are still alive and well in your heart :) We will do our debate, Krazy and nzlockie are lined up to challenge me first though.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-31 03:58:57
"Real" reggae sounds even more corny. What makes that "real" and NZ reggae not "real"?
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-31 03:40:15
It doesn't matter. What you should be allowed to do can be very different from what you should do, as well.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-31 03:36:06
FYI, New Zealand has a huge reggae scene.
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 20:22:41
There is quite often a difference between what people are able to do, allowed to do, and/or should do.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 20:13:24
Maybe a better way to phrase my query would have been "what exactly is the resolution?"
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 19:11:04
To my knowledge, neither of those was used in a major motion picture, disqualifying them from my example. I was trying to illustrate a very particular distinction.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 19:08:24
How would such a debate work?
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 10:42:39
See, that's why I don't like that name. Sometimes it takes influence from heavy metal or rock, but "epic" generally is too general. Maybe an example would clarify. Example of film/trail...
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 09:28:24
I realize that, and I was answering your point. To put what I was saying more briefly: not all film/trailer music is used in a film/trailer, and not all music in films meets the genre of film/trailer ...
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 09:17:11
That's like saying rock isn't a genre. There's certain themes that groups like Two Steps From Hell, Audiomachine etc routinely integrate. And film music is similar, John Williams, Hans Zimmer etc, all...
Windows 10 thread - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 09:13:51
... Just saying, Edge reading view is awesome for reading debates. Handles it a lot better than firefox's, as firefox seems intent on showing the comments for some weird reason.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 09:08:33
Trailer and film music for me! Sometimes a bit of classical, pop, rock, pop-rock etc.
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 09:07:02
They may be unjust obligations, but they are obligations all the same. Society and the government oblige us to follow them, and whether we choose to is another issue.
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 08:43:30
Two methods: 1) surround text with [ quote ] and [ /quote ], minus the spaces 2) Have the "Enable-Auto-Quoting" checkbox enabled, and copy/paste text into the box.
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 08:42:32
No, external obligations exist I think you'll find. I doubt any court of law would not convict a doctor because of this argument.
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 08:31:21
No. You said you were not aware, and I quote, "ANYONE" ... was supposed to do, and I quote again, "ANYTHING". But for that matter, doctors as individuals also are supposed to ...
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 08:26:06
You said before: I wasn't aware anyone was supposed to do anything I'm saying laws are examples of things we are supposed to do. Making you aware :)
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 08:12:12
In India the whole public service does. Even Modi. The point is sometimes people are supposed to do things. Doctors are usually bound at a minimum by their own oath, and more often than not by st...
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 08:02:32
I wasn't aware anyone was supposed to do anything Yeah, society has these things called laws nowadays, you may have heard of them.
WODC 2015 - Round 4 - Posted by admin 2015-07-29 11:07:29
Do well in the last 2 rounds, and your chance of breaking is pretty damn good. Especially since debatability has forfeited every round so far I believe.
WODC 2015 - Round 4 - Posted by admin 2015-07-29 02:07:08
Get ready to rumble! The 2015 World Online Debate Cup enters the penultimate round. This round the theme is something a bit different. THEME: Sports TOPICS: This House believes feminism sh...
Windows 10 thread - Posted by admin 2015-07-28 11:22:57
Let us know when/if you upgrade and generally have a yarn about computer stuff.
Moral Question - Posted by admin 2015-07-27 11:41:41
My memory is bad lol. Did it end in a Stag forfeit?
Moral Question - Posted by admin 2015-07-27 09:18:13
Drug control is another thing we should argue one day.
Moral Question - Posted by admin 2015-07-27 04:40:09
I'm a fairly liberal liberal. I strongly oppose drugs and am in favor of regulated, legalized prostitution. So I can confirm your point I guess haha.
Can Somebody Explain Groups to Me? - Posted by admin 2015-07-26 04:47:06
And me in case I need to moderate it. Yes.
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-25 11:31:49
Oh, right.
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-25 01:41:23
Also, what happened to your WODC debate from this round?
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-25 01:40:55
Watch your language.
WODC R3 Judging - Posted by admin 2015-07-25 00:12:36
The time for debating is over. The time for judging is at hand. This round we had two very exciting debates, one of which is finished and one which is almost finished and should be. Zaradi v TheJ...
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 12:37:40
I think a lot of our disagreement comes over this phrase, "new world order". The German word Hitler used is "Neuordnung", not "Neue weltordnung", which literally means &q...
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 11:30:44
Since you are giving me the smackdown though, I'll make a feature request right now. Woot! Okay, then somebody better tell me where all the debaters are. People come around here, it's just a ...
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 10:42:17
Everything else not so much. Then edeb8 is ample. I have an honest feeling that my ideas will benefit you as well. I don't. Put your actions where your mouth is. If your ideas are so great, p...
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 07:49:13
you have to provide an ample framework if you expect people to want to be involved in the site. So your argument is that edeb8 is not ample? you end up arguing it rather than taking it into con...
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 06:03:45
It is the most I care to do without administrative powers. Communities in general are built by member involvement, not zealous moderation. You are the administrator, the future of your site is ...
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 05:41:11
You have your timeline mixed up. Germany invaded than the allies declared war. Here's my timeline: Sep 1 1939 - Germany attempts to occupy its original part of Poland [Germany subsequently argues...
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 04:54:03
Sure. I'm doing the WODC right now. What are YOU doing to "liven up the site?" Heck, when's the last time you even finished a debate? Believe it or not, in the last 30 days, almost 2,00...
Problem - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 04:28:51
Since when were there good guys and bad guys in the world?
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-23 19:13:20
??? Him and the Boshleviks took the entire country from the Poles ??? No. At that stage war had already been declared by the allies AND the Germans. You've got your timeline mixed up. What, so...
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-23 12:41:15
Germany didn't invade Poland, they occupied Polish territories. Subtle difference. No, he planned on exterminating them Source? They were never fed well, and they were always being torture...
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-23 10:49:46
Funnily enough I seem to remember Germany didn't launch a full Polish invasion until after the allies declared war. In fact most allied countries officially declared war before Germany did. Hitler was...
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-23 08:25:11
In fairness, the rest of the world also gave Germany ample reasons to fight. Pretty much the only country who was really actively LOOKING for a war was Japan. I mean, if this is all about the treatmen...
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-23 08:22:04
All that makes the assumption that a military solution is the best solution. A coward hides behind a machine gun or a giant bomb. It takes more bravery to stand up to something like that unarmed, with...
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-22 19:49:35
I agree. We should honor WW2 German anti-war movements, sure. People do. Why then can't we honor American anti-war movements? Nobody praises the pacifists on the winning side. I feel like I don't...
Best Looking States in America? - Posted by admin 2015-07-22 19:43:00
In fairness, I once found myself in a "town" in the south island of New Zealand that appeared to consist of only a single ordinary house. So yeah, I'm sure there's examples even closer to ho...
Crap... - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 06:43:31
Sure, but these are executives. The Fordist production line doesn't exist in Japan or anywhere else. Hence the whole retirement fund thing. It's cheaper to mass produce a car than to individually pane...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 05:54:44
You just linked an article about the non-government WFP pledging food aid. Not confirmation it was ever delivered. AFAIK the only foreign officially "registered" NGO in North Korea is the ...
Political Coordinates - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 04:58:25
I think it's a bit unfair to compare him to a revolutionary leader. I'd agree with him being less authoritarian in his mindset, or at least the mindset of his policies, than Stalin or Mussolini... Cas...
Political Coordinates - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 04:19:52
He increased government power substantially over its people. I call that authoritarian.
Crap... - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 04:18:37
And where are those jobs now, oh great auto city? Mostly, outsourced to asia, and even the asians aren't doing the nitty gritty work. It's dem machines. It's not a proposal. It's something that I...
Political Coordinates - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:39:57
Hmmm... might add some to the list later. Thanks!
Political Coordinates - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:39:33
I agree George Bush was an authoritarian though.
Crap... - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:34:59
I don't necessarily see the problem with that. Unemployment is a good thing if it doesn't negatively affect wealth.
Crap... - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:33:44
Two things: 1. Movies are crap depictions of robot technology. People once said a future where robots made cars is scary as shit, because the auto industry used to employ millions. Now GM is basical...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:23:49
The partnership exists in the first place for 2 reasons: 1. China's foreign policy generally is to try to convince other nearby nations that they are not a threat (while simultaneously sometimes hav...
Crap... - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:09:54
No it doesn't have to come from anywhere. Money is just a confidence trick. If robots produced 100% of all production, there'd be nothing anti-capitalist about equal pay for everyone, or for that matt...
Crap... - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:02:39
The Amish already exist. Also, the Luddite movement died.
Crap... - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:01:27
Why do you see this as a problem? More efficient factors of production mean more goods means lower prices? If we see money as a billeting system for the distribution of wealth, the simple answer is to...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-19 16:48:31
And to put this into context, this is North Korea saying that the puppet south (of the USA) wishes to "launch a war" against them because they accused North Korea of planning a terrorist att...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-19 16:43:28
It's true that China has virtually open trade with North Korea, but North Korea simply has nothing China wants to buy. Hence why a few thousand corrupt North Korean officials with Chinese pals live ve...
Some bugs fixed, mostly... - Posted by admin 2015-07-19 02:34:41
New features: Retain Notifications Bugs fixed: Non-logged in feature request dropdowns "load more" on profile status boxes appearing incorrectly to non-logged-in users Secret De...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-18 14:11:46
Neither capitalism nor democracy have ever been proven to make a country richer. Trade, on the other hand, has. It makes logical sense too - when people cooperate, scarcity becomes less of a problem a...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-18 12:23:42
I think it's made North Korea artificially worse off and South Korea artificially better off. I don't think you can possibly make a case that North Korea is better off today than they would be if the ...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-18 10:48:22
See, if it wasn't for the Korean War, I don't think that situation would exist in Korea. Korea would be a unified communist state, and probably somewhat less hardline than it is now.
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-18 03:34:48
You don't need to. Both sides stand down their militaries, let Cyprus work it out.
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-18 03:34:08
You JUST said one of the issues was and foreign backing from a military power. So how about we put a stop to that?
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-18 03:31:51
Well then the obvious solution would be for foreign powers to quit intervening :D
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-18 03:22:12
I tend to disagree. I feel like war is unprofitable for all sides involved. This will MOST likely play out like in Spain, how Barcelona etc wants independence. Not gonna happen, a bunch of people...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-17 13:18:25
... or you could just not intervene and let it play out. That's always an option.
WODC2015 - Round 3 - Posted by admin 2015-07-10 17:34:51
It's not in your edeb8 messages?
WODC2015 - Round 3 - Posted by admin 2015-07-10 00:08:19
@TheJuniorVarsityNovice vs Zaradi FourTrouble vs shabshoral Wylted vs Kasmic UtherPenguin vs RXR. The Redneck vs debatability lannan13 vs That1User Stag - BYE Theme: Economics To...
WODC2015 - Ready for round 3? - Posted by admin 2015-07-09 06:46:27
We've had some interesting debates so far, but round 3 is usually where the really interesting matchups start to happen. Expected match-ups for the next round: TheJuniorVarsityNovice v Zaradi ...
All things New Cold War - Posted by admin 2015-07-08 04:59:24
Great! I wish more discussions would land on the forums and not the shoutbox.
Five Minor Nations with Superior Militaries - Posted by admin 2015-07-06 11:07:19
Yay! :D Proud of my people.
Five Minor Nations with Superior Militaries - Posted by admin 2015-07-05 21:05:17
I'm hoping New Zealand won't make the list :P
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-05 13:41:23
Messed up my two links. http://en.alalam.ir/news/1607806 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2760644/ISIS-signs-6-000-new-recruits-American-airstrikes-began-France-says-start-calling-group-...
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-05 13:39:59
"Sure, but this isn't a western society. Direct and subliminal messages are convincing people to radicalize every day" This is exactly the kind of orientalism I talked about in my previous...
WODC R2 - Judging! :) - Posted by admin 2015-07-05 07:15:54
Time is now basically up for round 2 of the WODC. I've been a bit lenient with this round's timings. I'll apply a 50% point penalty to all debaters in debates that go over the limit. As always, t...
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-05 07:00:13
"I thought it was because of radical preaching and over sensationalized idealism" Just because somebody preaches something radical doesn't mean you'll automatically accept it. This is mode...
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-04 18:38:57
You can't stop a movement like ISIL if you just think of them like an army. You have to consider why ISIL exists in the first place: lots of poor youth, and nothing to keep them occupied. Every single...
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-04 07:45:01
Oh yeah, dealing with bugs immediately and topics when I actually get time lol. :)
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-04 07:35:40
That's the placeholder attribute. Every version of Google Chrome since version 2 has supported that correctly (current version is version 43). Your browser is screwed up.
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-04 06:41:43
All bug reports to the bug tracker please. Also, I have no idea why you expect text to disappear?
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-04 05:15:01
Yes. I mean, given that I believe forces just shouldn't exist at all anymore and NATO should be disbanded, I suppose I might as well.
Smart Economics - Posted by admin 2015-07-01 04:17:18
First of all, I'm not an Austrian or a Keynesian. I thought my rant above would have made that fairly clear. There's merit to both philosophies, but I also have serious problems with both. That doesn'...
Smart Economics - Posted by admin 2015-06-30 04:45:34
If there's one thing I know for certain about economists, it's that no two of them can agree on anything. If you've been taught all economists agree on basic principles, then geez... I mean, look at a...
Smart Economics - Posted by admin 2015-06-29 05:10:52
By its very definition, "Bad policy, something most liberal countries have, is when you take money from everyone to give it to the few. In this case the lower class" is the definition of a p...
Smart Economics - Posted by admin 2015-06-28 18:07:32
As you might expect, I see things rather differently, and don't appreciate being called stupid because of it. Just as a first principle: Inflation is when we have too much money, and too few go...
The difference between acceptance and tolerance - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 16:00:03
It's the grey area of tolerance. Disapproval, I think most people can agree that's in the limits of tolerance. Clear bullying & harassment or extreme hate speech, on the other hand, I think most p...
The difference between acceptance and tolerance - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 15:52:37
And I'm fine with that. So long as that vocalization isn't, like, extreme hate speech ("Kill all the Christians!") or something I guess. My overall point is that "interaction" as @...
The difference between acceptance and tolerance - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 15:47:12
Can we just agree that in general, tolerating something means providing people with that thing with equality? Like, if you don't treat people of other religions differently, for example, you tolerate ...
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 15:42:45
Kinda. There were legal implications and such. Changing your class back then was about as difficult as changing your gender is now.
The difference between acceptance and tolerance - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 15:41:37
I mean, in general I agree with the point that tolerating somebody doesn't mean agreeing with them, but I just strongly disagree with this particular conception of "tolerance".
The difference between acceptance and tolerance - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 15:40:15
OK. So does torturing somebody until they're almost dead but not quite, mean you tolerate them?
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 15:37:52
They took over the Latin League and declared themselves above the rest of the Latins. Latins eventually enjoyed similar rights to Plebs.
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 15:28:10
I can just imagine Romans 2000 years ago being like "These stupid Latins may identify as Equites, but that doesn't mean squat! If they had a Latin mom and dad, they should be a latin no matter wh...
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 15:25:59
It is a real thing, and I was reading about it way before 1 year ago lol. In general people's bodies don't always match their identities. We accept some of those changes, like tattoos, and reject othe...
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 15:21:17
It's interesting, isn't it? Heck, we have a transhumanist group on edeb8 for people who want to convert themselves to binary code! Odd to somebody like me, but far from the craziest thing I've ever se...
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 15:15:36
I start to feel a little bit uncertain when it comes to the level of about transableism (people who feel they should have been born disabled and do things like cut off their legs and stuff). I'd suppo...
The difference between acceptance and tolerance - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 15:03:24
The NAZIs interacted with Jews, primarily by killing them. Would you say the NAZIs tolerated Jews?
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 15:00:36
I don't believe the suicide rate is 40% for transgenders today in many more progressive societies. The less you ostracise them and respect them, the less they want to kill themselves. Goes for all peo...
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 12:27:20
So to you, somebody who believes they were born of the wrong gender but does nothing about it is alright then, since they didn't take what you personally consider to be an extreme action?
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 12:25:54
Because the same claims you're making now, were made decades ago of homosexuals. THEY used to have the highest rate of suicide, and it was because of how society treated them. The same is true of any ...
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 11:53:53
It can definitely be, but the key word here is reaction. Every reaction is equal and opposite to the action.
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 11:01:20
Except when I got my dick circumcised it was because I wanted to appease God, not because I had some mental issues regarding my self confidence and body. It was a personal choice you made to conf...
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 10:58:41
Which is why they need to talk to a doctor or a psychotherapist so they can get to feeling normal again. And the same thing was said to gay people once. It's normal for guys to like girls, there...
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 10:56:58
I don't mean to use this example lightly, but suppose a man is sad over losing his job. Would you say he necessarily has a mental illness because of that emotional reaction?
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 09:37:08
Indeed. And some people are in fact born with two Y chromosomes, and they're born male too. But all that doesn't mean they have to identify as such, and if they identify differently. Those people...
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 09:23:45
No there's not. Being "male" is a socially constructed identity. Having a dick is a physical trait. If somebody doesn't identify as male for whatever reason, including but not limited to the...
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 09:15:11
Your whole point is exactly like saying people who have a dick and don't like girls are mentally dysfunctional. It's a non-sequitur.
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 09:06:15
If not, then you can't get offended on their behalf. I can get offended without being personally offended, and without doing it on their behalf. People who change genders are dysfunctional. ...
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 07:52:15
Being fat is also a public health issue that the government needs to solve. It isn't necessarily strictly speaking a disease, though it can be caused by one. I find your attitude towards transgen...
US Military Compared with Other Nations - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 07:22:15
That's just the thing. If Hitler has everything he needs, then he has no incentive to take our stuff and wouldn't. Therefore the problem isn't really war. It's scarcity. Or in other words, t...
US Military Compared with Other Nations - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 06:33:37
Sure, but war changes things.
US Military Compared with Other Nations - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 06:32:55
Give Hitler your stuff. Simple as that.
US Military Compared with Other Nations - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 06:03:38
Sure. Again, the cost of invading is a few hours of your time. The benefit is zero. You can't beat a benefit of zero. Every war ever fought has been because somebody was trying to gain something...
US Military Compared with Other Nations - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 05:56:09
Well hypothetically then, the cost of going to war is greater than the benefit. Poland has nothing, the NAZIs already control the world, having them invade us again is a waste of time and resources th...
US Military Compared with Other Nations - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 05:38:41
I guess it would depend on a whole lot of variables in that hypothetical situation.
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 05:22:49
Social security in the sense I'm using it refers to paying benefits those who cannot afford public goods that have a cost attached. A simple example would be the unemployment benefit. The fall un...
Should contraception and abortions be paid by Gov? - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 05:01:02
Only as part of social security. It falls under the government's role of ensuring equal access to healthcare for all their citizens.
US Military Compared with Other Nations - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 04:54:46
I think you missed an important point of history: the vast majority of the Mongol "conquests" came about without warfare. A big part of the Mongol strategy was to make their armies appe...
US Military Compared with Other Nations - Posted by admin 2015-06-26 16:38:04
Nations don't attack nations because they feel like picking on little guys. Nations attack each other because there are scarce resources and people get jealous. For as long as there is hunger, disease...
US Military Compared with Other Nations - Posted by admin 2015-06-26 14:05:30
It doesn't make sense we have an NZDF at all. This sounds like an ideal time for me to put up another challenge on the topic...
Community feature: video requests - Posted by admin 2015-06-25 04:36:39
A lot of you have asked for me to produce a series of videos about edeb8 and debating on the feature request tracker. So what I want to know is, what do you want to see in those videos? Write you...
Privatization of national air - Posted by admin 2015-06-25 04:26:28
I think the third world would hate you for it. Poor nations can't afford better air control systems.
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-22 09:45:30
The point is that the messages aren't in any way inherently signalling that they are spam. I'm not doing anything to make them spam. That's proven by the fact that you haven't changed their system, th...
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-22 08:06:59
Have you ever marked any of them as either spam or not spam? Was there any effect when we switched hosts? Was there an effect when we switched to the email system that has the image at the top? ...
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-22 03:33:48
It's least likely to be not marked as spam. Gmail marks it sometimes, but not all the time.
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 22:43:58
Given that the problem is worst on yahoo, I kinda doubt this is the issue.
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 22:08:48
Nobody is saying it's not. All I'm saying is that I can't do anything about it.
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 10:46:16
Feel free to send me the headers of the message in question. In gmail, you can get that from the random top-right dropdown menu thingymajig, then clicking "Show Original". Send it to me...
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 10:41:09
Oh right. Sorry, wasn't clear. I checked with yahoo, spamassassin, a blank gmail and my own gmail. Results for all four were variable, yahoo was clearly the worst though.
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 10:36:15
Did I try what with specifically?
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 10:32:54
Every email on the site is designed exactly the same, except for the text on the inside. The sole exception is badge notifications, which have only an extra image (the new badge). Further, someti...
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 10:30:08
This isn't a discussion. I don't have a choice, there's literally nothing edeb8 can do. People on DDO talk to me nicer than you've been doing here the past month or so. Nor am I making excuses. I woul...
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 10:28:20
See, that attitude is what antagonizes people. You assume it's about "having what it takes." Just assume that if somebody disagrees with you they must be stupid or whatever. Say you know I d...
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 10:22:29
This is why I get all depressed about working on this site. People who ask me for things constantly that I keep telling them are LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME OR ANYONE ELSE TO DO. People who ope...
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 10:18:21
That gmail thinks it's spam when it's not. Gmail isn't a perfect system.
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 10:16:02
Nobody in the world can fix it. It's not a problem with the site, but with your mail filter.
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 10:13:26
And what can I do about that?
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 03:30:52
There was a small mistake in the draw the first time around which caused a few matchups to be wrong. Sorry about that.
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 03:29:59
There's nothing inherent to my emails at all. You can check them yourself if you like. A lot of people have told me this and so I've run the emails themselves with all headers etc through several onli...
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 03:27:53
Use the MOST RECENT email ... you probably were sent several
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 03:27:06
Then: 1) create a filter so emails from edeb8 don't go to spam, or 2) use your edeb8 email address instead
WODC Round 2 - "Energy Policy" - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 00:06:22
The following users have only a couple of hours before they are forced to forfeit: UtherPenguin @RXR. @Stag lannan13 That1User If you see them around, tell them to hurry up.
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 00:02:07
If you can't learn to learn, then you are better off living in ingorance. This is what I was throwing a spat over on the other thread. I really dislike this attitude.
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-21 00:00:23
Hey Stag, instead of going on about this - ENTER YOUR TOPIC SELECTIONS FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF THE TOURNAMENT. Come on...
Happy world music day! - Posted by admin 2015-06-20 14:44:04
Don't worry, be happy.
Judge Rating Reform - Posted by admin 2015-06-20 05:14:56
To be fair, the judgment needs to be exceptional before it can be rated constructive. It's not an automatic "4 points = rate constructive" kinda thing.
WODC Round 2 - "Energy Policy" - Posted by admin 2015-06-20 05:13:07
You need to learn how to use double at tagging.
WODC Round 2 - "Energy Policy" - Posted by admin 2015-06-20 00:29:17
Apologies for the multiple emails. My mistake. Please disregard all but the most recent. Also note that the draw has changed slightly for the bottom few competitors due to me accidentally counting a v...
Judge Rating Reform - Posted by admin 2015-06-19 09:22:43
At some point, you should explain in great depth why you think this is a good idea.
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-19 09:21:00
You mean people judging on the same site they're competing on?
WODC Round 1 Rest Day - Posted by admin 2015-06-19 01:09:10
Hey y'all! In less than a day, we're going to see round 2 of the WODC kick off. Thanks to everyone who helped judge the round 1 debates! I'm sure all the debaters appreciated the honest feedback ...
Noob questions - Posted by admin 2015-06-18 23:45:58
As @Stag said, a reply speech comes after your main round and has a few unique features based on many RL formats such as World Schools.
Noob questions - Posted by admin 2015-06-18 23:44:08
Leave it for the feature request tracker.
Important: judge feedback - Posted by admin 2015-06-16 00:59:34
Alright, let's let cooler heads prevail. I do want to say, for the record, like it or not, there are a set of well-established expectations that everyone must follow: the site terms of use. Please fol...
Important: judge feedback - Posted by admin 2015-06-15 05:11:32
We are already ahead in terms of everything I as an administrator can do. What edeb8 lacks is effective moderation, as is clear given incidents such as this, and that's why I am a moderator first. Tha...
Why I am obsessed with China - Posted by admin 2015-06-15 01:20:26
I think the planet would be taken out long before the US is taken out in the event of a global war.
Important: judge feedback - Posted by admin 2015-06-15 01:16:10
There is a reason certain features exist, and misuse of those features has always been grounds for moderation. This isn't necessarily an attack on your behavior, but on the position you have been advo...
Important: judge feedback - Posted by admin 2015-06-14 11:41:26
Bumping to the top
Important: judge feedback - Posted by admin 2015-06-14 10:23:58
Edeb8 works on an honesty system. We basically expect people to be transparent and try to help one another, not put each other down. Recently, many of you will remember how I became so upset at how th...
Jifpop? - Posted by admin 2015-06-14 10:03:07
Removed duplicate thread.
Why I am obsessed with China - Posted by admin 2015-06-14 09:53:17
Some. Quite limited. Standard of living in general is hard to measure but seems quite the focus of modern economics.
Why I am obsessed with China - Posted by admin 2015-06-14 06:05:42
As if GDP was a good measure of the economic strength of the nation lol.
Why I am obsessed with China - Posted by admin 2015-06-14 06:04:17
You do realize that the same "dominance" such a China would enjoy is precisely equivalent to the "dominance" of the US under the status quo if this "scaremongering" were ...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-13 05:56:33
Sometimes the only way to win a war is to avoid a war. As the Chinese saying goes, the best strategy is to run away. Hitler too said "Alles Fur Deutschland". Always had the best interes...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-13 05:54:06
Well that's alright then, because I don't believe the US would be so stupid as to try to charge somebody in a formal judicial process based on such limited evidence alone. The NZ government pract...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-12 22:22:01
Do you have a source? I'd be interested.
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-12 22:21:29
Even if it does, is that good? Compared to, you know, NOT antagonizing at all and trying to be nice to people?
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 21:01:57
... and none of them were from the government. There have also been "testimonies" that 9/11 was an inside job.
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 20:28:58
Ah yes. "Everyone." One of these days, the US will wake up and realize that when there's backlash against their antagonization, further antagonization will always lead to further backla...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 19:40:45
... and you think the odd IP address resolving to a building partially containing the Chinese government is a massively huge amount of evidence in the IT world?
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 05:46:43
Sounds like a double standard to me :) There's no credible proof that the chinese government is behind most of it, and what little there is evidence for is massively overshadowed by other nations...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 05:32:20
Do you think the world should punish the USA for its hacking attempts as well? If so, how?
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 04:03:41
I'm not advocating that. I'm saying nations need to defend themselves. Get more cybersecurity. The US stuff is because the US government is crying for being attacked and proposing retaliatory str...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 04:00:39
Are you talking about the Iran thing? 'Cause that was a ridiculously shitty excuse.
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 02:08:45
I want to share this article, BTW. It's extremely well written and talks about the real harms of cyber warfare, how the US instigated a war without being noticed: http://www.newyorker.com/news/da...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 02:05:21
An assumption. You don't know who the real bad guys are, or that there are bad guys at all. You're making stuff up on the pure basis of limited evidence which would never get a conviction given due pr...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 02:04:20
Well with that response I presume you're acting as a snob who believes he knows the truth about everything and isn't prepared to hear any alternative. "Go away and come back and talk to me w...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 02:02:55
To stop hatred you should attack. WHAT? Lay down your arms and then one of only two things can happen: 1> Peace 2> You win the moral high ground The nation that MOST projects its m...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:53:32
Lol. I had no idea you were the ultimate arbiter of "reality".
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:52:38
Perhaps it does deserve its own thread. It's a historical question anyway while this issue is very present.
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:51:57
Why do you think that? In my view, the goal of foreign policy is to stop hatred and bring peace to the world. Classifying any actor by a simple label such as a threat is problematic for this view...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:50:36
Do nothing? They have more prosecutions there than in the US!
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:50:10
And I believe Saddam might have been legitimately afraid of that. Israel and her allies have done some pretty bullshit invasions before.
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:45:13
Oh, so if nobody else has a military but you, then you're alright with that? No need to ever go to war then, right?
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:44:19
Sure. And they also clashed in the Kuwait war and basically every other major war before then :)
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:43:41
Stalinist-aligned? lol. Difference between invasion, which requires occupation, and launching attacks or strikes. Arab countries all hate each other but they hate Israel the most. I'm simply sayi...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:41:49
Allowing your own military industries to become stronger so you can kill more people later is fair game? Seriously, what else would be the purpose of this? Oh that's right - prevent an Israeli ground ...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:38:07
Right. Because Iraq and Israel hadn't gone to war before... seriously, how deluded can you be?
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:27:54
So I suppose you're one of those nuts that support the trade embargo on North Korea over continuing diplomacy then? Even though North Korea has no problem killing millions of citizens and using t...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:26:28
What do you expect them to say? "Oh yeah Israel, our military is weak, please don't invade us like you have tried with every other country around the Arab world..." Seriously, even Leba...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:25:21
They don't. They literally don't.
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:24:53
You... said that espionage related to war, cyber or not, is fair game. Espionage that commits attacks on capitalism or global markets is something that should be discouraged. Therefore, you h...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:23:08
Not always from that building, no. The vast majority of cyber attacks out of China come from random factory towns, especially around the south. The media, of course, blames everything on the Chinese g...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:21:46
I absolutely do. And we can discuss this on another thread.
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:20:57
War is ok. Copyright theft is not ok. Can you see what's wrong with the last 2 sentences?
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:19:47
Sure, there's evidence they're behind some of it... but the evidence is extremely weak. There was also evidence of production of WMDs in Iraq but the evidence was extremely weak. The ONLY link to...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:17:41
That's stupid and childish. "Oh so if China hacks the US, then it's legitimate for us to strike back, but if we hack China, China's not allowed to strike back!"
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:16:41
As an aside, war should be prevented at all costs, not started. Especially on the internet.
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:16:08
Nope. Terrible idea. Those nuclear facilities are crucial for Iran and non-military.
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:15:29
Diplomacy means guessing who hacked you. If you want to trust the odd US government press release and not what China has to say, based on US intelligence that is extremely limited at best, then that's...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:08:08
You really think that disabling the nuclear facilities in Iran, then "accidentally" allowing the viruses to be unleashed upon the whole Earth and destroy coporate data across the world, was ...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 01:06:18
Wow. Suspected Chinese hacking attempts. Look, ultimately the choice is clear. You can fight hackers (cyber-security) or guess who it was that hacked you. You can trust that evidence, or you can ...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 00:55:28
Dude, I've probably looked it up more than you ever have. It's not mindblowing. It comes down to about 3 IP addresses used in a small number of attacks. Unlike the US, who created Stuxnet, Flame and h...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 00:47:19
Well why don't you think the US doesn't hack China? Because their government communications are filtered as part of the Golden Shield Project, employing hundreds of thousands of people. If America doe...
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 00:43:30
Well I'm sure the US government has disclosed their completely credible evidence that this is the Chinese government as opposed to Chinese individuals then.
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-11 00:40:47
Yes it is a solution. It prevents hacks from happening again. Everything else in this thread is retaliation, not a solution.
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-10 22:56:03
You've got to remember, these are the SAME experts who were also almost certain that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
China Hack - Posted by admin 2015-06-10 22:55:25
By improving their cyber-security? Wouldn't this be logical?
WODC R1 Debates - Posted by admin 2015-06-10 22:46:39
The Redneck v TheJuniorVarsityNovice http://www.edeb8.com/debate/This+House+Believes+That+Provisions+of+Internet+Services+Should+be+a+Public+Utility/ ShabShoral v RXR. http://www.edeb8.com/de...
What the hell is ''BOP'' ? - Posted by admin 2015-06-05 18:23:42
It's a tool some judges use. It's the side with the BoP (almost always pro) that ultimately must prove their case in order to decide a winner. This helps resolve equal situations in formal judging on ...
FIFA Probe - Posted by admin 2015-06-03 10:44:00
I'm not doubting you BTW. My grandfather was a pro soccer player at one point in Europe haha, the same has been going on since forever.
FIFA Probe - Posted by admin 2015-06-03 10:43:00
Sure, but I mean, baseball has the infamous Ten Cent Beer Night to its name and numerous gangs specifically associated with it. Soccer just happens to have the most problems of that nature because it ...
FIFA Probe - Posted by admin 2015-06-03 10:35:08
To be fair, that's true to a degree of fanatical fans of any sport. Drunk people + issues to get passionate about = social unrest.
FIFA Probe - Posted by admin 2015-06-03 05:30:29
Just how corrupt can a sports body be?
At-Tagging users with spaces in their names - Posted by admin 2015-06-02 21:29:12
Yip
Conjoined twin rape - Posted by admin 2015-06-02 05:03:09
Usually you need penetration to occur for an incest charge.
Conjoined twin rape - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 23:33:04
I'm actually interested. How on earth would a defence lawyer prove that both were not parties to the crime? Did one conjoined twin drug the other before committing it or something in this fictional sc...
Conjoined twin rape - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 23:13:20
It depends a bit on the jurisdiction I think. With due process law and such you can't usually punish something like that - however I'm pretty sure it would be nearly impossible to get a conviction on ...
Conjoined twin rape - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 22:19:04
Yes. In general where multiple parties have rights to something, they one party can't screw the other parties out of that thing by asserting control. It's the same as, say two chefs own an italia...
WODC Round 1 - "The Internet" - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 14:50:19
Besides, YOU'RE the one who vetoed that topic!
WODC Round 1 - "The Internet" - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 14:49:26
Nope. And I won't.
WODC Round 1 - "The Internet" - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 14:44:24
None of the topics are impossible to win. Two of the best debaters on DDO and Edeb8 concur on this.
WODC Round 1 - "The Internet" - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 13:14:47
PM'd
If the death penalty is immoral.. ? - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 03:53:19
I used to be... fairly christian. I don't think I ever settled on it for certain but I went through the whole baptism thing and read the bible a lot. Isn't there that part where Jesus is dying on...
WODC Round 1 - "The Internet" - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 03:33:41
I think all three topics are clear enough. If people need to do research to understand the topics I can sympathize, and otherwise they can just vote for the topic they understand best. It's inter...
If the death penalty is immoral.. ? - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 03:27:31
Personally yeah. I've argued that topic a lot in debating lol, and so I can clearly see the arguments both ways. I think it's ultimately a moral issue. Should states EVER be prepared to forgive a crim...
If the death penalty is immoral.. ? - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 03:17:20
Because in my personal view: 1. I think if there's any hope of rehabilitation, states have a duty to act mercifully 2. False convictions will happen even in a perfect justice system until the crys...
WODC Round 1 - "The Internet" - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 02:49:53
Lol.
If the death penalty is immoral.. ? - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 02:48:34
Sometimes the criminal justice system is fine, it's the evidence that changes as time goes on.
If the death penalty is immoral.. ? - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 02:47:57
Yip
WODC Round 1 - "The Internet" - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 02:46:04
You need the email to post your selection.
WODC Round 1 - "The Internet" - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 02:45:17
Then I suppose he won't be able to post his selection. No harm done.
WODC Round 1 - "The Internet" - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 02:42:00
... to the DDO forum. The place on the internet where the most shit is talked. Probably.
WODC Round 1 - "The Internet" - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 02:39:39
@That1User alerted me to a very important point: the emails sent neglected to make mention of the SIDE. I'm so sorry about that. THE FOLLOWING USERS ARE PRO shabshoral Wylted Zaradi The R...
WODC Round 1 - "The Internet" - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 02:39:18
Well get him to tell me that. Since he isn't telling me, I'm inclined to give his opponent a free win, but so far I've just got it on hearsay from you so I won't take action yet.
If the death penalty is immoral.. ? - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 01:46:13
What's your answer to exoneration then, out of curiosity?
If the death penalty is immoral.. ? - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 01:24:25
"hopped up"? Is that what the cool kids call it nowadays? Never heard that one before.
WODC Round 1 - "The Internet" - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 01:19:12
Get him to tell me that
WODC Round 1 - "The Internet" - Posted by admin 2015-06-01 00:09:02
shabshoral vs RXR. Wylted vs lannan13 Stag vs Zaradi The Redneck vs TheJuniorVarsityNovice UtherPenguin vs That1User debatability vs FourTrouble Ajabi vs 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA BYE - ...
WODC Update - Posted by admin 2015-05-31 16:16:33
Less than 8 hours out from the beginning of the World Online Debate Cup 2015, sign ups through the website have been officially closed. If you want to do a really last minute sign-up, you'll have to c...
At-Tagging users with spaces in their names - Posted by admin 2015-05-31 15:54:04
Should be rolled out around the site now.
At-Tagging users with spaces in their names - Posted by admin 2015-05-31 15:46:10
Woo hoo!
At-Tagging users with spaces in their names - Posted by admin 2015-05-31 15:45:55
Let's try that again... @Priest of Swag @admin ...hope this one works
At-Tagging users with spaces in their names - Posted by admin 2015-05-31 15:43:58
At-tags are handy if you want to tag somebody with no space in their names, but what if somebody does have a space? @Priest of Swag Yeah, I think it should now be possible to do this (sorry ...
Feature request notifications - Posted by admin 2015-05-31 05:17:48
I *think* they are defaulted on. Were they not on by default for you? The only one which I remember making default off was the "new feature request posted" one, because I really want to avoi...
Feature request notifications - Posted by admin 2015-05-31 04:57:34
Just a post to say these exist now. You can go to your settings > notifications. I've put in a lot of code / testing to ensure that you never get more than one notification per event. In addition t...
How to request a feature or send a bug report - Posted by admin 2015-05-31 02:22:43
Yip, definitely is fixed. Sorry, got myself confused about when certain notifications were sent.
How to request a feature or send a bug report - Posted by admin 2015-05-31 02:13:10
Oh wait, hang on, maybe it isn't...
How to request a feature or send a bug report - Posted by admin 2015-05-31 02:11:40
Over 300 test notifications later... Fixed! Thanks for the bug report! :D
If the death penalty is immoral.. ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-31 01:46:59
Yeah, I did just before. In one word no less.
How to request a feature or send a bug report - Posted by admin 2015-05-31 01:38:26
Hey - It should say something like this: "You have been tagged in a comment on the feature 'X'." ... except instead of "X" it'll have the name of a feature. Can you tell m...
How to request a feature or send a bug report - Posted by admin 2015-05-30 18:51:29
Going to bump this thread for a while so people other than just stag and me see it
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-30 18:50:18
Oh, our reserves? Lol... I'd be surprised if they even have enough guns for them.
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-30 18:39:12
We have a national guard? Since when?
How to request a feature or send a bug report - Posted by admin 2015-05-30 18:38:17
Previously I was keeping all my "to-dos" for edeb8 on a text file on my computer. Now my to-dos shall be here. Of course I will still prioritize bug reports regardless of voting (if they are...
If the death penalty is immoral.. ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-30 18:36:10
Exoneration?
How to request a feature or send a bug report - Posted by admin 2015-05-30 18:16:58
The reason for this: For the last little while I've had to spend upwards of an hour each day sometimes just arguing about features in chats. It's annoying as heck, especially when it's always the...
How to request a feature or send a bug report - Posted by admin 2015-05-30 18:10:42
There is now a new system in place for all features and bug reports. http://www.edeb8.com/feature-request Put everything there. Vote for your favorite features & things you want me t...
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-30 13:50:03
Lifestock exports means selling sheep and cows etc. We do that too, but not to the same extent. Film industry - well, we already have the biggest one in the Pacific by value. Auto industry - no...
Bunch of updates - Posted by admin 2015-05-30 01:59:26
At some point I need to do a write-up of all the new features from the last couple of months for the blog lol. I've been slack with that. Oh well, it can wait until next week :D
Bunch of updates - Posted by admin 2015-05-30 01:53:18
Bumping this because this is way more important than petty catfights about Elo.
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-30 01:51:50
Not true. Our economy is based on: > Rich bastards coming here and buying up large amounts of land in one particular city creating a vast property bubble > Tourism > Agricultural produc...
Rename the Americas - Posted by admin 2015-05-30 01:49:01
Lol. Siberian tribes Stag. This time I'm certain you meant Siberian tribes, not Serbian tribes.
Rename the Americas - Posted by admin 2015-05-30 00:25:53
I believe some other peoples may have just already been in America when Columbus arrived... let me just look up my books on native American society here... hmmm...
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-30 00:24:31
Sure, but then we wouldn't be an empty country. And that's our main selling point. There's much more to sustainability than just food security. I'm particularly concerned right now about pollution, co...
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 21:05:24
I disagree. I think migration to New Zealand has been too high, particularly in the last 20 years. Particularly since the people coming here are rich people, which has caused a massive housing bubble ...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:55:46
Maybe, but I think it's still wise to do what we can to combat it.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:54:59
Lots of people are drawn to sport not for the competition! I never win competitions pretty much, but I enjoy them for the reasons you mentioned.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:53:09
I can assure you, I certainly would :D
The Problem with Collective Security - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:51:52
Well for starters, it's the very first sentence of the article... "Germany's arms industry is under pressure to diversify its business because the government wants to reduce the country's ar...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:50:53
Pretty much if you're here just to defend a viewpoint you strongly and earnestly believe in, then you're pretty much restricted to just doing debates. This is why things like secret topics or randomiz...
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:40:03
Why direct & immediate? Very arbritrary criteria. Very few torts would be covered by that, and that's a huge part of modern common law.
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:38:09
Absolutely not. Our system of checks and balances gets everything done much better. You can try to rise to power but you pretty much have to already dominate. Formal constitutions, by contrast, have a...
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:36:09
Now what about all the other liberties you want to take away through abusive unconstitutional voting? Hey, you're the one who wants a 90% plurality on everything. How about every other law ever...
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:34:00
Informal would be like Israel where they have laws and guidelines set, but can choose to ignore them through a quick vote. Informal would be like New Zealand, where we have rules and guidelines not...
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:31:54
I bet 90% would forfeit the liberty to murder.
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:26:20
Informal constitutions can be just as powerful, if not more powerful, than formal ones.
The Problem with Collective Security - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:25:14
... and the article explicitly states many times "the government wants to reduce the country's arms exports". Sure the government are helping to bankroll the industry, but the whole poi...
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:23:54
where he advocated that individual choices should be restricted if they are bad for the individual. The way I remember it... I was actually advocating that drug use harms more than just the individu...
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:21:55
Yes it can be controlled. And that is why I believe in the democracy that I know you totally hate :)
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:20:57
The way I see it, such a mutual forfeiture of rights is justified whenever there is a net benefit for all parties to the social contract of having that forfeiture. Just as murder laws are not elitist ...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:18:41
There should certainly not be a long-term trend of judging only one way on a particular position. One of the updates yesterday shows you a basic voter impartiality index based on your propensity ...
The Problem with Collective Security - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:15:17
The government does. The industry doesn't. I thought I'd made that clear.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:12:08
Only in the circumstance that all other debates you don't judge, you can't judge for some other reason. Or in other words, your real life beliefs should never be a criteria for deciding which debates ...
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:09:52
Lol, I do not care if somebody is being controlled as long as that control isn't sanctioned and enforced through law. Why? If you allow yourself to be controlled and coerced than you're person...
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:08:25
Demanding unwillful actions from other citizens because it benefits you personally (or your made up collective) is not a universal liberty. It is elitism and domination. Demanding others do not murd...
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:06:47
And how exactly are those not causes to be fought for right now?
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 20:02:56
"Political opponents"? You think this is a political game? Look, I'm not interested in starting a forum war. @Stag tried this with me and I rage-quit the forums for a week. THIS IS NOT ...
The Problem with Collective Security - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 19:57:44
Because it ALSO says the German government has been for a while now reducing arms sales. And also that the German government is having to deny plans they are looking to eliminate it, which many critic...
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 19:54:08
Demanding unwillful actions from other citizens because it benefits you personally (or your made up collective) is not a universal liberty. It is elitism and domination. I have to disagree with thi...
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 19:52:50
Can you stop using the phrase "post-modern" wrong? You mean modern, trust me.
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 19:51:50
I actually think the opposite of controlling people. The problem is that you want to allow other PEOPLE to control EACH OTHER, and I think a government is necessary to PREVENT that. This creates condi...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 19:47:57
Have you not read any of my posts at all? I never said that personal bias is the problem on this site. .... members are permitted to pick and choose which debates they may WANT to vote on. ...
The Problem with Collective Security - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 19:12:05
I don't even accept your premise that NATO is dominated by the US. That's a complex issue. I'll file it on the long list of things I have to debate with you :) major nation in NATO has made sta...
The Problem with Collective Security - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 19:10:24
Not true, we've already done it consistently each year since 2008. Only as a relative proportion of your budget. Your year to year spending has steadily increased. Germany deployed in all NATO...
Why are most black people democratic when.. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 17:20:21
Because in the wise words of My Little Pony, "my past is not my today."
Liberalism Defined. - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 17:19:28
As a (semi-social) liberal myself, I'm so glad to see liberalism clearly defined by another member. It gets misrepresented so often by certain other members who don't know what they're on about (*coug...
Bunch of updates - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 14:08:53
Notably: - Fixed new badge notifications not sending - Added ability for debates to expire - Added ability to edit an open debate challenge - New settings for messages in Settings > Disp...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 09:33:24
I think I'll boil this down to a few key points. 1. I have better things to do than moderate a massive forum community. My only goal is to make this the best debate site it can be. 2. If you th...
The Problem with Collective Security - Posted by admin 2015-05-29 09:24:52
BS. The USA will probably never lower their military spending at the rate you're going. Germany is a puppet of the USA in all military affairs, and has been since WW2. They've pretty much always ...
The Problem with Collective Security - Posted by admin 2015-05-28 23:53:00
I don't disagree with that, but ultimately the point remains that the 3% incentive is driven almost entirely by the US military-industrial system.
The Problem with Collective Security - Posted by admin 2015-05-28 23:32:47
In fairness this is because NATO is dominated by the USA, who also happen to be the world's most high-value exporter of military technology.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-28 00:43:39
I've heard ee-low before too though, I imagine either way is probably not disrespectful or anything.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-28 00:40:10
El-oh. It's the name of a famous statistician / chess player from Hungary who wanted to see who he was better than. So the capitalization rules are the same as for any other proper name.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-27 22:46:13
Genuine question. Why does everyone capitalize every letter in Elo like it's some kind of abbreviation? Are you all trying to indicate that you're shouting the word or something?
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-27 22:09:04
You know Stag, you probably wouldn't even realize if I did. Seriously, when one considers how many random features this site has just because one member wanted it... or even, because I thought it...
edeb8 hall of fame ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-27 20:00:39
It's on your dashboard? http://www.edeb8.com/group/Edeb8+Member+Awards/
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-27 17:05:26
No I really need to keep my Larz account notifications going to me directly because of the tournament. Also, if I do add the feature, it won't be for a week or two at least anyway. Got the major ...
double standards - Posted by admin 2015-05-27 16:57:39
IDK. The same reason people in society are allowed to carry giant planks of wood down the street but not clubs.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-27 16:35:13
And that's on my feature request list. I'm talking to max and he's currently considering whether I should be allowed to multiaccount. He can be fickle with this kind of thing so I don't want to jump t...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-27 16:21:38
Probably not outside of profile pages unless I had a compelling reason to put it there I guess.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-27 15:38:23
What kind of a chart?
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-27 12:33:34
So, obviously the votes that ARE made will tend to fall in line with that reality. Obviously? Heck, look at the monumental effort @nzlockie makes in all of his judgments. Typically they're considera...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-27 12:27:00
if and when a person (even subconsciously) opts to NOT vote at all in debates that they are either not interested in or when we feel it's in our best interest (for whatever the reason) to NOT vote at ...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-27 06:52:04
Unless you can require members to vote on debates we don't want to vote on (and against our own personal interests) . . . your "attempt" is futile. Of course if there's a clear pattern of...
WODC Update - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 23:00:57
Yes, there will :)
WODC Update - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 22:52:32
You'll be advised in the notification if you'll be debating HOME or AWAY, as well as the site your opponent and you signed up for. If you are HOME, you are debating on YOUR site. If you are AWA...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 22:51:16
I think the time to discuss this would be after the WODC. That way we have consistent judging standards for the tournament, which is important to the tournament code. I'm interested but we have to ste...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 22:47:17
I've always had a problem with "bad enough". Like, is this a disincentive to giving detailed feedback? Can it be manipulated to remove votes some in-group doesn't like? If a user gives ...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 22:28:21
You did. In fact I believe we had a debate on this. You ended up forfeiting. When you wrote this I almost considered writing my DDO debate history on my profile. Just so you can bask in how LOW my ...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 22:22:38
We are NOT required to vote against our personal interests on EITHER site and we are permitted to pick and choose the debates we might WANT to vote on. The vast majority of members do the very same th...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 22:17:32
Do you have a solution towards elitism and popularity bias besides "words of discouragement?" I do. Vote feedback. It's been edeb8's solution since day 1. :D
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 22:16:09
There's a rich-html editor for your biography (add images, different sizes of text etc), and you can change the settings of your theme and make that public. For security reasons I don't want to give f...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 22:14:23
1. Interested but difficult 2. We have this already 3. No point, might as well make all features available from the start :D
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 22:13:20
Elo is not supposed to be a measure of skill. If you have a 50% win/loss ratio and a good Elo, then that would imply you've only ever debated high-Elo opponents. If you've won half your debates agains...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 22:10:10
This is a fair point.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 22:07:05
That ELO score can still be made into a big deal, and it often is made into a big deal at that. The only people I've seen making a big deal about Elo scores on edeb8 are people complaining that oth...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 22:02:00
Do you agree or disagree that elo scores are completely subjective when compared to actual wins and losses in something like a game of chess? Disagree. Elo scores are equally objective. There is no...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 21:19:58
I do have a problem when other people's popularity bias affect my chances of winning a debate. I strongly agree with this. I just don't believe anyone is popular due to an Elo rating.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 21:18:37
I agree to a point, and DDO's Elo issues are one of the reasons I think Edeb8's system is superior. This being said: 1. Elo is EASILY IGNORABLE and only appears in one small spot on a user's profile...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 21:09:29
Chuz Life hasn't voted, so they can't be voting biased due to Elo scores.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 21:08:17
But there's, like, way better forum communities on the net. Edeb8 is pretty much as specialized a formal debate community as you can get.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 21:07:04
people judging biased due to the influence the number has on their thinking. I think you're the only one :)
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 21:04:12
Another reason why the numbers are separate? The site isn't Facebook either but we let people log in with Facebook.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 21:02:48
That's on an attack on Elo scores though, that's an attack on debate pretty specifically. Under that notion ALL debate is basically an elitist popularity contest. The things you mention are thing...
WODC Update - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 20:27:20
Yes
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 20:23:15
Or of course, have the edeb8 user settings page generate a secure unique secret value for every member to use on their edeb8 user verification page or such, to avoid false submissions.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 20:20:27
I have a general problem with verifying things personally every time, and I doubt max can be bothered verifying IPs for this purpose if that even was reliable. You've got me thinking though... Su...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 19:55:28
If I tell edeb8 that my username on DDO is "RoyLatham", how does edeb8 know that that's my REAL DDO username?
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 19:48:11
Sounds good. If you do find or think of a possible way to validate DDO users, please let me know. This is basically the only obstacle - everything else is pretty easy.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 19:34:23
I was thinking maybe it could be set up separately on the new "debate profile" section of the profile - like, "verified record" from DDO (or possibly other sites). But I wouldn't p...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 18:51:04
Is there anyway you (or anyone else) can think of for edeb8 to verify which DDO user a given Edeb8 member might be? I kinda wouldn't trust self-reporting for that if we integrated it into the site off...
What position do you prefer taking? - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 06:26:11
I enjoy being surprised with topics :)
edeb8 hall of fame ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-26 06:25:03
We do have the annual Edeb8 Member Awards.
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 18:39:49
Russia was a state of fear at the time. Certainly in politics, it still is to a significant degree. Although the Orthodox Church wasn't illegal, going was highly discouraged, and of course few wanted ...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 18:35:47
I don't feel any less uneducated by calling it Russia. I agree in part, but they were not assholes BECAUSE they were atheist, and they were not necessarily inciting religious hatred towards the o...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 18:29:39
Difference between having Catholic policies and being assholes to Christians. The executive has always gotten on fine with the church and still regularly holds consultations, even as policy has differ...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 13:18:40
That's not what I said. I said that 5% of the population of Russia were party members (roughly) during the 80s. Most "atheists" even within the party were so in name only, only declarin...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 13:16:05
That's like asking you to look up pro-christian politicians in America. The executive has always been strongly aligned with the church in France, and against the church in the USA, even though you'd t...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 12:57:26
No, it's true. By the 80s only 5% or so were party members. The official records of the Soviet census are far removed from the situation in the ordinary Russian family, which has long been a very cons...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 11:03:06
This one you have a point on, however.
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 11:02:47
Please. Less than 10% were party members at the HEIGHT of the Soviet Union. The Orthodox Church operated legally.
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 10:59:40
Majority of people, but the government is strongly aligned with Catholics. It's a historical thing.
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 10:30:23
Yeah, except just because you own a website doesn't mean you can write an illegal contract. Notably - copyright infringement. :)
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 10:29:15
A CATHOLIC nation? You serious?
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 10:17:42
Within reason.
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 10:17:23
Yip, sure
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 10:13:37
You're thinking of the USA. Here, the constitution is the terms of use :)
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 10:10:32
I could swear this is trolling.
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 10:05:48
That's not sectarianism though. That's hate directed at all faiths equally, it creates no divisions between the sects of theism. It is simply anti-theism.
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 09:58:39
There's policy arguments about that which are ongoing. I think fairly consistent standards between adults and kids makes sense when it comes to rights. Hence why I also think the voting age should be ...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 09:48:27
Out of curiosity, can you give me an example of atheists spurring sectarianism?
OFFICIAL BUG THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 09:46:32
BTW, this is also why directly after posting, the "most recent" button redirects to the second-to-most recent
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 09:45:51
Biased views =/= hate more generally. It forces older people to educate teens carefully. Again, some do, some don't. I won't deny there are alcohol problems. But they aren't worse than in countri...
OFFICIAL BUG THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 09:43:00
Difficulty is that the last page may or may not change after posting depending on a user's pagination preferences.
OFFICIAL BUG THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 09:37:38
Kinda figured. Still, it's useful feedback. Our old notification you actually had to dismiss before you could continue lol. Some peeps around here may remember that one. Redirect to comment poste...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 09:24:49
Fear mongering is the product of hatred. It's like with teenage drinking. In my country there is no drinking age, and it's up to parents to teach kids to drink responsibly. Some do, some fail. Bu...
OFFICIAL BUG THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 09:17:36
Added to my feature request list: notifications remove themselves after 8 seconds. :)
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 09:15:09
Religious tolerance isn't something that should be legislated. It's the culture of religious hatred that needs to change.
OFFICIAL BUG THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 09:09:00
What kind of a notification would you prefer?
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 09:05:19
No worries, my fault for misinterpreting :) It's an issue for me that some people want to restrict free speech because somehow apparently that improves religious tolerance! Just sounds daft to me...
LOC Formal Complaint - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 08:59:17
Fixed
Water is a human right - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 08:53:16
Such as?
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 08:49:53
I'm not, I'm from New Zealand. I don't denigrade Islam at all. I don't agree with certain views people may hold, but I do defend their right to say them. I actually don't mind Islam, but if someb...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 07:05:34
If you've never had a debate experience, you don't know if you would enjoy it. This being said, I am curious about your "observations." What exactly is making you conclude, if not your ...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 05:03:50
I'll focus on implementing it first. Then we can talk about whether it should be a default.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 04:57:24
Maybe I could chuck this into the site settings somehow. I'll add it to my list.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 04:39:52
As a longstanding member of DDO (since mid 2010 anyway), popularity contests have always existed there, LONG before Elo. The problem was always that SOME members were not interested in formal debate, ...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 04:32:36
Still not understanding what you mean sorry. Like - you want messages to be side by side? or what? Messages already do align vertically.
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 04:29:30
By "smaller", do you mean the way DDO's layout kinda squashes PMs into a small space?
Help ....... Me - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 00:08:57
(or Australia in this case, but it might as well have been NZ)
Help ....... Me - Posted by admin 2015-05-25 00:08:11
Yip, that's the tune. Here's a vid of an ice cream truck driving through NZ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elsr375TxCA
Help ....... Me - Posted by admin 2015-05-24 23:45:42
Is that what they play over there? Here the ice cream trucks play "Greensleeves".
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-24 23:09:40
I highly recommend that you show juggles unwillingness to help or work with the users of DDO is a very negative impact in a effort to draw membership on here. Having spoken with larz on countless occa...
A message to the users of Edb8 - Posted by admin 2015-05-24 23:06:28
Quick point about Elo. The edeb8 Elo formula honors the Elo system of chess, tennis, and RL debate. DDO is the only other site I know of that has an Elo system, and their system is basically an a...
A Dutch Disaster - Posted by admin 2015-05-24 02:15:39
I do too. I don't support murder, so I don't like the freedom to murder. I do support the press, so I do like the freedom of the press.
WODC Update - Posted by admin 2015-05-24 00:13:40
Fake Matches: Ajabi vs TheJuniorVarsityNovice Stag vs The Redneck FourTrouble vs 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA Zaradi vs UtherPenguin RXR. vs shabshoral debatability vs Wylted That1User vs l...
WODC Update - Posted by admin 2015-05-24 00:06:40
All competitors should now have received a message with their opponents and topics for the round 0, "testing" round. THIS IS NOT FOR THE ACTUAL COMPETITION, THIS IS JUST TO SEE IF EVERYTHING...
74 cent wage gap bullcrap - Posted by admin 2015-05-23 14:13:13
Except during the first 6 or so of those competitions, black people were basically barred from competing. All the finals races were white-only, and it wasn't because white people were magically faster...
74 cent wage gap bullcrap - Posted by admin 2015-05-23 09:46:09
I'm done debating here. Go accept the challenge and get off the forums ;)
74 cent wage gap bullcrap - Posted by admin 2015-05-23 09:45:25
Note the trend towards black atheletes as racial discrimination ended: Thomas Burke - non-black Frank Jarvis - non-black Archie Hahn - non-black Reggie Walker - non-black Ralph Craig - no...
74 cent wage gap bullcrap - Posted by admin 2015-05-23 09:37:37
Challenge sent
74 cent wage gap bullcrap - Posted by admin 2015-05-23 09:26:47
There's not six defined racial classifications. You're making that up. As I said, the class is not discreet. Rather, race is a socially defined grouping. 100 years ago, race meant what country you wer...
74 cent wage gap bullcrap - Posted by admin 2015-05-23 07:11:08
Yes, but the vast majority of 100m sprint medals ARE. I never made the claim of all track and field medallists.
74 cent wage gap bullcrap - Posted by admin 2015-05-23 07:10:18
No. "Race" simply means "a group of people who share phenotypical characteristics". There is no discreet classification - it is socially defined. Seriously, whoever is teaching you...
74 cent wage gap bullcrap - Posted by admin 2015-05-23 00:04:04
You're arguing the skin color. I'm arguing that certain races that happen to have certain traits (such as a skin color) happen to have certain other traits (such as more muscle fibers in some parts of...
74 cent wage gap bullcrap - Posted by admin 2015-05-22 20:01:44
Point being, it has almost nothing to do with skin color, and almost everything to do with where you were raised and where you are currently living you need to learn the definition of a genetic adva...
74 cent wage gap bullcrap - Posted by admin 2015-05-22 19:57:40
Except that doesn't account for the fact that track and field is also a popular sport in other parts of the world. People in those regions of Africa - and their descendants, who happen to be many blac...
74 cent wage gap bullcrap - Posted by admin 2015-05-22 05:53:10
Making divisions by race is only reinforcing the idea that race matters. Race doesn't matter. I've challenged everyone who says race doesn't matter to explain why 100m sprint winners at the Olympics...
WODC Update - Posted by admin 2015-05-21 15:52:34
Nope. Just do your edeb8 debates and you can still place well, and forfeit your DDO debates.
WODC Update - Posted by admin 2015-05-21 14:33:32
Suppose you'll just need to forfeit all your away debates then.
74 cent wage gap bullcrap - Posted by admin 2015-05-21 02:53:50
Consistency would be treating everyone the same because everyone already accepts the idea that race and ethnicity don't influence one's intelligence or personality. In NZ, we give reparations to Mao...
WODC Update - Posted by admin 2015-05-21 02:45:32
If you read the rules, you'll note that it says debates need to be set up on edeb8 as rated debates. This being said, it's 2-3 debates you'll do on here, against new members, so it shouldn't make a bi...
74 cent wage gap bullcrap - Posted by admin 2015-05-20 20:03:01
is it possible that men are worth 46 cents more than women on average ? Depends TO WHOM. If our subjective valuation of women is on average lower than our subjective valuation than men, then yeah,...
74 cent wage gap bullcrap - Posted by admin 2015-05-20 17:48:45
You know what's a proven fact? Ugly people are paid significantly less than beautiful people, on average. Scientific research has confirmed that people generally deemed to be more beautiful in a given...
WODC Update - Posted by admin 2015-05-20 15:48:09
We are now only 11 days away from the most awesome online debate tournament of the year. 12 brave souls have entered already, 9 of whom are representing debate.org. That's pretty good considering the ...
LGBT question - Posted by admin 2015-05-20 06:41:04
Ahh, so when someone tells someone else to leave the site and they don't want that kind of person here anyway it's fine, but if someone else calls someone out on an immature and short sighted view, th...
Absolutely Outraged - Posted by admin 2015-05-16 12:13:26
nor was did I have a way of viewing on screen how much time I had left On the editing page for your argument, the same code that shows you how much time you have left on the debate page is also rig...
OFFICIAL BUG THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-05-16 01:51:09
And also you appear to be ACTUALLY multi-submitting. Hence why earlier when I posted right after you, the duplicate code let you double submit your comment again immediately afterwards. Bug quite...
OFFICIAL BUG THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-05-16 01:49:27
Interesting. Because you're sending out 200 or so notifications. I have 320 notifications right now! The notifications code fires as the submitted message is being parsed, but before the duplicat...
A Resolution - Posted by admin 2015-05-15 11:30:37
I join you.
Which is more morally wrong ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-10 01:37:36
Of course not. I also don't support every child that is born. I think more people should have abortions if they don't want more kids.
Which is more morally wrong ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-10 01:36:45
If that is not the case, then how about you explain why it is okay to value the life of a person with downs syndrome and that of a Mole. Because one is a human and the other isn't. Tragedies a...
Which is more morally wrong ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-10 01:28:24
Just saying - my parents would never have met and I and my brother would never have been born if my mother didn't have an abortion when she was a teen.
Which is more morally wrong ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-10 01:27:23
Well maybe, but my key point is that it's ok to hold humans to a different standard. I don't think it's greedy. I think supporting that pregnancy abhorrent. If the mother dies in childbirth you'd call...
Which is more morally wrong ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-10 01:17:32
She doesn't have a son. She has an unborn child who might one day become a son. I think it's insanely stupid that our society can allow somebody to be forced to have children.
Which is more morally wrong ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-10 01:16:37
It boils down to how far you extend the principle of compassion. Living an omnicompassionate life is basically self-contradictory, and people draw the line as to acceptable suffering in different plac...
Which is more morally wrong ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-10 01:13:07
That young child in Paraguay on the news recently, who was refused an abortion after her stepfather raped her... would you apply the same standard to that? "Oh, she's so selfish!"
Which is more morally wrong ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-10 01:07:06
Humans are a unique case for me. I treat them by different rules arbitrarily.
Which is more morally wrong ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-10 01:05:20
They didn't see it? Seriously though, I mean, when I'm hiking down a trail in the woods and a spider has spun a web across the trail, I break the spider-web to allow myself to pass. It won't destroy t...
Which is more morally wrong ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-10 00:59:30
I had grandparents who lived in an ant-infested house once. You couldn't even leave out a tub of toothpaste in the open - ants would break the seal and eat the toothpaste inside. It was actually horri...
Which is more morally wrong ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-10 00:52:40
If I don't see a moral problem with killing ants en masse, I also have no problem killing other potential infestations, like unwanted potential children. Same sort of reasoning for me.
Which is more morally wrong ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-10 00:46:16
Would you say a person who put out ant poison to deal with an ant infestation, killing a whole colony of ants, is more morally wrong than a murderer?
Which is more morally wrong ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-10 00:37:55
Clearly 2. Don't see a major moral problem with 1 at all.
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 11:47:17
The amount of arrests have fallen by 400,000 since 2007, which means there were 1,400,000 arrests in 2012. That is 1,100,000 more arrests than before the drug war began. Sure, but that tells you not...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 09:09:58
Ah yes, the "truth".
Returning to Our Roots - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 06:36:19
What do you need? More reminders?
Banning Cinema, Music, Video Games, and Books - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 06:35:59
Oh no. Those problems still exist in Somalia, the people there just have bigger fish to fry.
Banning Cinema, Music, Video Games, and Books - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 06:24:14
Exactly. It isn't a ban on child porn, it's just Tony Abbott being a douche.
Banning Cinema, Music, Video Games, and Books - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 06:23:42
I am just asking for a little slack on my taxpayer leash. Give adversity a chance! No one? You are free to move to Somalia.
Banning Cinema, Music, Video Games, and Books - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 06:22:52
Those games don't use real shotguns or real cities though. They use computer simulations. I mean, just somebody doing that in real life and calling it a game.
Banning Cinema, Music, Video Games, and Books - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 06:21:56
You should make a thread in "creative stuff" explaining why. That'll be interesting. I'm ambivalent on it.
Banning Cinema, Music, Video Games, and Books - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 06:21:03
Sure, but then Tony Abbott would probably think any girl under the age of 13 should be locked up or something.
Banning Cinema, Music, Video Games, and Books - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 06:09:34
Not a conventional video game, to be clear. More like real life games.
Banning Cinema, Music, Video Games, and Books - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 06:09:04
Like, giving somebody a real shotgun and getting them to play the game of running around the city finding and killing robots who happen to look a LOT like people. I'd ban that game.
Banning Cinema, Music, Video Games, and Books - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 06:08:03
I agree in general; I would only disagree in the event that the "game" blurred the lines between reality and fantasy a lot to the extent that it wasn't clear whether you were really experien...
Banning Cinema, Music, Video Games, and Books - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 06:05:14
In fairness though, Tony Abbott isn't that intelligent. I wouldn't judge a policy based on Tony Abbott's implementation of it.
Banning Cinema, Music, Video Games, and Books - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 06:03:57
I have a problem with simulated violence and drug use if it's not clear that it is simulated, basically. I think reasonable people should be able to see that for King Kong they didn't literally destro...
Gym class is worthless. - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 05:55:24
As an underweight person my whole life long, I can assure you that point #3 is false.
Banning Cinema, Music, Video Games, and Books - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 05:53:03
NZ isn't perfect. I disagree with my country quite a lot. I think the point was that the film was going to encourage crime. Generally when that happens is when the censor's bureau bans stuff outr...
Banning Cinema, Music, Video Games, and Books - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 05:50:18
Basically I think a work should be censored if: > A crime was committed in producing it. For example, child pornography. > It simulates the committing of a crime in such a way that personall...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 05:37:34
That crime being drug possession. Do you have stats to back this up in any way? Because this sounds like BS. Drug prosecutions have steadily decreased in the USA. http://trac.syr.edu/tracreports/cr...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 04:16:22
The prison per capita population has increased. Sure, but that's because more crime is being committed, too. Did the mafia just pack up and leave after prohibition ended? No, they continued their cr...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 02:47:36
Drug laws have laxened over the past couple of decades. Then let's see what I was referring to... Between 1973 and 1977, however, eleven states decriminalized marijuana possession. In January 1...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 01:14:14
Yeah, except that in the past, drugs were more legal. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't nzlockie grow up in the 70s? I went to boarding school with a bunch of serious stoners. 5 years of being ...
Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 01:02:47
http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows for reference
Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 01:02:07
Aww - I'll miss those fond childhood memories of seeing hundreds of boxes of Windows ME lining the shelves of all the computer stores.
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 00:59:01
Happy to be wise beyond my years then. :)
"Confirm Form Submission" - Posted by admin 2015-05-09 00:10:07
Basically what nzlockie said, but I figured I'd throw in a more technical explanation because I can. Whenever your internet talks to edeb8, that's called a "request". Not just edeb8, bu...
Returning to Our Roots - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 06:21:17
Do you feel "dominated" on edeb8 by "sideline attractions"? How about you stop forfeiting your debates? That would add legitimacy to the debate part of the site. Right now it ...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 05:48:32
My pic wasn't of a stoner, but a famous meth user in NZ. Who, incidentally, DID go on a murderous rampage.
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 05:48:06
Sure, but that's because pot usage is under-reported in science. I have no doubt stigma makes it under-reported even where it is legal. The thing is this - drug usage does go up when it's legal. Every...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 05:45:29
All I'm saying is that I can have an opinion contrary to popular opinion, and still defend the public's right to have a contrary opinion. There's nothing contradictory about that.
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 03:00:53
We should debate one day if formalized constitutions are a good idea. It's like on the simpsons - "I'll just start walking this way punching the air, and if you get hit it's your own fault&q...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 02:58:57
What science? Cannabis is not harmless. Look at the Colerado crime statistics, more and more crimes are being committed on cannabis, above and beyond crimes NOT committed while high on cannabis. That ...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 02:52:58
You cannot sit here and say that other people shouldn't have the choice to take drugs, and also claim that you do not know what is best. Yes I can. I think they shouldn't, but I more strongly trust ...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 02:51:17
I think when people get turned into drug-obsessed zombies, that's as precise and clear as it gets. I'm not at liberty to restrict your liberty - but we are both at liberty to restrict our own lib...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 02:49:02
Sure, but that tells you nothing about the RATE of drug use, just a proportion of the early-adopter population. The rate is actually on the increase: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27212493/marijua...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 02:38:40
People do drugs regardless of legalization. Sorry, but the stats don't support that. Drug use invariably increases with legalization. The message we should be giving people is "don't do drugs, ...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 02:36:43
Once again to reiterate: if I don't know what's best, the drug industry sure as hell doesn't. Imagine if somebody invented a drug that gave people intense pleasure from voting for a particular politic...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 02:32:51
Laws and fought and overcome more easily than drugs. All you need is majority support. Not a high standard. By that logic, however, you'd oppose laws negating your freedom to murder. We give up l...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 01:57:48
... and do I believe in maximizing only my freedoms? No, I'm maximizing everyone's freedoms. Both mine and the drugees. Show me how banning free thought has the same contextual problems as bannin...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 01:54:09
Drugs don't enhance individuality either. Meth users all become less like themselves and more like the behaviors the drug encourages.
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 01:52:13
Is there no decency to the founding fathers of our respective governments? IDK. Were they on crack? Is facing adversity a bad thing, or does it make me a stronger and more independent individua...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 01:48:10
So governments should have no power to control individual choice, but drug cartels should?
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 01:47:55
Sure, I may disagree with some people. Doesn't mean I need to oppose their right to their beliefs, or voicing those beliefs. An open marketplace of ideas is good for all. I don't believe in autho...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 01:32:52
I think a society built upon freedom has every obligation to remove elements from their society that impair their people's ability to exercise choice, to the maximum extent this is possible. Be that o...
Drug Legalization - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 01:31:05
I think drug legalization is generally a liberal position. I'm something of an exception. I think recreational drugs should be either banned (tobacco, marijuana etc) or, in limited cases (notably alco...
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 00:34:42
Talking to them first. And if it continues, ban the offending members. Would have to be quite serious to go that far but there's always that last resort.
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 00:32:56
That's actually a good idea, except that I really don't like the certification process in real life. It leads to other sorts of in-group bias. Still thinking about private requests. It's a comple...
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 00:30:40
Obviously if they did become established I could personally intervene.
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-05-08 00:26:16
Ideas?
New username restrictions - Posted by admin 2015-05-07 20:53:15
Just to explain something technical here. Edeb8 is a database-driven website. One of the key things the database needs to store is lists of users - for example, the list of users involved with an...
IMPORTANT NOTICE due to recent spam - Posted by admin 2015-05-07 00:19:52
There are several ways to qualify. In your case, posting on many threads about the same topic in a short period.
IMPORTANT NOTICE due to recent spam - Posted by admin 2015-05-07 00:06:16
Nothing. You, on the other hand, are offensive for just posting a bunch of posts that qualify as spam. This is your warning.
OFFICIAL BUG THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-05-07 00:02:24
I'm working on a fix for this. @Stag alerted me to irregularities in that group this morning. It's caused by the "|" at the end of your username. Don't remove it so that I can test my fix th...
Need medical advice NOW! - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 20:31:47
When did the community forum become the silly forum?
What words are acceptable to use on Edeb8? - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 20:24:58
@Stag - you think this is worth me fixing? I think I can see the bug, just don't think it's harmful right now...
What words are acceptable to use on Edeb8? - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 20:23:38
you got it
What words are acceptable to use on Edeb8? - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 20:21:30
You wrote "admin," not "admin" If you use an at-tag you have to be supercareful of commas
What words are acceptable to use on Edeb8? - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 20:15:11
@Stag , I figured it out first. It only works if it's the first word.
What words are acceptable to use on Edeb8? - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 20:13:26
@Stag , I mean
What words are acceptable to use on Edeb8? - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 20:13:09
Stag, it's not that easy...
What words are acceptable to use on Edeb8? - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 20:09:49
Unintended positive bug? Lol, bugs are like evolution, most mutations are negative and get removed, while a few are positive and get naturally selected.
What words are acceptable to use on Edeb8? - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 20:08:14
Depends a bit on text honestly. If I feel like a post is likely to be interpreted a vulgar or obscene, that wouldn't be ok. The contract actually bans "profane" language but hey, religious d...
IMPORTANT NOTICE due to recent spam - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 18:54:55
... borderline profane. Certainly a post worthy of a warning. It's funny to me how the same people can attack me for having both too much pity, but then when I ban them they wail on other sites t...
DDO Broken Ban System - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 15:53:08
As many as I arbitrarily feel like giving. Don't break rules. Stay safe.
IMPORTANT NOTICE due to recent spam - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 15:47:32
I hate everyone equally. Deal with it. Nobody will be posting spam around here. That includes, but is not limited to, you.
DDO Broken Ban System - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 15:00:26
On the one hand, it's your first post on the matter in 14 days. On the other hand, the whole site is on edge right now about spam posts. This should probably have been added to one of the threa...
There is only one God - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 14:21:10
No problem then. Now you have it.
There is only one God - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 14:19:00
The times when I've told people that they are technically the same topic. Don't spam threads on a single topic, don't try to game me on what you think are technicalities, and we'll be sweet.
There is only one God - Posted by admin 2015-05-06 14:12:32
I mean I suck at typing because people are wearing me out with having to write out warnings and such. Also, that I've told people that there isn't enough times today.
IMPORTANT NOTICE due to recent spam - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 23:58:39
I'm putting a 24 hour ban on ANY posts from ANY user about "Chickadee". This extends to the forums and all judgments. Posts made in reaction to a Chickadee post will be given a warning, then...
On Behalf of DDO - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 23:50:03
Funnily enough, Max contacted me first, offering his condolences.
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 23:32:50
Sure, but I enforce an objective set of rules based on criteria I clearly stipulate and define. Since you've read this thread the warnings I gave should have been abundantly clear to you. Final w...
There is only one God - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 23:28:07
No, there's not. I've told people there's not enough times today. If people won't listen, bans will follow.
There is only one God - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 16:47:37
SebUK, this is your official warning for mild spamming. In general you should use the minimum number of threads to make a topic, so you shouldn't have a thread here and on community on the same issue,...
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 16:35:18
Spam has different meanings as a verb and noun. And for trolling, may I direct you to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 16:03:48
Great, I wrote them. If you're not spamming or trolling or using profane language on several occasions, then we have no problem. And, as I've said several times, misrepresenting site management k...
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 13:16:23
... and like I said, that's fine provided that it otherwise complies with the site terms.
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 00:44:32
Sorry, this is ban worthy. I'll ban you in a minute or so. I just warned you twice about language, and about a bunch of other things. This is not on. If you're not willing to conform to the basic rule...
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 00:42:30
And what you call proof that you're right is more like a bunch of expletives.
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 00:38:36
Language. Final warning on that too. No agenda. Just being consistent as always.
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 00:22:21
What others call "pity" I generally call "not judging people for their actions on DDO". If you ignore a user's online reputation, I think you'll find my actions make sense. People ...
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 00:16:31
Deleting threads is by accident. Apologies for that. Ban threats are legitimate. I'm simply being consistent with my application of rules.
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 00:12:23
New site fix: me double clicking on the reply to post button by accident should now no longer remove the comment. I think my mouse was being off today.
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 00:10:13
The same way it's not irrelevant to talk about Chickadee un-necessarily. Though it could be spam. I've let comparative threads slide before generally speaking.
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 00:07:15
Yip. See my subsequent post. He was claiming the superiority of edeb8 over ddo on stupid grounds. How is that hateful, shameful, and irrelevant?
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 00:02:08
In reply though, he was claiming the superiority of edeb8 over ddo on stupid grounds. How is that hateful, shameful, and irrelevant?
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-05 00:01:14
I'm so sorry. Deleted your post twice by accident. I really need to move my remove post button further away from my reply button haha
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 23:57:45
Would you not call RxR a troll, who, in this very forum, has posted things more hateful, shameful, and irrelevant than anything I have ever posted? He has bordered on it, but so far as I can tell it...
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 23:51:47
I'm not going to ban you if you haven't broken rules since my final warning. If you want to be banned, you know how. I'd gladly defend that I was fair in this in a debate. And further, that no no...
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 23:44:11
Yeah sorry, but you have. The common law of edeb8 has already determined that: > Posting stuff in a reply that is irrelevant and potentially inflammatory is trolling. Sorry. I applied the same...
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 23:35:26
You're right. Religion is OK. But tenants of that religion that violate other clauses of the ToS, such as posting spam, are not. Also sorry, removed your comment by mistake that time.
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 23:32:01
Sure, but not all expressions of belief are legitimate on this site. Sorry. For example, if I wanted to advocate terrorism, I would not be allowed to do so on these forums (again, for good reason).
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 23:26:51
You posted spam on every forum. You trolled me. And you claimed somebody else was the site mod. If you want you can campaign to allow these three things. Right now they are illegal on the sit...
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 23:21:31
The forums are meant to be a place where conversations are struck about various, emotionally charged topics. Sorry, not this one. This one is primarily for friendly open-form discussion of seriou...
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 23:14:13
Sure, edeb8 limits free expression all the time. Now either leave this stuff to groups, drop the mod claim, or shut up, and all will be fine.
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 23:08:34
Trolling does not mean off topic. Trolling means a post made for no reason other than to get a reaction. Your post was not relevant to mine, rather a statement of a bunch of things that previously got...
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 23:04:19
I don't care how holy he is. It's not funny. This post is clear trolling.
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 22:39:26
Nope, sorry, doesn't fly. Claiming ANYONE else is the mod runs into the same problem. It causes edeb8 to be judged primarily by the actions of that person.
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 22:33:54
Yeah. And there's an important reason. Suppose somebody on the site claims to be a mod and then breaks the site rules in another way. That turns people off the site, and also if our reputation ge...
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 22:25:57
Same goes for you. See my previous post
Chickadee is the one true Mod of the site - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 22:25:15
Daytonanerd, this is an official warning for breaking site rules, most specifically: > claiming somebody else is the site mod, and > spam content If it happens again, you will be banned
Floyd Mayweather Vs Manny Paqiuo - Posted by admin 2015-05-04 02:40:45
I'm saying that Mayweather CERTAINLY was the better BOXER. The problem is, like so many others have said, very few people actually care about boxing. They care about the excitement of watching so...
Floyd Mayweather Vs Manny Paqiuo - Posted by admin 2015-05-03 22:55:20
You could say that about any fight. Looked fair to me. The only thing that was unfair was the scoring haha. Pretty clear this was a fighter vs a points scorer. But that in and of itself was fun.
Floyd Mayweather Vs Manny Paqiuo - Posted by admin 2015-05-03 12:57:24
Just watched the fight. Pretty neat.
New Windows 10 Browser - Posted by admin 2015-05-03 02:49:14
One of the coolest things I think will be annotating pages and sharing those annotations. Could be useful in judging debates and giving feedback.
New Windows 10 Browser - Posted by admin 2015-05-03 00:03:10
Sharing my technology nerdiness in here - what do you all think of Microsoft Edge? Is it as cool as Internet Explorer? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH1D31YHsgY
Your Favorite Quote ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-02 02:51:30
It's hard to tell. Obviously this was some time before the Secret History was written. Nonetheless I think the interpretation is right. Genghis accomplished a lot more through fear than fighting.
WODC2015 Sign Ups - Posted by admin 2015-05-01 22:10:30
So far we've got 4 from DDO and 2 from Edeb8
WODC2015 Sign Ups - Posted by admin 2015-05-01 22:03:18
Meh, JMK is too lol. Lots of DDO loyalists around :)
Your Favorite Quote ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-01 11:15:21
Violence ACHIEVES a lot. It simply doesn't RESOLVE it.
Your Favorite Quote ? - Posted by admin 2015-05-01 07:26:10
I'm still a fan of "Violence never resolves anything" - Ghengis Khan
Suicide Booths Legality - Posted by admin 2015-05-01 04:39:01
The loser who says that needs to realize that not all people of a race share the same image. So what? He's entitled to the view - you can't tell him what he needs to realize any more than I can tell...
WODC2015 Sign Ups - Posted by admin 2015-05-01 01:18:59
This year, the WODC is bigger and better than ever. This year, a (probably new) champion of online debating will be crowned. This year, it could be you. Get excited. The World Online Debate Cup h...
Suicide Booths Legality - Posted by admin 2015-04-30 23:15:20
You can advise, be nice, and help where you can, but at the end of the day the person in question is 100% responsible for his or her own image in others eyes. Explain how that works in the context o...
About damn time - Posted by admin 2015-04-30 21:59:05
nah, I'll support somebody. Last election I got into a bunch of debates defending Ron Paul for the Republican ticket, and Obama once Romney was chosen haha. And yeah, Hillary.
Your opinion on George Tiller ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-30 17:08:54
Like, what are you suggesting it was? Them acting on their moral beliefs? If so, what else did you expect them to do? Its like, if somebody kills somebody, is it moral to kill that person in reta...
Your opinion on George Tiller ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-30 16:24:59
Yes I did. I said villain. Definitely not hero, probably terrorist. I then explained why. He killed some people because they believed differently to him, and incited others to do the same.
Your opinion on George Tiller ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-30 16:15:44
Villain. Pretty clear. Heck, I'd be lynched if I ever went to America, I'm a military abolitionist in favor of strong gun restrictions, abolishing the death penalty, and nobody killing anyone no ...
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-30 16:05:12
The legal definitions for a "person" is "a human being" or "the body of a human being." So, those ARE the physical traits that are required for that legal term. Su...
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-04-30 16:03:05
Right, but that can happen with mandatory RFDs too. Just because RFDs are mandatory doesn't mean the judgment is high quality. Which is why I've always thought the better approach would be to enc...
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-04-30 15:48:05
There's a number of different standards with this. Some people have proposed a minimum number of words or characters in the past (with exact limits also being a debatable issue). In practice I find th...
About damn time - Posted by admin 2015-04-30 06:02:24
Well, I suppose he's better than Clinton.
Who is willing to be active and play mafia? - Posted by admin 2015-04-30 05:41:43
Pretty much not a Mafia site. Everyone active and willing to play Mafia is probably already in the Mafia group, along with the inactive folks.
Suicide Booths Legality - Posted by admin 2015-04-30 05:30:47
My view is that humans are the most interconnected, social species on the planet. We fix other people all the time, and other people fix us. For example, shopkeepers need cash, we need goods. We both ...
Suicide Booths Legality - Posted by admin 2015-04-30 03:01:13
Life is about independent decision making. Why do you think that? Seems to be a premise for your whole view here.
Suicide Booths Legality - Posted by admin 2015-04-30 02:36:00
Sure, but how does suicide enhance liberty or freedom? Death is the removal of the freedom of a person. The long term consequences of suicide in society is perfectly clear - it sucks. And telling peop...
Mobile Users - Posted by admin 2015-04-29 23:38:29
Thanks! :)
Suicide Booths Legality - Posted by admin 2015-04-29 23:36:56
Because imposing a general right on a population to kill themselves is not healthy for that population. People who want death generally need psychiatric support, not a legal right to do so.
Suicide Booths Legality - Posted by admin 2015-04-29 23:30:45
No
Suicide Booths Legality - Posted by admin 2015-04-29 23:28:48
No. Suicide and euthanasia are different. I don't support suicide.
Suicide Booths Legality - Posted by admin 2015-04-29 23:23:41
You don't need to both reply to me and tag me - that gives me two notifications lol. I do support euthanasia but not all suicide qualifies. Supporting physician-assisted suicide in the event of o...
Suicide Booths Legality - Posted by admin 2015-04-29 23:04:04
Do you ever think that if you feel the need to justify whether something is a troll thread, it probably won't get much support?
Dream Job vs Regular Paycheck - Posted by admin 2015-04-29 13:05:33
Yeah, Dream Job vs Big Paycheck would be an interesting choice too haha. I'm inclined to agree, regular paycheck. But in my case it's probably just the whole "grass is greener on the other side&q...
Church of NAC - Posted by admin 2015-04-29 12:57:37
Nah
Dream Job vs Regular Paycheck - Posted by admin 2015-04-29 11:43:00
Which would you prefer, and why?
Your spirit animal ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-29 04:56:55
Lol, who doesn't love edeb8's lack of drama?
Your spirit animal ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-29 04:51:45
Yip, been told that countless times. Even by RXR themselves haha... I do wish sometimes that DDO drama didn't spill over to edeb8 and people stopped caring what max at DDO thinks while on edeb8, at le...
Church of NAC - Posted by admin 2015-04-29 02:26:51
Well at least chickadee is better than KFC.
Church of NAC - Posted by admin 2015-04-28 19:13:14
Do they believe in not-all-caps-ing thread titles?
3 player mafia - Posted by admin 2015-04-28 15:38:48
Then how exactly is it supposed to be different from coin flipping?
3 player mafia - Posted by admin 2015-04-28 12:46:59
Can you explain why? Isn't it just, you have to choose who to lynch, nothing more to it than that? And you have a 50% chance of getting it right?
3 player mafia - Posted by admin 2015-04-28 12:23:36
Wouldn't it be more fun to just toss a coin? No offence. Just seems a bit random as a game.
3 player mafia - Posted by admin 2015-04-28 01:35:52
So let me get this straight - all else being equal, the jester's chance of winning is precisely 50%.
Your opinion on George Tiller ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-27 02:56:09
Not all. I do support euthanasia, for example, something that's (incidentally) not allowed in my country. I don't support war, I do support abortion - I have a lot of complex standards when it comes t...
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-27 02:48:31
Emotional defense is as simple as ignoring the verbal attack, or not caring about the verbal attack. That's like saying recovering from wounds is as simple as ignoring the bullet. Anyone withou...
Your opinion on George Tiller ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-27 02:21:14
Sure, but I wouldn't "challenge" this status quo by murdering people.
Your opinion on George Tiller ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-27 01:56:01
Usually, but the unborn are not classed as human beings in my country either.
Your opinion on George Tiller ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 05:31:23
Accidental duplicate comment removed
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 05:18:29
Believing the world works in certain ways should imply nothing about character. True. ACTING on those beliefs, however, might. So how long does it take to overcome spontaneous emotions? It's...
Your opinion on George Tiller ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 04:55:20
It is, but not to ourselves. I am making a distinction between children in the womb and ourselves.
Your opinion on George Tiller ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 04:46:25
Nope. I'm suggesting there's nothing morally wrong with late term abortion, and even if there was, the killing of George Tiller as an immoral man is unjustified.
Stag's Corner - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 03:47:21
What kind of topics?
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 01:36:48
Just like I agree with pacifism in some scenarios and don't believe in it in others. Being a social darwinist only when it suits you is more commonly referred to as being a bully. And I might add, n...
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 00:57:10
They are two completely different and comprehensive scenarios. You can't just be a social darwinist when it suits you and reject it when it doesn't. Social darwinism is a universal principal. Deal w...
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 00:33:01
Most nations have a court system which protects people from being charged with a felony without multiple pieces of non-verbal evidence. OK, but what if the judge just had a grudge against that pers...
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 00:28:50
What does abortion have to do with freedom of speech? Because your support of free speech is premised on social darwinism. I could call you a terrible name, and it would be a personal choice to...
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 00:24:45
No one is going to get killed over a lie Then how do you explain every single falsely accused person who's ever been on death row? if for some reason people can get killed over a lie, then it i...
Your opinion on George Tiller ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 00:21:03
Spreading diseases occasionally.
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 00:19:36
You know, I've never understood why a social darwinist could possibly oppose abortion. I mean, it's not like unborn babies could ever know this sort of thing.
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 00:18:01
First of all, slander can be physically harmful. If I lie and say somebody's a witch, the rumor can spread and the person be banned at the stake. Second, it can also result in material losses, su...
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 00:13:59
So then you're saying we shouldn't listen to people who tell us to use medicine, ie doctors. In other words, let the whole population get sick and die. SO conducive to society's growth.
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 00:05:25
No it's not. If I claim some poison is medicine and kill a bunch of people with that lie, how does that help society's growth?
Your opinion on George Tiller ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-26 00:04:33
I'm pretty sure that if a giant alive beetle, spider, fly etc comes into your house, you'd probably do something like that.
Your opinion on George Tiller ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-25 15:18:03
If you consider abortion immoral, then that's a sad opinion. But it still doesn't justify his murder. I consider littering to be immoral too, but I don't beat up litterers.
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-25 05:03:19
Why?
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-25 04:48:24
And yet slander is a law. And being a law, judges have no choice but to apply it. Of course, for the record, a general right of free speech does not mean unlimited freedom to speak. There can sti...
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-25 04:41:55
Removed duplicate comment
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-25 04:40:21
I think it's actually legitimate if the university could be seen to promote her message. If the university was siding with her over him rather than remaining neutral, I could see why they'd be party t...
Rape Tort Law - Posted by admin 2015-04-25 03:47:25
I thought this was really interesting: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11438558 It's about that Columbia University girl with the mattress protesting that rap...
Your spirit animal ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-25 02:14:22
Can I also just take a moment to acknowledge @RXR. putting something in the correct thread for once.
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-24 23:49:38
either "BREATHING" nor consciousness are requirements for personhood I actually agree. Physical traits do not describe either life or personhood. BIOLOGY is the "study of LIFE.&q...
Anonymous - Posted by admin 2015-04-24 23:35:33
No. I am all of anonymous. Whenever a poem says it was penned by "anonymous", that's me.
Mobile Users - Posted by admin 2015-04-24 03:12:44
As updates continue to make edeb8 as mobile-friendly as possible, please note that you can now easily switch between the non-responsive (old) and responsive (new) modes of edeb8 using the links in the...
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-04-24 01:23:47
This is possible now. You'll need to enable the notification in your settings though.
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-24 00:57:01
"Preview" buttons exist now so people can check their formatting before posting.
OFFICIAL BUG THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-04-24 00:15:37
were these "couple of images" possibly data uri images again like you tried to do in a debate recently causing that weird cutoff error there?
Anonymous - Posted by admin 2015-04-23 23:36:12
I am Anonymous
Saudi Arabia ends military intervention - Posted by admin 2015-04-23 15:09:40
Given all this... how long do you think it'll last? 'Cause this sounds pretty short term to me.
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-23 15:01:11
Basically I'm under contract with my host never to distribute content that meets certain conditions. Almost all hosts have such a clause. If Facebook owns their own servers they can distribute what th...
Your spirit animal ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-23 10:41:05
The first one thinks I'm a dolphin.
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-23 05:04:56
The moderation issue is that I need to be able to moderate everything on the site for various legal reasons, but especially public stuff - hard to do when there's been something like 20 edits on a pos...
Email outage - Posted by admin 2015-04-23 04:54:04
FYI, the hosting company for edeb8 reported an email outage that could have affected emails over the past 2 days. They apologize if anyone hasn't been getting mails. I have, but I thought I'd sha...
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-23 03:03:52
Fun facts: 1) edeb8 is not a forum board site. It is a debate site that happens to have a forum board. 2) even if posts lock after an hour, people could break rules during that hour. I can't moder...
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-23 02:38:12
You will recall the basic moderation problem with an edit button. Tracking possibly infinite changes is a haven for trolls to exploit, and more complex systems are both easier to find loopholes in and...
Aliens ? Ufo's ? Illuminazi's ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-23 02:35:02
I thought this news piece was the funniest thing ever. What a thing to have to deny. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11436837
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-23 00:37:41
Noted. A "preview" button shall be added to my feature request list.
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-22 14:15:42
That... has got to be some of the most messed up tagging I've ever seen haha. I'll respond in the morning.
OFFICIAL BUG THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-04-22 03:27:18
... do you remember what the thread was about / was supposed to contain? I'm going to see whether I can reproduce it.
OFFICIAL BUG THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-04-22 01:32:46
What's the group/thread? Did you ever get it to submit?
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 17:18:03
How settled does the science have to be for you to accept the biological fact that a child in the womb is alive? I hate the phrase "settled science." Science by definition is never "s...
Opinions on Charlie Hebdo ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 16:22:48
Congratulations on learning not to put absolutely everything in the edeb8.com subforum. Now you need to learn to go to the SOCIETY subforum, not the community subforum. Still, I mean, it's p...
And people say that DDO is better than edeb8.com - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 15:58:40
Can you please stop making threads comparing us to DDO?
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 13:17:40
It's fine, I won't be introducing a paywall anytime soon haha.
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 13:16:21
Thanks!
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 07:38:38
... I ... will not ... give up ...
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 03:27:09
... and again. This thread needs to stay on top haha.
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 03:26:41
Fetuses are conscious of their own existence I'd like to see where medical science proves that, because it's different from what I've read. being chopped up hurts just a fetus just as much as i...
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 02:55:53
.... more casual yet futile bumping ...
Meanwhile at debate.org - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 02:54:39
To be fair, when Imabench was attacking me on DDO, that was 50% of my interactions on that site at least. Vicious people are just vicious people. Which I why I sort of try and stand in the middle...
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 02:52:56
Hmmm... I totally don't have a problem with these images but I feel like some people might. Meh, I'll let it pass. I really don't care what a foetus looks like and don't see how it's relevant anyway. ...
Reasonable Iranian Peace Plan Denied by Hadi + GCC - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 02:22:32
I'm not saying France is flooded by Muslims. I'm saying France THINKS it's flooded by Muslims. Hence when Italy takes on more boat people, France gets mad.
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 02:21:26
When a fetus is not yet "alive" I don't see why "chance to live" is relevant. And this is ultimately what it comes down to: I don't think that certain organs functioning or whateve...
Reasonable Iranian Peace Plan Denied by Hadi + GCC - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 02:13:18
Germany's becoming increasingly France-like too. Though to be fair they've been like that since the 60s with all the Turks coming in. Or even earlier if you want to go back to the Third Reich haha. An...
Meanwhile at debate.org - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 02:09:58
Yes. But not to tell him to go away. See the difference yet? On the one you're calling his actions childish, backing up that statement with evidence on such, while on the other you're attacking him pe...
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 02:07:27
Well, I gave you two answers to that question. Heck, if a baby gets abandoned by its mother, picked up by somebody else, that baby has a very good chance of survival at 2 weeks. Not so much as a fetus...
Reasonable Iranian Peace Plan Denied by Hadi + GCC - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 01:53:35
The trouble with being part of the EU is that once they go to Italy they immediately go to France lol.
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 01:12:44
Yes it is possible. It's going on my to-do list for once these mobile fixes are done :)
Reasonable Iranian Peace Plan Denied by Hadi + GCC - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 01:11:45
To be fair, that's because Libyan boats keep capsizing, so they don't even need to take that many in. Offering them a protected pathway into Italy would make Italians scared I think.
Is this stealing ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 01:10:18
IDC because it's in the wrong subforum. Also, your example confuses possession and ownership.
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 01:08:28
I'm also going to casually bump this thread because it's actually relevant and important. What would people debate towards. What sort of milestones should there be. That sort of thing.
Is this stealing ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 01:06:51
Is this NOT IN THE SOCIETY SUBFORUM! Put threads like this where they belong, seesh. It isn't DDO.
Meanwhile at debate.org - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 00:39:36
Oh yeah, this is totally fine :)
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 00:34:56
So to clarify - you'd be willing to donate towards paying for advertisements on other sites?
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-21 00:28:27
No you don't. Even in late stages of pregnancy you don't have a BREATHING entity. And you certainly don't have consciousness.
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 18:29:17
Woo hoo!
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 18:29:01
Well that all depends. I mean, my computer has a circulatory system and is not alive. Liquid cooling. Basically no definition of life in general will say that a circulatory system is a standard. Plent...
A general reminder about this forum - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 18:24:09
Somehow having the odd thread not being in the right place being a slippery slope to elitism seems taking the slippery slope argument a bit too far I think haha.
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 17:01:13
Keeps the blood apart, from memory, though I could be wrong. Still I'd consider that very arbitrary too. Cancerous cells are also self-contained in their environment.
A general reminder about this forum - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 16:55:22
I don't like seeing this site (already) starting to go down the same path as DDO and others - where it becomes all about the popularity of the members and the 'elite' and less and less about the issue...
A general reminder about this forum - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 16:44:56
I've always been happy to take on help BTW, experienced site members just routinely tell me we don't need another mod and newer members routinely tell me we do. It's a weird thing. I'd love more help ...
A general reminder about this forum - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 16:29:06
I mean, seriously, does this actually matter so much to anyone at all? If it's just a few isolated cases than executing a database query just for this is simply not worth it lol. Carry on with all you...
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 15:04:17
I thought you said you'd be doing Java? It's like the opposite of Javascript haha. Well, if you're doing both then good on the faculty I guess.
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 14:46:09
Why wouldn't you just use c++ then? It's got objects. Makes it way better. Also, I don't have the slightest notion why courses don't teach javascript either. THAT would be a useful teaching langu...
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 14:40:47
C's not an easy language, especially for memory management and such. I wish computer courses would teach C++ lol, it's a way better language. I've always felt like Java isn't very well suited to ...
Did the mobile format change? - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 13:47:58
As an aside, the thread number of this thread is the same as the year of the Norman invasion of England haha. Big milestone!
Did the mobile format change? - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 13:31:32
As an aside, http://m.edeb8.com/ is now live if you want to see the site more or less how it looked before on mobile :)
Did the mobile format change? - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 12:56:13
Or, y'know, you could wait a few hours for me to fix up the format / make the subdomain. Seriously, I mean, I'm doing this for free, for you. Giving you the option to have it like it used to be as wel...
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 12:51:37
You'll improve one day for sure :D
Did the mobile format change? - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 12:47:37
Noted about the profile/notifications, though if you calmed down things would go a lot simpler... not sure what you mean by "upside-down" or "they" haha? Things should be good...
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 12:45:15
Edeb8 runs on PHP, which generates HTML. Though I'm happy for any help haha. :D
Did the mobile format change? - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 11:31:15
While I'm at it, it would be useful to know what annoys you about the current mobile layout haha. Give me stuff to work on :D
Did the mobile format change? - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 11:26:10
Yes it did, and calm down. Google changed the way they rank sites. If we hadn't made this change, we would have been thrown off the search results. I'm working on two things tonight: 1) cr...
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 10:35:40
The following people expressed this sentiment in that thread: @1harderthanyouthink @ButterCatx @Sovi (ie everyone who answered the survey haha)
Fundraising - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 05:55:55
A few people indicated in the community survey @Sovi put up that they'd like to see edeb8 take donations, and a couple of new features. What I'd like to know is what people would actually donate ...
Poetry - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 05:44:42
Here's a sad poem I really love: ONE more Unfortunate, Weary of breath, Rashly importunate, Gone to her death! Take her up tenderly, Lift her with care; Fashion'd ...
Reasonable Iranian Peace Plan Denied by Hadi + GCC - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 05:38:51
I agree, but do you think Europe would take them?
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 05:38:03
I'm a fan of substantively equal rights. For example, I can understand the idea of a womens / mens segregated refuge shelter, because sometimes to treat people equally you have to treat them different...
A general reminder about this forum - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 05:21:55
I: 1) can't be bothered 2) don't actually care that much It's honestly ok, just a reminder for next time I guess
A general reminder about this forum - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 03:57:46
I know abortion is an important issue and all, but can we in future keep this subforum dedicated to the site, and use the SOCIETY subforum for stuff like that? That is all.
Your opinion on George Tiller ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 03:55:51
You know, stories like this are why America seems crazy to most of the liberalized world. Even if he WAS a baby killer he did not deserve the death penalty, and certainly not by being shot like that w...
Your opinion on debate.org ? rant - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 03:50:26
In other points - what do you honestly think this will achieve at this stage? You've made the point - I believe you, even. The guy was terrible on DDO. In the sake of keeping everyone civil and happy,...
Your opinion on debate.org ? rant - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 03:48:44
Tip: Uncheck the "enable auto-quoting" box if you want to paste text without putting quote tags around it :)
Your opinion on debate.org ? rant - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 03:47:51
Now crawl back to the corner and think about your life. Just a friendly reminder that if I'd just told Sovi not to engage in ad hom attacks over petty stuff like this, then you probably shouldn'...
Poetry - Posted by admin 2015-04-20 00:39:53
Then post some happy poetry to balance it out :)
Poetry - Posted by admin 2015-04-19 12:02:58
Did y'all know it's national poetry month in the US? Everybody share your favorite poem! Or your second favorite. Or just find a poem and share it. Or write an original poem. Poems are fun!
Your opinion on debate.org ? rant - Posted by admin 2015-04-19 08:52:52
Of course you can hold an opinion and it can be an attack at the same time. It's not banned per say, but it isn't very nice either, is it? All I'm saying is that we should be friendly to each other ar...
Reasonable Iranian Peace Plan Denied by Hadi + GCC - Posted by admin 2015-04-19 08:51:27
with out being persecuted Pfft... as if that ever happens in the middle east.
Reasonable Iranian Peace Plan Denied by Hadi + GCC - Posted by admin 2015-04-19 06:54:11
The first among recent civil wars where all sides have routinely denied perfectly reasonable peace proposals.
Reasonable Iranian Peace Plan Denied by Hadi + GCC - Posted by admin 2015-04-19 05:46:10
"You know, we did it first!" - Syria
Your opinion on debate.org ? rant - Posted by admin 2015-04-19 05:00:49
"Go away" = attacking the person "Your opinions are unfair" = attacking their opinions In case nobody else caught the difference. ;)
Your opinion on debate.org ? rant - Posted by admin 2015-04-19 04:55:03
I don't believe it is fair to judge somebody for their behavior on another website. If he violates our rules, he will be removed. Otherwise, I find this kind of thing totally unfair and counterproduct...
Your opinion on debate.org ? rant - Posted by admin 2015-04-19 04:53:34
"Go away!" isn't the nicest thing to say here. It's his opinion, he's entitled to it.
Military Use of Heat Wave Effect - Posted by admin 2015-04-19 01:49:45
I think they'd sooner fry their enemies than impair their vision.
Why such a low-fanbase ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-18 09:36:18
Yeah, I have a MASSIVE respect for TUF. Smart guy, one of the few DDO guys I trust. He did a ton of work behind the scenes and was amazingly dedicated.
Why such a low-fanbase ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-18 09:35:24
Airmax of course. He had all the forum people on his side. My contention at the time was that airmax didn't understand debating and basically came to DDO as a career politician, which frankly I stand ...
Why such a low-fanbase ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-18 09:25:10
Not "still", a bunch of folks have come and gone like TUF, bladerunner etc
Why such a low-fanbase ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-18 09:05:07
If I'm not mistaken the first "mod" was innomen and ore_ele, followed by airmax. It went with the presidency at one point.
Why such a low-fanbase ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-18 09:02:32
Nah, I've never been a DDO mod. I ran against Airmax for president once and since then we never got along. This was before there were "mods".
Why such a low-fanbase ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-18 06:51:47
In fairness I joined DDO earlier than airmax did :P
Why such a low-fanbase ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-18 06:10:16
Since early November 2013.
Why such a low-fanbase ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-18 06:02:59
Not exactly but it was somewhat more. Mostly because there were less alternatives back then. This was late 2008/early 2009 or so. I didn't join DDO until mid 2010.
Why such a low-fanbase ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-18 05:57:59
It varies. 10-40 I'd say, a number of folks lurk. These last couple of days we've had 60-70 unique IPs hit the site daily. The number varies a lot though through the weeks and days. Some are more acti...
New Site Feature: Edeb8 Issues - Posted by admin 2015-04-18 02:44:55
As new topics are added, they'll be added to the issues automatically. They both are drawn from the same list/file.
New Site Feature: Edeb8 Issues - Posted by admin 2015-04-18 02:11:22
In case anyone doesn't notice, you can now flip-flop on positions by going to the new tab on your profile and clicking on the issue you want to change your mind on.
Why such a low-fanbase ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-18 01:11:46
Sometimes I'm alone here too haha. Partly it's that we don't have a critical mass of users. Partly it's that some ex users got frustrated with others' opinions. And partly it's that, being a smal...
Your opinion on abortion ? - Posted by admin 2015-04-18 01:09:24
I'm all pro-choice. I have more compassion for the cows and chickens I eat than I do for aborted foetuses. Sorry if that makes me sound like a monster. I agree with making mothers as informed as possi...
Should the UN nations recognize Houthis authority? - Posted by admin 2015-04-17 03:24:52
Honestly that would have been interesting. Would have thrown me a bit I think.
Your opinion on debate.org ? rant - Posted by admin 2015-04-17 01:55:05
I was on DDO for years before making Edeb8. Edeb8 is more like the kind of site I think DDO should have been. Less focus on maximizing the number of users and drama, more focus on fun and debating! I ...
New Members Survey - Posted by admin 2015-04-16 12:26:01
Bit of a shame. Would have been interested in this. Maybe it should be a whole site survey lol?
New Site Feature: Edeb8 Issues - Posted by admin 2015-04-14 21:25:26
Woah, dedicated. Not even I've gone through them all yet! :)
New Site Feature: Edeb8 Issues - Posted by admin 2015-04-14 21:10:23
Go to the page and re-answer them. When I add them to profiles it'll be easier to add in a toggle switch or something on issues you've answered as part of that interface.
New Site Feature: Edeb8 Issues - Posted by admin 2015-04-14 21:09:34
I'm scared of that turning into something more like DDO's Opinions though. People might start arguing there instead of in debates.
New Site Feature: Edeb8 Issues - Posted by admin 2015-04-14 10:10:56
Edeb8 Issues is my attempt at getting people excited about a broader range of debate topics again. See it in action at http://www.edeb8.com/issues. Still being tested so let me know of any bugs if ...
New Members Survey - Posted by admin 2015-04-12 21:19:04
This is indeed a huge list of questions! :)
Badges Feature - Posted by admin 2015-04-12 02:22:09
Badge notifications should now be active. You'll get a little message whenever you earn a new badge.
So I have a new idea for a multiplayer-only game.. - Posted by admin 2015-04-10 10:22:14
I would HOPE that DLC would be free. Sounds like the sort of thing the base game should really have. Honestly I usually find the success of games like this depends on factors such as how good the m...
Debate Challenge Advertisement Thread - Posted by admin 2015-04-09 05:16:33
Nice topic!
Aralkum Nation - Posted by admin 2015-04-08 04:18:59
True.
What freedom of religion is and is not - Posted by admin 2015-04-08 03:37:07
Hell no. #1, even if less than 50% believed in religion, that's still not an end to religious belief. #2, modern life is not easy or hedonistic. It's human nature to find challenges. People 50 years a...
What freedom of religion is and is not - Posted by admin 2015-04-08 03:19:34
Right, so because not teaching children religion would make religion less popular (I actually think the opposite is true - forcing religion on people, particularly when the state does it in a theocrac...
Aralkum Nation - Posted by admin 2015-04-08 01:57:13
Probably because the land already belongs to somebody else. The only parts of the planet not currently claimed are a large chunk of antarctica (which nobody can claim thanks to the antarctic treaty) a...
What freedom of religion is and is not - Posted by admin 2015-04-08 01:54:46
Why do you think it should be a right?
I'm going for a hike - Posted by admin 2015-04-02 09:31:56
Nah, I've been around there enough. Time to go around Mt Ruapehu again! :) My favorite spot in the country.
I'm going for a hike - Posted by admin 2015-04-02 09:21:53
To be fair, if last year is any indication, almost nobody can complete every round of a 5 round tournament.
I'm going for a hike - Posted by admin 2015-04-01 23:06:01
Take your free draw in R1, forfeit R2, win rounds 3+4+5. With the lower break standards this year you'll still easily be able to win.
I'm going for a hike - Posted by admin 2015-04-01 19:48:49
You'll be back just in time to sign up for the WODC then! :) Have an awesome trip!
I'm going for a hike - Posted by admin 2015-04-01 11:29:26
Leaving on Friday, returning on Wednesday. As somebody in GMT+13, that's roughly Thursday-Tuesday if you happen to live in the US. So I can't do stuff around the site at that time. Everyone behave ...
Badges Feature - Posted by admin 2015-04-01 04:35:28
To be fair, 1/5 is only attainable by being me.
Badges Feature - Posted by admin 2015-03-31 00:45:53
Badges have now been rolled out around the site! Also working on a notification if you earn a new badge level.
Badges Feature - Posted by admin 2015-03-28 11:55:29
Hey y'all, I'm testing out a new feature. Don't run for cover just yet! It's safely contained only to my profile for now. You can see it in action by looking underneath my statistics box (that thin...
EDEB8 Groups: Advertise Here - Posted by admin 2015-03-28 10:22:51
Writer's Group Apparently in another thread I discovered recently we have a few writers on here! Let's have a group for that! The Writer's Group is the place to be if writing interests you at all -...
Awesome music thread 2 - Posted by admin 2015-03-25 00:59:19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NJqUN9TClM
Serious Problem - Posted by admin 2015-03-24 22:27:35
I don't want to debate you and Larz over and over again and no one else debates. Just to share my take on this. I've had about 61 debates on edeb8, of which I believe 3 were against Sovi. It's not a...
300 members! - Posted by admin 2015-03-24 05:28:08
True. The two sites that got the biggest response when I told them about edeb8 were Reddit (r/debate) and DDO. I tried on other sites too but they weren't so interested. Basically I just posted once i...
Serious Problem - Posted by admin 2015-03-24 05:21:16
Wait wait wait. I never said that. I judge people for how they act on edeb8. I don't judge people for how they might have acted on DDO. But I would never say not to mention or talk about it, so long a...
Republican Jesus - Posted by admin 2015-03-23 05:26:36
I don't know about all this. I think a lot of government already had similar ideology and ideals prior to Jesus' time. And people did bring ideals to a bigger stage. I also disagree Jesus paved the...
Republican Jesus - Posted by admin 2015-03-22 09:18:40
Jesus never said to not bring your ideals to a bigger stage. In fact, that was what he did. Is it? Did he ask the authorities to follow his ideals? Because if my bible lessons are accurate that's no...
The Creative Writing Thread - Posted by admin 2015-03-22 09:11:59
We should all have an edeb8 short story / poetry competition or something! :)
Blitz Debate - Posted by admin 2015-03-21 22:41:39
Pretty much. And yes, you would get to know the topic for that week.
Republican Jesus - Posted by admin 2015-03-21 07:48:43
Yeah. We all know that New Zealand is God's Own Country (tm), so we might as well stop the arguments.
When we vilify our enemies - Posted by admin 2015-03-21 07:13:00
True. I remember a recent Israeli election being won based on similar fears.
Debate Topics - Posted by admin 2015-03-21 06:35:02
A secret topic is where the sides agree to debate, but don't know the topic in advance. The site picks a random topic from that list when all sides have accepted / the debate starts (unless you choose...
Debate Topics - Posted by admin 2015-03-21 06:28:52
If you need inspiration, here's the official site list of current secret topics: http://www.edeb8.com/motions.txt
300 members! - Posted by admin 2015-03-21 06:16:56
323
Hello I Am New - Posted by admin 2015-03-21 06:16:15
He doesn't like me publically saying who he was because he was kinda infamous there. Edeb8 reformed him in a way.
Hello I Am New - Posted by admin 2015-03-21 05:24:50
The WODC this year runs from June to August, but because it's literally one of the most complex debate tournaments on the net, there's about 1-2 months of preparing. This year with the new chief judge...
Hello I Am New - Posted by admin 2015-03-21 05:07:57
Just casually bumping this thread so people see it, whenever all you normal people are back online. Just wait a month until the WODC preparations start in earnest - it's a tournament where we challeng...
Forum layout change - Posted by admin 2015-03-21 04:48:15
They're changes I've already made :) This thread was more directed at people who'd seen what it looked like before. Basically it looked pretty much like group forums do now, if you're interested. W...
Forum layout change - Posted by admin 2015-03-19 21:29:04
The reason I've never done this is because it would make moderation really hard. Hard to moderate content somebody has edited anyway. Particularly on a forum where people are going at each other.
Forum layout change - Posted by admin 2015-03-19 11:42:30
So I take it you like this change and want to see me change the buttons more as well, or... ?
Forum layout change - Posted by admin 2015-03-19 11:42:03
Do you REALLY need to bring this up every time I mention anything related to the forums?
Forum layout change - Posted by admin 2015-03-19 10:07:32
Thoughts people?
New feature: Debate round pre-drafting - Posted by admin 2015-03-18 00:36:05
Would that screw up timings and make people not spend the prep phase doing research?
New feature: Debate round pre-drafting - Posted by admin 2015-03-17 03:56:12
You can now start drafting your debate rounds before it's your turn to post! Should work anytime after the prep phase while there are still rounds for you to post. As per usual let me know if anyth...
This or that II - Posted by admin 2015-03-17 02:30:29
Bringing back one of the most popular forum games from the early days of the site. :) Circles or squares?
Blitz Debate - Posted by admin 2015-03-14 22:37:01
Well when it's done, I'll do this blitz debate :)
Science-y Question - Posted by admin 2015-03-14 09:57:02
Wouldn't that also draw our own solar system towards the really heavy object? I mean, what you're proposing is effectively pretty much a black hole, so...
Blitz Debate - Posted by admin 2015-03-14 09:55:22
I'd be up for it but the team debate is more important to me
Job's life and the Bible. - Posted by admin 2015-03-14 03:03:34
No. In fact I bring it up because I find their arguments particularly strange. I think in the last 20 years or so there's been something of a streak of new-wave conservatism in Christianity. I don't k...
Job's life and the Bible. - Posted by admin 2015-03-14 02:50:41
I give you my express consent :)
Job's life and the Bible. - Posted by admin 2015-03-14 02:50:11
The reason why is irrelevant to me though. I only care about the fact you believe that if somebody thinks they need to kill everyone in the name of the Bible, they must be correct. It doesn't even mat...
Job's life and the Bible. - Posted by admin 2015-03-14 02:39:26
Oh alright. So your view is that extreme interpretations of the bible are "prophecy" and thus guided by the Holy Spirit. Got it. ;)
Job's life and the Bible. - Posted by admin 2015-03-14 02:16:15
So you think one cannot interpret the Bible radically? Is that another thing Christians believe?
Job's life and the Bible. - Posted by admin 2015-03-13 22:57:22
My original point of "this is what christians actually believe" is not a red herring. Christians do actually believe what olive 2 wrote in his initial post. And if you consider, say, the sto...
Job's life and the Bible. - Posted by admin 2015-03-13 22:36:24
Oh right, so if a religion is small it's ok to fully characterize that religion's beliefs? You seriously think that?
Job's life and the Bible. - Posted by admin 2015-03-13 22:35:29
It wasn't me who brought up true Christians, I just said Christians. But true Christians is funnier so I ran with it.
Job's life and the Bible. - Posted by admin 2015-03-13 05:28:07
Finally somebody gets it. If a Christian says that the Christian faith involves *controversial/crazy-sounding statement here*, that's ok but it's just another belief.
RIP Terry Pratchett - Posted by admin 2015-03-13 02:58:23
Aww, I really liked his books... :(
WW3 Strategy Discussion - Posted by admin 2015-03-13 00:44:25
The moment we are talking about the United States is when your comments might actually make an impact. It's ok if you're not, but I'm talking about Russia in the context of the world's nations, as o...
Job's life and the Bible. - Posted by admin 2015-03-12 06:21:52
But I suppose your post above there would be another example of where I would put that little warning message of "***This is what Christians actually believe:***"
Job's life and the Bible. - Posted by admin 2015-03-12 06:20:53
It's not even that important really. Here is another example of where I would apply it. ***This is what Christians actually believe:*** The problem is that a gay wedding is a celebration of two pe...
WW3 Strategy Discussion - Posted by admin 2015-03-12 04:57:00
A bit of my thing got cut off there. While it's impossible to say exactly by how much... it would be statistically impossible for it to be below 50%. He did actually win that election, be it by ...
WW3 Strategy Discussion - Posted by admin 2015-03-12 04:53:34
You act as if Red Herrings on the US are acceptable arguments. I think they aren't red herrings. They inform the political and social context in which this discussion is taking place. As they say, i...
Job's life and the Bible. - Posted by admin 2015-03-12 04:00:55
I amend my statement then. ***IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS THEN YOU CANNOT CALL YOURSELF A TRUE CHRISTIAN.***
Job's life and the Bible. - Posted by admin 2015-03-12 03:22:58
Well if you can put "this is what scientologists actually believe" in front of higher OT level material and that's ok, then I don't see why my original statement can't apply to Christians. O...
Job's life and the Bible. - Posted by admin 2015-03-12 03:14:56
I feel like sometimes when I read some people's bible interpretations there should be a little preface stamped above it: "***This is what Christians actually believe:***"
WW3 Strategy Discussion - Posted by admin 2015-03-12 02:40:11
... so nobody who's ever spoken out against the US government has been killed for doing so? That's quite a statement. Look, I can name about twenty living Russians who at some point in their lives ...
WW3 Strategy Discussion - Posted by admin 2015-03-12 01:53:48
Assassination is not peaceful. There's nothing stopping fixing the Russian government through diplomacy. Better yet, convince the Russian people to vote differently. Russia is a democracy, you know? P...
WW3 Strategy Discussion - Posted by admin 2015-03-12 01:44:42
That proves that Putin is NOT the only problem then. You don't like the whole Russian government. Don't forget that, contrary to foregin belief, Putin's power is mostly as a very influential figurehea...
WW3 Strategy Discussion - Posted by admin 2015-03-11 21:41:52
I don't necessarily agree about Putin, but even if he was, you'd wage a war against Russia because you want to kill one guy? That's insane. Just assassinate Putin if that's all you want to do. Better ...
Slight variation on the wikipedia topic game - Posted by admin 2015-03-11 21:24:30
I remember Digg! Lol. Pretty sure that DDO still has that Digg sharing button. :D
WW3 Strategy Discussion - Posted by admin 2015-03-11 21:22:38
Sounds like a foregone conclusion to me. Are you sure you're not living in the 1950s?
WW3 Strategy Discussion - Posted by admin 2015-03-11 12:40:24
Why do you think WW3 would involve attacks on Russia?
Slight variation on the wikipedia topic game - Posted by admin 2015-03-11 12:39:20
Ah, it doesn't like https links. Will need to fix that one day
Slight variation on the wikipedia topic game - Posted by admin 2015-03-11 12:39:00
http://www.reddit.com/r/random/
Slight variation on the wikipedia topic game - Posted by admin 2015-03-11 12:38:31
https://www.reddit.com/r/random/
Slight variation on the wikipedia topic game - Posted by admin 2015-03-11 12:38:15
Not sure why my linker didn't like that link... https://www.reddit.com/r/random maybe?
Slight variation on the wikipedia topic game - Posted by admin 2015-03-11 12:37:21
Wikipedia has a lot of really useless articles. There's only so many topics you can do specifically pertaining to some specific baseball player from the 1920s, so most articles were interpreted pretty...
Open team debate challenge - Posted by admin 2015-03-11 11:24:32
... just me and Sovi then? 'Cause I kinda need at least 4 peeps to help me out here.
OFFICIAL BUG THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-03-09 23:06:28
What @Sovi said.
Arguments you feel are poor - Posted by admin 2015-03-09 00:01:49
Why do you think that's a poor argument?
Open team debate challenge - Posted by admin 2015-03-08 15:32:19
It's for testing. But we might as well do it seriously.
Open team debate challenge - Posted by admin 2015-03-08 13:22:48
Hey y'all, I want to test team collaboration on HTML formatted rounds. Who's keen to help me out?
Eugenics - Posted by admin 2015-03-07 08:01:40
We DON'T let some people breed. Just that it's not that many people. It's never such a joke though with forced chemical castration, which actually routinely happens in our world... literally, there...
Eugenics - Posted by admin 2015-03-07 05:43:40
Depends on how loosely you define eugenics. Abortion can be loosely seen as a eugenic decision if on the basis of, say, a genetic illness in the child. It's just not the overt "better breeding pr...
Let's pick up the number of judgments again! - Posted by admin 2015-03-07 05:37:05
The idea of nominating judges before the debate I implemented in the past. Other users disliked it and I removed it. Still, we beat DDO to implementing that feature by about a week ;) Signing up judge...
Pirates and Emperors - Posted by admin 2015-03-06 11:54:04
Funny that. Pirates never criticised their pirate captains either, and the emperor's subjects never criticised the new emperor. It's called the emperor's new clothes phenomenon I believe.
Pirates and Emperors - Posted by admin 2015-03-06 10:15:32
Indeed. There exist many words and their meanings are pretty loosely defined most of the time anyway. Doesn't just apply to international politics I think.
OFFICIAL BUG THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-03-05 21:14:34
What's the poll, options, and group. I'll see if I can recreate it.
Let's pick up the number of judgments again! - Posted by admin 2015-03-03 09:25:46
One of my debates just went unjudged, so I really want to see this go up again! How about everyone pledges to judge a debate or two every week? That would be extremely useful. Post your own ideas f...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-03-01 05:54:15
It's not what I think makes the delineation though. This is a straw man. My argument was that a person's (unchanging) traits should be held to a different standard than their beliefs. This would be my...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-03-01 05:38:51
So your counter-argument for why my standard is bad is because it's artificial (I don't think so but you don't justify it beyond that either). Your standard ("disturbing the peace") is equal...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-03-01 05:22:33
OK. But I wasn't asking if you'd accept it. I was asking if you'd agree my argument was otherwise correct. Like, is it really your only objection that homosexuality is not genetic so we should be allo...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-03-01 04:54:16
OK, but you didn't answer my question, just re-asserted that there isn't. I'm asking a hypothetical of you.
Bringing this up for a third time - Posted by admin 2015-03-01 04:49:40
But surely the argument can be fallacious, like that one was. Questions are not really free of fallacies just because they are questions. Loaded questions etc are fallacies if, and only if, you con...
Bringing this up for a third time - Posted by admin 2015-03-01 04:42:55
What if a question contains an argument? Like, do you agree that because Germany is red, you can "have it your way"?
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-03-01 04:39:26
This, too, should be put in a different thread. Let's keep this focused on the freedom to mock the central figure of a particular religion.
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-03-01 04:38:25
If there was a gay gene, would you agree that I'm otherwise right? Because honestly you're just sounding contrarian bringing this up in a thread on a different topic.
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-03-01 00:00:03
Well, I guess there's a material difference I can see between "gays should kill themselves" and "the Islamic prophet was a douche", but I guess you'd call that semantics. I think i...
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-02-26 06:50:15
I should lock it in a few hours just to mess with people... :P
War on ISIS - Posted by admin 2015-02-25 00:23:46
Boko Haram is pretty ruthless. They too intend to cause fear. I mean, from what I gather, ISIS primarily consists of everyone from the region with nothing better to do than go shoot people. I think th...
War on ISIS - Posted by admin 2015-02-24 15:42:53
As supported by my facebook pals lol, reposted from a random guy I know from Weta Digital: why aren't we attacking Boko Haram in Nigeria or Al Shabab in Kenya given the level of atrocities committe...
War on ISIS - Posted by admin 2015-02-24 12:53:39
Quick thought provoking quote from my dad's blog here: The US successfully ignored the deadliest war since World War Two (the first and follow-on second Congo Wars). It stayed out of the Syrian civ...
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. - Posted by admin 2015-02-24 08:17:35
If you agree with nzlockie's watchmaker argument, how can you preclude other gods?
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. - Posted by admin 2015-02-24 08:07:08
So... you don't care if you're wrong, basically. Because your "explanation" presupposes God. I'm asking what if this is all just a big waste of time.
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-02-24 03:33:26
Is this just for the main forum page? (the one with the shoutbox)
Terms of use updated again - Posted by admin 2015-02-24 03:32:27
Or... you know... you could ask me to ban you or something.
Terms of use updated again - Posted by admin 2015-02-24 02:02:25
Just FYI: - Ownership of site contents has been clarified to indicate that elements of the site may not be exclusively my property. Notably "you provide" has been changed to "content...
Least Favorite Debate Category - Posted by admin 2015-02-23 23:57:07
My least favorite is people. I don't care much for celebs and things.
Profile Presets - Posted by admin 2015-02-23 08:53:16
Hey y'all, Some folks, notably @Stag! , wanted to be able to select a profile theme from a list of presets. Well, now you can! Check out the settings page, under the display tab, click on a preset ...
Stag was too lazy to put this here - Posted by admin 2015-02-23 03:15:53
That civil forfeiture is important in stopping crime It would be a much more interesting topic if we debated whether civil forfeiture is right to begin with in the first place. It would change the ...
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. - Posted by admin 2015-02-23 00:22:00
I don't think that's the only answer that makes sense. Also, I don't think who created the universe an important question. I would answer "nobody". But what's interesting is definitely th...
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. - Posted by admin 2015-02-22 23:06:28
Interesting how both you and @nzlockie came to the same conclusion on qn1 - God exists because the world exists (more or less).
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. - Posted by admin 2015-02-22 23:05:09
Yeah, but that's not answering the question. "I am right" isn't really an answer to "I am wrong".
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. - Posted by admin 2015-02-22 09:24:22
What if you're wrong?
300 members! - Posted by admin 2015-02-19 22:39:42
Leonidas would be proud. Say hi to our 300th member, http://www.edeb8.com/profile/Arjun+Mahar
Alternate Economic System Concept - Posted by admin 2015-02-19 01:49:58
I think whatever efficiency gain you would see from the system working would be entirely offset by the costs of maintaining the system. Seems like the perfect environment for diseconomies of scale.
Alternate Economic System Concept - Posted by admin 2015-02-19 01:05:20
My thoughts can be summed up in one word. Why?
Happy Birthday Thread - Posted by admin 2015-02-18 21:09:35
1. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. 2. Does my second post not make it entirely apparent that I know?
299 users... *gasp* - Posted by admin 2015-02-18 17:09:07
We're pretty close!
Clarifying burden of proof - Posted by admin 2015-02-18 03:23:23
Often yes. Again, I can think of exceptions to that strategy, such as a straight neg, but even there I suppose you're "convincing" indirectly.
Happy Birthday Thread - Posted by admin 2015-02-17 23:58:56
*wonders how many people will think that means partying on my birthday lol... I should do this on invitations one year* *regardless, you shouldn't actually go revile anything. But revelry is encour...
Happy Birthday Thread - Posted by admin 2015-02-17 23:56:45
How did this thread die? Nooo! Everyone go revile in my birthday today. Here's a virtual cake for y'all: http://images.sharedkarna.com/wp-content/uploads/chocolate-birthday-cake-recipes-2014110623...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 16:38:33
You must decide between the liberty to kill and the liberty to live. Why is it something I should decide? Because again, this is the absolute moral relativist position - just decide morality as you g...
Clarifying burden of proof - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 16:24:01
In answer to the question - to a significant extent, yes. The only other part of debating not covered by that which I can think of is structure - that is, keeping to the rules of the debate and giving...
"Judgement" vs "Judgment" - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 12:11:37
I noticed I use both spellings variously on the site. Is this a mistake on my part? If I standardize it to only using one, which one should I use?
Awesome music thread 2 - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 04:18:23
The thread lives on... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiHDmyhE1A
Clarifying burden of proof - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 04:17:26
Burden of rejoinder is more recognized in some parts of the world than others. When done correctly, I think BOP-based judging can still be good judging. In your example, it would come down to the idea...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 04:13:04
1) apostrophes. It's "Lars'" not "Lar's" 2) because the "right" to be left alone does not maximize freedoms, but rather is a restriction upon others. I try to limit rest...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 04:10:44
Yes. I just don't believe Lars crossed the line in depicting somebody as a dog. My Little Pony anthropomorphises ponies but I don't see a problem with that either.
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 04:09:22
"one side can still be in the wrong. Just not in scenarios regarding liberty." Let me clarify this. Suppose I believe in the liberty to live, and you believe in the liberty to kill. How are...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 03:56:26
No, I'm giving everybody both the freedom to scrutinize and also freedom from unjust invasions into personal privacy. Scrutiny is a broad word. Should the US president have "freedom from scrutiny...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 03:53:34
That's just classical moral relativism though. I'm sure Rousseau would have a thing or two to say about that. The way I see it, the basis of rights is the majority held belief in freedoms. Everyone...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 03:36:35
Nope. To me anyway, there's a big difference between maximizing freedom (say, the right to speak) and extending that freedom to depriving the freedom and/or equality of others (such as the right to...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 03:30:01
No, because it attempts to sway people to your point of view. Just because some mocks are more effective than others does not delegitimize the right to mock.
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 03:19:40
Yes, no and no. It's about what they believe is correct. Much like democrats believe republicans are wrong, and thus they mock them. Likewise republicans believe democrats are wrong. The prophet Mu...
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 01:54:56
As I said, it's nothing but provocative propaganda. I think they intend to demonstrate to people just how bad Islam is.
Freedom to mock the Islamic Prophet - Posted by admin 2015-02-15 00:23:22
After a certain Lars almost was shot over this recently, my mother and I engaged in an epic debate on this subject. Her position was that the Muslims were being bullied by Lars, and that there comes a...
Terrorism reporting bias - Posted by admin 2015-02-14 12:05:06
I for one would pay premiums for genuine attempts at being less biased.
Terrorism reporting bias - Posted by admin 2015-02-14 09:55:11
What word do they use instead?
Terrorism reporting bias - Posted by admin 2015-02-14 06:38:56
So there's this controversy going around after Chapel Hill, where many believe the media has been unfair in not questioning whether an attack on 3 Muslims was a terrorist attack, although a Muslim att...
Forfeits - Posted by admin 2015-02-13 09:38:15
Both debaters would need to agree to any potential "pause" I take it? If this is the case, one viable community level alternative might be to just agree to restart the debate at a later t...
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-02-10 03:20:38
Thanks :D
New Years Tournament Final - Posted by admin 2015-02-09 21:24:07
*shrug* it's an average topic, nothing special. It's fine though.
Forfeits - Posted by admin 2015-02-08 10:30:46
So some people are upset that they feel the rate of forfeits is on the rise. What does the community at large feel about this? Is there anything we can do on a site community level to reduce the numbe...
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-02-08 03:36:41
"A debate where con posts in a round where pro doesn't, or vice versa, will never happen again." Yes it can. Simply by having autoforfeit unchecked your format would be exactly the same as ...
New Years Tournament Final - Posted by admin 2015-02-08 03:27:42
@NZlockie didn't want to do the first round, of course, for much the same reason. I messaged him too and he's not terribly keen.
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-02-08 03:26:24
Sounds exactly like a round forfeited notification to me. Or if I use nothing at all, sounds like I'm going to spend at least a week of my life in future explaining to people why: 1) their opponents ...
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-02-08 03:24:08
Way to dodge the important question I asked. I know nobody expects to forfeit, but if people get second chances then that's the amount of time they'll expect to be able to use. I can guarantee you ...
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-02-08 03:13:12
Yes, two consecutive time outs = double the length of a round. Ending the debate at that time = autoforfeit. All already available. But what placeholder is shown when that happens?
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-02-08 03:10:22
Yeah but if you can forfeit indefinitely, what is the time limit there for? If you can't forfeit indefinitely, then eventually you'll need a placeholder to let people know what's happened.
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-02-08 03:06:46
1. What kind of placeholder should there be instead? 2. So long as there are time limits, there will be forfeits. I just don't see any third option.
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-02-08 02:54:23
That's precisely the same as if you just double the length of time of a round, except that it wouldn't have the text "round forfeited" (which makes no sense because people will wonder why th...
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-02-08 02:37:36
Well it's just that it's not a very specific feature. More like just a goal. I do a few things to discourage forfeits (like the introduction of autoforfeiting) but ultimately if somebody runs out of t...
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-02-08 02:34:43
Can you elaborate on what this would actually entail? Like, no time limits on a debate?
New Years Tournament Final - Posted by admin 2015-02-07 14:07:14
Message from JMK today My schedule's been really tight, so I'm really not sure when I would have enough time for this--but I'll try to get back to you as soon as possible.
OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-02-07 10:41:57
That would make it too easy to get around. They would just tag the person who blocked them instead of doing a proper reply.
Profile Inspiration - Posted by admin 2015-02-07 09:52:49
Can you give me some links to some pics you'd like to see on that list?
Profile Inspiration - Posted by admin 2015-02-07 02:44:13
I made something cool for anyone who'd like to try a new look for edeb8. Go to your settings page, and under display, click on the new "Random Background/Colors" option. The site will the...
New Years Tournament Final - Posted by admin 2015-02-06 23:55:33
Nope, been lazy. Will do though.
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-02-05 12:26:28
Did you just call this a battle? I heard you're talking trash My speed of posting's undeniable - I'm faster than the Flash And I'm making a splash, as I throw back all-comers Hard as stone cold stu...
The Greatest Philosophical Problem of all time - Posted by admin 2015-02-05 11:48:54
Well I can say with full confidence there is no voice in my head independent of myself.
The Greatest Philosophical Problem of all time - Posted by admin 2015-02-05 01:37:26
But what does "who you are as a person" mean? Your personality, right?
The Greatest Philosophical Problem of all time - Posted by admin 2015-02-05 01:19:10
Well, Aristotle isn't God. He might be wrong. If you're taking this into the concept of self, that's personality. A persona is a mask - it's a face people put on in different contexts. As Shakespea...
The Greatest Philosophical Problem of all time - Posted by admin 2015-02-05 00:28:13
It's like speaking to myself aloud. There's only one voice and it's mine.
The Greatest Philosophical Problem of all time - Posted by admin 2015-02-04 10:32:27
Scientology calls that a "thetan". It's basically the core of their philosophy. Unfortunately for me, my brain is prodigiously empty. There are no "voices" there. I'm just me.
Hangman - Posted by admin 2015-02-04 10:27:02
... come on, Stag!
Checkmate, Adeists! - Posted by admin 2015-02-02 10:45:34
"That is simply not how statistics works. What are the odds of wining the lottery? 100%? Because someone did win it?" Exactly, and this is precisely how stats works. I get annoyed when peop...
Hangman - Posted by admin 2015-02-02 03:56:08
Oh well. I'll let somebody else have the last guess. :)
Hangman - Posted by admin 2015-02-02 03:51:52
Damn, I was so sure it would be snowing lol. R?
Hangman - Posted by admin 2015-02-02 03:43:13
S?
Checkmate, Adeists! - Posted by admin 2015-02-02 03:36:38
First of all, it's fine to disagree with a mod on this site :) I'm not perfect and I can make mistakes, so I encourage people to tell me if they have a problem with anything I say. Second, there's ...
Checkmate, Adeists! - Posted by admin 2015-02-02 03:30:44
"And the chances of reaching that stage even once, in the one instance we know about ... is statistically impossible." How do you know? I mean, it's happened one time, and based on our obse...
Checkmate, Adeists! - Posted by admin 2015-02-02 03:00:18
any further violations will be reported. Thank you. In this case I think Stag might have a point - while Stag is not the community enforcer, I think he is within his bounds to say that he feels a co...
Checkmate, Adeists! - Posted by admin 2015-02-02 02:47:01
1 - I don't really. How many universes have you ever walked up to? Until you've gone up to many universes you can't really talk about what is common or uncommon in that sense. I think the inductive ca...
Checkmate, Adeists! - Posted by admin 2015-02-02 01:47:26
Just wanted to share my views on this. I agree with the basic premise that science doesn't support atheism or theism any better. Science is not a method through which one can find faith, but that d...
Denying Oneself - by Robert E Lee - Posted by admin 2015-02-01 23:54:11
Gree, I'm just going to use this as a chance to give you a warning after re-reading through this thread. A number of times on this thread you've attacked the site member, as opposed to the argument...
Denying Oneself - by Robert E Lee - Posted by admin 2015-02-01 16:14:55
I strongly agree with this part of Stag's comments: Word of advice, if someone does something you do not like in a debate, it is best to simply say nothing at all. I feel like I should distance ...
Denying Oneself - by Robert E Lee - Posted by admin 2015-02-01 13:57:01
"Show me one country that is successful and just without a police force. Just one." Can't think of one, but I can think of PLENTY of countries that don't respond to every rape with a SAWT t...
Denying Oneself - by Robert E Lee - Posted by admin 2015-02-01 12:25:28
"Gun wielding cops have done a great job limiting the damage that street gangs, the mafia, drug gangs, racial hate groups, and others from wrecking havoc on our society and turning it into Somali...
Denying Oneself - by Robert E Lee - Posted by admin 2015-02-01 10:10:58
"Yes, it is. What exactly do you think the difference is between a SWAT team and a Ranger Battalion capturing a terrorist outside the country? Right the borders they operate on." No, law en...
Hangman - Posted by admin 2015-01-31 22:33:28
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OFFICIAL FEATURE REQUEST THREAD - Posted by admin 2015-01-31 21:32:02
Cool idea indeed. Will look into that.
Sovereignty Support - Posted by admin 2015-01-31 21:29:44
I much prefer the New Zealand approach. Maori being disadvantaged? They form their own political party who's been allied with the government for about a decade now (longer than every other party), inf...
Sovereignty Support - Posted by admin 2015-01-31 21:08:05
I guess I'm confused as to where you and @Gendo_Ikari draw the line. On the one hand, when two cultures coexist you want to draw borders between them. On the other hand, if there's a melting pot state...
Hangman - Posted by admin 2015-01-31 19:47:06
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