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Updates in progress - Posted by admin 2018-02-28 02:13:53
Awesome, thanks :)
Updates in progress - Posted by admin 2018-02-27 09:11:40
Tell me if it's better now when you get a chance? Pretty please? I'm also tracking a bug with group forums ... once that's done I consider this particular update to be finished.
Updates in progress - Posted by admin 2018-02-27 09:02:23
Oh, shoot. Sorry about that. Will check that asap.
Updates in progress - Posted by admin 2018-02-25 12:41:19
Ok people of Edeb8 ... tell me if your headers are all messed up now.
Updates in progress - Posted by admin 2018-02-23 22:50:47
New updates are here: > Made various edits to the site theme > Fixed a bug with some links on debates > Decommissioned the old tournaments page > Improved character counting when p...
What was your first debate like? - Posted by admin 2018-02-15 10:34:52
My first online debate, if I recall correctly, was about whether we should abolish nuclear weapons, and was held on another site. I already had some formal real-life experience at that point so I foll...
***NOTICE*** - Posted by admin 2018-02-14 04:29:56
Truly a great milestone.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2018-02-14 03:40:38
Brains take a lot of shortcuts in terms of day-to-day decision making. That's why really dumb marketing is often really effective. But truth isn't really about the decisions we make, but rather what i...
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2018-02-13 09:46:52
So like, yes, there is an objective world out there and it's testable to a degree. But scientific theories are only as good as what we think we've understood about the world so far. Anyone who cl...
Terrible Haircut Stories. - Posted by admin 2018-02-13 04:23:00
On an aside, also pictured in this photo is a younger Max Harris, who recently wrote a book called The New Zealand Project which caused a minor stir.
Terrible Haircut Stories. - Posted by admin 2018-02-13 03:28:13
I didn't know hair grew in sizes that small
Anyone here played D&D before? - Posted by admin 2018-02-13 03:17:54
The new 5e kind? I'm so behind the times with my old-fashioned pathfinder-type games.
Cubing - Posted by admin 2018-02-13 03:15:17
Nice
Terrible Haircut Stories. - Posted by admin 2018-02-13 03:14:45
How much shorter than a buzzcut can you get before it's just "bald" ?
Size - Posted by admin 2018-02-01 08:21:24
You mean Edeb8 is comparable to the fan club of one of the most powerful gods who also happens to look a lot like Gandalf? That's fine too.
Size - Posted by admin 2018-02-01 07:16:18
I consider that a good thing. Quality of users > quantity of users.
Gay marriage: mating and mating less - Posted by admin 2018-02-01 07:13:32
The traditional institution of marriage acknowledges that a man and a woman have mated with each other, regardless of accuracy of any particular marriage. What about childless male-female couples?
Civid - Posted by admin 2018-02-01 07:12:02
As per usual, my policy is to leave things up unless there's a good reason to take them down. Also, people can ask me directly if they want me to do something :) Interesting that he considers ede...
How to request a feature or send a bug report - Posted by admin 2018-01-19 21:24:42
I don't really have an exact timeframe for anything. Basically I grant a request if I start coding for it. That depends a lot on my coding availability. Since it's just me, some things could take a lo...
Interesting article about racism and debate - Posted by admin 2018-01-09 04:32:00
Thought people here would be interested in this also :) https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-informed-civility-is-the-latest-target-in-the-campus-wars-1514938758
Intel security issue - Posted by admin 2018-01-08 10:24:45
Yip, it killed the database server. Thankfully everything should be back to normal now.
Intel security issue - Posted by admin 2018-01-07 03:59:41
The CPU issue also affects our server. Update should be installed shortly. Please note any bugs to me that crop up from the server restart.
2018 - Posted by admin 2018-01-07 03:58:44
I didn't make a happy new year thread. Here's one posted about a week afterwards. :D
Spam factoid - Posted by admin 2018-01-03 03:42:52
This has nothing to do with anything, but I thought it was interesting that the most common places IP addresses originate from which have spammed our "Contact Us" form are, in order: Bu...
Happy New Year! - Posted by admin 2017-12-31 22:11:39
Hope everyone has an awesome 2018 :)
1000 completed debates - Posted by admin 2017-12-24 02:30:14
Yay for another milestone for the site! I'm hoping to finish a site update within a couple of days.
A fetus is a human - Posted by admin 2017-12-24 02:28:00
Great. I'll send you a challenge after Christmas! :)
A fetus is a human - Posted by admin 2017-12-23 22:41:53
Would you like to debate me on abortion sometime?
Merry Christmas! - Posted by admin 2017-12-23 22:40:26
What are you doing to celebrate? I'm just chilling low-key at home with my mum and my brother.
Reminder about Christmas - Posted by admin 2017-12-19 22:52:46
You can get a free badge just by logging in on Christmas! I think I may be the only one with this badge currently, so it would be nice to celebrate with you guys this year! :)
Swearing - Posted by admin 2017-12-19 22:51:45
Warning: profanity is banned in the terms of service. Doing that again could put your account in jeopardy.
Spot the lie - Posted by admin 2017-12-15 22:09:29
I'd say it's 1.
Spot the lie - Posted by admin 2017-12-14 21:55:11
Number 2 if you must know. I have, in fact, ridden on a horse. Echo Four wins! Any one else want to offer 3 statements? :)
The First Game Mafia (Sign-ups) - Posted by admin 2017-12-14 21:36:29
Well, I mean, I could try but you'll be sure to be disappointed. I'm not exactly known for always being on time with things.
The First Game Mafia (Sign-ups) - Posted by admin 2017-12-07 22:15:48
I support this game, although I probably won't be able to play
About how many active members are there? - Posted by admin 2017-12-07 21:21:56
It varies, of course.
I made some things - Posted by admin 2017-12-07 21:21:10
I actually thought this was too hard too. I don't like this genre as I usually play strategy games. But my team really wanted to do something more arcade like. Thanks for your comments :)
Tournaments - Posted by admin 2017-12-06 02:17:35
@Mharman said to me in chat he'd prefer option 2.
I made some things - Posted by admin 2017-12-06 02:17:05
Ludum Dare game I mostly made, play it if you want your fingers to get sore: http://www.edeb8.com/LD40/submission.php
Tournaments - Posted by admin 2017-12-06 02:14:52
There's been quite a few bugs with tournaments recently. Therefore I've decided to rewrite the tournament code. This may affect existing tournaments so I'm wondering whether people would prefer: ...
Short Jokes - Posted by admin 2017-12-06 02:11:25
I made some holy water today. It's easy - I just had to boil the hell out of it.
The UK hates young white men - Posted by admin 2017-11-23 02:04:15
This poll sounds remarkably racially charged. Like it's designed to make some groups look bad.
Color of the year - Posted by admin 2017-11-17 00:14:56
Why?
Color of the year - Posted by admin 2017-11-16 03:29:08
What color would you most want to see added?
Some updates - Posted by admin 2017-11-14 21:04:56
People should have spoken up when I made the necroposting thread XD To win that thread they now also need to convince me to change my mind on this issue ;)
Special thanks - Posted by admin 2017-11-12 23:28:06
To @Mharman for keeping the shoutbox alive :D
Some updates - Posted by admin 2017-11-12 23:27:06
> PDF renderer updated. Now handles unicode much better, uses a more modern generation engine based on wkhtmltopdf, and is now consistent with the latest debate features like Lincoln-Douglas, Publi...
Catalonia Did It. - Posted by admin 2017-10-28 21:20:13
Hey, anyone remember what happened last time Spain had a civil war?
Founding document - Posted by admin 2017-10-23 15:09:41
I'd install myself as god-king, and everyone else beneath that known as "slaves." Joking aside, I like democracy. I'd have a democratically elected senate, passing laws, with binding re...
We had an election in NZ... - Posted by admin 2017-10-23 15:05:43
A party that got barely over 5% of the vote, managed to get enough influence to have its leader installed as deputy prime minister. How could we better ensure representation without excluding min...
Necroposting - Posted by admin 2017-10-23 15:04:19
Should it be allowed?
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2017-10-23 15:03:51
I like how this is one of the oldest threads and still going.
Color of the year - Posted by admin 2017-10-23 15:02:26
Name a color and I'll turn it into a new official edeb8 color scheme, complete with background presets! :)
Big change - Posted by admin 2017-10-23 15:00:38
Behold the power of fixing issues with crontab on newer servers. We're on a cool VPS now so that means I've actually had to fix up a ton of my messy code. During a time when I was super busy with...
Update - Posted by admin 2017-10-09 21:00:32
Fixed critical bugs with emails not sending and a variety of other issues. Sorry for the delay pushing this out - I was SOOOO busy with my course.
The name Mohammad is given to sons to show respect - Posted by admin 2017-07-26 12:13:08
The Greek equivalent of Jesus is Joshua, and English-speaking countries just so happened to have adopted more of those conventions.
The name Mohammad is given to sons to show respect - Posted by admin 2017-07-26 12:11:45
I disagree a bit. If you go to very Christian places like Mexico, the name Jesus is not uncommon.
Big change - Posted by admin 2017-07-26 12:11:00
I believe, after extensive testing, all issues related to the move have been resolved.
Big change - Posted by admin 2017-07-24 20:16:15
Seems to be issues with sending emails. Am working on this.
Big change - Posted by admin 2017-07-24 12:30:55
Test
Big change - Posted by admin 2017-07-24 12:26:39
Edeb8 is now coming to you live from a VPS. This is the second major server change in our history and our first substantial upgrade! :) Kinda sucks this had to happen now of all times, but h...
Possible downtime today... - Posted by admin 2017-07-22 15:20:13
I might move bits of the site today to help fix some of the other broken things. Sorry guys.
About the downtime today... - Posted by admin 2017-07-14 14:02:45
Still fixing everyone's profiles. :)
How slow is Edeb8 for you? - Posted by admin 2017-07-14 05:13:13
Cool :D Yeah one bug down, two new ones come up.
About the downtime today... - Posted by admin 2017-07-10 13:03:38
Done. Am working on fixing debate format bugs this stupid and un-needed change introduced especially as pertains to how speech marks are displayed. Again sorry. Wish I could do more to fix it.
About the downtime today... - Posted by admin 2017-07-09 18:51:25
Yes - will get on to that after school today.
About the downtime today... - Posted by admin 2017-07-09 11:06:45
Also, sorted out a timezone issue with the server move
About the downtime today... - Posted by admin 2017-07-09 11:02:52
test
About the downtime today... - Posted by admin 2017-07-09 10:54:42
What happened? The web host decided to "upgrade" my server to another machine. In the process this broke a lot of stuff. He was also using an older database backup. Apparently the server i...
Is Christianity good for society? - Posted by admin 2017-07-08 13:15:23
Christians are conditioned to believe lies and think the rest of us suffer from the same mental defect. That in and of itself is a mindset, and a very dangerous one in my opinion, because it general...
Is Christianity good for society? - Posted by admin 2017-07-08 12:48:40
Well that fundamentalist churches are increasing in popularity is obvious, but I think you're missing my point, which is that the only way to fight fundamentalism is with moderation. If moderate churc...
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-07-08 02:33:28
Both of you, but especially Greatest I am - watch out for personal attacks. Keep it civil. If you want to go, just go. :)
Is Christianity good for society? - Posted by admin 2017-07-08 02:30:58
No I think Christianity is changing their marketing. If we're talking about Christianity as it largely exists today, that's going away. But you have to think how that might be different in future. I t...
How slow is Edeb8 for you? - Posted by admin 2017-07-04 00:33:23
Aside from being personally not cool with it, I don't really think we get the traffic for it. This past week has been a good one for traffic, and we've had 525 unique users visit the site. Assuming a ...
How slow is Edeb8 for you? - Posted by admin 2017-07-02 21:55:18
Ideally, the delay would be similar to the delay you'd get if I were to call you on a cellphone. In practice, what we have is WAY less than a cellphone network lol.
How slow is Edeb8 for you? - Posted by admin 2017-07-02 15:08:37
One of the trade-offs of having a site with zero income / having no money myself / the site being rather complex and full of bells+whistles is unfortunately that sometimes some slowness is inevitable,...
How slow is Edeb8 for you? - Posted by admin 2017-07-02 10:49:13
And are there any pages that are particularly slow? Or is it everywhere?
DDO Transfer pt 2 - Posted by admin 2017-07-02 10:39:46
Bump
DDO Historic Debates Initiative - Posted by admin 2017-07-02 09:20:59
The tricky part is that Google might still penalize us for having duplicate content.
DDO Transfer pt 2 - Posted by admin 2017-07-02 05:39:29
Available for a limited time 1. Go to your settings 2. Click the new DDO tab 3. Write out your DDO stats 4. Hit save changes To see how this currently looks, take a look at my profile ...
DDO Transfer - Posted by admin 2017-06-30 15:53:47
Wouldn't work because you'd have to have the historical Elo scores of every single person who anyone doing the transfer has ever debated with, in order to calculate Elo by edeb8's formula. I mean you ...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 14:41:08
FYI, if you do it as a reply to my post as opposed to a reply to the thread I get a notification :) I'm sorry if you feel like I was trying to alienate or dominate you. It's a fine line because o...
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 11:40:12
Also I just discovered this the other day. Thought I'd share: http://www.bricktestament.com/home.html Next time I do a religion debate I'll consider using this instead of my usual LOLcat Bible.
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 11:16:30
My presumption here is that the other Mary referred to here (Mary mother of James) is the same Mary who is also mother of Jesus. But I suppose it's an interesting reading that maybe Mary had a sister ...
DDO Transfer - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 08:30:19
Probably, somehow. Personally I wish I could preserve a few too.
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 08:26:05
Well that assumes there's a problem. You're certainly making it out as if there's one. The only worrying thing going on here is that you're not trying to make sense of what I'm saying and are leaving ...
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 03:13:52
My Bible's rendition of Matt. 27:61 doesn't even mention James. Interesting. You know, the Orthodox church has a big emphasis on all their feast days and stuff. And I still hear them talk less ab...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 01:14:38
I like the presumption there is no flaw in your argument unless somebody points one out using terms you can understand. That's an interesting kind of critical thinking. Your response has been ent...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 00:31:14
I have addressed this objection ad nauseam. You certainly have addressed it but the reason people (ie all three of us, of different actual beliefs regarding God) keep bringing it up to you is becaus...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-29 00:27:26
In a logical argument, premises are not separate. They are linked by conclusions. Just because you didn't make a conclusion doesn't mean it doesn't follow from your argument. At this point I think per...
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 12:44:23
Huh, I didn't know that. So do you think James wasn't Jesus' real brother or something? Put it this way - I've seen at least three giant white statues of Mary, all of them outside Catholic church...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 11:51:18
I can answer the quote thing. By default, if you copy-paste stuff into a reply box on the forums, it will automatically insert quote tags around the box. You can turn this off with the "Enab...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 11:41:20
Therefore human beings are contingent on cells. At a certain point you've admitted to me everything is contingent on a non-entity that for some reason doesn't meet the logical standards of your cla...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 11:39:19
I still feel like you're missing my point. Here your reply is much the same line as you've said previously. Why? That is nowhere in my syllogisms. Distinct and independent = an entity. You've ...
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 11:11:19
Well it's possible but then you have to remember, shortly after Jesus was born, Joseph had a bunch of other babies with Mary that were unquestionably Joseph's (the only alternative here is that Mary c...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 07:01:14
Because otherwise you'd have a contingent entity forever into infinity (not even a circular contingency would satisfy the logical conditions of your argument). That's not possible because infinity is ...
DDO Transfer - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 06:49:34
Ha, the profile page code is anything but. It's a mess. Over half of it is code to display the status updates. I really need to clean it sometime. Miss the days when you couldn't get away with code li...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 05:40:48
I think you're playing semantics because you and I have a different definition of a thing. Let me rephrase a critical part of my last post to satisfy you. It doesn't even particularly matter what...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 03:39:09
More like an argument why one premise cannot be true. It doesn't even particularly matter what the uncontingent thing is - the point is that there must be something that is uncontingent. For instance ...
DDO Transfer - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 03:31:00
I'm not a DDO official, so IDK.
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-28 03:30:04
Doesn't that seem a bit lopsided to you? Why do you think God allowed Mary to become betrothed to Joseph in the first place? I have a personal theory that Joseph may have died during Jesus' child...
DDO Transfer - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 21:52:16
So as you know I'm going to be transferring stuff from DDO. Ideally I'd want to do that today. I might possibly wait until after DDO's errors break down to see if anyone sent a last-minute submission ...
Neurological Forensics - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 21:49:59
I suspect strongly they'd decay rather quickly. In theory it might be somewhat possible in the distant future.
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 21:48:40
Is it because of the whole "not his real dad" thing, and if so, what is the church's position on the adoptive parents of orphans in relation to showing honor per the 5th commandment?
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 21:47:43
I have a question. Why does the Catholic Church venerate Mary the mother of Jesus more than Joseph the father of Jesus?
Ask a Catholic - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 21:46:15
Just well-educated opinion.
New Tournament - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 21:45:49
You might want to post this in community too. And put in a link.
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 14:55:55
I guess I see If an entity is made of something then it is contingent on what it is made of. As being equivalent because: God, quarks and the universe are all entities Your claim is that each...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 14:37:38
Well I'm not addressing it because I'm not a theist, so I think it's best left to interpretation. I'm more interested in the logic and morals of metaphysics.
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 14:36:26
Well so far I've attacked only the very first premise, that something that exists must be contingent. That's your first premise. So if something exists that doesn't depend on something else - the univ...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 14:22:16
I don't think there's any need for "God" but that doesn't inherently disprove God. I'd put the same case back to you: if we don't know how God is made does that mean God cannot exist? Ultima...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 13:43:27
Everything is contingent on energy. What is energy contingent on? See the problem? Basically the argument is equivalent to the classic prime mover case but it's especially weak because it applies...
Compelling Argument Against God - Posted by admin 2017-06-27 12:05:09
What are quarks made of? Are you saying quarks do not exist?
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-23 22:38:50
Howdy!
Updates on fixes (22/6/2016) - Posted by admin 2017-06-23 02:58:05
Did you deactivate your old account? :P
Updates on fixes (22/6/2016) - Posted by admin 2017-06-22 01:11:49
Social login: Facebook login is working again. Google is taking its time updating their redirect urls internally. Twitter seems to be working too. More to come today...
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-22 00:17:52
Accidental double post?
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 19:03:49
Society's restrictions don't necessarily amount to slavery, but the specific argument you're making can be used to support slavery ie I support slavery because slaves are inferior. That you're not usi...
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 18:39:52
That doesn't explain why we should take care of people with little income, or why we restrict who can earn what in the first place. These are socially defined discourses framed by adversarial power st...
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 18:21:14
Safety nets aim to produce some level of equality. By arguing against all inequality you're effectively arguing against all safety nets. The question isn't whether equality is acceptable in principle,...
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 18:07:15
You realize that's an argument for slavery right?
Paul's strange conversion and illogical actions - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 17:50:09
Does anyone seriously think Paul was eager to go around preaching Jesus to the Romans unless he had actually been commissioned by Jesus? Recall that Paul was not a Roman. He was a Freeman living...
Respect For Religion - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 12:32:42
So here's a question. Why should we ban children from watching porn?
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 12:28:24
I agree, the bar on my thermometer literally can't get any lower.
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-21 12:25:55
Maybe if we consider the world today I can see that wealth inequality is less of a concern than it will be in the future. It is still harmful in that it destroys societies, creates conflict and provid...
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 23:12:38
*checks temperature* Pretty sure I am at the moment, actually.
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 23:07:23
Dude you can't copyright a feature. You can try to patent it, if it's an especially novel process, but you can't copyright it.
"Last Post" Feature - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 23:05:43
I have a site update scheduled for tomorrow, as it happens. So discuss this fast, members!
DDO Emergency Alert - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 13:41:11
To be fair, if you had been a DDO president, what would you have done? The DDO community is pretty inherently fragmented.
Paul's strange conversion and illogical actions - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 06:09:43
Funnily enough I'm doing a debate right now where I talk about some of this.
DDO Emergency Alert - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 04:03:38
Well that first part is a little off. Juggle acquired DDO as an investment. They were never very interested. People complained on DDO from the very start. Aside from, funnily enough, a short period af...
DDO Emergency Alert - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 01:44:03
No architecture is designed to last forever. How long DDO lasts is a function of Juggle's willingness to maintain it.
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 01:42:47
The basic minimum income I am thinking of would be given to every single citizen of a country This is the part I take issue with, regardless. It doesn't help the poor and it exacerbates wealth inequ...
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-20 01:37:52
political orientation should come as a logical thing from studying philosophy I don't think there's a lot of evidence to support that this actually happens.
The unnecessary complexity of the bible - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 22:16:31
In fairness, to some people they think the Bible's message is very clear. They just happen to disagree with everyone else on what exactly that message is.
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 22:13:38
"I'm straight for the time being" "What do you mean?" "Well one day I might run into a really hot person of the same gender which could convince me otherwise" "...
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 22:08:50
So that raises the question of why a minimum income is better than social programs. The difference is that minimum incomes don't give to the poor, they give to the unemployed. Many unemployed don't ne...
Is Christianity good for society? - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 08:59:24
As I said in my first post but feel moved to re-emphasize: we have common ground on religion being a possible force of goodwill. I just don't believe that, if religion were around, people would have t...
The Future of Europe - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 03:29:41
I'm writing an essay on it right now. It's a sociological construct where mutually satisfying, equitable relationships are an integral part of an inclusive power structure. Interesting stuff. I i...
The Future of Europe - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 03:18:39
Depends on how you measure wealth. England changed it's culture with industrialization - that's why it's called a revolution. Personally I think our society today is VERY cultured, perhaps more s...
The Future of Europe - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 02:58:32
EU is fundamentally a trade and free association pact, based on the model of the old EEC. Sorta like the TPP was intended to grow the economies of each individual state, so the EU was formed to grow e...
The Future of Europe - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 02:43:21
That's quite different from individual statehood. In reality the reasons for EU integration were not to surrender sovereignty but to increase it. That's why Europe has so much anti-EU sentiment right ...
The Future of Europe - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 02:33:09
I think it's more likely that humans will colonize Mars by 2040, than it is for Europe to be a singular country anytime in the next 200 years.
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 01:50:56
Wololo
Since we have a few new users recently... - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 01:50:21
Note to users: you can thumbs-up David's post here if you agree :)
Since we have a few new users recently... - Posted by admin 2017-06-19 01:39:44
How do people feel about those? I've never been too sure about the computer generated debates personally. Speaking of which, I haven't updated the random topic list in a while lol. Need to do that. ...
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-18 20:33:38
Even if we take the most utopian concept here, where there's a completely fair and completely effective democratically-controlled system of government to enforce laws like "no slavery", you ...
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-18 20:13:43
Bear in mind, the site was profitable prior to the introduction of polls and opinions.
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-18 20:12:18
Not necessarily. The problem is maintaining a site with high traffic and TONS of growing data indefinitely. It's so easy for that architecture to break down. I'm not even sure that Juggle ever got aro...
Since we have a few new users recently... - Posted by admin 2017-06-17 08:36:49
What's one thing about edeb8 you wish people used more?
Is Christianity good for society? - Posted by admin 2017-06-15 00:48:05
You know, I've changed my view on that recently. I used to agree they'd happen under another excuse. But I think now the fact religion is so often the scapegoat points to it being a particularly dange...
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-13 02:11:57
It's pretty similar. Did you get my message when you joined the site? You can check your inbox here: http://www.edeb8.com/message/inbox
Is Christianity good for society? - Posted by admin 2017-06-13 02:08:56
I guess my personal view is that churches are neutral sources of "valuable" power (in the sense that knowledge is power). I have seen these power relations tear communities apart and bring t...
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-13 02:00:02
Yeah, the speed is much worse when there's a lot of people on lol. This is another thing I've been trying to look at improving. Eventually when I finish my masters, I'm moving to a VPS. Should speed t...
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-12 03:09:39
I came up with a system to fix that one time, but it would have required the approval of the DDO mods which I never got. The feature to import DDO progress was controversial anyway.
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-12 03:08:42
The server this is hosted on isn't fantastic but it works - any errors will be temporary "can you just give me a second" messages from the server, especially during "peak" times :)...
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-12 03:04:31
Doesn't seem like a domain issue. My guess is that their server has become overloaded and they haven't fixed it.
centralized market control vs free markets - Posted by admin 2017-06-11 05:28:09
See I'm not sure you can prevent companies from basically having slave labor in a libertarian system
DDO is broken - Posted by admin 2017-06-11 05:26:51
Still not loading. 503 errors are pretty serious.
Flat-Earth Model - Posted by admin 2017-06-02 21:26:24
That solstice thing only works for one hemisphere. As somebody on the other side of the planet I can confirm this is not true.
Anthropocentric Climate Change? - Posted by admin 2017-06-02 04:52:54
There's a big difference between saying humans have zero effect on climate, and saying humans are making the climate warmer. Everyone agrees humans can affect climate. Is this significant enough to wa...
I'm coming here - Posted by admin 2017-06-01 08:34:15
Except edeb8 will live forever of course :P
Anthropocentric Climate Change? - Posted by admin 2017-06-01 08:33:23
The argument I've seen is always that any changes to the climate humans make are negligible. I don't think anyone would deny, for example, that building a greenhouse creates a microclimate. People can...
Crossbow Quick Loading Mechanism - Posted by admin 2017-05-29 04:05:28
Well, to be fair, no, not typically. My understanding is they used a winch.
Crossbow Quick Loading Mechanism - Posted by admin 2017-05-27 02:12:01
That's called a scorpion and it existed too.
EDEB8 Transformation - Posted by admin 2017-05-27 02:11:38
Also because of the locking thing. Early on, preventing necroposts was seen as a major site feature for some reason.
I'm coming here - Posted by admin 2017-05-23 15:18:28
Who cares? People have choices and it's awesome.
Turtle Breaker Tactics - Posted by admin 2017-05-21 04:03:49
Kinda assumes the roman legions would break ranks, but you're basically describing Surena's strategy at Carrhae.
Turtle Breaker Tactics - Posted by admin 2017-05-21 03:01:18
The Romans faced armies who tried exactly that tactic numerous times. Such armies generally forgot that pilums are especially deadly against cavalry, either as spears or javelins. Of course some ...
Anthropocentric Climate Change? - Posted by admin 2017-05-20 01:57:54
Facts everyone agrees on are that climate is changing and people are helping change it. Question is how much people are helping, whether it's an insignificant amount or whether it's the primary cause.
Question about speed - Posted by admin 2017-05-19 21:17:42
Cool. :)
I'm coming here - Posted by admin 2017-05-18 10:05:33
Welcome :D I just repaired my laptop. Nice to see fresh faces.
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-10 19:22:28
But there are arm bones. Also, there are arm bones on similar predators that evolved independently. Also, t-rexes needed them to mate. Also, their posture would otherwise not have worke...
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-10 19:16:28
How would you stop him? Any nonviolent answer works. I'm literally only excluding one option here. If that or doing nothing are my only options for some convoluted contrived reason, then morally I c...
Question about speed - Posted by admin 2017-05-08 04:28:42
Is anyone finding edeb8 particularly slow recently? I've recently implemented a system to help filter out more spammers, just want to check that it's not slowing us down too much.
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-07 04:28:15
I don't believe it because Jesus said it. I believe it because it's morally justified. Just because somebody else does something immoral, doesn't logically mean you can do something immoral to stop th...
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-07 04:24:48
Now, if you said that you saw a T-Rex today, I would believe you. What if I said I see Jesus Christ standing right next to me endorsing everything I'm saying in this thread? ;) Well...and anima...
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-05 08:28:20
So if I said I travelled back in time and saw a t-rex, would you believe me? People have only one thing to defend themselves against and that's people. For so long as militaries exist, people hav...
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-05 05:04:56
So basically you don't believe any other possible evidence except for a full skeleton? There'd be no point in killing my people. I imagine they'd be turned into slaves mostly. At Parihaka, the lo...
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-05 01:33:01
Bear in mind several countries have no armies right now and aren't being attacked with 10,000 soldiers. The whole reason 10,000 soldiers could theoretically invade is because armies exist.
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-05 01:31:21
You don't know any "normal" animals with big back legs and smaller front arms? I can think of at least 5 living ones.
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-04 05:10:43
There are certain creatures with ancestors who existed during the time of the dinosaurs, but such creatures have evolved over time. Crocodiles were not the same species as those that existed during th...
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-04 05:04:50
Ideally, their constituents.
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-04 05:04:35
No, I don't. If hordes of invaders come, my personal belief is in turning the other cheek, but even if not, the police is much better suited to these matters than the army. Put individuals responsible...
Unique beliefs debate - Posted by admin 2017-05-03 05:11:21
I believe the nations of the world should disband their militaries.
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-04-29 00:54:38
Should there be any government?
Paley's Watch - Posted by admin 2017-04-27 23:31:29
Ok but WHY do you believe that? I guess I see a distinction between saying a conclusion is absurd and saying an argument is logically fallible.
Paley's Watch - Posted by admin 2017-04-27 14:08:56
So why do you believe in intelligent design? I feel like your response sounds less of an argument against the watch, and more against the watchmaker. Maybe there is an infinite regression of watchmake...
Paley's Watch - Posted by admin 2017-04-27 02:19:25
What ARE your personal beliefs on the watch?
The future of the world with president Trump - Posted by admin 2017-04-14 00:21:26
I guess I'll bite at this poll with my predictable answer: no.
Thumbs up on shoutbox messages? - Posted by admin 2017-04-07 07:16:57
Yeah, I mean, you'd get a reaction for the next few days...
CNN (Cannibal News Network) - Posted by admin 2017-04-03 05:08:43
What is your criteria for what you call "science"?
The latest site update - Posted by admin 2017-04-02 13:37:15
Also, just now fixed an infinite loop issue this update caused.
Intelligent Design and Selfish Biocosm as a theory - Posted by admin 2017-04-02 06:25:48
No, I'm just saying the same principle can be applied in both cases. That doesn't mean they support each other. A naturalistic explanation could be the best explanation and still not meet your arbitra...
Intelligent Design and Selfish Biocosm as a theory - Posted by admin 2017-04-02 04:26:44
Depends what you call adequate. You could say that naturalistic models of weather are inadequate because weather forecasts are often wrong. It's still the most reliable way we have to know what the we...
CNN (Cannibal News Network) - Posted by admin 2017-04-01 10:38:34
I think one of the big differences between fairy tales and conventional facts is that you can verify whether facts are true. Harry Potter? Nobody can prove if he exists. Probably a fairy tale. Cindere...
The latest site update - Posted by admin 2017-04-01 10:21:55
Here are some changes! Mostly this is a bug fix update ... so thanks for pointing out all these bugs! > Possible fix for knockout tournaments with auto-setup debates. Previously these would cr...
A change in judging - Posted by admin 2017-03-21 06:10:49
Love the suggestioning BTW!
A change in judging - Posted by admin 2017-03-21 06:10:31
paid professional judges Money's the issue training clubs I like it. Maybe more like mentoring. Needs some incentive. restrictions on judging I don't mind it, but yeah, similar to deba...
Russophobia - Posted by admin 2017-03-21 05:59:00
Your OP clearly related to the negative impacts of sanctions and negative foreign sentiments though... surely this applies far outside of Russia. Iran, North Korea, China etc come to mind.
Russophobia - Posted by admin 2017-03-21 04:53:04
Well both have sanctions on them.
Where's the FAQ? - Posted by admin 2017-03-21 04:39:59
What would you put in it?
Russophobia - Posted by admin 2017-03-21 03:48:37
On this point, sanctions against North Korea have undoubtedly harmed North Korean people. Do you agree with them?
Where's the FAQ? - Posted by admin 2017-03-21 03:47:10
I meant to make an FAQ at one point but people keep disagreeing on what should be in it
I'm down - Posted by admin 2017-03-10 08:05:11
Hey! You should have received a message from me when you joined :) Anything in particular you enjoy discussing? Just start a debate, or join an existing one you're interested in (see the deb...
Intelligent Design and Selfish Biocosm as a theory - Posted by admin 2017-03-10 07:59:18
Duh. Heck, society yesterday shaped my views today because I saw an ad on TV. Design could be, but in my view, the naturalist perspective of evolution is more scientific in terms of providing a d...
Intelligent Design and Selfish Biocosm as a theory - Posted by admin 2017-03-09 08:47:25
I think there's an important issue underlying this post. Philosophically, science itself is open to scientific scrutiny. So your wonderings are merited.
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-09 03:04:57
Sure but I think it's largely been modernized. Things have changed.
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-09 02:59:07
Oh? I thought he went out of fashion about a century ago?
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-08 09:23:58
Consistent according to our subjective observations... that doesn't mean it's true. It just means our subjective perceptions have some regularity to them.
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-08 03:59:49
How do you know?
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-08 03:56:58
Eeek, a bug. Will have that fixed soon.
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-07 07:38:13
On a related note, are you able to thumbs-up / down ideas of other people? Just want to check something.
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-07 05:02:05
... and that can't be inherent? I disagree strongly either way. Everyone's reality is actual for them. It's profoundly limiting to suggest that any one "actual" reality should be greate...
Getting a competent debater for my first debate - Posted by admin 2017-03-07 04:23:50
That sure is a specialist topic.
EDEB8 Transformation - Posted by admin 2017-03-07 04:18:45
Great to see this kind of thing going on
Edeb8 Photo Album - Posted by admin 2017-03-06 12:00:00
Because I think it would be cool to have a thread where we can put faces to each others names. Unless you have it in your profile image of course ;)
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-06 04:57:42
Subjective is actual. It's just not always the same.
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-06 04:46:58
Maybe put it on the feature request tracker... see if there's popular support for it among site users. I'd be curious. For me I would avoid using such a feature but each to their own :)
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-06 04:35:23
So you think things need to be objective to be inherent? Why?
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-06 03:19:04
I guess I have a few issues maybe with the implementation, avoiding accusations of bias, etc. The tradition/courtesy I know of debating is that anything you say to a judge before or during the debate ...
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-05 07:23:54
Right, those are the premises on which I guide my beliefs on the kind of moral society we want to create. I don't agree that the worth need be objective but certainly that people exist, and that perso...
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-05 05:11:55
That's an ethical problem. You can't examine ethics using science if that's what you're implying - that would mean being able to correctly predict the future, which science can't.
The earth is at the center of the universe - Posted by admin 2017-03-05 04:13:13
By many, do you mean three people?
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-05 04:12:11
I think those features were coded after the choose-judges system. From memory the notification doesn't give away who requested you to judge the debate, so yes. Why would you want to message someb...
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 20:01:53
You can deny morality by denying the link or the rationale. Do you think anything at all is morally true? If so, why?
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 19:59:39
The flag she sets up mutates into my flag.
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 08:47:03
If you accept as a premise that people have value, then you value people. I say ought because I believe people have that value and am explaining my reasoning for that. The IS signifies the premise, OU...
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 08:30:19
Sure, that's the law of identity. Having the same value means your value should be the same. All people are people and therefore should be valued as people should be valued. There's only one litt...
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 08:18:25
Social and political equality is the expression of rights. If everyone has the same value (being a person) then it follows we afford them the same values (as personal natural rights).
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 08:12:53
Do you?
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 08:11:33
Cool :) I'll put it back up for a trial later this month when I'm less swamped with uni work.
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 08:09:57
The reason people are valuable is because they are people. All people are people. No person is more of a person than other people.
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 08:09:01
Oh no! Not the ontological argument!
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 03:29:30
What's interesting is that I actually implemented that feature a few hours before DDO did (DDO told people 24 hours before their feature went live, so I went ahead and coded it in like 3 hours lol). P...
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-04 03:24:39
The value here is people. People are important things. All people, not some people. Equality means not valuing some people above others. Freedom means having that respect for one another.
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-03 10:25:45
People exercise direct democracy in some ways. I support it only when it is practical to do so, however. The vast majority of people simply do not care about politics nor should they have to most of t...
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-03 10:21:29
Edeb8 by default uses a system where the number of points is related to the length of the judgment. With some characters of feedback it increases from 1 to 3 points - with more it goes from 3 to 4. ...
Your political philosophy and favorite philosopher - Posted by admin 2017-03-03 03:17:40
I like my own political philosophy. Seriously though, I'm a liberal, and have various policy beliefs that may or may not align with mainstream liberal positions. Among political philosophers I ad...
Fighting for what is "right" - Posted by admin 2017-03-02 07:30:45
What makes Rousseau so great?
The future of the world with president Trump - Posted by admin 2017-03-02 00:10:46
I think it's a combination of: 1. A long-term sociological trend towards inclusion - people want to connect with other cultures etc rather than shunning them as barbarians, increasingly. Same with f...
The future of the world with president Trump - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 04:34:08
Could you clarify that question a little?
The future of the world with president Trump - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 04:15:20
It's not. But that interconnection is still a cultural phenomenon.
Fighting for what is "right" - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:58:43
I think in general my problem is more with the process of appeal to authority. Locke is a standard but he has many critics, so it's useful to justify those beliefs. I think for example Marx was comple...
The future of the world with president Trump - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:54:39
My view on this is: yes, there are corrupt people who happen to wield power. Yes, many of them want more power. Some might even collude for more power. At the same time, yes, globalization is much, ...
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:50:57
I bribe a single cockroach with a carrot to swap the flag over to my flag.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:48:27
To me, yes. To you, that's your call.
The earth is at the center of the universe - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:47:40
The actual physics answer here is that the universe has no center. It has a size (which is unknown and, according to current theories about relativity, impossible to ever work out) but not necessarily...
The earth is at the center of the universe - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:45:22
In those times they got even more specific, because Jerusalem was at the center of the earth. Some even said Jesus was crucified in the middle of the universe. No reason why, God just liked the spot a...
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:42:52
I'd even not have a problem with directly copying the DDO standard if people really wanted to use it. I'm not sure if there's copyright concerns but heck, in terms of giving debaters more flexibility ...
DDO's Official Op-in Voting Standards - Posted by admin 2017-03-01 03:41:09
It's called the community standard because the community wrote it. If you or others want to draft another standard, and our main moderator can understand it, I'd have no trouble whatsoever adding it i...
The earth is at the center of the universe - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:59:32
Lol but seriously I'd probably say "That's cool. By the way did you know that in the future Bibles are available in almost every language and that people are allowed to question things?" Tha...
The earth is at the center of the universe - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:58:13
Art thou common serf? Thy intellect's a-trifling.
Fighting for what is "right" - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:53:45
How did he know?
What's your favorite color? - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:51:52
Harsh words!
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:47:52
On that note, it's worth reminding the planet that the whole Syrian civil war LITERALLY started because a young teenager graffitied anti-Assad slogans on a wall. The teenager was beaten by police, peo...
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:43:22
Syria's civil war isn't really about religion nor is Syria particularly uneducated. The only reason they're poor at the moment is because the place is in a civil war that is primarily political in nat...
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:39:14
To me it comes down to autonomy - whether you believe these people are naturally entitled to a good chance at life, given the inhospitable, inhumane and life-threatening conditions where they came fro...
Keynes was wrong - Posted by admin 2017-02-28 08:27:39
I know what you mean, my time availability is awful at the moment too :(
Keynes was wrong - Posted by admin 2017-02-27 19:16:47
I can.
Weekly Topic #1 - Posted by admin 2017-02-26 04:30:10
Interesting topic. If I had more time I'd attack it for sure. I'd be keen to judge it.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-26 04:29:01
Need a superpower be a terrorist state?
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 23:29:37
I unplug our VR headsets, and then plant my flag for the first time on the real hill.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 23:25:24
Right. So like on a debate about gay marriage I don't think one side is right or the other wrong. In a debate you have to consider both sides.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 10:09:54
That depends if your intention is to find the "truth" of the issue, vs see the issue in a new way. I don't believe in truth so maybe that's the crux of the issue.
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 10:08:29
I merge all realities by decoding space and time. Due to a bug in the universe left in there by God, my flag ends up on the hill.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 08:45:23
Personally I'd disagree. I think having to argue things from points of view I strongly disagree with, in teams with highly divergent views, has opened me up to both being less judgemental and more ope...
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 08:41:33
I accuse your reality of plagiarism because it is too similar to my reality. The international reality court rules that since my reality came first it has precedence.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 08:24:50
Isn't that a form of consideration?
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 06:27:15
I travel to an alternate reality where my flag is on the hill.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 06:13:47
I think one of the skills of debating is listening to alternative points of view and not necessarily arguing what you personally believe.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 05:26:37
Care to elaborate on that?
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 05:25:17
I tunnel under the hill and pull your flag into the ground, before pushing up my flag.
Progressivism vs Conservatism - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 05:05:20
See and I wouldn't inherently call them conservatives just because they like something from the past.
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:55:39
I declare today to be opposite day. Therefore all the losing tickets actually won. I just so happen to be the only other person who purchased a ticket.
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:50:21
Also, really cool to see the growth of the debating circuit in Tunisia! Good on Tunisia for fostering critical, free dialogue! :D
Lessons From Debating - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:49:17
Check out this awesome article: https://medium.com/speak-up-schools/5-lessons-i-learnt-from-debating-at-high-school-2391b434f632 What lessons or skills have you learnt from debating?
Progressivism vs Conservatism - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:44:52
Not to me. As you said, conservatism is relative to the time. It's not "always" superior, only at that time. It's the status quo that conservatism admires, and the social structures that mai...
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:33:56
I click an affiliate link on a dodgy website because I am the one-millionth visitor. It grants me the option of either a million dollars or my flag put up on the hill. Remarkably this just so happens ...
Planetary Discovery - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:31:15
Or well, 5 if you could Mars which I guess one should.
Planetary Discovery - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:30:48
I just think it's cool they found 7 such places in one system. That's, like, about 6 more than we have. Sorta makes you wonder about gas giants and such.
Progressivism vs Conservatism - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:29:04
As an aside, it's for this reason that most conservatives are shocked to learn every fascist party historically was right wing despite being "national socialist."
Progressivism vs Conservatism - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 04:27:58
I like to draw the link to Rome. Pompey and pals wanted to conserve the senate and republic (optimates) while Caesar and pals wanted to change it (populares). I've never seen a conservative movement a...
Planetary Discovery - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 03:08:27
Who else thinks it's cool? :D
Progressivism vs Conservatism - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 03:06:57
Yeah. A conservative by definition wants to conserve the social institutions OF THEIR TIME, not those of the past. Otherwise you're a perennialist. Of course sometimes the lines are blurred like if an...
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 03:03:30
I train a team of mutant squirrels in kung fu. They become... the ninja squirrels. As you are celebrating, the ninja squirrels secretly replace your flag with mine, then disappear without a trace...
Progressivism vs Conservatism - Posted by admin 2017-02-24 01:04:31
Be careful not to confuse perennialism for conservatism.
Progressivism vs Conservatism - Posted by admin 2017-02-23 08:45:18
Progressive because we can do better.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-22 09:40:44
Good point. Our constitution is entirely informal and our minor parties often hold more influence on important issues than major parties.
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-22 09:31:38
Haha, you can't burn it down if you don't know what it is :P
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-22 03:22:53
I convert your soldiers to my newfounded religion and use that influence to get them to plant my flag on the hill instead.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-22 03:19:41
You asked for a system of governance, not a system of morals. I think good governance accounts for the fact that there are no moral truths and people can rationally disagree on moral questions. W...
One-World Government - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:19:15
Sure but you said it in reply to my post lol
What's your favorite color? - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:18:33
I guess that proves the color is usually thought of as a system of constructed names. But yes, scientifically a color is always a part of the visible light spectrum.
One-World Government - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:16:55
Are you just saying random words to attempt to get the last post?
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:16:25
Nah *snuggles teddy bear*
What's your favorite color? - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:15:59
I strongly disagree. Just like black is not a color (it is the absence of color) or white is not a color (being just light with no hue).
One-World Government - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:14:28
IMO that's not a good thing
What's your favorite color? - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:11:53
By definition color has a hue. Grey has no hue - the entire light spectrum is reflected in grey at a certain, fixed and equal amount. Therefore grey is not a color. It is a shade.
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:09:58
Lays out a deal for both our flags to be on the hill.
One-World Government - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:07:31
That's exactly the reason why.
What's your favorite color? - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:06:19
They're the same shade
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:05:13
Entices people to come down from the hill with free hugs and candy.
One-World Government - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 21:03:15
To be frank, if anything I think the USA should be broken up. Same with Russia. Virtually all the internal tensions in those countries could be resolved that way. Only question is whether it is econom...
One-World Government - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 20:02:50
Earth is kinda big. If there were only 2 humans alive, maybe. But we have billions living in unique environments with unique concerns.
What's your favorite color? - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 12:00:00
Anyone else a fan of blue?
One-World Government - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 03:49:00
In general I'm universalist but don't believe in a one-world government. Keeping decisions relatively local helps preserve autonomy, along with other benefits.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 03:02:36
Democracy
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-21 00:31:30
Both but more the former. For example, I don't think it's right to say "it is moral for private factories to pollute rivers but not the government."
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-20 08:16:37
I think we actually agree on this. By standard I meant moral and legal standards - but one single set of consistent values may yield inconsistent outcomes as you identify in terms of who produces what...
Einstein's Relativity and Quantum Physics - Posted by admin 2017-02-18 04:58:37
That certainly assumes a lot, including that reason is individual and that "actualization" has a certain end. Some people want to be fat, for example. Will you tell them they're not living u...
Weekly Topic Thread - Posted by admin 2017-02-18 02:42:31
Cool!
Question - Posted by admin 2017-02-16 04:53:14
Recently I talked to the owner of another debate site who's doing live video debate tournaments for cash prizes. I figure maybe in the long term we could leverage their platform somewhat so we do...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-15 02:39:15
You can use the "reply to post" button under a post. OR type the @ symbol immediately followed by my username, like this: @admin :)
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-15 02:38:30
What you define as special interests, no doubt some fat cat government bureaucrat defines as public good. I'm concerned about how we devalue impacts in microeconomics, as opposed to profits. I strongl...
Current Debates, Open Debates, and Voting - Posted by admin 2017-02-14 02:43:40
Also if you want to judge something, look at this: http://www.edeb8.com/debate/Unregulated+Capitalism+is+a+moral+system%2C+and+is+perfect+as+it+is/
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-02-14 02:42:12
no economic interests can have negative influence over the economy Woah woah woah woah... back up here. WHAT!? If we take as a premise that some government economic interests have negative infl...
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-13 04:15:14
Again, by that logic any variant feature is enough for you to classify somebody as abnormal. Humans have eyes for a reason, blind people must be abnormal! That sort of talk makes me fear for democracy...
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-13 03:49:12
Our biology is not entirely about reproduction. There's more to life than procreation and the existence of every other biological system in your body is proof of that.
Einstein's Relativity and Quantum Physics - Posted by admin 2017-02-13 00:37:26
That's where I disagree. The child's uncertainty allowed them to have curiosity, and their willingness to change their paradigm or create a new one proves uncertainty. If you actually observe children...
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-13 00:11:20
Sure it is, after all, "normal" is just the range of variation people are willing to accept or include.
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-02-12 08:39:56
I don't think lobbying should be legal in the way it is commonly practiced now, for the record. If you do not accept the existence of bribery, it cannot be a crime. So if you say there's no bribe...
Einstein's Relativity and Quantum Physics - Posted by admin 2017-02-12 08:37:06
Sure I can have convictions. I'm convinced that I exist, but I'm open to changing that opinion in light of new evidence. Therefore I'm not 100% certain. A conviction is just a paradigm we create in ou...
EDEB8 Transformation - Posted by admin 2017-02-12 08:26:50
So I do like the general idea you're presenting here. I must agree that I think most people here do take debate seriously, but anything to help the community is of course much appreciated :) If y...
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-02-12 08:24:26
Depends how honest the socialist people are. Bribery is still happening in your model, you just call it "voluntary interactions". So like when I pay off a judge to avoid criminal sentencing,...
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-12 06:25:21
Again, that's exactly like defining normalcy by the biological trait of having a white skin pigment or having a non-autistic brain. I problematize that because it's both not biologically sound (people...
Einstein's Relativity and Quantum Physics - Posted by admin 2017-02-12 02:08:50
Sorry, only just noticed this. You know how to at-tag right? One of the big ironies in your position is that the biggest defender of that particular method of scientific reasoning in history was ...
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-12 02:01:08
Basically you're trying to downplay it now. The fact is that the US did not have a travel ban going on during world war 2 that was anything remotely like Trump's.
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 22:57:29
Human beings are also animals. Like that's what we are a type of biologically in terms of our kingdom.
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 22:44:18
No, if you're applying a psychological label to a sociological problem then you're defining normalcy by some dominant trait. It's like claiming disability or being non-white is abnormal. Again (and I ...
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 20:47:30
It proves, though, that it is natural. It is part of the natural world, fact, period. Whether it is MORAL is another question.
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 10:18:26
Yeah... sorry but I think the idea that anyone who for whatever reason doesn't have kids is being un-natural is both dangerous and wrong. Naturally tons of people don't have kids. And that's naturally...
What's your favorite bible verse? - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 03:21:39
Uhm... ok, you do know he's discussing her bellybutton right? Beauty is not the concern of the Bible. The point of the Song of Solomon is totally missed in this interpretation IMHO. After all cf ...
What's your favorite bible verse? - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 03:10:18
Because it's a perfect ending to a gospel. In ancient times it was common for writers to "leave open" a big moral question posed in the rest of the text. For example, in the very last senten...
Current Debates, Open Debates, and Voting - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 02:58:16
People should take this: http://www.edeb8.com/debate/Islamphobia+doesn%27t+exist/ Also for a fun probably-DA debate: http://www.edeb8.com/debate/That+we+should+federalise+Europe%5Cn-3/
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-11 01:37:38
If your assumption is that it's normal to have kids, then that's where I'd disagree with you. If your assumption is that it's normal for a species as a whole to procreate, homosexuality does not inhib...
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 22:01:15
US, although the UK did too. UK took them directly even. Behind almost every great American achievement of 1950-60s there was a German who immigrated 1930-40s.
Random backgrounds... - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 21:20:20
Never mind, it's working again :)
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 21:20:02
I should add also that I doubt humans have anything to worry about in terms of our fertility.
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 21:15:59
Animals have social capacity though. Sex is not about reproduction. Sex is an activity that sometimes just so happens to lead to reproduction but there is no evidence that reproductive intent is in an...
Gay Marriage and Homosexuality - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 09:47:20
Homosexuality is normal. Thousands of species of animals exhibit homosexuality, there's nothing biologically to suggest it's unnatural. It poses no threat to society. Gay people should have the same r...
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 09:43:34
And while you're at it, why not specifically a Protestant state? And then whose Protestantism do you follow?
Procrastination - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 09:42:22
For me this question depends on how much time I have.
Safe spaces - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 09:42:00
I think there's an environment where people can challenge each other without anyone feeling threatened by that discourse. Unfortunately it's easy to misconstrue that concept. Most people who are anti-...
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-10 00:43:25
You did let Germans into your country. Millions of them in fact, as they fled Nazi Germany. And then you used their knowledge to build an atomic bomb and win the war. Also they made spaceships and rev...
What's your favorite bible verse? - Posted by admin 2017-02-09 00:49:33
Lol. Probably Mark 16:8 they said nothing to any one, for they were afraid.
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-08 18:26:48
The former
What's your favorite bible verse? - Posted by admin 2017-02-08 12:00:00
Do you have one? If so, what is it?
Random backgrounds... - Posted by admin 2017-02-08 10:10:25
Have been temporarily disabled because desktoppr seems to have disappeared :( I mean not that anybody else probably used the feature anyway but I'm still sad.
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-02-08 10:01:46
Ah yes, more commonly called "government by bribes"
Travel ban - Posted by admin 2017-02-08 09:59:41
Yeah I'm yet to meet anyone who can make sense of it
Einstein's Relativity and Quantum Physics - Posted by admin 2017-02-05 20:02:19
Anything can be reduced to assumption of some kind or circular reasoning. Science is, as I say, just our "best fit" models.
Einstein's Relativity and Quantum Physics - Posted by admin 2017-02-05 10:39:00
It is a generally established principle that effects have causes. Certainly clouds are one explanation for the cause of rain. There might be others. Once the cloud theory starts having more evidence f...
Einstein's Relativity and Quantum Physics - Posted by admin 2017-02-05 10:04:35
To quote an Al Jazeera headline I liked recently, "science doesn't care if you believe in it or not." Whether you deny climate change or not the ice caps are melting, whether you deny that t...
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-02-05 09:41:00
FYI - the term "statism" precedes Rand by a century (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statism)
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-02-04 02:27:10
The state doesn't enforce it per say, culture enforces it. Our understanding of ownership and property is culturally relative - some cultures are strongly one or the other. I don't really think humans...
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-02-04 02:01:20
That being said I can see where you're coming from.
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-02-04 01:59:59
Well it's a different kind of politic. Less centralized, at least in theory.
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-02-04 01:52:36
Pretty darn close if you ask me.
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-02-04 01:32:18
Politics can be any exercise of power within an organization, including but not limited to a government. Boardrooms are some of the most political places on earth.
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-02-03 19:54:28
Or more accurately, state power. Politics still exists in laissez faire, it is simply not exercised by the state.
"America is the greatest country on earth" - Posted by admin 2017-02-03 19:51:05
The way I see it, anytime somebody says their country is the best in the world, they're being a jerk. No country has a spotless history.
Short Jokes - Posted by admin 2017-02-01 12:00:00
Tell a joke that's not longer than one sentence (or a question and a short reply). Like for example: What's orange and sounds like a parrot? a carrot PS if you haven't gotten the hang of...
Are most people moral? - Posted by admin 2017-01-27 12:00:00
Do you think that people in general tend to be more good than evil? Or is there more evil than good?
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-25 10:14:48
And I was showing math and logic are not apolitical. That was the whole point. Knowledge is power, literally, and insofar as maths and formal logic within that are played out in a sociological context...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-25 03:29:24
Logic is a means to an end that is not apolitical. Logic is a form of indoctrination which is testable only within a paradigm of what Weber called the "iron cage of rationality." So the ques...
King of the Hill - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 12:00:00
In this game, you need to plant your flag on an imaginary hill. Come up with hilarious ways to get the previous poster's flag down and put your own flag on top. To begin I just climb the hill and...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 10:32:16
People's co-existence itself is a socially defined value. You can't escape a value system judgment, whether it's your concept of objectivism or any other philosophy. I'm making the point that states p...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 08:18:28
Objectivism is a subset of naturalism. Taxomatically, naturalism describes all rights that exist a priori from natural (as in, not supernatural) causes. For example the concept of human rights (which ...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 06:43:03
In saying neoliberal I wasn't meaning to frame you, but rather name the body of argumentation I associate with the paradigm informing your discourse on modes of being. Please don't take anything I say...
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 05:44:56
I'd take that debate
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 05:04:25
Ok and what happens when people fail? "Oh just get back up and try again?" In critical theory that's called "modes of being," when there are certain acceptable ways to exercise tal...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 03:38:34
For what it's worth, negative income tax is a terrible idea. Loopholes galore.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2017-01-23 03:36:48
@BioHazard is right but I want to also question the notion that pride is individually held. It's like you're trying to hold me to account for whatever achievements you consider to be "mine"....
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2017-01-22 18:34:11
You should add a link to it
Are some cultures better? - Posted by admin 2017-01-21 12:00:00
This overlaps a bit with morality, but I suppose it bears asking - are all cultures "created equal" and if not, which cultures are the superior ones?
Favourite Disney Movie - Posted by admin 2017-01-20 02:15:33
Same actually. I grew up with that film. I also loved the 90s Homeward Bound remake.
Plagerism isn't wrong. - Posted by admin 2017-01-20 02:14:13
If you write a book and put on the cover "By Krazy" you're saying everything you wrote in that book (except things you've attributed) is your work (with the exception of fair use). The only ...
Feminism or Cancer? - Posted by admin 2017-01-20 01:46:14
Sodom and Gomorrah are further proof that these narratives are not universal. You can claim they are "natural" but then you need to justify what that actually means and where your evidence i...
Should there be an economics subforum? - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 12:00:00
I've always said it isn't necessary. I wonder what today's community thinks though. If there was a subforum for economics, would you post in it? What kind of thing would you discuss?
What do people think of Islam in your country? - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 10:34:43
Fairly good, mostly. The average person is pretty liberal over here. My former debate partner was muslim (we won a competition together :)) and he seemed to be cool with everyone.
Feminism or Cancer? - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 10:31:49
There's a big difference between "all in the mind" and socially constructed. Secondly it's you who's bringing the claim so it's your burden to prove. Third I did show some - that there have ...
Plagerism isn't wrong. - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 04:48:31
Plagiarism is more commonly defined not as "stealing words" but "stealing works". For instance, if I claimed I wrote Moonlight Sonata that would probably be dishonest, because Beet...
Feminism or Cancer? - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 04:07:22
So I guess my response to this is simple - do you have any objective evidence for these claims, or are they based on your personal worldview/belief?
Feminism or Cancer? - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 03:33:08
We don't disagree on any of that. All my point requires is an understanding that masculine / feminine is socially defined.
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 03:13:14
You have layers of autonomy. It's not like "you're free" or "you're a slave". It's just that there are many implicit and explicit forms of coercion. When we try to describe these i...
Feminism or Cancer? - Posted by admin 2017-01-19 03:02:58
I've seen that too. I was trying to distinguish them because in Krazy's posts his conception of gender seemed more like sex.
What do people think of Islam in your country? - Posted by admin 2017-01-18 12:00:00
Probably one of the most divisive religions. Putting aside your personal views, how do you think Islam is generally perceived where you live?
Feminism or Cancer? - Posted by admin 2017-01-18 06:44:24
There's a difference between gender (are you a girl or boy) and labels associated with them (feminine/masculine). He describes there being certain physical characteristics that define genders and, in ...
Capitalism, coercion, and slavery - Posted by admin 2017-01-18 06:39:24
What you observe about coercion is very true and central to critical organizational theory.
Is Christianity a form of Judaism? - Posted by admin 2017-01-18 00:49:58
They don't believe in the same stuff, and they interpret it differently. Likewise there are similarities in all religions. Buddhism is not the same as Christianity either even though both cherish the ...
Is Christianity a form of Judaism? - Posted by admin 2017-01-17 18:43:03
No, those are sects of the same religion. They believe in essentially the same stuff, but interpret it differently.
Plagerism isn't wrong. - Posted by admin 2017-01-17 18:25:44
Do you think it's wrong to lie and say "this is all my original work" when it isn't?
Is Christianity a form of Judaism? - Posted by admin 2017-01-17 17:59:40
The New Testament and the Talmud.
Feminism or Cancer? - Posted by admin 2017-01-17 10:26:59
I think this is interesting to deconstruct because "feminine" is socio-culturally defined. What is "feminine" is unique in every place at any time - women have had many roles throu...
Is Christianity a form of Judaism? - Posted by admin 2017-01-17 10:02:19
It's basically the same story. Just as the Ba'hai believe in another prophet after Muhammed. The point is this - being from one religious tradition is different from having the same religion.
Is Christianity a form of Judaism? - Posted by admin 2017-01-13 09:28:04
Let me reverse that slightly. Is Islam a form of Christianity?
What's the most confusing thing about edeb8? - Posted by admin 2017-01-11 12:00:00
Anything that just doesn't make sense to you?
Favourite Disney Movie - Posted by admin 2017-01-10 12:00:00
Bonus points if it's a classic. What Disney-produced film do you enjoy the most?
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-01-10 08:24:27
Progressive. That way each person pays an equal burden. 25% of income is worth a lot more to a poor person than to a wealthy person, so they have a bigger burden in a flat tax.
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-01-10 03:30:07
Kinda depends on what you think is fair. To me, it's not fair to put massive tax burdens on those who cannot afford it, and a relatively minuscule tax burden on those who can.
Fighting for what is "right" - Posted by admin 2017-01-10 03:19:21
Not really. In some cases individuals may have vested interests for example, which is fair enough. In your example I don't mind voter IDs as long as they're free and easily accessible, even though I'm...
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-01-10 01:09:50
Yeah, we don't have a capital gains tax and it's a HUGE problem! Basically it makes speculation ridiculously easy for the upper class, especially on property. Currently in NZ the corporate tax is...
Tournament started notifications - Posted by admin 2017-01-10 01:06:40
Only participants should get them
Tournament started notifications - Posted by admin 2017-01-09 20:54:18
Does anyone know if these are actually being sent? It's hard for me to confirm.
Continue the story... - Posted by admin 2017-01-09 12:00:00
Once upon a time...
Fighting for what is "right" - Posted by admin 2017-01-09 10:41:17
No, some are just unenlightened XD More to the point I think it conceited for anyone to think they're absolutely right. Diversity of thought is a good thing because that stimulates debate and tha...
About the temporary site closure - Posted by admin 2017-01-09 05:23:19
We've been told there have been issues with sending "spam" again. This time I'm fairly sure it's a false alarm. So that this doesn't happen again I'm going to be updating the logs we use, so...
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-01-08 22:33:03
If that were to happen the inflation would be ridiculous so of course I wouldn't favor that. Money is not a magical way to acquire stuff. I like estate taxes. Yeah there's loopholes but overall i...
Current Debates, Open Debates, and Voting - Posted by admin 2017-01-08 22:07:14
Can I just say that I like this thread? :)
Spot the lie - Posted by admin 2017-01-08 12:00:00
In this game, each player says 3 things - 2 things which are true, and one which is not. If you're the first to spot the lie, it's your turn! I'll go first - 1. I've been in the water with a s...
What taxes should there be? - Posted by admin 2017-01-07 12:00:00
How is the tax system in your country? What taxes would you change / add / remove if you had the power?
New Year, new theme - Posted by admin 2017-01-04 11:15:00
Why stick with a boring old theme for 2017? This is a great chance for people to update their profile a bit. Show off your profile themes with a screenshot here. :)
Member of the year - Posted by admin 2017-01-02 20:53:40
I'll call this one later today and then we also have to vote for debater of the year.
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2017-01-02 10:03:40
I believe the basis of morality is different. I believe morality is premised on human empathy, encompassing care for the environment and other people. Even if there were no other people, there would s...
Predictions for 2017 - Posted by admin 2017-01-01 22:47:25
Woah, some pretty insane ones here. uhm ... I predict there will be no significant change to NZ's government in our upcoming elections?
New Year - Posted by admin 2017-01-01 22:45:56
To be fair in Ethiopia they have 13 months in the year, start years in September, and are currently in 2005.
New Year - Posted by admin 2017-01-01 20:00:00
Does new years day hold any special significance for you? Or is it just another holiday? Is it good to have a time like this every so often?
Predictions for 2017 - Posted by admin 2017-01-01 15:00:00
What's going to happen? Should be pretty crazy if last year is anything to go by.
One million words - Posted by admin 2017-01-01 04:20:52
Edeb8's debates, put together, now contain over a million words of argumentation! By contrast, most novels are 80-100k words. Just thought I'd post a cool fact to start off the new year :D
New years resolutions - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 13:00:00
Anyone have any plans for the year ahead?
TweetyPie Trump. Why? - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 12:44:40
That simply proves he's a politician now. He's using different tools to achieve his ends. So what?
Union blackmail. - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 12:42:45
You started the thread by posting a view and not defending it. Asking you to defend your view doesn't first require defending the contrary opinion. It's like if I say "God exists and you can't pr...
Happy new year 2017! - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 12:00:00
Feel free to celebrate here!
Union blackmail. - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 08:09:26
Because the right to protest and the right of free assembly/speech are sacrosanct. The alternative is literally forcing people to work which is slavery. However, you shouldn't ask somebody to pro...
TweetyPie Trump. Why? - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 08:07:51
Oh I believe he's got his own opinions and stuff, I just doubt twitter activity is a great indicator of any given person's true nature. If twitter is accurate in some way that doesn't mean it's totall...
Song of the year - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 08:06:02
I actually lose track of which songs are composed when. Right now I'm listening to a lot of airline boarding music I discovered this year lol. How about you?
Flat Earth - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 06:41:30
Yes because of course the Egyptians were SO scientifically advanced right?
Union blackmail. - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 06:36:42
Why?
TweetyPie Trump. Why? - Posted by admin 2016-12-31 06:36:26
I don't think anyone should put any stock in Twitter or Facebook. It's too virtual to mean anything.
Normal Mafia sign ups - Posted by admin 2016-12-30 10:39:18
Eh, sure. Not a big fan but always good to see attempts at more activity :)
Normal Mafia sign ups - Posted by admin 2016-12-30 02:22:05
Good luck getting 8 people
Song of the year - Posted by admin 2016-12-29 02:00:00
What was your favorite song from 2016?
Reflect on 2016 here - Posted by admin 2016-12-28 21:54:03
Well for one I discovered a passion in a completely different field, to the extent that I'm now doing masters study in it next year haha
Member of the year - Posted by admin 2016-12-28 09:36:07
I'm just going to go ahead and extend the voting period on this... maybe for another day or two. We've only got 2 votes so far so that's not a great turnout guys!
Reflect on 2016 here - Posted by admin 2016-12-26 12:00:00
Let's look back on one of the strangest years in memory :)
Member of the year - Posted by admin 2016-12-26 07:19:12
VOTING IS NOW OPEN! Who is 2016's best community member? And do you agree with my "top 5" shortlist?
Best of Edeb8 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-12-25 12:00:00
What will you remember about the past year on edeb8? Did you join this year? Have a memorable debate? Let us know :)
January 2017 Debating Tournament - Posted by admin 2016-12-24 22:52:09
Does this mean we can see the R1 matchups now?
XMas Badge! - Posted by admin 2016-12-24 22:48:07
Don't forget, anyone who logs into edeb8 over Christmas gets a special badge! :)
Edeb8 Merch - Posted by admin 2016-12-24 12:00:00
This is never going to happen but sometimes I get crazy ideas for threads or things to discuss. Would you ever wear an edeb8-branded t-shirt?
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-12-24 03:18:17
So we take murder here in its non-legal sense. I defined murder as the killing of another human being on purpose. States kill other people on purpose when they impose laws to execute them. I disa...
Member of the year - Posted by admin 2016-12-24 03:09:42
It's the time again to vote for member of the year! Join this group to join the vote: http://www.edeb8.com/group/Edeb8+Member+Awards/ Voting opens on the 26th. Until then, share your ideas f...
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-12-23 23:45:07
Law is meaningful only insofar as people give it meaning. There's no absolute standard - rather, laws are culturally and politically determined in particular times in particular places. And while I be...
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-12-23 21:11:06
For that you need to accept that death and lashings are justifiable limitations on bodily autonomy. I don't think prison makes everything worse if it is used properly. People also have this weird view...
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-12-23 19:33:50
All that could be true and my point would still stand. The list proves that the death penalty is harsher. If you think it is equally or less harsh, I suppose, you wouldn't object to its removal anyway...
VIP one-page essay - Posted by admin 2016-12-22 01:03:45
Check the tournament website. There's a link on the tournament's page.
Debate Hate - Posted by admin 2016-12-21 09:49:26
I hate debating when it's not debating anymore. I've been in some clubs which have seemed like old boys clubs. I hate going to major tournaments knowing more money is being spent on social outings and...
VIP one-page essay - Posted by admin 2016-12-21 04:08:50
I should be admitted to the VIP club of the January tournament because I bet nobody else will even bother to apply. :D
January 2017 Debating Tournament - Posted by admin 2016-12-21 04:02:06
You know your presentation at the top of the VIP page? Apparently it says I need permission to see it. GREAT initiative though :D
Could Santa actually exist? - Posted by admin 2016-12-19 12:00:00
Is it scientifically possible for the legend to be true?
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-19 00:29:32
I doubt it. Conservatives have been mocking progressives pushing for the gradual introduction of a national income for decades. They'll just be happy watching the poor suffer.
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 23:46:25
The more flat the tax, the less progressive it is. That's the overall point. Conservatives want to completely eliminate taxes Not sure about that. Plenty of neocons would gladly tax and spend l...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 23:18:50
You said "never" and that's very absolute. Economic conditions change over time naturally. In good times it might be rare to not have a job for too long. In bad it is quite common. Poli...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 22:56:43
Very absolute statement. I'm sure many in the Great Depression era would beg to disagree.
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 21:45:17
There's virtually no justification for flat tax being progressive. The usual logic is something like this: a 20% flat tax means a person earning $1 only pays 20c, while somebody earning $10 has to pay...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 21:39:20
Success is not a choice. I never saw anyone too lazy to work when I was in the unemployment office. What I saw was a lot of people hungry for a chance. I don't think it's fair to call them idiots, eve...
Eternal Oblivion - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 20:11:21
Sounds a lot like anxiety.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 20:10:36
Same problem. I had many people from those fields ask me for work, too.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 20:09:33
The problem isn't having less companies, it's the accumulation of capital by a small number of people. You'd care because self-actualization entails more than basic human needs being met.
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 20:08:05
liberalism is just a scheme for big business to regulate the small guy out of business As a businessperson one of my biggest threats was the tax department. I'm sure it's the same for small business...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 19:34:18
You'd have to oppress the poor to retain control of capital in times of social unrest. Poor always rise up against wealth inequality in the long term, and I gave many examples earlier. It's a sociolog...
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 19:20:56
Trump looks pretty capable of using power to generate wealth to me, but as a liberal, whose policies do you think I will support? Obviously Bernie's. Trumps policies are anti-globalist, nationalist, p...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 07:20:11
Markets distribute wealth to those who produce stuff. Giving out wealth to all sounds very much like the opposite of a market to me. To be a producer, you need capital. To lack moderate amounts of cap...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 04:18:55
Online gambling isn't an infinite money supply. By the same logic you could say people in the yesteryear made easy money by going to a physical casino. The internet has its own Las Vegas, and it is no...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-18 00:43:08
They are getting poorer relative to the wealthy. You have to remember economics is marginal, not absolute. Although I know kids who have neither lunches or cellphones. The problem is ultimately s...
Going on another hike! - Posted by admin 2016-12-17 21:44:34
Photos as promised :) http://imgur.com/a/FWOR9
Personal Motto - Posted by admin 2016-12-17 12:00:00
If you had to come up with a short phrase that signifies what you stand for, what would it be? Bonus points if it's in Latin.
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-17 06:11:46
It all boils down to this - governments can either allow the rich to get richer while the poor get poorer, or they can do something about it.
Recessions and depressions - Posted by admin 2016-12-17 05:42:15
There are indeed several causes. Chicago school economists would be rather peeved at you ignoring the great stagflation of the 1970s, too. The basic problem is what factors most affect the supply...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-17 05:37:52
I think it's less of an assumption and more of a conclusion. You claim people don't amass capital in a voluntary society. I'd like you to explain the story of every western liberal democracy in the la...
Going on another hike! - Posted by admin 2016-12-17 05:19:03
Yes I was
Server Outage - Posted by admin 2016-12-17 05:18:46
Yes it would
Going on another hike! - Posted by admin 2016-12-12 01:01:51
This time I'll be visiting the nelson lakes! Wish me luck, I hear there's bad weather passing through.
Old Classics - Posted by admin 2016-12-12 00:58:19
Thread inspired by: http://www.konbini.com/us/entertainment/mozart-officially-sold-the-most-cds-in-2016-beats-drake/ Who's your favorite classical composer?
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-10 10:05:43
Any system that meets those four conditions will have this problem. So let's take an extreme anarcho-capitalist society. Somebody buys capital or bullies others into giving them capital. Gradually the...
Server Outage - Posted by admin 2016-12-10 09:48:14
Hey - Many of you will be familiar with a recent unplanned server outage that took place. I hope it hasn't seriously affected anyone's debates - if it has contact a moderator and we'll sort ...
The rise of wealth inequality - Posted by admin 2016-12-09 10:52:18
Here's the thing. Plenty of billionaires are unemployed. They've never worked a day in their life because they can happily live comfortable lives off the interest. Some forefather was fortunate enough...
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-06 00:48:06
Oh sure. You can try to enforce a monopoly for a brief period. It's not a stable market structure though. Poor investment.
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-06 00:42:50
Meh. I also don't believe in synergy or leadership. All useless concepts.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-12-06 00:19:32
Well not buying into it yourself would be a start (?)
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-06 00:18:55
I understand a free market to be an economy with a lot of freedom, both positive and negative. So that's different from unregulated. Laissez faire is immoral, exploitative, unequal, not free, and cert...
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 23:59:34
Markets are efficient, monopolies are not. Monopolies are the result of exploitation that do not form an inherent part of a "free" market. This is why govts need to balance both forms of lib...
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 23:52:15
It's surprising how nonchalant you are about that.
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 23:50:43
Free and equal playing field for companies, free and equal for workers. Not being able to eat is much more a barrier for a person than a company.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 23:47:37
See how the media can decide who gets elected by making up words that mean nothing?
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 23:45:38
Sometimes you have to stand up for what's right even if you think you're too small to make a difference. Not really. I believe in a competitive market so of course I don't care for corporations.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 23:44:00
Pretty meaningless title, then.
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 23:39:00
Of course the economy's my concern. Without the economy my business can't operate and I couldn't start another. Why not bailout those workers? Assisting the individuals as opposed to the company.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 01:40:41
They certainly have been.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 01:40:19
Compared to who? I mean she's "A" Wall Street candidate but that's not saying a lot unfortunately.
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-05 01:39:30
Hmmm ... me vs the whole economy. I think I know what's more important. No. A bailout isn't to me, it's to my company. Who would actually need money in that scenario is not my company but me.
Determinism (Neurological) - Posted by admin 2016-12-04 20:13:35
So what? Assume everything you just said is true. My conscious brain has given me the illusion of free will, whatever. Does that justify me going on a violent rampage and then claiming "my subcon...
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-04 20:11:50
No. That would make significantly less sense because: a) the collapse wouldn't effect anyone except me, and b) if they really wanted to bail me out, why not give me a handout instead?
January 2017 Debating Tournament - Posted by admin 2016-12-04 07:53:53
Currently you have me and one other person I think, so that's a start :)
Bailouts - Posted by admin 2016-12-04 00:06:28
I'm actually thinking states should bailout individuals instead of corporations. Otherwise it creates perverse incentives for shareholders.
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-12-03 23:20:19
More the former.
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-12-03 23:13:49
Against
Determinism (Neurological) - Posted by admin 2016-12-02 20:55:42
That's where I lose you. Maybe we're predetermined to make rational moral decisions. Just because there's a fixed outcome doesn't imply we shouldn't make good decisions now, doubly so if we don't know...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-12-02 20:53:35
Opening the floodgates, I see
Determinism (Neurological) - Posted by admin 2016-12-02 00:27:33
Why does this matter?
Political parties - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 22:30:20
Not really. They're not the most intelligent bunch for the most part.
Political parties - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 22:15:38
Personally I tend to vote Green, although I like some ideas from Maori and NZ First too.
Political parties - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 22:13:46
Nice idea for a thread! NZ is very multi-party. The largest are National (center-right) and Labor (left). Other parties who hold seats in our parliament are the Green Party, New Zealand First Par...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 22:04:02
Lies
Drug policy - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 21:57:59
I have nothing against purified forms of THC (or any other ingredient in marijuana) being used in pills. There should be no reason, however, to smoke marijuana.
Drug policy - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 21:57:06
There's virtually no evidence of that economic boom anyway.
Drug policy - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 21:52:00
Similar story. Lots of people like the idea of legalizing it.
Drug policy - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 21:47:03
It totally is. Very strong movement to legalize it.
Drug policy - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 21:38:50
Prison doesn't heal the problem. For dealers, sure. For users, no.
Drug policy - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 21:29:29
Being forced into a rehab center is a form of mandatory minimum. Nice to have two competing views. We should have a debate sometime :)
Drug policy - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 19:12:41
It's not legal. Personally I don't think recreational drugs should, in general, be legal. I also think tobacco should be illegal and alcohol should be more heavily restricted. Punishment should be for...
What's your favorite food? - Posted by admin 2016-12-01 19:09:50
I'm known for enjoying various dishes involving chicken and rice.
Update for tournaments - Posted by admin 2016-11-29 22:24:38
You can now have a custom list of topics! Yay! :D
BioHazard's profile - Posted by admin 2016-11-29 03:08:19
@BioHazard recently included his views on a number of topics on his profile. Maybe we should make a site-wide initiative to do this as well?
What's your favorite food? - Posted by admin 2016-11-27 03:38:27
Just thought we should have another random thread.
Happy Thanksgiving! - Posted by admin 2016-11-24 21:11:59
Hi American friends!
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-11-23 00:59:03
Efficient compared to what? In general it's not terribly efficient but without some point of reference it's a bit meaningless. I think the death penalty is harsher because 1) it restricts a mor...
Magic Tricks - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 11:37:27
Can anyone here outclass Harry Potter?
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 11:36:00
It would be a shame if this thread died :(
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 09:57:13
To be clear: I believe in natural rights. I understand that somebody else's understanding of natural rights may not be the same as mine. Therefore from their perspective, they may subjectively conside...
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 09:56:38
Not all of them are. Racists are just more likely to be republicans.
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 06:13:35
Natural rights are inherent. Just because I don't believe in the death penalty doesn't mean it can be objectively proven worse, at least until a reliable future predictor is invented.
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 06:07:52
A bundle of morally permissible actions one has because one is human. Also called human rights.
Capital Punishment - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 06:02:22
Opposed, because life is a natural right that cannot be surrendered, therefore it is not part of the social contract.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 05:58:45
In my view, yes. We need to get rid of two notions here. One is that racism is bad or wrong. That's not always the case. The other is that affirmative action is necessarily good. Without tho...
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-22 03:44:54
Anyone who supports any form of genocide is a racist IMO. In general, if you support discrimination of any sort on racial grounds, I consider that a form of racism. A person who knowingly holds racist...
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-21 22:09:26
A lot of democrats are, too. The most racist candidate in the election, AFAIK, was the Green VP Ajamu. Other republicans are not. In general, however, because the republicans TEND TO be conservat...
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-21 21:59:18
Sure. To be clear I don't think he's significantly less racist than most republicans. But still.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-21 21:46:02
Yip
Chess World Championship - Posted by admin 2016-11-21 21:45:13
This is why it's worth thinking about moves for a long time
Chess World Championship - Posted by admin 2016-11-21 21:30:08
It comes with practice, I think. Most good players don't consider all the possible moves, just think about general patterns that might show them where to look for moves.
Dishonesty in debating - Posted by admin 2016-11-16 07:26:21
How do people feel about people citing fake experts and stuff in debates? Recently it's been a hot topic in places where debate is a bit more academic: https://www.reddit.com/r/Debate/comments/5d...
Supermoon - Posted by admin 2016-11-16 03:22:53
Yes, it was quite scary
SOCINT - Posted by admin 2016-11-15 19:04:57
Depends where you live, but in general, SOCINT means either mass surveillance or it's completely ineffective. Either way it's bad.
SOCINT - Posted by admin 2016-11-15 13:54:00
Sure but then criminals would use that medium, right?
SOCINT - Posted by admin 2016-11-15 13:47:29
Well I mean it's technically possible. The question is whether they should.
Supermoon - Posted by admin 2016-11-15 09:36:28
It is lol.
SOCINT - Posted by admin 2016-11-14 16:29:27
Except that a lot of data IS posted as "private" or "for friends only" on social media. Retweeting "I like ISIS" doesn't inherently make you a terrorist. It depends ...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-14 05:59:40
Got to disagree with you on that
SOCINT - Posted by admin 2016-11-14 04:40:06
"Mass surveillance"
Supermoon - Posted by admin 2016-11-13 15:00:48
Well we got an earthquake. And a tsunami. Stupid moon messing with us probably.
Chess World Championship - Posted by admin 2016-11-12 08:28:17
Any other chess nerds out there? Make The Trompovsky Great Again!
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-09 17:43:48
You're not the first person to ask me that today.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-09 08:11:48
Yip, my brother's "very happy"
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-08 17:23:18
Can we take a moment to appreciate that "admin" is the coolest name of all?
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-11-08 16:30:34
Small aside - congrats on NaNoWriMo! You should make a thread telling us about your novel sometime.
USA Presidential Election Thread - Posted by admin 2016-11-08 16:24:36
I suspect the winner will be that candidate who nobody likes. ;) Go vote, Americans.
Anyone celebrate Guy Fawkes? - Posted by admin 2016-11-08 05:18:31
'Cause fireworks.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-08 05:18:30
A particular stranger would be a cool name
Anyone celebrate Guy Fawkes? - Posted by admin 2016-11-06 00:43:13
Personally I love wandering around town and watching fireworks :)
Grace Provision in the Law - Posted by admin 2016-11-05 04:52:25
It's kinda like how rights to sell your own organs are restricted. There are perverse incentives that could make victims release dangerous people. Justice for the victim does not necessarily mean givi...
Grace Provision in the Law - Posted by admin 2016-11-05 04:29:45
And why would you do that? You go through all this effort to secure a prosecution and then at the end say rape's ok, this person can go free. I can't think of a single good reason why judges, highly t...
Subdomain issue - Posted by admin 2016-11-04 13:32:41
Working again :)
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-04 07:28:10
You're a random stranger, not merely a stranger.
Grace Provision in the Law - Posted by admin 2016-11-04 07:27:27
In what legitimate circumstance would it be a good idea to have such a provision?
Flat Earth - Posted by admin 2016-11-04 07:26:37
Lol
Subdomain issue - Posted by admin 2016-11-04 07:25:51
I've noted that recently there seems to be a DNS bug. Possibly related to the DNS switch last month. As a result the mobile site, debate shortlinks and other stuff aren't working properly. My host and...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-03 08:46:16
Who is this stranger?
Flat Earth - Posted by admin 2016-11-02 14:34:07
I've seen the links and they only strengthened my conviction.
Flat Earth - Posted by admin 2016-11-02 13:14:43
That nobody who has done research into it really believes it to that extent.
Need Your Ideas for helloween - Posted by admin 2016-11-02 13:06:15
Isn't it kinda too late already?
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-02 02:20:38
Touche.
Flat Earth - Posted by admin 2016-11-02 01:55:57
I think it's a joke
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-11-02 01:55:09
Replies like that are lame
Random protip of the day - Posted by admin 2016-11-01 13:46:06
Did you know that thumbs-upping debates makes them appear on edeb8's homepage (in the popular debates box)? The stats page also lists top-thumbs-upped debates. Please thumbs-up good debates today...
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-27 15:31:56
Reframe that so existence is the conclusion not the premise. We're trying to establish the quality of existence here not assume it. So it's that could exist if it was all-powerful, not that could...
It's about to be Halloween! - Posted by admin 2016-10-27 15:30:28
I'm considering starting a tradition of watching Over The Garden Wall for it each year. Also I have a bag of candy ready for the extremely likely possibility that no kids come trick or treating. XD
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-27 12:41:54
So then we're not arguing about whether an omnipotent being exists. We're arguing over whether something is all-powerful, whether it exists or not. Because if something is all powerful you concede it ...
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-27 12:29:57
There's a difference between "if he exists" and "if he is omnipotent".
It's about to be Halloween! - Posted by admin 2016-10-27 10:46:29
Who's excited? How will you be celebrating this year?
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 20:51:40
So either a non-all powerful being doesn't exist, or an all-powerful being does? I'm not sure that's logically exclusive.
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 19:27:46
As I said earlier, if you ignore logic then the question of whether God exists or not ceases to be relevant. Therefore I'm happy to accept logic in this discussion.
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 18:36:03
Suppose we prove that something must be infinitely powerful
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 18:24:42
hypothetically infinitely powerful. You are saying that a thing exists because it has a certain characteristic. These are two different positions for the reason I stated above. I'm certain you're de...
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 13:52:17
There's a difference between it having to exist and you being that infinitely powerful being. We are asserting it exists because it is infinitely powerful. You can claim ANYTHING is an assertion....
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 13:15:28
I think the substantive answer you're giving is that power is defined by the quality of existence, not existence by power (it's hard to tell because you need commas lol). If so then you must assume a ...
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 12:56:56
Hypothetically, if it has infinite power, it exists, right?
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 12:43:38
Sure. Logically, power measures something existing. Or put in reverse, something that does not exist has no power.
Big Personal Announcement - Posted by admin 2016-10-26 03:26:16
So today is World Teacher's Day, and I kinda wanted to use today to share something big. Next year I'll be doing a Masters degree in Teaching and Learning. It's an intensive, one-year degree that woul...
Edeb8 Political Compass - Posted by admin 2016-10-25 01:03:36
It has also been done here: http://www.edeb8.com/forum/Society/1285/0/ or http://www.edeb8.com/forum/EDEB8.com+Site/1313/0/ My results anyway are pretty close to you: https://www.politicalcompa...
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-25 00:41:19
Almost all Maori now are mixed-heritage which complicates things. I think by now the average New Zealander has embraced elements of Maori culture. People feel connected to the tribe(s) they belong to....
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-25 00:30:07
Of course if God can break contradictions then he needn't exist to be all-powerful. So I'm happy to accept that even if it's burden pushing. However notwithstanding that I don't see how your answ...
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-24 04:47:32
Please share one example.
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-24 01:59:00
We can disprove that by looking at the opposite. Suppose there was an integer larger than 7 and smaller than 5. These two are contradictory, therefore we can say this integer does not exist. This is n...
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-24 01:23:21
Lacking technology is not a culture. In every other respect I'd say that statement is misguided and empirically false. It's a colonial mindset that simply did not hold true.
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 21:32:23
Oh, and fire_wings. fire_wings will probably get himself a free point. It's setting up for some interesting finals I think :)
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 21:30:47
So I started round 3 ... the draw has some interesting features but it's pretty much what I'd backtabbed anyway. missbailey8 vs lannan13 and Famousdebater vs SolonKR from DDO are your top attractions ...
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 21:19:45
I dunno. Earth might prove to be an isolated place... "Isolation" has little to do with actual population and more to do with whether you're in contact with people who are actually subs...
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 21:11:02
Such a world would probably be characterized by relatively little scarcity, little conflict and much isolation.
Refuting God - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 19:16:21
My favorite ontological: to be all-powerful and not exist is contradictory.
Remainder of the updates - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 12:08:34
So, in addition to that password stuff I mentioned before, I've also changed a lot of things with teams. Teams are cooler Like groups, teams can now have custom backgrounds. For both groups and...
Labor Day - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 09:36:24
We celebrate labor here tomorrow! Do you have a labor day in your country? If so what do you usually do on it?
I am the new edeb8 mod. AMA - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 05:54:47
The song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln9KiF30D7Q What's your favorite debate format? Favorite food? What's one thing you hope you will see in your lifetime?
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 04:17:03
Which is not necessarily evidence of a conservative ideology. When the Europeans came into contact with the Maori people in New Zealand for example, they readily adopted European ideas, initially...
I am the new edeb8 mod. AMA - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 03:34:04
Why'd you first decide to try debating? What's the last classical music piece you listened to? Name one hero to you / person you look up to?
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 03:31:33
When Columbus came to North America did he find small bands of hunter gatherers as crossed the Bering Sea over 10,000 years prior? Of course not. Their society had evolved. Look at the difference...
Password changes (and what they mean for you) - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 02:54:26
So today there's been a security update - I have some features I want to roll out too but I wanted to talk about this first. You already know that now there's a second mod in the house by the name of ...
Death of Conservatism? - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 02:49:58
Well duh. What's conservatism to conserve? Society is not stagnant forever, much as conservatives try to keep the old ways. Inherently over time, conservatism has to make room for new ideas. Like...
Citizens United - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 02:12:05
Totally.
Citizens United - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 01:00:54
It's a form of free speech, yes.
Mod Update - Posted by admin 2016-10-23 00:59:42
Here's a first tip. Don't at-tag and put punctuation right after the tag. It doesn't work because punctuation can also be part of a username. That would have tagged "admin." if there was suc...
Citizens United - Posted by admin 2016-10-22 07:56:15
Freedom of speech is limited by federal government right now in so many ways. For example in the name of defense. If the court wants to hold the standard that the remainder of the constitution ca...
Mod Update - Posted by admin 2016-10-22 07:53:10
Hey all! This weekend I'm going to be making an update to edeb8 which will improve a couple of features. Part of this is a security update that I want to make which will help better protect your ...
DNS update - Posted by admin 2016-10-21 22:20:16
The thing that translates what IP address "edeb8.com" corresponds to, changes from one computer to another computer.
DNS update - Posted by admin 2016-10-20 09:37:29
Just an FYI that edeb8's DNS will be moving shortly. Shouldn't cause too many problems but please let me know if something disappears or something.
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-10-16 23:49:05
I mean that many trade deals take responsibility for regulating that trade away from the people and into the hands of trade courts. They also may impose fines on governments that break the deal. These...
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-10-16 23:47:46
Insofar as it is at odds with self-determination, yes. But I believe technology and economic capacity which brings people together is a good thing, so that part of globalization I fully support.
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-10-16 23:39:33
I don't like unregulated trade. Governments must retain sovereignty. However I believe in economically competitive international trade. So keep fair regulations and no to trade courts, but other than ...
Keynesian economics on capitalism - Posted by admin 2016-10-11 21:36:05
The theory assumes people react after the policy change, not before. When people react too soon, that changes the policy.
Keynesian economics on capitalism - Posted by admin 2016-10-11 04:01:49
I don't really believe in "schools of thought". I tend to pick little bits from here and there. Keynes said a lot of important stuff but it's not like it's the word of God or something.
Keynesian economics on capitalism - Posted by admin 2016-10-11 00:13:01
As I've always tried to explain to people, Keynes himself argued his theory is correct in the short term. This is validated by plenty of observational data. To this end virtually no serious economist ...
General Mod Stuff - Posted by admin 2016-10-10 00:48:52
More like an interview.
General Mod Stuff - Posted by admin 2016-10-09 20:31:31
There's 3 main candidates for the mod position, so I'm kinda tossing up. In the meantime I thought it might be interesting for people to see the interview questions and the answers I was looking for. ...
Does edeb8 need a second mod? - Posted by admin 2016-10-07 09:03:06
Don't worry, I figured.
Does edeb8 need a second mod? - Posted by admin 2016-10-07 06:54:32
People have reported me for all sorts of junk before. A report doesn't make it true.
Anyone for Mafia? - Posted by admin 2016-10-07 04:47:10
It's been tried unsuccessfully on this site about half a dozen times. There's even a fairly defunct group for it.
Does edeb8 need a second mod? - Posted by admin 2016-10-07 04:44:54
... no because it's clearly not spam. Spam is unsolicited messages. AT BEST it's advertising. It's non-commercial and in DDO's interest so I'd say I'm probably ok. I've been advertising the WODC ...
Does edeb8 need a second mod? - Posted by admin 2016-10-06 19:00:54
This ad goes for edeb8 people too: http://www.debate.org/forums/debate.org/topic/93838/
Does edeb8 need a second mod? - Posted by admin 2016-10-06 05:51:14
Would anybody be particularly upset if I asked on DDO?
Does edeb8 need a second mod? - Posted by admin 2016-10-05 17:54:20
Probably just one person, whom I couldn't afford to pay out of pocket. Options are open though.
Does edeb8 need a second mod? - Posted by admin 2016-10-05 06:00:50
Originally I've been against it due to me being able to handle everything. The last few weeks have perhaps proven that I might not be able to keep that up forever. If we did get another mod, how ...
Edeb8 now has 500 debates! - Posted by admin 2016-10-04 05:24:46
YAY!
Open border policy - Posted by admin 2016-10-03 05:14:55
No because of property values. People get trapped in slums where houses are worthless. Meanwhile speculators artificially inflate the prices elsewhere. It would only be self-correcting if you ignore s...
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-10-02 19:00:43
Pretty much. Guns are not defensive as I've pointed out many times before. At best they're a deterrent, even so a very poor one. Which makes it all the crazier for me that some people want to conceal ...
Open border policy - Posted by admin 2016-10-02 18:42:45
Sometimes I just miss threads XD It's not terrorists you need to worry about, it's whether you can actually sustainably house the numbers coming in. If you have empty lots, and somebody wants to ...
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-10-02 18:35:19
I could probably get a rifle. Handguns - I mean really what on earth would I use as my reason for getting one? There's no way a handgun is useful as a hobby. If I joined a gun club or a hunting club a...
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-10-02 17:51:09
Water guns are ok XD I don't understand why anyone wouldn't be afraid of something designed to kill people. Luckily there aren't too many guns around here for me to touch.
__________________ - Posted by admin 2016-10-02 02:26:57
As a kid I lived near a police firing range. Sometimes we'd go walking quite close to there and I'd always be super, super scared whenever I heard a gun. I imagine my reaction as an adult would be eve...
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-10-01 20:53:08
Not at all. Everything is famous only within a context.
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-10-01 13:58:11
If you're from New Zealand you'd have heard of Once Were Warriors. Maybe you have but chances are good that you and/or most of your British pals haven't because it, like all things, is only famous in ...
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-10-01 13:49:23
Still don't see why it should be surprising.
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-10-01 11:35:28
He started his post by explaining that he doesn't assume naturalism.
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-30 22:17:43
National Certificate of Educational Achievement. It's what the vast majority of New Zealand uses.
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-30 21:16:51
In fact I see this as being one of the problems with the GCSE system - it prescribes set plays. In NCEA you always have a choice and can write about any play or book etc of your choosing (with the exc...
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-30 21:11:02
Well here's people from two other countries that don't. DDO clearly didn't know much about it either. Is that maybe because the countries that you've spoken to are those that primarily use the UK...
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-30 08:02:48
It's only so well known in your circles because you studied it.
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-30 04:46:06
I'm not from the American education system. I'd gladly defend that NCEA makes more sense than Cambridge.
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-30 04:45:21
Or more narrow. Like I bet you haven't read Spider by Maurice Gee. There's less of a prescribed set of texts here. The only informally prescribed ones are the really famous ones (like Shakespeare), if...
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-29 17:55:05
Over here it's more common to read books like To Kill A Mockingbird or The Great Gatsby.
Who was the Inspector? - Posted by admin 2016-09-29 07:21:48
I honestly haven't had nearly as much time for books recently as I'd have liked. This month has been just insane for me!
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-28 05:05:53
Power is relative.
Universal healthcare - Posted by admin 2016-09-25 05:08:36
Nice to see you around again. :)
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-24 21:30:51
Not many would disagree
New topics - Posted by admin 2016-09-23 06:27:00
Net = overall. So the net benefit is the benefits minus the drawbacks. Pro in that topic argues that a more globalized economy is good for indigenous cultures.
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-21 06:21:59
In all fairness, the last US president I have any respect for, except for Obama, was Jimmy Carter, and he didn't have a clue what he was doing. US has had some terrible leadership. In fairness, Reagan...
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-21 06:20:08
I disagree. Her support erodes the support of BOTH of the frontrunning candidates. Which I see as being very good because I tend to agree with Jill Stein on most things, and disagree with the frontrun...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-21 06:16:21
Jesus revived himself, some experts claim.
Pardon Edward Snowden? - Posted by admin 2016-09-21 06:15:04
In my view he shouldn't have been charged in the first place.
Debate Thread - Posted by admin 2016-09-20 19:02:19
I suspect people might use it to get to the last thread on the main page of the forums.
Universal healthcare - Posted by admin 2016-09-20 06:48:50
The irony is that unhealthy people USUALLY have lower healthcare expenses over the course of their life. Keeping people alive for longer is really, really expensive. From a strictly economic standpoin...
Universal healthcare - Posted by admin 2016-09-19 19:19:14
That doesn't follow. The incentive is health, not money. It's not much use holding on to money if you're dead. This is the problem with much American culture today - here is a prime example of pu...
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-18 01:32:01
Not really
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 12:09:24
Marginally again, Hillary. Largely because I think her policies are moderate enough to piss less people off in the world.
Universal healthcare - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 12:08:03
In general, yes, it's worth it.
New topics - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 04:42:30
Presently they don't. Question is whether they should.
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 02:18:58
Sure, that's why I trust him slightly less, in part ;)
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 02:15:23
Sure. I especially don't like politicians who change their views in response to what is popular. Clinton's one of the worst offenders.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 02:14:09
Don't really see a problem with playing forever, personally - most forum games are that way.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 01:54:47
Actually, this is the second time we've finished - we agreed earlier that we restart once we get to A.
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 01:53:55
Being unprincipled. I think maybe she at least kinda wants to help somebody other than herself more than Trump does, but you really have to squint to see it.
Your internet speed - Posted by admin 2016-09-17 01:52:35
I have cable internet, so I can ping places in the city reasonably fast. Of course if I'm talking to a server somewhere far away (like the US or Europe, where most web servers are including edeb8...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-16 17:29:24
Won't you have trouble following that post up with something starting with "x"?
Your internet speed - Posted by admin 2016-09-16 07:12:55
Differences are invariably based on the server you are talking to.
Your internet speed - Posted by admin 2016-09-16 07:11:56
I get these results: 43.57 Mbps download 2.15 Mbps upload From Speedtest 42.6 Mbps download 1.37 Mbps upload From Google
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Posted by admin 2016-09-16 07:08:39
I'd support Jill Stein ;) Between the two I'd prefer the relative security of Clinton. With Clinton you kinda know what you're getting, at least, and you can vote her out after 3 years (and pleas...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-16 07:06:54
Unfortunate, even.
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-15 08:31:57
BETTER THAN socialism, yes. Doesn't mean it's not terribly inefficient. I wouldn't support it.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-15 08:30:46
Opinions are generally trumped by facts I suppose.
Riddles - Posted by admin 2016-09-15 08:29:24
There's a supported formatting link when you draft a reply.
September 11th anniversary - Posted by admin 2016-09-15 08:28:59
So long as you didn't endorse for people to go out and commit terrorism you're probably fine. Just be careful.
New topics - Posted by admin 2016-09-15 08:27:51
Issues and secret topics are drawn from the moot bank. Basically I'm adding to http://www.edeb8.com/motions.txt
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-14 22:55:45
I may have misspoken ... can you show me what you're referring to? Pretty sure it's been a fairly consistent position of mine that capitalism allocates resources poorly, but in the short term it alloc...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-14 22:06:06
OK. By that definition capitalism is terribly inefficient. I more meant economic efficiency in the sense of "maximizing value & minimizing waste". Probably my poor choice of words then.
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-14 21:59:47
Ideally, in my view, society is free and equal... which is impossible, but maximizing those principles of freedom and equality sounds good. Efficiency is a pretty meaningless metric. The thing th...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-14 03:40:12
Didn't you figure it out from the OP?
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 19:02:23
Already did Y before you :P
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 18:57:07
You missed that there's a page 2 to this thread, I guess?
Nazi-Soviet Pact - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 18:47:55
Probably delayed slightly. Hitler's main reason for invading Poland was that he thought he could get away with it.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 18:46:40
Xenon is the first one that comes to mind - on second thought, X is kinda boring too.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 18:19:34
Very good question indeed - how about something starting with the letter "X"?
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 16:04:00
Time we changed the topic, I think - this conversation's getting stale.
New topics - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 14:58:57
Several of those are on the list already but thanks! :D
New topics - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 06:30:53
I almost feel like reversing half of these XD. Think homosexuals having preferential adoption rights or something was a topic at a tournament recently, really liked it. Good suggestions :)
New topics - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 05:43:06
The topic list is going to be updated again soon. Anyone have some suggestions? :)
Voting/Debate Challenge Thread - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 05:41:00
Thanks for a fun debate! :D #membermonday
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-12 05:39:30
On the contrary, I quite liked the clarification
September 11th anniversary - Posted by admin 2016-09-10 16:29:49
A bit, yes. Mostly a thing making support of terrorist groups a crime. Not much else.
September 11th anniversary - Posted by admin 2016-09-10 13:19:56
Just figured there should be a thread for it :) Being 15 years on and all.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-10 02:54:13
Keeping it to only 26 seems like it would only be short, come to think of it - we should go back to A afterwards.
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-09 07:19:38
Hope we can keep this going all the way to Z...
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-09 01:22:19
Feeling really great with all this positive feedback :D
A-Z game - Posted by admin 2016-09-08 12:47:06
Amazing idea for a game, eh? Each post must start with the NEXT letter of the alphabet! :D
Jury Nullification - Posted by admin 2016-09-08 00:01:44
No, you've obviously never studied law or been on a jury. Before they return a verdict juries are given INSTRUCTIONS by the judge. Legally they have to follow these instructions. In the inst...
The Trolley Problem - Posted by admin 2016-09-07 00:32:17
I'm not sure that such a calculus is entirely ethical. Maybe by not posting this post I prevent a death - you don't know moral outcomes. Would it be any different if that one person was your love...
Jury Nullification - Posted by admin 2016-09-07 00:25:58
Because juries don't apply the law to the case. That's not their job.
Jury Nullification - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 15:16:10
Because juries do not interpret law. At no point during legal trials do juries ever consider the law, EXCEPT in deciding whether to use jury nullification. It makes no sense. And there's no system of ...
Riddles - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 13:49:40
Also do this to protect your answers :P
Riddles - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 13:41:46
What's your favorite riddle? Post suggested answers, too! :D
The Trolley Problem - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 13:39:29
Debate classic for philosophy Wednesday. :) Say you have a trolley on a track to kill 10 people, but you can redirect it in a way that causes it to kill only one. Would you redirect it? Main...
Online debating schools of thought - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 13:34:19
I see debating online as being not so much of a philosophical distinction but rather a technological shift that necessitated innovation. Early debate websites were more of a forum structure. The ...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 05:32:33
If you aren't then just say so. I don't think the label is helpful. Profit being the goal is what makes capitalism successful as an economic system. That kinda depends on your definition of ...
Jury Nullification - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 05:16:12
Personally I oppose it. Judges are there specifically to interpret law. Ordinary citizens are supposed to be qualified to interpret facts. Expecting them to interpret law kinda makes you question what...
DDO - Posted by admin 2016-09-06 05:15:57
It also depends on who you value. I mean, vBates used to have a very strong audience when they launched because they were literally the platform for a sort of European shadow World Schools tournament...
DDO - Posted by admin 2016-09-05 19:56:28
Not exactly. There's a lot of stuff behind it. Basically the mods and I have a personal issue, nothing site-rule related. Was just a very public and ugly spat.
Shoutouts of the week - Posted by admin 2016-09-05 01:19:01
Put two at symbols before and after the name. I call it double at tagging.
Suggestion - Posted by admin 2016-09-05 01:09:19
Why not put it on the feature request tracker?
Shoutouts of the week - Posted by admin 2016-09-04 17:44:53
Monday's semi-regular feature is back! I'd like to thank a few people: @Famousdebater and Black Flag for cool forum discussions Also, to @cooldudebro for tournament stuff And every...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-04 05:07:34
Sorry - I mean, all REVENUE is normal.
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-04 05:05:53
So are you assuming I believe everything that other social liberals or social democrats believe? In general I tend to argue with people everywhere. For what it's worth, I don't believe in private...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-04 03:35:03
I don't know that there has to be that dichotomy. An economy can take on elements of capitalism and elements from outside it. To define an economy by the framework of an idea limits you in a policy se...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-03 22:25:36
But you accept the capitalist framework. Not entirely. Are you saying if I make a bad decision and lose my job and become homeless, that is violation of freedom? Yes. You have lost freedom,...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-03 20:57:41
As I said I'm not an absolute capitalist. The control in capitalism is exactly that power system, and it violates freedom to determine one's own whole standing with good or bad decisions. So we need t...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-03 05:42:26
I'm not a capitalist in any sort of absolute sense. My own idea of a free market rests heavily on the assurance of negative freedoms, that is, freedom from the consequences of the decisions of others....
Best place? - Posted by admin 2016-09-03 05:03:08
I'm good right where I am :D
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-03 02:58:47
To some extent. For example, I believe that hierarchy is inherent in good decision making. If somebody chooses to smoke, knowing the risks, and gets lung cancer, that's on them, at least as far a...
Left-Right spectrum - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 22:22:28
Much more left than right. Though few people are absolutely either, of course.
Hong Kong election - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 22:21:15
Starry Lee, no doubt. Anti-China sentiment is strong but she's got enough sway to keep a majority. Still it's crucial for the independence movement to secure some kind of a mandate.
Hong Kong election - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 21:51:51
...is tomorrow. Just wanted to point that out. Anyone remember the 2014 protests there?
Public transport - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 21:48:05
Is it a good thing? Do you use it? What's it like where you are and how could it be improved, if at all?
What's your "spirit animal"? - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 21:43:42
Now that's more like it!
What's your "spirit animal"? - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 04:06:08
That doesn't excuse lacking a cool picture.
What's your "spirit animal"? - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 00:57:14
Cool picture?
New Stuff - Posted by admin 2016-09-02 00:52:11
Is it possible for you to make tagging work in the shoutbox? The problem I've run into is this: what happens if you get a notification that you were at tagged in a shoutbox, but then you get to the ...
Missile Defense concept - Posted by admin 2016-09-01 19:23:54
Even that's a LOT when you're talking about a country with many thousands of miles squared. And the sensors and everything, I think missiles would definitely work out cheaper in 95% of cases.
Missile Defense concept - Posted by admin 2016-09-01 17:15:29
Wouldn't you need anti-missile guns virtually everywhere a missile could possibly land though? I was under the impression missile defense usually used missiles because they have better range.
What's your "spirit animal"? - Posted by admin 2016-09-01 13:38:05
Doing a thing for my Saturday science theme. If you were a non-human animal, what would you be? What animal do you most identify with? Tell us why and post a cool picture of your chosen anim...
Should we let species die? - Posted by admin 2016-09-01 13:36:24
Bringing back my themed weekdays. Happy Saturday Science. Today's topic: last week we talked about protecting the environment with national parks. What about protecting other forms of biodiversit...
New Stuff - Posted by admin 2016-09-01 13:08:33
Just some minor things today, but hopefully you all like them :D Notable fixes include: - Shoutboxes now embed Youtube video and make links clickable - Tournaments now have round-by-round odd...
Missile Defense concept - Posted by admin 2016-09-01 07:27:04
How is this different from other missile defense systems?
DDO - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 12:03:39
I'm guessing my history with DDO is pretty well known already.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 06:14:56
I mean, does this look like propaganda to you, or a legitimate warning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd1qR66gcLQ There's more propagandist elements in this than Triumph of the Will. It ev...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 06:08:17
Sure. Heck, I'm skeptical of their whole nuclear program. They won't successfully test a long range nuclear missile anytime soon.
Nationalism vs Regionalism - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 06:06:49
Just generally the way I've heard it used around debate societies and such. It's certainly a less specific word than nationalism.
Nationalism vs Regionalism - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 02:39:17
I think a more general definition in IR would hold that regionalism usually refers to blocs. For example supporting the TPP would be regionalism above nationalism.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 02:37:24
The threats are there so they can give their people the impression that they CAN destroy America if they continue to work together. It's like the common goal isn't global domination, it's overthrowing...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 02:04:38
They want to continue with their current form of government, doing what they please internally, while also trading normally with the rest of the world.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-31 00:44:01
Or maybe because they don't actually want to attack places. They just want to appear big and important. The embargo is really hurting the north korean people and they'd really say anything to restore ...
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-30 03:05:48
Well it's up to you, I can see certain themes are certainly becoming repetitive ie micro vs macro level (you bringing up cells again), or starting point of potentiality being arbitrarily defined among...
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-30 02:30:55
I think that only proves that the potential of life is irrelevant, since we are alive in spite of being able to die at any moment. Hypothetically if we were immortal, we would still be alive. Yea...
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-30 01:06:53
Not really sure about that acorn example. If an acorn is still connected to a tree, I'd consider it part of the tree. Ultimately it's a semantic difference. As I said, and @famousdebater would ba...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 16:50:51
Ban notices include my email address. Anyone can reach me using admin at edeb8 dt com anyway.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 16:18:21
Our usual rule is that bans happen until the person involved apologizes to me and to the rest of the site, and there is no sustained objection to it at that time.
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 03:52:05
In a biological sense, no, they wouldn't. Rather they'd be the data that was once stored inside a person's mind. There's this misconception that such data can think on it's own in some virtual world -...
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 03:35:26
If you divide life into phases, the point where you are starting the first so-called phase is just as arbitrary. You might as well say falling in love is the first phase of life and thus construct a b...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 03:19:06
Don't really know why people bother.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 03:17:07
Alright, sure. That's a second TOU violation on two levels - participation in a healthy community and trolling. Enjoy your last few moments on the site.
Polls - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 03:14:52
Sure there is. That's why you go on threads all over the site telling people that it sucks. Not the behavior of somebody who's come to terms with it.
One thing I hate about debating is... - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 03:13:42
Sure, after you made many factual claims and didn't source them. Yet just earlier on when somebody asked you for a source for a factual claim, you straight away went on this thread and called it ...
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 02:30:22
"You" being a single cell is almost assuming "you" are already alive at that point. It's true that not every cell is an embryo, but that doesn't indicate that life begins when you ...
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 02:21:25
"Common sense" isn't an argument in the first place. You can't make a counter-argument to a nonexistent argument.
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 02:19:06
So would you say "you" are several billion lives, or just one? The human body is designed to recycle cells... killing a cell is not a crime, or else we'd all be in prison.
Views on Abortion - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 02:16:51
Personally I think my views are well-known. Abortion should not be banned. The fetus becomes living when it is born. I believe this because that's when most of the usual bodily functions tha...
One thing I hate about debating is... - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 02:03:41
Sort of ironic, then, that you did exactly this on the North Korea thread just yesterday... you made an argument, I made a counter-argument, and all you could say was "prove it" ;)
Polls - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 02:01:12
You know that's not true. I've done more than you or anyone else has ever been willing to do. You're just saying that because you think you're entitled to make the site be whatever you personally want...
Polls - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 01:58:49
Very, since we already have polls in groups. However, it would probably not be congruent with the overall aims of the site, since we are more of a formal debate club than an informal opinion vent...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 01:56:41
On the one hand this is so ridiculous I want to think it's a joke. On the other hand, if this happened to anyone else I'd have already banned you. I'll think about it.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-29 01:21:39
And you don't think ostracizing somebody is bullying? Seesh, even most schoolchildren have more class than that.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-28 23:21:11
No, it's not
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-28 03:26:42
Well, I've said it before - weapons aren't defense. If nations have any defense forces against foreign attack, they should be hospitals etc. Not instruments of war. Notwithstanding that, N Korea ...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 23:47:40
No because I don't believe in striking. Big fan of being nice to people, even enemies. It's just that it's so much stupider to strike when your justification for striking doesn't add up.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 15:43:09
No, larger blasts just mean they've stockpiled more material / saved it up for longer. Or that they've masked their results more. The NPA has limited their scientific understanding significantly ...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 15:10:09
No they're not. You're asking them to cover for the fact that you didn't expect me to have researched this previously. It grew to 2004, scaled back around 05-12, and the last few years has grown ...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 14:38:52
Speculation means nothing, and none of what you just said was sourced either. Here is a brief primer on their claimed tests: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-17823706 Note none of the tests i...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 14:05:02
Great. Map proves it would take out about 5ish blocks, where considerably less than that number of people live. Now prove they have a 10kt bomb.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 13:45:45
Sure you did. You cited that N Korea has nuclear weapons that can level entire cities and kill tens of millions, among others. I didn't prompt those claims.
California Water Crisis - Let them dessicate! - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 13:42:58
I've believed in all three of those for years, but you misunderstood me. I prefer welfare to tax breaks, but my point was that neither should be given to people because they have kids. I've always bel...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 13:38:03
I also think there's a worrying trend of expecting people to prove negatives on this site. If you claim North Korea has dinosaurs, I shouldn't have to find a source saying they don't.
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 13:35:47
You source your outrageous claims first. Please source non-propaganda sources. If you bring a claim and I don't demand a source for a counterclaim, it's really unethical for you to expect me to source...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 12:52:41
Nor does N Korea. Nowhere close. Heck, all nuclear weapons ever detonated combined haven't killed anywhere close to that many. I've looked it up extensively - they've only done 4 tests, 2 of whic...
California Water Crisis - Let them dessicate! - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 12:46:52
Nor do I long-term. Immediately you could do stuff like ensuring clean water is routed first to homeless shelters and such... the point is, control of the water supply is a class issue. So the economi...
California Water Crisis - Let them dessicate! - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 12:01:22
For example, assistance with moving to Michigan if it's so great over there ;)
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 11:59:14
I think such possibility need to be fairly non-remote. N Korea is no more a threat to global peace right now than Fiji. The ones they've likely detonated, at least semi-successfully, could probab...
California Water Crisis - Let them dessicate! - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 11:54:14
Generally I agree. Reminds me of when Saudi tried to drag a chunk of Antarctica over to their country. The only thing I'd add is that the federal government should move to protect the poor in such are...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 11:09:32
Telling me to turn it in while trying to tell you that a war is not necessary sure is ironic. Sure, the North Korean weapons and army COULD BE threats. North Korea, however, is definitely not. ...
North Korea Strike - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 06:16:33
Is it time we should strike North Korea to destroy their long-range missiles and nuclear weapons? No Are they a serious threat? Definitely not
National Parks - Posted by admin 2016-08-27 05:53:53
Also, are national parks a good idea? Awesome idea, protecting precious bits of land for future generations. Should they be government run? Yip If you had a large amount of land availab...
National Parks - Posted by admin 2016-08-26 14:20:10
In honor of National Parks in the US celebrating their 100th birthday a couple of days ago... What are national parks or other conservation lands like in your area? Feel free to share some pictur...
One thing I hate about debating is... - Posted by admin 2016-08-26 14:15:34
Share your biggest debating pet peeves here! Also, remember to give others you agree with a thumbs up. :D
Live chat debates - Posted by admin 2016-08-26 14:13:39
You're on a roll with good ideas today :)
Live chat debates - Posted by admin 2016-08-26 12:50:00
Very true.
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-25 22:52:55
But I'm not positively discriminating. I hold one moral position to the exclusion of others. ANY belief a person holds is a form of discrimination, including the disbelief in positive discrimination. ...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-25 12:03:27
So.... discrimination? Not sure why this should be bad as a moral principle. In fact it's self refuting since you're discriminating against discrimination. Do you support that? No, I think l...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-25 02:13:08
Provide the basis and the historical origin next time you reply. You might have to wait until tomorrow.
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-25 02:02:46
So do you acknowledge that controlling liberty is harming people's happiness at least temporarily? It can do. People have subjective standards for happiness. Likewise not controlling happiness harms...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-25 01:31:45
Now you only believe physical harm is wrong? No Do you deny that liberty and happiness are needed for a happy life? Sure. Lack of liberty to murder is going to make some people unhappy, and...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-25 01:28:36
I don't really accept the premise.
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-24 19:33:17
They don't harm life, they harm liberty, and might harm happiness. That's not to say that the person is harmed overall. Restorative justice can work. I defined it in the previous sentence.
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-24 19:19:53
I agree that harming somebody is always wrong. People twist the meaning of violence until just about everything qualifies as violence to prove a point though. I can't breathe anymore without somebody ...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-24 19:00:50
When you stop somebody from hurting themselves, that's probably the classic counterexample.
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-24 18:56:48
People can do what they like, unless there is a moral reason etc not to do something.
Sharing thing - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 12:05:26
I'm currently trialing just using the ShareThis plugin for the social buttons on all debates. Old style sharing buttons are at the top still of the forums and everything else. I realize 99% of pe...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 06:34:44
Sure but if you look at the word violence more carefully, you'll realize it's usually not defined as broadly as any force. Usually you actually have to physically HARM somebody for it to count as viol...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 04:55:51
Violence can be justified, in my view, if it is non-destructive. If violence is used to harm somebody, or to harm society, then it's not justified as a moral principle. Notwithstanding that, violence ...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 04:48:46
Well, if a train conductor uses physical force to stop somebody walking off a moving train, that would be justified too.
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 04:29:07
Depends what you count as violence. For example I believe prisons should exist.
Live chat debates - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 02:24:07
I think it's safe to say every major renown debate union disagrees with you that debate is just a discussion of opposing viewpoints. Debating can be elitist like that when it's competitive.
Live chat debates - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 01:12:29
Roughly $15ish a month
Live chat debates - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 00:11:39
It's possible, but judging / recording them isn't unfortunately. The trouble is paying for a server to do the recording.
Live chat debates - Posted by admin 2016-08-23 00:10:53
It's kinda outside our niche since it's not very formal.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 23:55:28
do you you believe that will lead to the end goal of equality? I don't believe that affirmative action works Not sure what they has to do with anything. The impact our decisions have on oth...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 23:38:27
The end goal of mainstream feminism is female entitlement. Not in my view. How much of it do you think constitutes discrimination. Depends on the context. not the latest wave Third wa...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 16:39:51
Mainstream feminists disrespect the ideals of their predecessors by advocating affirmative action and instigating outcry against honesty. I support the same goals even though I may occasionally dis...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 16:20:49
It was the moment you said you were aligned with modern feminism. Either way, same problem. In what ways are women being discriminated? Some places in the world it's more transparent than o...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 16:03:31
Oh really? Because the moment I mentioned I'm a feminist you were pretty dismissive of me. My goals for political policy etc are at best only informed by my feminist affiliation. I also oppose ag...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 15:50:16
Sure, I stated that goal a few posts ago. Feminism is the belief that genders should be substantively equal, especially as pertains to society and the law.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 15:43:44
Goals are the most important ideas of all. They might not have immediate consequence but they reveal not only moral character, but often, long-term direction as well.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 15:31:57
I have my own ideas of how to get there. For example ending the stigmatization of the idea of feminism, like you dismissing my ideas as SJW or whatever. Hiding opposition to feminism behind ad homs is...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 15:18:13
Those are the goals. A goal is not a method. Goals are ends, like feminism is an end. Being a feminist doesn't mean you support any particular policy.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 15:09:59
Improving gender social equality, wherever inequality exists.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 14:56:53
Me being a feminist includes my belief that it's great that they do. I'm just pointing out that being a feminist is not inconsistent with opposing affirmative action.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 12:36:04
Doesn't need to be race or gender based, to break down race or gender based obstacles. For example, I don't consider something like paid maternal leave to be affirmative action, since even though it i...
Militantism vs Pacifism - Posted by admin 2016-08-21 11:55:24
Still doesn't mean it isn't worth posing questions from time to time :)
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 05:25:35
create opportunities for them, for one. How those look might depend on the specific obstacle.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 05:22:13
I don't agree with most other so-called "classical liberals" about the means but agree about a free & equal end. Liberalism in the classical sense is just the pursuit of freedom and equa...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 05:21:11
Obviously your views are not in line with mainstream feminism. Sure but my goals are, and that's what feminism is. Goals. You don't see a dumbed down society as a problem? Not necessarily if...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 04:35:23
The question is not whether you support feminism. The question is whether you support mainstream feminists . I don't support everything that mainstream feminists say. I support mainstream feminism. ...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 04:06:58
If you are to agree with mainstream feminists (not general feminism) , then you would be in agreement with the policies they advocate for. How does this logically follow? If I want to agree with a m...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 03:54:33
The means are just as important as the ends. So you think that because I agree with an end I need to agree with every means that most people agree would achieve that end? That's absurd. Like fo...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 03:07:23
At the moment, females have more leverage in society. In some marginal specific ways, yes. If you do not believe in affirmative action, then you should not support mainstream feminists. Femi...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 03:01:36
I'd define it as the active belief that more needs to be done to empower those of marginalized genders.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 02:23:22
Right, because males aren't entitled? I don't support affirmative action but I certainly believe that sentiments like what you've just said prove that feminism is still required. Just like men...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-17 02:14:20
Because I think it's important that gender doesn't restrict people on the feminism side of things. And because I don't see any problems.
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-16 22:05:41
Yip.
Edit option - Posted by admin 2016-08-16 05:01:25
The edeb8 forum is very simple. Even things like categories are very much hacked together because of how simple it is. Since I wrote it I didn't put in the code for either editing or viewing a history...
Edit option - Posted by admin 2016-08-16 04:53:15
Primarily, yes.
Edit option - Posted by admin 2016-08-16 04:46:51
Because I can't afford to have porn on here for 5 minutes. I can't be on here every 5 minutes either. Even coming on every day is tough sometimes.
Edit option - Posted by admin 2016-08-16 04:21:34
Depends on the software. I'm wary of the space required to implement an edit history, and it's kinda of limited value since it's just as quick to post a correction usually. Of course there's the ...
Feminism and LGBT rights - Posted by admin 2016-08-16 04:16:41
All sound good to me.
Edit option - Posted by admin 2016-08-16 04:13:42
The problem with this is tracking a history for each post for moderation purposes.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 23:20:36
That too but that's already pretty well-known.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 23:20:10
Sure because not every reply will be relevant. I don't want to argue about my opinions in this thread, I want to explain which of my opinions shock people as was the intention. If you want to argue st...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 10:20:13
I was replying to a post where you said you can't stand something.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 10:19:43
Yeah, no. Biopics about the life of Shakespeare do not emulate the greatness of Shakespeare. Porn only marginally simulates sex, and certainly doesn't emulate it.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 10:16:03
Personally you can't stand it. I think more Americans agree with you than those of any other nation.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 10:07:07
It's like saying period drama films are the same as real history.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 08:33:02
I feel that a few hundred years ago, relative to other countries that existed at that time, the US was better. US today hasn't improved a lot, forwards in some ways, backwards in others, while the res...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 07:49:52
The culturally reflected average American. I don't have census data on what every American believes but I can make an estimation based on what I see. Just a moment ago, we heard the defensiveness...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 03:59:08
Pornography emulates real life sex. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha... oh wait you're serious...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 03:57:24
So it's bad because there's rape, violence, and media censorship. Yip, I hear a lot more about those things out of the US than I do out of Eritrea. At the very least Eritreans realize their cou...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 03:51:13
It wasn't free, but we have it for free. That's the main issue I have with it, yes. It assumes a mode of production that's really not been relevant since the 18th century.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 03:50:15
My previous reply explained why. As for how, that's not relevant to the OP.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 00:42:42
I explained that in the shoutbox last night but apparently you weren't interested in hearing it. Basically because we're all the same. Only in caring for each other can we care for ourselves. The most...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 00:41:09
Well that's the thing. These are cultural beliefs on the basis of a position of cultural ignorance, since I am not American, have never been there, and don't really know what it's like. But personally...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 00:37:42
I'm not trying to convince you. I'm trying to explain my own position as is relevant to the OP.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-14 00:33:03
I believe that cooperation should be a right that all people guarantee. If somebody's suffering, everyone helps them out.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 23:40:37
Sure if you count corporates tossing off money to each other, absolutely. A lot of US billionaires have nothing better to do.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 23:39:18
It's an opinion, not an absolute truth. Something like culture is hard to prove. I observe it in the news I hear, the people I meet, and the things I witness. A few examples: America is one of th...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 23:18:06
Somebody teaches them without them earning it. When parents teach children to talk, they're not usually making a financial transaction, but they are making a huge economic one.
A lot of you are unimportant - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:56:49
Me.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:56:27
Lot of other superpowers I'd gladly prefer.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:54:16
Yet people get most of what they have for free. Language, maths, social skills etc ... you didn't invent those things or work for them. They were handed down by past generations. And that's a good thi...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:42:31
Working for work's sake is not a value. Working for profit is. Try rolling a rock up a hill endlessly - the point of work is achievement / accomplishment.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:40:43
No, they were not done by one person. Read 1700s newspapers.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:39:59
Mine doesn't but Michigan certainly profited, true. I used to live in an area called Karaka which bred horses. And that's an example of a place that went downhill at the same time. Econometr...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:29:22
Actually not true. Horses needed more labor, between shoeing, grooming, stabling, veterinarians, breeding, cleaning the streets of horse poo etc etc. With Ford's assembly line, cars were mass produced...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:25:24
I don't like the culture. It hates on the poor, the weak and marginalized. Drugs are normal. People put profit before lives. They seek to kill those they don't like. Violence is everywhere, matched on...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 22:11:43
At some point it is inefficient for even us to perform that maintenance. People said the same about horses before they were usurped by cars. As the horse was replaced and people found lazier forms of ...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:38:45
I'm not saying you are. To quote a certain bully, "oh great king of strawman". That doesn't invalidate her experience. So far as her points can be inverted they make total sense.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:29:21
Because she's expressing herself from a female POV. If you say the same but invert the genders, it sounds right to me. Therefore I don't see how it can be denied from a female POV either.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:27:28
Human work ethic loses value as more efficient modes of production come along. Over time the economy becomes more and more knowledge-based, because humans are inefficient physically. And in the long t...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:23:00
I'd last less time in the US
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:20:33
Ok but so does she. None of these statements are inherently wrong: Straight females don't know what straight males find satisfying Women should be 100% supportive of fathers they're in relationshi...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:13:54
You know, you could probably swap around men and women in her post and it would still make a lot of sense. Taking a standard one way does not mean it could not be inverted.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:11:54
Absolutely. I don't think robots is how it would look, but if so, let's work towards that! It's probably even more shocking over here. Personally I disagree with you there, it's not the...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 21:06:17
Labor becomes less necessary for survival as technology improves, also. Many professions once vital for survival are now gone. With charity, the fat cats don't have to pay. So of course they supp...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 14:40:10
Question is when it will be spent and when the value of that spending is realized. In the short run money can get stuck in investments. To the point that feds lower the OCR and that's how bubbles happ...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 14:18:20
And those so-called unproductive people - who in fact society owes a great deal to since most of the value held by society was not created by that society - they just hoard up their money? That would ...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 13:58:57
Freeing up land doesn't diversify the economy. Those people "forced to compete" when they moved off farms, were actually largely treated as slaves during the industrial revolution. Many died...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 13:39:19
That land has largely gone into having more fields. We have a booming population yet more than enough food to sustain everyone. Personally I find that insanely cool esp. since so many of us eat insane...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 13:16:48
So let's take the farming industry since it was brought up earlier. Has farm tech increased or decreased jobs available? Exactly. Their work would be shit. And not productive. It would be pointle...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 12:19:03
Well pick a side. Whether proportionate or not, technology means that less work is available over time. Generalizations can be hate speech even if they're honest, which BTW yours aren't. Calling ...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 11:59:48
Then technology creates unemployment if it's disproportionate. Sure you hate them, that's why you use hateful language. I don't think you even realize that the words you use can have that effect....
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 11:42:03
I wonder if you'd impose the same standards on people raised by single fathers, then. Some of my best friends as a kid were orphans and they turned out just fine.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 11:25:32
You did, when you said jobs are displaced into new industries. You know I condemn any use of drugs, but that's no excuse to hate on somebody, much less stereotype a group. Structural unemplo...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 11:00:53
Job displacement is not always a 1-1 correlation. You can verify that too. It's more than you think and it's getting worse. NZT estimates put structural unemployment at 3%, and the best economic ...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 01:36:28
Well I'll say a few of mine. Here's a rough top 10. 1. I think the USA is the worst country in the world overall 2. I oppose war in every circumstance 3. I love science and totally agree with...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 01:27:30
"Better" is relative. For the downtrodden unemployed, states are better. For greedy fat cats, charity is better.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-13 01:26:16
Technology always reduces the pool of jobs while often increasing the number of people. Over time that collapses employment structures. I am. I want everyone to live nice lives even if they can't...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-12 11:20:03
You do seem to like nothing more than judging people, especially me.
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-12 05:17:56
And without receiving they die. Assume that there are always less jobs than people. Now clearly some people will die. Therefore the assumption must be there are more jobs than people ie full emplo...
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-12 05:05:45
So that assumes that full employment always happens without a central state, or that some people are just unlucky / screwed. Doesn't sound that good to me.
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-12 02:33:23
No. I was raised by a single mom and while certainly there was some pushback, it wasn't like she was blamed for literally every social and economic problem in the world. Usually it was just vague refe...
Opinions that shock people - Posted by admin 2016-08-12 01:58:16
That single moms aren't the cause of most of America's economic and social turmoil. Uhm ... who does this shock?
Communism - Posted by admin 2016-08-12 01:57:09
I disagree on your point regarding money and goods. Communities can manage those things between themselves. I don't know that such a society could survive without courts but before you even get to tha...
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-11 01:23:37
If you don't have a reason for why something's moral then it follows you don't have a system for what makes something moral.
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-11 00:27:49
I do. I think morality in general, and moral systems in particular, can't be reduced to a cost-benefit analysis. Different people have different expectations of morally significant decisions based on ...
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-11 00:18:09
There's an assumption there that motivation is inherently intrinsic and personal.
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:52:18
Which is interesting because you're expecting something for me that you won't offer yourself. Also I'm not debating you, I'm having a forum discussion. My only reason is that it's seems like a go...
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:43:31
Some people never learn to avoid personal attacks in a way that's clearly targeting a specific individual...
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:42:54
You can expect me to say the same thing. I didn't have a personal reason. That I need one is your assumption.
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:33:39
Maybe that I asked you to answer for your own standard about a dozen posts ago and got no reply, and have been badgering you about it since. For what it's worth you only asked two questions. Answ...
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:25:07
Like you're any different, right?
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:20:14
Oh yeah. That can be morally valid. Virtually anything works as a moral system. It's moral actions I may have trouble with.
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:10:59
Not utility, because I don't judge moral outcomes by utility. I don't have a reason beyond my moral beliefs. Moral systems like utilitarianism or my own views are themselves the justification, no...
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 20:04:58
You're taking utilitarianism without reason, too. All morality relates to what you think is best for the future. This is what I think is the best course of action, not for me, but for the future ...
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 19:56:16
That I believe helping people is morally good. Even if I get nothing out of it. It's just my personal morals. Because I believe in doing what's right even if it doesn't always make me happy.
Metaethical Positions - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 19:32:29
Sometimes I, for one, like helping people although I'm getting nothing in return.
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 19:28:58
More than that, it's independent because it's common, as opposed to subjective which relates only to one subject. But I understand why we have a disagreement regardless.
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 05:27:51
My understanding of objective morality is that it means all people have exactly the same moral beliefs. It sounds like your understanding is just that other moral beliefs are wrong. I'm sorr...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 04:15:54
Then those cultures and religions have different moral values. It sounds like you really believe that SOME morality is objective and SOME is not.
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 03:28:21
And why may they have different values?
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 03:22:36
States are made up of humans, and are ultimately always controlled by some human(s) somewhere, right? So why is it not natural for states?
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 03:11:51
You have no idea how close I just came to clicking this little button here to ban you. Trust me, it's tempting. Not because you disagree with me, but because of how you resort to personal attacks...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 03:10:34
Objective morality doesn't mean "applies" to all humans. It means all humans believe it.
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-10 02:51:23
Then how can morality change the moment you talk about it in the context of states?
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-09 22:05:45
It's like I'm arguing against those vegetarians who say that humans are immoral because we use force on animals... and they use force on plants... at some point it's just about what you use the force ...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-09 09:58:40
Well, you can say my definitions are wrong, but not that they're inconsistent. I said virtually the exact same stuff on page one of this thread and you accused me of the same thing. If people are...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-09 05:56:11
Definition is a limitation, description is adding detail. Not all states are equally cooperative. All states equally meet the definition of a state. Theoretical people can't control anything. Try...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-09 04:29:47
Well it certainly doesn't define a state, but it does describe it. In a state, people co-operate. For a basic example, legislature makes laws, judiciary interprets law, and executive enforces law. Wit...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-09 03:37:01
That's nice because it's also how it's done WITH a state. You don't start or stop cooperating with or without one. States just allow you to mobilize greater populations under shared rules. Even if it'...
Site update - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 21:54:58
Mostly just minor things today guys: 1. The permissive judging standard (which is what we had before the community one) is back to being the default 2. Some fixes to forums - notably, posting s...
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 21:30:15
One more time to be sure... wow this thread is great for bugtracking. XD
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 21:29:47
And again
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 21:26:20
And now something else :)
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 21:23:39
Just testing something out
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 21:20:52
Nah, I do
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 04:51:21
You're kinda missing my point about cooperation. If morality were objective, everyone would either obey or disobey the law. I mean all those (political, economic, social). With specific rega...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 02:44:10
In the context of massive infrastructure projects, when you talk about management of such projects, you'll find you have a hard time justifying that from the RBV. Community gardens, sure, those can wo...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-08 02:11:15
At a certain point, large scale cooperation requires consistent rules and management. That's called governance. A government is formed when a society works together to achieve various ends. If th...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 06:51:36
As an aside, in my ideal world, criminals should have the right to vote.
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 06:51:07
If you want a more detailed series of arguments from me, a forum isn't where you'll get them. This site has a perfectly good debate feature. I did not answer what deterred crime either. I answere...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 06:26:47
Several of them are basically the same question. These I'm answering thematically as I tend to do. Keeps our posts shorter. Ideally, they help determine what is a crime. It's a system for al...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 05:48:11
Those in the highest office, or associated with the highest office, are above the rule of law. To that I'd simply say that I'd oppose a state where this is true.
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 05:44:13
You're talking about states as if they're all the same. They're not. I can only answer for how I ideally would want a state organized, not in any absolutes. Most nations use the english system of...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 05:20:53
Sure, that's why I said wider infrastructure. You could certainly build a dirt road in your backyard with no state, but much stuff requires a broader organizing body. States don't stop murder but...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 04:58:49
Oh right I forgot you changed your name. @Crow
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 04:57:05
You need states to support wider infrastructure and the rule of law. Failing states, churches usually assume the role of a state, or other social institutions. Positive freedom in the sense of na...
The State - Posted by admin 2016-08-07 03:44:26
1. I'd say it's a body of persons and institution who collectively govern a geographic area 2. Its definition 3. In the long run, yes 4. Moral 5. To help ensure freedom & equality for all
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-08-06 06:01:54
Yes.
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-08-05 20:51:58
Mandatory explanations already exists as an option btw
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-08-05 19:35:07
Yes. Not only did the site support it, they proposed it in the first place and pushed for it. I called for feedback on it and at the time everybody just said they wanted it. I then wrote a standard, a...
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-08-05 19:27:26
Community support. It would probably be a change to an open standard default first.
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 06:03:10
Feel free to call it what you want. It's a sustained pattern of ad hom attacks, which is against the rules. And all this arguing about it isn't helping you one bit.
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 05:56:52
No, you get over yourself. I've told you before, I won't tolerate this kind of thing. It's not constructive dialog so it doesn't belong here. You have absolutely no right to tell me otherwise.
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 05:51:11
You know, I hate to do this but ... here's an official warning for bullying. You have a real problem with not knowing when to stop a personal attack. It's your second warning in as many days. Not cool...
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 05:35:40
But not all statism is liberalism. Liberalism is an end, statism is a means. You haven't answered the end at all, and your more practical attack is unsubstantiated. What am I to say? I may sugges...
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 05:15:45
Which is annoying BTW, because it feels like it's impossible to have a principle discussion on the merits of policy with you, since you always bring it back to you questioning the sense in having any ...
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 05:12:52
Taxes / welfare / regulations are not always bad. Question is what they do. At some point you're scapegoating liberalism when really you just want to rant about states again. You've tied none of this...
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 04:38:10
Businesses are not being destroyed by liberalism. If they are being destroyed by government it is not because of liberal policy. Monopolies exist because of barriers to entry. I refer you again t...
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 04:02:10
That claim cannot logically exist without examining a company's total financial burden. If you claim the burden of the government is too much - let alone that it's because of liberal policy - then you...
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 03:26:56
Sure it discriminates, and that's not a bad thing. We give charity to the poor and not the rich for the same reason. It's not really a radical belief that people ought to contribute according to their...
Edeb8's The Novice - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 02:53:23
Who are the 3 judges this time around :P
Liberal attack on the capitalist spirit - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 02:52:23
So there's a few responses I have. Obviously I could talk about how things such as progressive taxation - a very liberal policy - solve for these harms, but your attack isn't a practical one as I read...
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-02 01:16:05
Merriam Webster is providing an alternate definition here, as would be used in contexts like "heavy industry" or "industrial revolution". Investopedia is more or less saying t...
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 08:30:46
As I said originally, industry = all economic activity in one market.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 08:25:31
I've had more than enough of an economics education to know that this is correct. If you produce something, even alone, even if not for sale, that is economic activity. It counts towards GDP as all ot...
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 07:52:14
Yes they are. They are exchanging factors of production for production. Goods and not services is problematic.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 07:46:14
Anyone who thinks economics is about money clearly hasn't studied barter economies, among numerous others. Economics is about exchange, and money is just a medium of exchange.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 07:41:46
Sole traders, services, charities etc are also parts of industries. I understand industry to mean economic activity in a particular market. Regardless of money, goods etc involved.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 07:34:32
Sure, some people grow their own tobacco and roll their own cigarettes too. Industry should not be taken to imply anything singular.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 07:02:24
Both could be true. Industries generally profit off people wasting time. If that's destructive in some fashion (ie smoking) it's not like the industry cares.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-08-01 05:43:46
There's not a lot for me to add, since I don't really know or care about the subject. It's a way for some people to waste time AFAIK.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 17:51:06
Any supporting logic or evidence you want to add to this?
Weekly member shoutouts - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 17:48:02
I'd like to start by thanking everyone involved in this year's WODC. Looking forward to seeing some fun debates :D
Weekly member shoutouts - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 17:47:26
It's member monday! Give thanks or shoutouts in this thread! :)
Platonist Tournament of Philosophy Advertisement - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 17:44:32
This tournament has started now.
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 17:39:07
Exactly like that. Markets would be more volatile. You'd get big swings in inflation. Harder to enforce government policy esp. as regards to ensuring equality.
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 17:33:03
I think they sure help! A country won't inherently collapse without one but will be much more economically vulnerable.
I am back - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 17:14:31
Well yes, it's just annoying for me is all I'm saying. Originally we didn't have the option to deactivate for a long time. Just turn notifications off and go away is generally a fine alternative.
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 12:26:48
Just started :D
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 10:18:46
You will be, yes.
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 09:35:16
Check the timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160801T00&p0=264&msg=WODC+Starts&font=cursive
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 09:18:19
So excited to start round one! I can hardly wait! :D
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 05:04:06
As I had to say to Stag this morning, don't argue with the referee. This is not an adult site. I'm not legally allowed to have profanity on it. I'd much rather ban somebody who cannot stop themse...
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 04:45:55
Watch language.
I am back - Posted by admin 2016-07-31 04:44:39
I should probably rename it to delete account. Honestly that's basically what that option does.
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 19:59:49
Before you answer, if your answer includes Iran, North Korea and Libya, can you please stop believing everything you read on Facebook?
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 19:58:59
I can't really believe I have to debunk this Rothschild conspiracy stuff again. No, they don't. They just don't. First, most banks are in fact nationalized, not privatized. Second, privati...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 19:29:30
The overall rate of use, however, has. The prevalence has increased only because marijuana has increased - taking out marijuana it has dropped massively. Every single other drug is down in use as a tr...
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 19:25:57
Sure. Take Canada, notice stabilized growth since 1935. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/canada/inflation-cpi Notice that Australia jumps on the same growth curve since 1960, despite earlier wil...
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 19:02:43
Did I say countries that exist today without central banks? No. You misread me.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 19:01:04
Even that is still factually wrong. https://www.drugabuse.gov/news-events/news-releases/2015/12/drug-use-trends-remain-stable-or-decline-among-teens The only drug that has been increasing in...
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:50:23
Whether he does or not is irrelevant. Stop arguing with the referee.
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:48:24
So you're saying there's no economic data point you can look to where there is an inflation rate and no central bank?
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:44:49
So you deny that, since the US started their "war on drugs" for instance, drug use has declined? Because stats say otherwise...
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:43:31
You kinda have a problem with personal attacks. I've said this before quite a lot. Just watch it.
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:39:41
But it's true. All the data is that the institution of central banks reduces inflation by 10-20% compared to free markets. Which is a LOT.
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:34:53
NZ didn't prior to 1992.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:34:19
None of that is to say guns prevented more murders than laws did. The point is that making murder illegal reduces murders. Making drugs illegal helps reduce drug use. Laws have some impact on society.
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:28:59
If you look at countries without central banks, inflation in the double digits is common. NZ used to average about 13-14% inflation before we introduced a central bank. Within one year that dropped to...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:27:07
So then by that logic you don't believe in laws. I think drugs and robot prostitutes could also harm other people.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 18:25:42
They cause the murders. Without guns murders would be much harder.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 17:34:42
Would you say the same about murder? Should murder therefore be legal?
Should central banks try to maximize employment? - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 17:24:03
Sunday social thread! Yay! Bit of an economic question this time. Central banks issue currency and set the official cash rate, among other duties. Primarily they do this to control inflation. But...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 17:15:24
Sometimes we disallow things on the basis of social harms. Like drugs for example.
I am back - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 16:53:28
Have to do, like, 3 database queries. It's not like it's automatic.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 09:33:45
Maybe, but in debates it's relatively easy to claim these are exceptions for particular fetishes. What's your opponent going to do?
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 08:38:08
Totally, a lot of what you hear about in debates on these kinds of topics is unrealistic-body-image stuff too.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 08:25:09
As somebody who doesn't watch porn, I don't really get the appeal. I know I'm a minority but eh.
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 08:23:41
ok, noted. I'm going to try and see if I can reproduce it and keep you informed. :)
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 08:10:48
Is that behavior consistent? So like, this message here, does the red #1 not appear until you come to this page?
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 06:57:18
By default when you view a notification by opening it up (clicking on your avatar) it dismisses the message automatically, so you don't get notified about the same thing again unless you view your not...
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 06:48:25
@JoMomma how about for this message?
the sex industry has ruined everyone is my guess - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 06:48:12
First of all can you tell me if you get a notification for this reply?
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:59:51
I also find it interesting how discussions on robots inevitably drift THIS closely to discussions on humans.
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:55:04
Life is much less short, meaningless and miserable, in my view, today than it was 100 years ago. Something's clearly working.
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:47:32
Can't say a perfect life doesn't sound tempting to me. Most of what humans do is about making their lives a little less short, meaningless and miserable.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:46:17
Not like street solicitation means you are tax exempt. Given the safer working environment and economies of scale, cheap, licensed brothels make good money. The only difficulty is usually location, be...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:43:13
That is why I argue over who I trust to do that arguing for me. Since there are too many political concerns for me to deal with every day.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:38:11
If there's a greater supply then there are economic incentives to open more brothels. I'd question why somebody doesn't open cheaper brothels in those places. You could make a fortune.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:35:53
That is probably the maximum limit of yuck-ness that I can allow.
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:30:44
Then you misunderstand the economic definition of a public good. Which is a good nobody wants to buy but everyone wants to have. As part of the state, I quite like discourse as a means to solving...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:28:38
Think it's pretty universal. I mean, not like licensed brothels have very high barriers to entry. Usually you can find a job at one by being a healthy female.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:20:33
Licensed brothels are more attractive for similar reasons. Street solicitation is very rare.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:18:06
The harm is though that you can't regulate it. Who's to say those underground realistic kiddie dolls aren't modeled after 3d scans of real children? And at that point the state has a big obligation to...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:14:35
If the coop produced something people wanted that was just too expensive then that's not a public good. You don't need to break the law to dissent.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:04:30
Not actually true. Price is set by demand and supply. Demand is high for illegal prostitutes and supply is low. Most people and most prostitutes therefore go to the legal ones. In NZ we have seen mass...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:02:12
I can understand that to a significant extent. Wouldn't that just drive the business underground though?
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 05:00:59
You need state institutions because some people break their promises or don't want to go through the system to effect change. There is a natural right to be killed by your fellow man. And we forf...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 04:49:22
But that activity pretty clearly has an impact down the line ie the death of another person. I think most people would accept that if you pay for a murder, you're somewhat culpable if that person dies...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 04:48:04
All the more reason to legalize it IMO.
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 04:32:01
What if the decisions are made collaboratively by all the relevant stakeholders? And we force anyone making a decision to consult with everyone who might be affected by it, rather than only thinking o...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 04:28:52
To further this point, human prostitutes get tested for STDs a lot. Would massively reduce their value if they had one so they're extra careful with that.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 04:27:21
So paying for murder is victimless? Even though the act of paying for murder has no victims and the act of murder is another crime?
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 04:25:56
So there's a few things here that such groups are selling themselves on already if you look at the market for sex dolls: Price Availability Ability to do what you want with them Customized ...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 04:22:17
Yes. I use sunscreen, don't drink caffeine. The ocean is not a strong carcinogen and neither are all bacteria. If you agree there can be indirect victims to crimes then I'd question what crimes a...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:55:59
As someone who avoids things that are likely to lead to cancer, it's not hard. As long as you read the actual science critically and don't just do something because media has sensationalized it. ...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:53:43
You can say I'm conditioned into believing anything. You're equally conditioned into believing what you believe. In and of itself it's not like there's a harm in learning from our surroundings if we t...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:44:06
Suppose that somebody created a realistic sex doll for the purposes of dismembering it. Would that be problematic to you at all? What if it was in the shape of a child, say? Is there no moral limit yo...
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:42:09
This isn't really an argument.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:41:53
Fixed images. I removed some duplicates.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:18:10
Wait, this might be my fault. One moment...
The basic function of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:17:05
Then what was the ego comment?
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:16:39
I'm also PART of the society that makes decisions. As a government where minorities inherently have a large amount of say, there's no problem with that. Nor am I property, because no person possesses ...
The basic function of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 03:10:21
Hey, no need to start a personal attack over it. I'm disbelieving what you wrote there and am happy to be proven wrong.
Robot Prostitution - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 02:34:12
Welcome to the saturday science thread of the week, where we talk the future, technology, science and more! Today's topic is based on an article I posted on my profile feed this week. Should peop...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 02:30:37
I'm saying that "master" is an inadequate term because there are no slaves. So my question is, how can you be a slave to yourself? I don't think I have full control. Lacking control ove...
Thoughts on edeb8 so far - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 02:26:26
As I said on the feature request thing, this design is my personal attempt and I welcome better designers to offer me something, but as it stands this suggestion is currently non-constructive. Don't m...
I am back - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 02:23:22
Please guys, if you're not sure if you want to go, avoid deactivating your accounts. It's kinda a pain for me to reactivate them.
The basic function of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-30 02:22:12
I don't think anyone really denies these things. You and I only differ on whether these are negative or not.
Edeb8 is dead - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 15:55:18
It's ok really, so long as people can be found on both sites.
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:25:56
In some way or another, you are just electing your next master. Say you cast a vote for yourself... ? Even in a system where majority vote wins, the majority become the rulers, and the minority...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:23:59
Kinda hard if your dream job is to be, IDK, a telecommunications engineer, all the big telecoms are largely run by computer algorithms etc... I suppose it depends on your barriers to entry. More creat...
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:21:09
If you say arrangements of matter through time and space are social constructs then literally everything is. A house is one arrangement of matter. Even elementary particles are particular arrangements...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:18:32
Most die. Not mutually exclusive. I'm sure most die while also being upset about going in the first place. As in We Will Not Cease, the soldiers are the biggest supporters of the objectors. How...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:15:53
As jobs become more scarce, inequality rises. People have to work less now than ever before. At some point only the elite find work, and eventually, people won't even need to work anymore. And the pro...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:13:11
Then the state is not holding a gun to your head.
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:12:52
Otherwise we are just machines with sensors attached And in your view, the prefrontal cortex is somehow more "mechanical" than the limbic system? Humans love war. That is why thousand...
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:08:25
A railroad is designed a certain way to suit that purpose. The particular arrangement of that wood and steel is a railroad. Much like a heap of building materials is not a house, to misquote Socrates.
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:07:01
Even so the research shows that roughly half of soldiers intentionally miss their targets. Many others are attempted to be coerced into fighting and refuse. Some have been tortured and killed for not ...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:02:22
The way I see it, the rat race is created by companies. It's a function about the competing wants of managers and workers. We're also getting way off track again haha
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 04:00:35
Surely the simple answer there is to abolish the death penalty in your country? :P Like, you know, mine did more than a century ago.
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:59:06
And how do you ensure access to these options is equal for all?
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:58:00
Nobody's rejecting emotions, to be clear - I'm just saying people should not feel that something upsetting is acceptable just because it's part of the human experience or something. War for example, s...
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:52:19
No because a railroad is defined not by its materials but by it's purpose. Pollution is a real thing because it harms the planet, even though somebody with no knowledge of how ecology works might see ...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:50:09
If you truly oppose a rat race, then you should also be the world's biggest supporter of welfare programs. People should not be forced to keep working or face starvation, especially when we have more ...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:47:30
Humans are not defined by emotions either. Plenty of animals experience all kinds of emotions. The thing is that those myths were used to warn people against the vices displayed by the hero. Odys...
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:44:51
No because an idea is a physical connection between brain cells. That connection exists. I could probably write about 4 paragraphs about what I understood, but I'd rather hear your point. I'm pre...
No Completed Tournaments? - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:42:36
The pages of those tournaments are still there at their original links
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:33:11
Personally, of course, I have to disagree on principle. Even ideas are part of an objective reality. Are you sure you are not referring to Solipsism? Yes. You can reduce yourself to nothing but...
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:24:24
yet the individual is not to be blamed for being reduced to believing that nothing holds any significance after being through such experiences This is a little off-topic but personally I disagree...
Emotions vs Feelings - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:17:30
Society has never embraced troubled souls. This is your fantasy. Some of the earliest texts in human history stigmatized those things.
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 03:16:16
No it's not. That's like saying all forms of capitalism have free markets. My point is that you're reducing, in your word, "most" things to a language set, having no reality outside of ...
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 02:24:49
That would be moral nihilism, not general nihilism. Both concepts and ideas are languages. Set theory is a language in and of itself. Oh, so if society believes strongly enough that God exis...
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 02:16:53
Nihilism is the denial of a reality. You're saying almost everything in life can be reduced to language constructs. That's pretty close to full nihilism, to reduce everything to nothing.
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 01:55:03
Doesn't that sound a lot like nihilism to you?
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 01:52:25
This idea that most things are social constructs kinda implies they're not objectively "real".
Edeb8 Jeopardy! - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 01:48:32
What's Stag's best forum game idea? Tim Tams
Racism - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 01:47:46
Have you become more nihilist recently?
No Completed Tournaments? - Posted by admin 2016-07-29 01:44:59
There have been tournaments in the past BTW (2 WODC competitions), just not on the public tournament platform.
Edeb8 Jeopardy! - Posted by admin 2016-07-28 21:54:09
What is a great forum game? Outer space.
Edeb8 Jeopardy! - Posted by admin 2016-07-28 21:53:17
Welcome to the first casual Friday post! Sorry for those of you who aren't on Friday yet, although you can start the fun early if you like ;) So the rule is that everyone posts TWO things in a ro...
New initiative - themed weekdays - Posted by admin 2016-07-28 12:02:21
That sounds fun too :)
New initiative - themed weekdays - Posted by admin 2016-07-28 05:50:36
How about you do those things on Tuesdays? XD
New initiative - themed weekdays - Posted by admin 2016-07-28 03:35:04
Hi gang! Something new. Check it out: Member Monday - Mondays are the days we thank our awesome community members and give shoutouts to them. Some of the things we do on Member Mondays are thank ...
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-28 02:21:07
10 entries so far! :)
Edeb8 is dead - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 18:34:22
So Edeb8 is like America?
Edeb8 is dead - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 17:13:44
Wait, did Trump say Mexicans are just ex-Americans who got into trouble with the law one too many times?
Edeb8 is dead - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 16:43:17
Can you explain that view non-allegorically?
Edeb8 is dead - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 16:00:35
I'm sure my views on this are very familiar to people ;)
Edeb8 is dead - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 12:46:30
Sorry, you're right, I forgot to update the stats page when the counting mechanism changed. There's 438.
Edeb8 is dead - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 11:20:39
Actually there's over 1500 debates ( source: http://www.edeb8.com/stats ) ... not sure where you got your number from.
Another update - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 11:17:38
Sure you can. Anyone can make a tournament. Just go here: http://www.edeb8.com/debatetournament/new Early on, site users requested forum threads should become locked after 3 months of inactivity....
Another update - Posted by admin 2016-07-27 05:05:23
1. The social authentication system used by edeb8 - which has honestly been the same since the site was launched - was upgraded to the latest version. 2. Tournaments now support 3 different notifica...
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-24 17:59:30
Apologies. Fix'd.
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-24 12:55:35
Yip, links fixed.
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-24 12:55:19
Testing fix for link bug: http://www.edeb8.com/debatetournament/6
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-24 10:58:30
Will make a DDO post tomorrow.
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-24 10:56:47
Clickable link: http://www.edeb8.com/debatetournament/6
WODC 2016 - Posted by admin 2016-07-24 10:56:11
Let's get a strong showing at this year's tournament, folks! http://www.edeb8.com/debatetournament/6 This will also be the first official tournament meaning a badge and immortal fame is up f...
Captchas added - Posted by admin 2016-07-24 10:51:24
Signups and contact forms on the site, now require the correct input of a google captcha. It doesn't stop spam entirely but it might help a tiny bit and hopefully won't be too annoying. Should convinc...
What is "time to prepare"? - Posted by admin 2016-07-21 00:00:54
The rule is that CX happens between every round (ignoring reply rounds), unless otherwise specified by the format (policy debate etc). So if a debate has 4 rounds, there would be 3 rounds of CX. If th...
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 23:58:42
Who says 99% of people can't be prejudiced? It's not informal. It's very formal. Anyone familiar with Buddhism or international debate would recognize the scene. I would say almost as many p...
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 23:10:34
Don't assume your prejudices are universal. In many countries, formal debate isn't even in schools or colleges. The homepage's message used to be more clear and concise, and you complained about ...
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 17:55:41
I really don't understand why monks debating is out of place, but college students debating is not.
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 16:39:24
Maybe it didn't load correctly for you. I know your particular set up has had random issues like these before. The shots are a shot of some clouds, Buddhist monks debating in traditional Buddhist...
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 10:56:08
... ? You said there's a black box with some text right? So surely you must see that. The first line of that is set apart and bolded. That's what I mean. Does the text not change when t...
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 07:27:59
What are the text headings on the slides you can see?
What is "time to prepare"? - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 07:26:08
Before the debate, both sides can be given preparation time to think about the topic. Debaters can start drafting their first round during this time but nobody can post. It's particularly useful ...
Global Conceptual Language - Posted by admin 2016-07-20 01:44:49
Why can't you have both?
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-19 16:07:50
Dude there's 4 other slides.
Extreme political correctness - Posted by admin 2016-07-18 14:25:05
By suspending one of their workers for his belief that Hillary deserves the death penalty, they took the stance that she didn't deserve it Not sure that follows logically. to different degrees....
Extreme political correctness - Posted by admin 2016-07-18 12:52:16
A lot of Americans believe in capital punishment, so it shouldn't be bad PR. If he had said some terrible murderer should be let off without charge, I suspect the airline might have responded in a s...
Extreme political correctness - Posted by admin 2016-07-18 11:30:57
I think conservatives make these things into a scandal. With, you know, conservative lines like this: I personally find it outrageous that they might fire him for simply believing in the death pe...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-07-18 09:39:40
Novice
Extreme political correctness - Posted by admin 2016-07-18 09:39:18
I feel like it's bad PR for the airline. If it brings the airline into disrepute it could affect how many people fly with them. One of the things about modern social media is that people need to be a ...
Platonist Tournament of Philosophy Advertisement - Posted by admin 2016-07-18 05:17:08
Here's a link you can actually click on: http://www.edeb8.com/debatetournament/4/
Platonist Tournament of Philosophy Advertisement - Posted by admin 2016-07-18 05:16:32
Here's a link for anyone interested: http://www.edeb8.com/debatetournament/4/
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 13:31:48
The judging standard came about 6 months after the quality began declining. Likewise there's no correlation with the leaving of any particular member, as far as I can tell (and for the record, nzlocki...
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 12:36:39
No, people like past judgments more than current ones. Or at least rated them higher. I don't assess quality, personally, the community does.
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 03:30:13
I mean, that's the thing ... the community itself hates its OWN judgements more than it used to. Quality has not dropped so much since the standard was introduced but the trend overall is still there....
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 03:20:51
Thanks. I also want to add notifications for tournaments, private tournaments, and auto-setup tournaments with preset topics, as goals.
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 03:19:46
In general I suppose I should add in something to make it more obvious that the images/text change.
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 03:18:46
There's only one scenic background... ? Are you sure you looked at it carefully?
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 03:17:20
What we're up against is this: https://s32.postimg.org/a9tvjx5o5/jquality.png Obviously there's something to improve on there.
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-17 03:07:56
Which background? You did notice that it's a slideshow right?
Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-07-16 16:41:14
Recently, faced with declining judging quality and with strong community support, we introduced the new judging standards system. So, how do people think the community judging standard is working...
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-16 16:26:02
Note that there will be an official edeb8 tournament every so often on this new platform, the badge for which was unveiled a while ago :D
Feature Release - Posted by admin 2016-07-16 16:25:05
So this one brings a couple of changes: Most obviously, tournaments are a thing now. Three different types of tournaments are supported with a variety of custom settings. Tournaments can be run e...
Challenge Opening Arguments - Posted by admin 2016-07-13 08:24:24
Wasn't that part of the point of profiles?
Challenge Opening Arguments - Posted by admin 2016-07-13 05:12:04
More importantly I feel like it would give a contender's advantage, don't you? Because then when you prep, you're prepping for an argument, not a resolution.
Outage - Posted by admin 2016-07-13 03:27:38
Unfortunately not right now but it might be possible to work out eventually.
Outage - Posted by admin 2016-07-13 03:18:46
Apologies to all for the short recent outage. This was to comply with edeb8's no-spam rules and requirements. Going forward it is likely some changes will be made to limit emails made by the site...
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 10:16:41
Also removed image of execution in progress. You should know better than this. If it was a movie, and it would get an R13 or above rating in NZ, then probably that's about the limit. Roughly. I u...
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 10:08:38
Right, because bathing suits are an objective standard for sexual expression.
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 10:06:43
Sorta like asking "do you like humans?" lol. Do I like that erotic dances exist? I don't really mind. I mean, I'm not really into it personally, but it's anthropological. And unlike stuff li...
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 09:59:55
And to be clear - that's not because the 1950s weren't sexualized, but because of how consciousness of sexual expression shifts over time and rituals have changed. We're keeping this website appropria...
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 09:57:05
I used to sit in on a lot of history of sexuality lectures - they came just before my marketing strategy paper for some reason - so I'm pretty confident I can defend that it is not a fact. If peo...
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 09:51:54
Wasn't the elites dude. Ample evidence including actual preserved writings, including writings by the lower classes themselves (preserved due to the copious amounts of graffiti around the place) prove...
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 09:47:14
Have you ever visited Pompeii?
Rather than complain - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 09:25:23
There's the premise that we differ on.
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 09:24:54
No different from past human sexual cultures, believe it or not. Society has means of repressing and celebrating different forms of sexual expression throughout history. Modern era sexual politics is ...
Sexualized Culture - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 08:26:01
Kinda ironic given how much you've talked about why the idolization of rape is legitimate recently.
Rather than complain - Posted by admin 2016-07-11 08:24:56
It's a stable site, not an experimental one. Any given changes will be incremental just by the nature of a stable product. We're not going down the New Coke road.
Is the site being given up on? - Posted by admin 2016-07-10 14:07:05
Glad I ducked. If you have great ideas for how to achieve those things you can: a) make a suggestion & get people to vote for it b) try to convince me on your idea* c) start your own debate ...
Is the site being given up on? - Posted by admin 2016-07-10 13:53:00
I won't do anything major with the site. I'm planning on implementing a rather large new feature. *ducks before you complain*
Is the site being given up on? - Posted by admin 2016-07-10 13:18:06
No comment ... yet. But please look back on this in about uhm, 1-2 weeks and tell me again I've been complacent.
vote Wylted - Posted by admin 2016-07-09 02:42:51
Let us know how the election goes! WODC should start very shortly after this ... I was mostly waiting for this election to be over because obviously the presidency is very important to many DDO folks ...
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-06 14:29:09
States by nature diminish freedom Only in some imaginary world where all freedom is positive. Logically justified or morally justified, because this thread is about whether the state is morally...
Extrajudicial murder - good? - Posted by admin 2016-07-06 10:20:12
There is "due process" to the law.
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-06 05:12:31
So you only support majority rule with a slight minority basis as a means for checking power? I support both power being checked and that being the best way to do it. But that is not to say I would...
Extrajudicial murder - good? - Posted by admin 2016-07-06 01:59:25
He wasn't killed extra-judicially though.
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-06 01:56:38
Just want to clarify this bit here: Governments can be entirely voluntary and participatory. States cannot. Why can't I entirely voluntarily be part of a state?
Extrajudicial murder - good? - Posted by admin 2016-07-05 11:15:21
Please, go ahead and share these examples. I feel like your prior point is entirely semantic and that in effect you're not substantively arguing whether this would mean a harm accrues or not.
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-05 11:13:02
But morally you can support the rule of a minority? Marginally, yes. In fact every good democracy must have some form of minority rule to avoid a majoritarian tyranny. That does not justify the...
Extrajudicial murder - good? - Posted by admin 2016-07-05 06:39:59
Do you understand that? What's the difference? Both ways people do things outside the present law in accordance with what the president says. he is not actually saying that the laws which make ...
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-05 06:37:28
So you are okay with the minority having representation over society? I think it's a valid form of government, even if it's not the best, it's typically better than none at all. What is the val...
Extrajudicial murder - good? - Posted by admin 2016-07-04 18:35:49
Clearly you're not following me if you have to ask that question. Maybe try to think about what I'm saying before assuming I don't understand. You give the problem of lawlessness ie Mexican drug ...
Extrajudicial murder - good? - Posted by admin 2016-07-04 18:25:03
I would. Because you don't solve the problem of lawlessness by legalizing more crimes.
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-03 07:59:24
Wow it's hard when you spread things between posts. If that is your answer, then it can be simply flipped by saying that the 30% are justified to protect the 70% from harming society. Sure and...
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-03 06:51:19
you don't have a mental disability or something I don't the question is what gives the 70% the right to restrict the usage of marijuana by the 30% For the fourth time, it is to help prevent t...
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-03 06:11:04
If marijuana was made illegal, and 30% of the population actively used it, what gives the majority that voted for it to be illegal the authority to enforce a reaction? Assuming active users wanted ...
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-03 04:07:57
what is the basis for one man to rule over another man? Most people agreeing to work together. How do you justify the fact that one subsection (one specific grouping) of society is given unive...
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-03 03:33:55
should be decided by 100% general consensus among voting citizens? No. Most people agree that living in a state is nice - this is enough for a jurisdiction. What is the justification for why on...
Justify the morality of the state - Posted by admin 2016-07-03 03:12:54
1. "Let's generally agree that we should work together!" ... "OK!" 2. The point of a liberal government is to take into account as many views as possible in determining policy, b...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 19:45:29
I think if you wanted to get into terrible atheists though, I'm surprised you didn't bring up Sam Harris. XD
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 19:43:41
The "nature of God" is kinda a little unspecific though, as I pointed out before. All arguments against God, and for God for that matter, presume certain qualities of God. The only arguments...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 19:11:32
Not sure about that. Can you give a particularly egregious example of that ignorance?
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 18:24:59
Construction
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 18:24:32
He's absolutely right though. Both parties made choices which led to the rape. Raping only requires one choice, the choice to rape. Both parties did not make the choice for the rape to occur.
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 18:03:48
Watch. Your. Language. I shouldn't have to remind you several times per day. If there is no connection between the decision to rape and the prior decisions of the victim, don't blame the victim. ...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 18:00:34
Liberals are right, because male rape is really bad and there needs to be more attention on it. It's seriously under-reported too.
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 17:58:14
You're going to be raped whether you dress like a slut or not, regardless of what the rapists say. Science is pretty clear on that. Totally fair equivalency.
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 17:38:15
(note: "girl" used as an example only. Don't mean to ignore the problem of male rape also.)
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 17:37:05
So then a dress is a partial yes to you. And I have a significant problem with that. There's no logic to this, btw. Nothing to connect their choice of how to dress with the choice of somebody els...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 17:25:00
And that's exactly one step removed from a dress being a yes. The whole line of thinking is wrong ... somebody isn't even partly at fault for somebody else believing something they did implied consent...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 17:12:11
So if a choice is made to dress sluttily, and on that basis somebody rapes someone, would you consider the slutty dresser at partial fault for the rape because of their decision to dress the way they ...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 17:09:53
Bus
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 16:19:12
What do you mean, "allowed to happen"? I don't see them choosing to get raped - somebody else made that choice. They didn't allow that choice, but it wasn't their choice to make. Somebody el...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 16:07:12
How can somebody have partial fault for a decision they didn't make? You haven't really shown what the causal link is between "them having made an arbitrary choice at some arbitrary point in the ...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 15:44:01
See? So why wouldn't you act the same with a rape victim? Your position isn't held by logic. You're just rephrasing the position. For it to be logic you need more than a conclusion, you need to s...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 15:21:23
That's not logic, BTW, that's just you wrapping up the ideology of psychopathy in slightly different words and accusing me of not responding to it.
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 15:20:41
Meh, you went to an ex bullying victim about 30 minutes ago and blamed them. Don't see why you wouldn't do it to a rape victim. Liability produces responsibility, and responsibility makes one lia...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 15:10:22
Rape victims certainly don't want to be blamed for being raped. It's not "normal" to attack somebody for something they didn't do. Please point out an actual basis that in no way relies...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 15:01:17
Sociopaths at least know that they *should* empathize with others. You're quite insistent that the only logical thing to do, when somebody is raped, is to give them a cold shoulder at best. The a...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 14:47:30
Heck, I hope that if somebody robs your house, you won't blame the robber, but blame yourself for having inadequate locks or something. Of course you might, but the robbery is still the robbers respon...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 14:45:03
See, I feel this is ultimately where we differ. You have no empathy for others. There's a word for that condition. Psychopathy.
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 14:24:45
That's like a fairtax argument. Sometimes "equal" means "equal RELATIVE to your current unequal position". Doesn't make them lesser beings just as poor people are not lesser beings...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 14:23:13
Let me stop you just at the first bit because I think the premise needs to be addressed before we can continue the conversation. Specifically, that victim blaming should be embraced. There's a bi...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 05:45:33
Pencil
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 05:34:47
I wouldn't call them ignorant, though Dawkins obviously doesn't go into the philosophy too deeply being from another field. Both generally write for a wider audience. Maybe arrogant and conceited thou...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:42:13
In some ways I'd contest that. There may be psycho or physiological reasons for people not being able to stop a rape. Not sure Aristotle's conception of democracy is necessarily the most relevant...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:38:50
Infinite, as I say, makes no sense attached to something physical. It creates all sorts of mathematical issues.
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:31:51
constitution
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:30:54
Putting aside the physics - it's the evidence that troubles me. In that I see strong textual evidence that it's of a fictional genre.
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:28:51
As I've said before, there's two basic kinds of logic that apply here. Inductively God makes no logical sense because God cannot be observed. Deductively it depends on how you define "God&...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:22:14
So in your view is logic necessary also? Then that has an inherent contradiction with the prime mover and the omnipotence point as well. Of course, as I've said and you've acknowleged, these argu...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:17:53
Well, I believe Christianity is impossible because 1) God makes no logical sense to me, and 2) Jesus' resurrection seems highly implausible even if God did exist.
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 04:16:12
I don't know it need be oppression. In NZ we have a voting system, for example, that requires both minority and majority interests to be taken into account when determining parliament. There are ...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 03:46:25
But if logic is part of our reality, and God is not bounded by any of the rules of our reality, then surely God is not bounded by logic? Isn't that your implication? That basically excludes deduction ...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 03:30:40
I gain a lot of benefits from not following a religion, most notably freedom from the nagging feeling that I cannot reconcile those beliefs with the facts. Followers of Pythagoras kept the proof ...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 03:28:07
I think it boils down to this: Such a God would be beyond our understanding, so it makes sense that we can't see how it is possible. So in other words you deny that such a God is defined by...
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 03:25:40
I personally know somebody who was raped despite not drinking, not staying alone with any individual (willingly anyway) while carrying a knife. And this person is American. Just saying.
Rape - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 03:24:06
For what it's worth, I'm sick of this victim-blaming. I know first hand what it's like, being told I deserved to be bullied in school because I came from a poor family, for example. It's not fun and d...
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-30 03:15:07
Watch. Your. Language. You're lucky this wasn't reported. You have a real problem with attitude and I think I speak for most people when I say that these kinds of sustained personal attacks ...
Team Debate - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 21:28:05
1) This generates a small message at the top 2) As they say in computer science, t's not a bug, it's a feature. You need to check a box if you want this - I can only presume the debate was set up co...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 20:48:19
Sure but you cannot believe in God and not follow a religion, at least as I understand it. It is possible one might describe my ideas as a form of naturalism, without me necessarily subscribing to the...
Team Debate - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 20:44:53
Will look into this soon and get back to you.
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 19:20:16
It's being worked on. Sorry!
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 19:17:24
The definition is fine, albeit confusingly rendered in a passive sentence. Atheism implies a negative belief, which is indeed different from the complete absence of a belief. I would consider Go...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 17:59:38
It's sorta like saying you haven't seen Larstonville, so by my logic it doesn't exist. Of course it doesn't and that's why I haven't seen it - but then again, it might and I am yet to see it. The defa...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 17:57:51
If I had no other sources of evidence, I would not believe in its existence. Seeing is not all there is to believing - sight is only one sense, and it's not foolproof.
Duplicate Posts - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 17:29:06
This is caused by people resubmitting a post through their browser, often unintentionally by refreshing a page. The problem is that sometimes duplicate posts are non-consecutive. Otherwise it's fairly...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 17:07:28
I don't believe in God, therefore I deny it. A believer might still be skeptical, and I'm a skeptical disbeliever. If you call what I've said so far against God to be "no evidence", tha...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 16:14:47
Are you saying you can't both be skeptical and disbelieve in something?
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 13:21:19
Opposite. Absence of evidence is evidence of absence. Put it this way - if I drew 5 cards from a deck of playing cards and they were all red, would you assume I had 50/50 black and red cards? I...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 13:18:01
Seeing is not the only form of evidence though, is it? I certainly believed in God when somebody told me about Him, then disbelieved when I thought a bit more about it. Being told about it is evi...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 13:11:19
"Telling me" is an assertion. I take assertions for what evidence they are, which can hardly be described as strong. I could assert right now that you have a house on the north pole and ride...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 13:05:49
@Stag AND I just had to remove the comment for the third time. As I say, be careful.
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 13:01:29
@Stag removed doubled comment, again. Be careful with refreshing.
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 12:57:17
Calling me an idiot repeatedly is non-constructive. You should learn more intelligent ways of dealing with arguments. Regardless of whether arguments raised by somebody are poor, that is not grounds f...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 12:52:43
CS Lewis actually used precisely that example, as an aside. In Mere Christianity he said that New York's existence was for him largely premised on faith, and that therefore, empiricism should not be t...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 12:49:22
Again, do you understand the raven paradox? If not, don't talk about things YOU don't understand. So do you believe Einstein was a physicist or a meta-physicist when he came up with the theory of...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 12:39:42
@Stag removed doubled comment (presumably accidental)
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 12:34:59
It's not a fallacy. That's how empiricism works. Hence the raven paradox with how observing non-black non-ravens increase the odds that all ravens are black. Seems illogical until you think about it. ...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 12:26:41
I wish you'd reply in all one post. Makes it easier for me. Happy to discuss theories, doesn't mean I'll accept them without evidence. Just because you disbelieve something doesn't mean you shoul...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 12:04:20
Sure you can disbelieve in economics. You'd be empirically wrong because we can prove money has social consequences (which is what economics studies) but you could still disbelieve in it.
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 10:33:37
Recently I've been feeling like agnosticism makes less and less sense to me as a label. My reflection is the very fact that there is a label implies an active opinion. For what it's worth, I thin...
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 10:28:18
Yes I do, and I was using God as a mere example. I don't believe in any metaphysics.
Atheism - Posted by admin 2016-06-28 05:18:41
Well, I consider myself to be an atheist for what it is worth. I'd consider a religion to be a positive metaphysical belief system. Since atheism is a negative belief (ie a denial of a belief) it...
Satan or God? - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 13:33:37
I think the idea in the Bible is that Satan has no power over people who make the choice to be with God. Again I'd refer to Job on that.
Satan or God? - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 13:31:43
As I mentioned, pride and envy are certainly key themes of the story. But I don't see a direct Biblical reference for Satan being in denial. I addressed the Jesus narrative already but I'm happy to go...
Satan or God? - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 12:09:13
Not sure here. A few things come to mind, assuming we accept Lucifer = the devil (which I understand is something of a debate, as there are other interpretations also - personally I think Lucifer is b...
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 05:52:07
I feel like you're a bit misinformed about your statistics there. And you're really stretching verses with your own interpretation.
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 05:30:14
Again, you're saying that, not God. So why aren't you open to changing your mind on it?
Human Nature - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 05:29:44
It's not about states of being. A depressed person is literally incapable of escaping a state of being that is unhappy. Often depressed people, as opposed to merely sad people, are confused about why ...
Human Nature - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 05:14:52
Yes, in that it is possible to become depressed without choosing to. Depression is abnormal and should be cured. Sadness, even extreme tragedy, on the other hand, is totally normal. Lots of peopl...
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 05:08:22
But nowhere does the bible say that having one perversion means you have them all. That is clearly extrabiblical.
Human Nature - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 05:07:12
You don't know how journals work. Who peer-reviewed that book? And what actual neuroscientific credentials does the writer have? You probably only believe this because it fits your worldview. ...
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:53:43
Even if that were valid, I don't remember the bit where God said "And thou shalt treat all homosexuals as pedophiles, for they are so".
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:46:51
It's this "don't care what anybody says" attitude that worries me about some people.
Human Nature - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:45:39
Every scientific paper published in a reputable journal in the last 50ish years would disagree with you there.
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:31:53
No. Homosexuality = attracted to same sex. Homosexuals as well as heterosexuals (and bisexuals etc) may be pedophiles. There's no correlation.
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:27:13
I would. There are better ways of dealing with those people. Heck, I wouldn't even want to see the shooter put to death. People make light of death more tragically than anything else.
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:25:52
A pedophile is someone who sexually molests children. No, that's a child molester. A pedophile is somebody sexually attracted to children. Like, just because you're attracted to dogs, say, doesn't...
Human Nature - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:24:12
It is a chemical inbalance, and it makes a difference to how it is treated.
Human Nature - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 04:04:17
There's a lot of truth to this as brains as surprisingly malleable at a young age, but there are two factors I think you're missing. First, brains start developing in the womb, before birth. If a...
Orlando shooting - Posted by admin 2016-06-27 03:59:42
Obviously I consider it a tragedy, although I think I've made my views on the topic clear already.
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-06-26 09:15:13
... which isn't true of any of the members involved in the decision. I make major decisions too. Feature updates are definitely in the works that, and I hope I'm not being too cryptic in saying t...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-06-25 14:58:31
cuddles
Favorite Music - Posted by admin 2016-06-25 09:50:14
It's been a long time since I released anything publicly. Certainly my most recent piece that I did let out, which was an orchestral cover for a work by another artist, got a lot more praise than any ...
Favorite Music - Posted by admin 2016-06-25 09:10:36
For what it's worth, I like: Melodic Metal (Dragonforce, Amaranthe etc) Epic classical / "trailer music" (Two Steps From Hell, Audiomachine etc) Other random stuff (ie Te Vaka, Owl ...
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-23 07:34:01
Warning about graphic content. Please be careful when posting it.
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-23 07:33:37
Doesn't sound any more ludicrous to me than half of what Christians believe.
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-23 05:49:36
Again, legendary development. Nietzsche did a fair job of pointing out some of the absurdity in the Anti-Christ but there's a lot more to it than scripture, obviously. The fact it permeates scrip...
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-23 05:25:46
Because of the degree of legendary development being totally insane, even within the scriptures. No other church like it. It's so malleable in its beliefs. The only book in the Bible that I belie...
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-23 04:32:25
Personally I think Christianity is the strangest.
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-23 01:06:54
I can never choose between debates lol
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-23 01:06:32
Nope
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-21 02:13:23
Nope, not at all.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-21 01:35:16
Personally I see a world that is flourishing. Assistance in overcoming is a form of protection.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 14:14:11
Sure you resent it, doesn't mean it would collapse. Sometimes the support you give others can help them overcome hardship.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 14:01:16
What I advocate has not been tried. I believe it is compassionate to protect people from hardship.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:53:02
None of that means it need be self-destructive.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:44:19
Suicide rate is still much lower than death tolls in wars of old though.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:40:35
It won't but up to you.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:35:41
Not sure why it need be self-destructive.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:30:02
*eye roll*
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:27:37
An individual could, but not everyone could. Somebody is bound to steal something from someone someday.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:18:07
As somebody who has recently destroyed a wasp hive (which was not easy) I can confirm killing the queen did not destroy all the wasps.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:17:08
Hierarchy of needs. Socialization is a very universal one. What you see as freedom I sometimes see as surrender. The liberty to steal, for example, can hardly be viewed as compatible with the fre...
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 13:01:47
It's almost comical how you misunderstand the randomest of stuff sometimes. In this case, bees. No, killing a queen does not destroy the hive. A hive can, in almost every case, raise a new one quickly...
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 12:46:13
Now how is that constructive dialogue? A claim that I would contest something is not what I'd call weaseling. That would be if I avoided contesting it despite saying I would. I don't remember ever doi...
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 12:25:05
There's a big difference between leaving something uncontested and letting it be conceded. I see plenty of things day to day that I disagree with. For example, I don't believe Coca-cola is the best ta...
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 09:48:31
I'd contest that.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 09:41:35
Would that argument hold any water if you replaced hive with social?
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 09:23:54
As per usual, depends on how you define freedom. I believe the only way to balance negative and positive freedoms is through equality legislation. Equality has always been a central tenant of liberali...
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 04:44:32
Hence why I said true. Libertarians hijacked a lot of titles in the 20s.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 04:26:32
I don't think that's totally fair either. I consider myself to be a true classical liberal. Freedom & equality all the way.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 04:19:37
I'd be closest to liberal. I take a lot of ideas from the Greens and others though.
Priest of Swag - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 03:57:56
Feel free to at tag me for stuff like this. I'll get around to it. This does make sense.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-20 03:54:23
I'm more opposed to the armed forces than Bernie. Unlike Bernie, I am a pacifist. I oppose about half of the present US constitution. Not saying I blame anyone for upholding it, but there's plent...
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-18 04:31:41
Perhaps, I was talking on average based largely on what gets filtered down through the media.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-18 04:03:41
Maybe 75%. American Liberals are quite moderate to say the least by global standards. Some examples of differences I'd have with most of those: - I'm somewhat more opposed to the armed forces - I ...
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-18 03:48:25
Pretty much - I take inspiration from many liberal groups but I don't fit neatly into any of them.
Your political Ideology - Posted by admin 2016-06-18 03:34:15
Liberal, as you know, which I define as being a belief in balanced freedom with equality. And I take little bits that I like from different subcategories of liberalism.
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-18 03:30:08
Yip
Policy Debates - Posted by admin 2016-06-18 03:28:10
I can. Might be worth checking out MUNA Intl. My friend Bowen Shi I believe helped establish their platform for MUNA outside of the normal qualifying circuit. One thing that sets MUN apart from other ...
Policy Debates - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 23:13:15
Parliamentary, despite the name, is not a roleplay format. We have good reasons for not prioritizing those two, including: - the fact they don't work well with our existing platform - the f...
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 23:10:42
My profile count is inaccurate due to testing debates that were subsequently removed from the database entirely.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 12:55:52
Your position is that violence is necessary for peace. It is violence vs peace IF there is an acceptance that violence is not necessary for peace. This discussion is therefore on the necessity of viol...
What should I do for my 100th debate? - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 10:07:29
Any cool ideas?
Policy Debates - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 07:49:39
You can do policy debates on the site now. Here's the format: Aff - 8000 chars Cross-Examination Neg - 8000 chars Cross-Examination Aff - 8000 chars Cross-Examination Neg - 8000 chars...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 07:42:28
This is all in spite of the fact that every totalitarian and oppressive government has arisen through violence, and almost every liberal change in human history has been non-violent. Genocides etc can...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 06:22:28
Called it. Told you you're not interested in it because it's a what if. If the quakers hadn't arisen the outcome of the war would have been different, but you don't want to engage with that and put it...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 06:00:37
My point is this - if what ifs are unacceptable, your only acceptable standard of morality is whatever you believe people before you have correctly executed. It's like the ultimate unimaginative conse...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 05:57:41
You're saying I admit it anytime you assert something. Quote me the passage where I admitted it. I'll give you one, the English Civil War opposing an oppressive government was ended by the Quaker...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 05:45:46
For what it's worth - plenty, but you wouldn't accept them as successes because you have a skewed, short-term view of success. Plenty of genocides never happened because of peace movements but since y...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 05:37:22
At this point I'm fairly convinced you're not saying anything substantive anymore. You're just repeating that my position is evil or idiotic, and that yours is necessary. You'd fit right in with ...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-17 04:00:36
You say circumstances matter. Don't outcomes matter too? Hitler justified his policy of killing Jews because, and I quote, "we are at war." It was a circumstance and to him, killing seemed a...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-16 12:06:17
He should not use it because then he'd be a killer. Killing is immoral for the psychopath, so should it also be immoral for the victim. Calling the alternative a "mental case" is hardly co...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-16 07:30:41
Mankind has no such inclination. Do not blame mankind as a whole for the violent actions of a few. The world is certainly more peaceful when people are not killing each other than when they are. ...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-16 06:31:49
And you didn't listen that: 1) "supporting the fight" need not be violent, and 2) there is no need for a right When I look at history, I see violence has destroyed more people than ...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-16 06:13:58
I would not support violence used by the state. I think states should be less violent and my own votes reflect that. This does not mean states have no right to exist. As you know I strongly oppos...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-16 06:12:14
What have you done to earn the English language? Have you personally put in all the effort of thousands of generations to evolve complex language constructs like verbs or nouns? Or were you just taugh...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-16 05:49:49
Most of what I support can also be connected somehow to slavery, but that does not logically mean you need slavery.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-16 05:48:11
You don't need to earn peace. You have peace by default by simply not being violent. The fight for a better future need not be violent. Doing nothing IS absolutely non violent, although ther...
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 08:31:11
Fun fact. I just did a check on a bunch of the IP addresses that have been caught under this, and ALL of them I checked resolved to the city of Nellore, just above Chennai, in India. There must be one...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:52:55
So you presume.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:39:56
This is a Hollywood narrative. Nobody "has to" fight back by killing people. As I say, it's the last resort of those without the imagination to understand that there are other ways.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:26:52
I should say, you know who really lives and dies a naive idiot in my view? Suicide bombers. They're the perfect example of somebody who lives and dies a naive idiot.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:25:35
So you say. If that's your worldview, well, live by the sword, die by the sword. I'd prefer to live in peace. What they accomplished was the perpetuation of a much greater idea, that being, that nonvi...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:22:03
Sure but cooperate with whom? With an oppressive state? No thanks.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:21:00
I don't believe you need to resort to immoral behavior just because others do. There are many means of achieving causes and killing is not a good one. The reason life or death situations like tha...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:03:16
Since when do you have to follow the rules?
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:02:51
You don't know that. All I said was, lots of people have assumed such movements wouldn't, when in reality they accomplished that and much more. People are more war-averse than at any other point in hu...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 04:00:55
Insofar as soldiers kill people, you either have to accept that killing people is moral, or that soldiering is immoral. "Tool" is a nice way to dress up that you are killing people for your ...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 03:42:27
Sure, until somebody overpowers you. OR you could just not run a state by force, but by cooperation. Take your pick.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 03:40:10
Well some people can personally feel empathy for other people. It's sociopathic to be so self-absorbed as to never consider what impact your actions have on other people. Firearms do not protect ...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 03:19:00
Common misconception. The reality is that violence actually makes other people more violent, not less as many would assume. In many parts of the world it's a self-perpetuating culture.
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 03:07:39
I oppose all violence because it's hurtful towards other people. I don't believe that it is sensible to end suffering through causing more suffering. I do not believe there are any scenarios wher...
Terrorism - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 02:52:09
For what it's worth, I oppose violence towards other human beings, with the exception of the unborn (who I do not consider human). People are terrorists because they get sufficiently frustrated w...
Resolutions - Posted by admin 2016-06-15 00:01:46
That's called "squirreling" and has never been acceptable. Aff is said to have a "semi-divine right of definition" in debating parlance, meaning they can define the topic so long a...
Universal Healthcare Coverage for Trans - Posted by admin 2016-06-14 13:33:52
I'm surprised they're awake at this hour lol.
Universal Healthcare Coverage for Trans - Posted by admin 2016-06-14 04:19:17
The more usual therapy is used for, for example, drug addict recovery etc. The local governments fund organizations like anti-violence groups and stuff too. Some areas have specialized youth therapy o...
Universal Healthcare Coverage for Trans - Posted by admin 2016-06-14 04:17:28
In general hospitals and stuff fund mental health, including therapy, for just about any reason. Sometimes there's a waiting list. It very much depends. In New Zealand for example, if you have an...
Universal Healthcare Coverage for Trans - Posted by admin 2016-06-14 03:56:23
Basically no if it is considered by doctors to be elective. Plastic surgery isn't usually covered either. There are exceptions if doctors deem it non-elective. For example plastic surgery would probab...
Universal Healthcare Coverage for Trans - Posted by admin 2016-06-14 03:39:13
Universal coverage does not typically extend to any sort of elective surgery.
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-06-09 05:03:38
I don't think she wants to change anything. Everytime she speaks she mostly praises Obama to high heavens, says she'll follow and expand what he's done, and repeat some typical Democrat party lines.
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-06-09 04:57:24
I doubt you could name me one thing Clinton actually wants to change about the current government policy. Absolutely the epitome of establishment politics. Trump will win against her easily, I'm ...
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-06-09 04:39:30
Hillary Clinton absolutely wants to keep the status quo. She's about as conservative as they come with all the things she wants to conserve. Populist = doing things not motivated by any fixed ide...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 17:32:34
Some people have too much time on their hands... :
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 03:58:31
Wait, so you think left and right are economic positions? Because there's a big difference between economic and political philosophy. In a classical sense many anarchist thinkers have certainly b...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 03:40:45
Define "basic". My understanding here would be that the basic type is "abolishing government" since it is common to all, and then the more complex types would be the ones that buil...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 03:36:23
Certainly that's one type of anarchism, but it isn't the only type. Anyone who wants to abolish government for any reason is nowadays called an anarchist.
True perspectives - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 02:54:24
But it does not follow from those premises that the world revolves around you. Rather it follows that your observations of the world revolve around you. Big difference. So let me be clear then: ...
Treatment of mental health in the western world - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 02:43:39
In NZ doctors are probably considerably less afraid of getting sued. If anything I think there's a strong culture of "she'll be right" here. Although there is still a stigma against mental i...
Treatment of mental health in the western world - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 02:28:40
Depends on the doctor. Mine's pretty good. This wasn't different mental processes, this was people who literally had chunks of their brain missing. Either through some tragic accident or a birth ...
Treatment of mental health in the western world - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 01:03:32
So, I think really the issue is that people are under or over diagnosed. I agree with your thoughts to this extent: I strongly believe much of society is over-medicated. That having been said, I ...
True perspectives - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 00:49:31
Subjective morality has nothing to do with it (indeed morality is subjective IMHO). Morality might well be subjective but that doesn't mean a moral viewpoint cannot be excluded. There are indeed cultu...
True perspectives - Posted by admin 2016-06-05 00:47:25
Then please, go ahead and falsify it. A claim like "you are the only person who exists, everything you see is simulated, and actually the world was just created 1 second ago with an appearance of...
U.S. National Language - Posted by admin 2016-06-04 14:23:01
This was somewhat enunciated in the article you linked also: State sovereign immunity does not extend to cases where a plaintiff alleges the state's action is in violation of the federal or state co...
U.S. National Language - Posted by admin 2016-06-04 14:21:25
Sovereign immunity does not override the constitution though, does it? The supreme court has occasionally struck down rights that the federal government has claimed even though they are not among the ...
True perspectives - Posted by admin 2016-06-04 12:45:47
In my previous reply I mentioned 2 discrete philosophical refutations taken from different positions btw, although I must emphasize again that this is probably the worst context you could have set it ...
U.S. National Language - Posted by admin 2016-06-04 01:15:38
I don't remember that being in the constitution. I bet there'd be a lawsuit over it.
U.S. National Language - Posted by admin 2016-06-04 01:08:37
But how is it specifically delegated to the federal government?
U.S. National Language - Posted by admin 2016-06-04 00:26:29
Isn't this a states' rights issue too?
Update - Posted by admin 2016-06-03 16:00:42
Can I have reports of these problems/bugs? Will look into that team thing soon.
Update - Posted by admin 2016-06-03 03:34:16
NEW: Team selection The most requested feature of all time is here! If you are in multiple teams, it is now possible to select a team to use when joining a debate. If creating a debate, this is...
Edeb8 FAQ - Posted by admin 2016-06-03 01:50:15
Fair point.
Edeb8 FAQ - Posted by admin 2016-06-03 01:38:15
That's more or less the point long-term, I just felt like it would be good to hit the ground running.
Edeb8 FAQ - Posted by admin 2016-06-03 01:34:07
How many times have you heard somebody ask, for example "why can't I change my profile picture?"
Edeb8 FAQ - Posted by admin 2016-06-02 21:17:10
What sort of things get frequently asked around here? If you're a newer member, what would be useful for you in an FAQ?
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-06-02 10:20:11
The most likely thing is that your connection was interrupted for some reason during the submission. I can't rule out a programming issue without the full post but I doubt it somewhat if it was just o...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-06-02 09:43:05
So what did it say?
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-06-02 04:39:15
Yip, exactly. Stag found a way to basically make your own account insecure if you do something very weird. I'm working on a fix.
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-06-02 04:37:19
Try to use some weird formatting or something? A bit hard without knowing how the rest of the post was meant to go.
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-06-01 07:11:55
I already do. They each had a long warning period and chose not to respond in that time either, despite being online.
True perspectives - Posted by admin 2016-06-01 07:10:48
Just going to word this a little carefully. It's not that I don't know why it is false - it is that I don't know why he believes it is true. Often these things are rooted in a deeper psychological iss...
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-06-01 06:57:57
If they simply explained that to me, all would be fine.
True perspectives - Posted by admin 2016-06-01 06:50:02
From an intellectual standpoint rape is a sexual expression of control/power. Him saying he wants more rape culture means he wants more people to exercise power over each other, so he can feel he cont...
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-06-01 06:48:12
"They" (if they are several) are aware that the reason is suspected multiaccounting, and also that they can easily contact me to get "their" accounts back. Broadly the system ...
True perspectives - Posted by admin 2016-06-01 06:34:58
I'd give him the address and phone number of the nearest counselling professional.
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-06-01 06:33:33
Multiaccounting. I can't reveal the exact internal data the system uses but they can easily get their accounts back by just talking to me, regardless of whether the system was right or not. So far I h...
Re-evaluating the feedback point - Posted by admin 2016-05-31 15:19:02
People often check it after threads are made. I'm glad you did :)
Re-evaluating the feedback point - Posted by admin 2016-05-31 14:49:27
The aim is to get poor judges who might not be so familiar with the judging process up to speed with what is required. Starting out with learning how to choose a winner, then learning how to do a good...
Re-evaluating the feedback point - Posted by admin 2016-05-31 13:55:00
The reason it exists is to encourage judges to leave helpful feedback. Can you think of a better incentive?
Likelihood of an American Civil War - Posted by admin 2016-05-31 02:28:11
The biggest thing holding the country together is common sense. An armed insurrection works to nobody's interest. Don't put any stock in what armed forces train for. They also had a very expensiv...
Likelihood of an American Civil War - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 23:56:01
I am among the group who laughs at this
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 09:17:47
Again, doesn't follow. It's based on the same faulty premise, and besides which, being mental is totally different from being wrong.
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 09:15:27
I try to address the key points of clash. It's good debate practice to pre-empt what a judge would consider the most important points in a debate. If you respond to every point, you run out of time. F...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 09:10:20
My arguments are rooted in the very opposite of establishment - I don't think a definition can be established. People identify with being a triangle for their gender and nothing in your argument suppo...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 09:01:13
I don't believe, if you take an average, there are any significant outliers. For example, Shakespeare may have written prose but it is society that has made it popular. Everyone who has read Shakespea...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 08:50:35
And your definition of identity was not exclusive with my definition of gender identity. Gender can still be different. As an aside, a definition is a conjecture, as is all language. We use syste...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 08:42:13
Can you imagine a world in which somebody wants to work but can't get a job? I think it is more significant than any individual contribution will ever be. Nobody has contributed more individually...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 08:38:32
Your arguments to date are: 1. If you think differently you're mental (to which I said, this does not follow) 2. It is baseless (to which I said, that's the whole point, it is undefined) You ...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 08:35:43
But you can't work without a job. I don't think it's unfeasible. I am answering the question. The answer is that everyone makes an individual contribution to social contributions. You just aren't...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 08:24:52
There isn't a new definition, they're not redefining anything. You can't redefine something undefined. Gender identity is personal, gender is factual. I'm pretty convinced at this point that 100%...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 08:19:42
Suppose that somebody can't engage in work because they have no capital and no job? I don't know that it is far from the topic, you asked: What are you actually out doing to better life for the...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 05:24:34
But that assumes that there IS a definition, which you first need to justify. A definition is a limit by definition. If expanding gender is troublesome, logically limiting it must be troublesome als...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-30 05:12:48
Then maybe you come from a position of privilege. I'm bringing them up because personal reflections regarding the impact of private lives are socially constructed. To assess our social impact and...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 07:40:15
I don't have a definition at all. I don't see why it matters in the slightest. Any attempt to define or limit gender is logically just as stupid as attempts to expand it, so I'm happy with gender iden...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 07:38:05
So you believe - I believe poor people are often exploited by a system. I can certainly answer all those questions for myself. I feel like the sort of people who get upset about those things have...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 06:41:16
There is equally little substantive about your notion that there is only one correct answer. It's based entirely on your definitions of male and female identity.
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 06:40:07
A lot of people are still poor, but the whole effort of society is to make things easier for the next generation. As a result it's natural each subsequent generation will seem a bit more conceited. In...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 06:24:23
They can figure it out, they just come to a different answer to your one.
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 06:23:08
Oh, and which generation was this? Because sex, money and popularity have always been popular with youth last I checked. In fairness: 1. Most of the founding fathers were hardly youth at the ti...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 06:11:29
Do you think gay marriage advocates are that (watch the language) because they worried about being identified as "married" as opposed to being in a civil union or something?
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 06:10:27
Female but not feminine. And I think that's an important distinction, because femininity/masculinity has little to do with gender identity and IS entirely based on those stereotypes that you hate. Gen...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 06:06:46
Certainly not one that hasn't always existed. There's nothing modern about it. Kids have always been apathetic. Personally I don't mind because society as a whole progresses. Most people today li...
A plague in modern society - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:57:00
Spoken like Plato himself.
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:56:09
Finding gender and finding gender identity are as different as finding sex and sexual identity. Gender is encoded in DNA, gender identity is not (so far as we know - the same question is also asked of...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:51:58
No I don't. You just perfectly explained natural rights - things you do because you can do them. Much of property law is based on the notion that people can claim property, which was once believed to ...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:18:39
Yum
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:18:19
So to you, the ability to have kids is basically what makes a woman female?
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:16:55
So do you believe gender identity is encoded in DNA? Funny that because people once said sexuality was encoded there too. It's not a strawman because the argument is the same under another title....
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:12:12
If you don't believe you have rights then you have no grounds to oppose the government doing what they want to you - you have no right to object. If you don't then you cannot expect the protectio...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:08:35
(still part of the waterslide - I never said it was in the tunnel bit)
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:07:24
Yeah but the aim of the game is to describe it in just one word :P Spoon.
Why I Don't Comment Often - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:06:47
I'll admit inconsistent but not hypocritical. The reason I'm inconsistent is that I strongly believe that rules should be interpreted as to their purpose more than their letter, and strict rubrics the...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:04:21
It never changed, they were just never male to begin with. Having male genitalia at birth is not the same as being male. They are in the same boat. Again, 20 years ago, people were laughing at ga...
Why I Don't Comment Often - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 05:00:35
At this point playing any sort of games about who's a worse offender or something is childish, so let's not get into that. It's about being constructive.
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 04:58:53
Too lazy to find your own thrills, huh? It's happened a few times in Germany in the last few years but I couldn't find the actual rape one. This was close to it though: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 04:55:01
Says the person who wants bathroom orgies to clearly be an important part of growing up. Gender is not merely physical appearance. The same arguments launched today against transgenders were laun...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 04:51:46
Governments are made up of collections of people. If people have rights and they cede them to a government, then clearly governments have rights. Personal attacks do not improve the quality of your ar...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 04:43:48
That's 3 words Ruler
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 04:42:56
Okay, couple things. If you want schools to be about anything except learning, I say what's the point of going to school? Society makes teenagers go to school for a reason, and while I know you h...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 04:36:36
The latter would be sexual assault. This was rape.
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-05-29 00:32:28
Then they have 24 hours to appeal to me as usual. Or, after banning, they can still email me.
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-28 15:03:03
I guess that's the difference between you and I - I don't think being physically near a naked person (usually one is not fully undressed on a toilet but IDK what your conventions might be) implies any...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-28 14:30:34
Just going to throw this out there - has America adopted cubicles yet, or do you all sit around a wide long-drop like they do in China or Japan? Because I was under the impression that just because yo...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-28 14:02:19
No, it's there because some people actually got raped inside waterslides. Predators look for any opportunity they can get. And let's face it, segregated bathrooms aren't even that strong a protection....
Proactive bans expanded to cover spam - Posted by admin 2016-05-28 13:54:15
Since the multi-account proactive system has been working pretty well, I've added in a simple check for spam accounts. Immediately the system identified about 50 accounts which do appear, on a manual ...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-28 13:20:30
I don't buy that argument any more than Germany having separate sliding times now for girls and boys on waterslides because apparently it's a breeding ground for rapists. I use a multigender bathroom ...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-28 12:47:05
I don't accept that but I still don't think it matters. Regardless of whether trans people exist or not, you can still share a bathroom with the opposite gender, I mean, who really cares? What's the h...
Transgender bathroom law - Posted by admin 2016-05-28 10:46:18
An end to bathroom gender segregation in schools etc? Honestly I don't see what the big deal is. Either way, segregated or not, it's perfectly fine. All the issues I've heard around this topic so...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-27 10:44:07
Swing
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-27 03:55:44
Shiny
Why I Don't Comment Often - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 13:19:12
I think that's reasonable to an extent. Sometimes I've found it kinda hard to judge stuff so maybe a moderation rubric could be worked out. Just let me finish the community judging thing first th...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 05:45:13
Yours only because a system of rights exists. That's a socially defined function.
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 05:39:23
Sure, if you choose to exit from or not participate in the society, you have to surrender the advantages of that society, like keeping your private property. Still makes sense to me. Why should the go...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 05:33:27
I don't think governments do either. Society as a whole willingly gives up the money.
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 05:28:30
Control the money, control the people. Economics is a social science after all. If a government were to hypothetically destroy all guns, they'd ensure the freedom from getting shot in the face wi...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 05:11:30
So a co-op doesn't control money? If so, how do you think they pay for public goods?
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 05:08:09
They govern expenditure. And a concept can have a real world corollary. Something like "protection against people shooting you" is both a concept and an implied activity.
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 04:54:54
I think it is, and you need to watch your language. Saying "s**t" in every second post is not acceptable. The reason I think so is that most of your other points are directly derived fr...
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 04:45:34
You could make a new thread. Just saying. If you want to have a go at liberalism you really don't need to derail a free speech discussion to do so.
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 04:29:22
I think this is the crux of your point. Personally I think there's a greater diversity of opinion than ever before, because people are more informed thanks to the internet and such. Social order need ...
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 04:24:52
You do have a habit of repeating material as if it will bring anything. We're talking at cross purposes. You're claiming governments are bad. My claim is that government == self determination of ...
Anarchism - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:59:59
Anarchy is possible but it's not too fun. People need to be able to collectively set rules to govern norms of behavior. In most cases, this leads to the provision of public goods, which cannot happen ...
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:57:16
But some limitations are prosocial, some are antisocial. As I explained, the best interests of society is what it may be derived from. No, I believe in social self-determination over and above in...
Jump in Debates - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:53:44
If the thread's not for me that kinda inherently shuts me out. If anyone I'd think I was the biggest stakeholder. For what it's worth I've discussed your opinions at length before. Your first ide...
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:46:51
Because limitations on free speech are justified as a principle. That's what a principle is. I justify society regulating itself because I believe in self-determination by society. There you go.
Jump in Debates - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:44:18
And you'd be wrong, but those other people would still need to go through that feature request process. Trying to shut me out of the conversation for mentioning that is disingenuous.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:41:26
Sure, if a dictatorship was the government, I'd want them policing the internet. If you look back to the OP though, the OP's only two options were no policing, and democratic policing. Between those o...
Jump in Debates - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:40:13
Then what was it for?
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:38:28
There's a preview button for that, as well as a feature request page.
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:37:28
Sure, and in general, I would have respected that quality in him. Current US presidential candidates generally seem to lack it.
Jump in Debates - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:35:47
Your options are to make a feature request, or to make your own site. Simple. Appealing to me has no weight anymore.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:33:09
The second thing is procedure. A dictatorship would function on the same principle of internet policing, as would any other form of government. It's not relevant to this thread to question what form o...
Jump in Debates - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:24:47
Sure, and there have been rare occasions where I've found such material, but the complaint is almost always a lack of users, not an overabundance of features. In every case where you've made this clai...
Jump in Debates - Posted by admin 2016-05-26 03:14:11
I feel like the main person whose expectations it failed to meet was really yours; from almost everyone else the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. And yes, I do track/collect it whenever I fi...
Great achte minute article - Posted by admin 2016-05-25 18:14:31
This here is a really good article that I 100% agree with, and was something I found myself when I was more active: http://www.achteminute.de/en/20160427/die-wudc-wealthy-uptown-debaters-championship/...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-25 13:29:01
Among other reasons because it's not been put by anybody on the feature request list. And because as you know, I oppose it for reasons of moderation.
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-25 13:27:50
I don't think he was one of the worst. He certainly isn't the best leader I can think of either, but denigrating any quality because Hitler had it is the epitome of Youtube-comment-argument. You might...
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-25 13:25:10
But if you define "government" as "an agency controlled by society" then it isn't so. Your only claim is that this definition is not how governments operate.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-25 05:57:19
This is all questions on the process of democracy. Procedural issues (which I don't concede) still fail to trump the principle of a general social right to control human media (that is to say, in this...
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-25 05:54:51
Hitler certainly had that quality over many modern politicians, even though he was also implicated in covering up plenty of his more vile activities from the German public of the time.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 12:39:46
Law tends to be written by elected officials, who represent people through a voting mechanism. If people don't like the law they can vote to change it. I'd prefer that to any group that is not account...
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 10:54:54
I don't see why management structure is the problem - accountability is. Governments are accountable to all people, private companies to their shareholders, private orgs to their members, and vigilant...
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 05:23:29
The dictionary definition. Either there must be lawlessness (as in your western vigilantes) due to an existing lack of government control, or such control must be opposed.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 05:09:35
Well no - it has to be extrajudicial (no due process etc) and motivated by anarchy (ie your dissatisfaction with the FBI) to fit that definition. What worries me is the extrajudicial part.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 05:01:51
So basically, vigilante justice?
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 04:50:17
But for child abuse, such images wouldn't exist in the first place. I think it's fair to say most people oppose child abuse. What vessel would you suggest is better suited to combating the problem of ...
Stag - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 04:36:08
For the public record, this user has been banned for trolling, profanity, and in the past, multiaccounting. He has also been warned for bullying (x3) and posting unsuitable content. It's up to th...
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-05-24 02:53:32
Maybe, but people whine about "biased" topics.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-23 10:55:41
Sure the internet is a global system, but anything PUT on the internet is controlled by a country. The internet's fairly meaningless without websites and stuff.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-23 06:02:25
And newspapers aren't published world wide?
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-23 05:29:35
Sure. So if a state should be allowed to limit what is printed in a newspaper, the same standard should apply to what they limit on the internet, IMHO.
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-23 01:08:50
Do you honestly believe people should be free to post child porn on the internet?
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-22 04:33:23
Beginning
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-22 01:15:16
Not really. I'd encourage those countries to change their laws but freedom of speech has always been limited in some ways. I don't see why the internet should be any particular exception. Use of techn...
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-05-22 01:12:26
A few weeks from now. I'll be trying a shorter rego period.
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-21 09:02:48
Empty
Freedom on the Internet - Posted by admin 2016-05-21 09:02:24
Governments already censor and take control. I support it. Just because it's the internet doesn't mean existing laws shouldn't apply there.
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-05-21 04:59:22
Well DDO seems to be showing no interest in putting up a CA so it seems like it will be just me again : Oh well.
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-21 04:55:00
Nah Celestial
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-20 21:21:48
Isn;t that caught then under the already-existing provision that judges should consider the arguments made by all sides?
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-20 15:59:56
Personally I feel the whole discussion about burdens isn't too relevant as very few poor votes will actually be caught by it. At the point where somebody is engaging with burdens of proof that judgeme...
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-20 15:56:16
Oh wait, hang on, big loophole. Add in subclause: or d) The argument is not relevant to the resolution
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-20 15:54:48
What you're describing is a burden of rejoinder. How about this clause? : Burdens Judges should not award arguments in the debate on the basis of burdens or other standards to which debate...
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-20 15:49:05
Hillary Clinton isn't great because she's a conservative masquerading as a progressive. Donald Trump isn't great because he's a self-serving populist masquerading as a conservative. A great candi...
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-18 16:53:35
My definition of a burden is what a side needs to show in a debate. For pro, this is the resolution. For con, they can either knock down whatever argument/sandcastle pro has created, or try to build t...
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-18 12:20:29
I believe that you have failed to meet your burden therefore you cannot win the debate (irrespective of the material con has provided). I agree this is bad judging but this is not what a burden is. ...
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-18 05:59:35
I think @Ab_M 's solution is actually fairer for most resolutions. Con wins by default if pro does not prove their case, just as pro wins by default in a no-contest situation.
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-17 02:16:56
I've mentioned this before, but this is only true if you ignore negative freedoms.
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 10:03:04
You're given 3 possible options for topics at the start of the round. Secretly, you rank them 1,2,3, in order from the one you most want to do to least want to do. The number 3 option is vetoed, so ...
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 09:51:08
Which ones were bizarre? In the 2014 comp we let debaters choose their own motions so maybe that was why. The 2015 comp, whiteflame and I got together (as co-chief judges) and drafted a list...
WODC - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 07:42:55
It's the time of year where we start planning this. What would you like to see in this year's WODC?
Community Judging Standard - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 07:40:00
Inviting comment and suggestions for edits, removals and additions to these rules: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O2wnnYH-p-Zmm-I8fI9Boa1XpSiiobW0ZLpgRNvEv0Y/
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 06:06:39
Because crazy wild controversial choices are in vogue, so that's what people are being receptive to at the moment.
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 05:50:57
Gary Johnson's definitely a safer choice. I just think that if there's ever an election to pick a crazy wild controversial choice, it's probably this one.
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 05:40:25
He's ok for the one issue he's there to advance. Clearly more of a protest candidate than anything else. Honestly if I was in the USA I'd probably vote for Jill Stein - not that I 100% agree with her ...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 05:29:43
Only invading other countries when "one country was violating a major UN order for one country to stop doing X to another country, if stuff like sanctions didn't work."
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-16 05:07:27
On a related topic, Lessig recently did a AMA on reddit's debate board thingy: https://www.reddit.com/r/Debate/comments/4jh6uq/i_am_lessig_here_in_rdebate_not_out_playing_with/
U.S. presidential election - Posted by admin 2016-05-15 16:46:09
Like most people, I'm not a fan of either.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-15 16:38:30
The one immediately before it. Edeb8 protip: If you click on your name on the post where you're unsure which one I'm replying to, it will take you to the post I am replying to and put a green out...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-15 13:12:09
And the US, being a "model player" has of course always done that since 1992, right?
New Issues to add - Posted by admin 2016-05-15 03:49:24
These suggestions have been added now.
An actually hard game - Posted by admin 2016-05-13 20:03:38
My browser crashed because of it for some reason. I'm guessing edge doesn't like it much. My thought is chrome won't tolerate it forever either.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-13 09:26:25
I still think international trade is cool but I can see why many in the US feel this way.
An actually hard game - Posted by admin 2016-05-13 09:24:36
Warning: game requires flash
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-13 09:23:06
If you need a practical example, look to any given open source software.
What happened here? - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 20:28:45
More than likely.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 18:31:25
Oh shoot, this is the WW1 edition. Hang on, there was a second one somewhere...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 18:29:40
Not being involved in a lot of wars sounds like a great idea to me ;)
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 18:29:12
It's actually worth reading btw
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 18:27:29
https://archive.org/details/germanwhitebooko00germuoft
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 18:23:42
We can argue what is illegal all day, though your defensiveness on the issues is telling. But you asked what is morally ok, not legally ok. Your original question was whether they have been a mod...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 17:51:30
The 2011 agreement was a pretty civil way of resolving it honestly. US is just antagonizing China in the media now in the same way they did to Iran 10 years ago. The public wants people to be afraid o...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 17:49:52
So then invade Argentina before China. Yeah China've laid claim, I was saying they laid claim rightfully and before any other current claims. Tell me what about claiming an island chain is illega...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 16:38:05
Yeah, sure. The Kunduz hospital airstrike. And before you say, oh that was a mistake, that's not a point. The point is that it was morally questionable, in clear violation of international law, and no...
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 16:37:01
Disagree in that I feel like people are motivated to improve their own lives (and thus stimulate the economy and technological progression) even when they do not need to compete against others. I can ...
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 08:48:37
Market socialism for sure. The threat of stagnation is more sustainable than the threat of social stratification.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 03:33:56
So because 2 nations have taken actions you disagree with... oh boy. Do you think the USA has not done any of the things you accuse Russia and China of? If you lived in Nazi Germany you'd probably...
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-12 03:23:52
I think it is economically socialist. If you want to have a broader discussion of communism I don't see how it relates to the OP.
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-11 10:02:05
What would you say is the difference between communism as you understand it an socialism?
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-11 04:05:32
Largely agree. It's all about the metric, ie what people want the economy to do. That's a moral decision.
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-11 04:04:39
It's a political system, not an economic one
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-11 04:04:11
Russia hasn't annexed Ukraine, it has annexed Crimea. It has done so to seize strategic ports and show solidarity for those Crimeans who wish to become part of Russia. Much like the US has no nee...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-11 03:55:18
Not all whites are the same, not all non-whites are either. Racists are race-conscious, everyone else is not.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 19:04:49
Why is it "white world" vs "poor world"? Your language is confrontational and not cooperative with everything you write. Aren't we all humans?
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 19:03:04
I think you yourself noted that Iran's interest was more spurred by economics. The Gulf War started a new conventional war and did not stop any. Roughly 6k innocent civilians were killed who did not n...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 18:42:00
Of course it didn't. The Gulf War didn't solve anything. Kuwait is still corrupt and Iraq is still mostly ruled by tyrannical fanatics. If your assumption is people won't fight over a territory t...
Possible Outage Warning - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 11:56:46
Edeb8 is hopefully going to be upgraded to allow us to use HTTPS soon. This will mean: 1. A more secure site 2. Higher rankings in Google 3. The ability for us to use additional web browser c...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 10:23:49
Sure, "less likely" I'd agree with. People will naturally target those who they think will be the easiest targets after all, since that way they're more likely to get what they want. Wh...
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 10:13:39
I think the emphasis in socialism is more on equitable distribution, not maximal utility, while you're right in saying in capitalism it's on maximizing gross product. Socialism assumes capital accumul...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 05:09:05
That just proves the model of attacking bullies doesn't work. 2 wrongs will never make a right no matter how much you spin it.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 05:07:47
That enlarges wars, esp. in western countries where war is relatively rare anyway, but its rarely the initial cause.
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 05:01:48
It depends on the goals of the country at the time, but in the long term socialism is more sustainable. Most economies work best with some mixed model. I don't think ownership model matters a lot...
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 04:52:41
By that metric, capitalism is better.
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 04:47:15
shoes
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 04:46:46
By that particular metric, socialism no doubt.
New Issues to add - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 04:43:37
I use that site a lot, many of them are already on the list.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 04:43:05
Ok, so would you say that if Russia annexes Crimea and arms militia attacking the Ukraine - both of which are indebted to Russia - that the USA should attack Russia? Or are you applying a different st...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 03:48:53
Oh. So if Hussain is being a bully the US can bully too? Yeah, great precedent. /irony
The best and most successful economic system - Posted by admin 2016-05-10 03:47:18
Best at achieving what metric?
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 22:00:09
Oh, you mean like people who believe that the best diplomacy is pointing more guns around, instead of cooperation? Yeah, I don't see the build up of more arms as solving that problem. Passive nonviole...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 20:36:06
This is how wars happen. People wage war, usually, to compete over resources. Take away a person's means to live and you force them to fight. If you happen to have a big army, it doesn't matter, they'...
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 20:22:40
Glitter
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 18:32:09
If you don't share your food, it doesn't matter how many guns you hold to a hungry man's face.
Word Association II - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 05:36:54
Bringing back this classic: http://www.edeb8.com/forum/Games/54/0 Starting with the word: "New"
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 05:30:46
Yip :)
What happened here? - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 05:30:25
Nope, sorry, that happens when I update the database but accidentally forget to explicitly tell it not to update the online flag, which I have to do each time. At some point I should change it so...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-09 03:00:23
I really need to remember to switch accounts lol. I keep the other one open a lot nowadays for something else.
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-05-07 16:53:07
There's a certain irony in using a war to demonstrate a model of the end of war.
ELO score - Posted by admin 2016-05-07 07:08:56
Sure. Been about a year since it's happened in online debates though. When I started out online (about 6ish years ago) I used to lose a good 50% of the time. It comes with experience a bit. Of co...
New Issues to add - Posted by admin 2016-05-07 05:51:17
Quick comments: "That the United States should decrease its military budget" - agree "That we should use Voter IDs to protect against voter fraud" - agree "That priva...
Existence of God - Posted by admin 2016-05-06 03:52:23
Same answer, different mechanism. Just because a concept is hard does not make it true. If you absolutely want me to play a total devil's advocate, a God who could defy logic would be greater tha...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-06 02:36:08
Inflation means more money chasing fewer goods. On a macro scale, employers invest less and people earn more with minimum wages. In order to believe minimum wages cause inflation, you have to believe ...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-06 02:36:02
Because if workers are less employable, you should pay the remaining workers more, not less, as they're more valuable. Lower minimum wages just create a race to the bottom in such a scenario, and you ...
Existence of God - Posted by admin 2016-05-06 02:21:21
The very fact you and @Krazy disagree about this says something about the weirdness of the notion of omnipotence. For me anyway, it's far simpler to believe in "being good" rather than havin...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-05 02:43:15
Repeating a previous post, verbatim, doesn't lend credence to an point. I tend to rebut substantive material as general themes or assumptions, rather than specific lines. As far as "picking examp...
Existence of God - Posted by admin 2016-05-05 01:52:09
Many reasons, simplest being that omnipotence negates itself (like, creating rocks heavier than it can lift).
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-04 08:12:02
Calling other viewpoints "stupid" and your own as "making sense" is not an argument. The point of debating is to justify your opinions with logic or analysis, not so much emotive l...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-04 04:33:14
Your point, "it's only reasonable", is an assertion. It fundamentally assumes that giving wages is a gift, not an obligation. If wages are an obligation then there is no reason to assume the...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-03 04:00:31
I think it's inevitable that university etc will increasingly be required for work, that's just the nature of progress - there's more to learn now than before. If we accept that work is going to be ne...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-03 03:44:26
But if you believe technological advances and low-skill, low-wage competition from overseas have limited the number of minimum wage jobs in the U.S. and prevented employers from doling out raises, the...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-03 03:43:22
Low skilled workers don't have much of a future working anyway, don't you think? As tech becomes cheaper, there's an ever-decreasing price of labour for those with low skills, and eventually it just b...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-03 03:40:19
So do you support the kind of sweatshops that have historically been common in places like China or Bangladesh or some of the west African countries, then? Isn't that employers deciding a wage?
Existence of God - Posted by admin 2016-05-03 03:36:24
I believe no God exists, because I have a logical problem with omnipotence. The concept makes no sense.
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-02 05:30:54
Yeah, I don't like labels like "capitalist" for me. I'm a very practical person economically and rigid labels don't help with that much. If you force me to pick though, I'm a liberal capital...
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-02 03:49:26
Personally I think the impact would be negative, especially in the short run with sticky wages and stuff complicating things. I guess I wouldn't say a minimum wage is necessary for capitalism, bu...
New feature: time extensions - Posted by admin 2016-05-01 08:02:32
Short on time on your debate? With this latest update, and the permission of your opponent, you can now request and receive extra time to complete your round. :)
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-05-01 06:50:16
I'd disagree with both of those impacts. Minimum wages, in my view, do not cause inflation. As for more new jobs, basically all you'd see is less outsourcing, meaning less specialization in the labour...
Live debate this weekend - Posted by admin 2016-05-01 06:17:24
Unfortunately bsh1 just pulled out entirely now. Which is such a shame because I had such a good case XD Oh well. :(
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-04-30 15:04:58
People would frequently be paid less than the federal minimum wage. Duh.
U.S. Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2016-04-29 04:24:42
Here the minimum wage currently varies a bit depending on your age and a few other things but for most people, it's a little over $15/hour. This is barely liveable given what goods cost here, but ok i...
あなたのいずれかが、アニメが好きですか? - Posted by admin 2016-04-29 04:17:28
I'm not an expert on internet law, doubly so for what's legal in the USA, but just as an example, NZ has strict laws against things like incitement to suicide and other extreme forms of cyberbullying,...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-27 02:03:59
Fine, since nobody else is doing it, check the features and bugs section
Live debate this weekend - Posted by admin 2016-04-27 02:03:26
I think it's good, but then again I'm a technology focused person XD
あなたのいずれかが、アニメが好きですか? - Posted by admin 2016-04-26 14:10:46
More or less what @Bifurcations said - I guess I'd only add, the context of the matter would be taken into account. If I feel any post is obstructing my ability to moderate, I mean, what else can I do...
Live debate this weekend - Posted by admin 2016-04-24 04:05:03
Unfortunately bsh1 had to cancel for today, we should have the debate in a week's time instead.
Judging leaderboard change - Posted by admin 2016-04-23 05:56:56
The system used for ranking judges has changed slightly. 1-point decisions now no longer count towards the total in the multiplication (feedback X judgments) used primarily to determine rank. Thi...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-23 05:32:21
Aff wins. Interesting that you consider draws a "feature", especially one that convinces you to not be part of a site. Oh well, maybe one day people will suggest it on the feature request th...
あなたのいずれかが、アニメが好きですか? - Posted by admin 2016-04-23 00:23:57
Yes. I also gave a warning to the member involved earlier in the thread.
Survey Results - Posted by admin 2016-04-22 10:01:24
Did you like the survey? Is there anything that stands out for you about it?
Survey Results - Posted by admin 2016-04-22 10:00:34
Recently we ran the edeb8 member survey. While the response rate was not as high as I would have hoped, I think it gives a few interesting insights into the overall feelings of the community. The...
Live debate this weekend - Posted by admin 2016-04-21 11:37:47
If you're doing nothing important at 1am EST on Sunday morning, please consider watching or judging what will go down as a live video debate for the ages. THE COMPETITORS Pro = "admin"...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-20 02:29:37
Yes -- and by the way, your point (2) already exists :P But it's heartening to read that sort of thing because I'm sensing a lot of common themes here, and so hopefully we can build on those.
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-20 02:11:22
I LOVE what's going on in this thread BTW, great to see this kind of level of discourse on the topic. Seems not so long ago that I was really struggling to convince another website that people should ...
Feature Announcement: Lincoln-Douglas debates - Posted by admin 2016-04-20 01:47:31
Edeb8 makes history once again by being the first debate website to properly support Lincoln-Douglas format debating. For those who don't know, LD is a popular format in the United States. It's n...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-18 15:34:41
Does that incentivise what judging styles are popular over what judging styles are most constructive and helpful?
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-18 12:18:48
Possibly, though I'd prefer if it was the debaters, not just the site at large.
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-18 12:16:47
I think you're sort of confusing the mechanics of a debate and a judgment. So like, from a code perspective, each debater is assigned a number, and the system at the end of each debate determines a wi...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-18 12:02:22
Maybe. Debaters would have to wait for me to manually do that on every debate though. Which honestly I'm trying to avoid.
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-18 11:57:02
How would judge ratings affect scores in such a scenario?
Postmodern art - Posted by admin 2016-04-18 02:28:38
Is modern abstract art really art? Or are people just profiting from the gullible? XD
WODC? - Posted by admin 2016-04-17 15:37:39
Whoops, totally forgot to answer this. Yes there will. It will happen later this year.
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-17 14:54:12
Isn't the whole point of debating that there are no draws? That was the first thing I learnt when I did my accreditation training, that debate is set apart from most other competitive sports in that d...
Debating podcast - Posted by admin 2016-04-17 02:38:22
Since there seems to be some interest in this, let's make a group to discuss it! http://www.edeb8.com/group/Edeb8+Podcast+Group
Debating podcast - Posted by admin 2016-04-14 07:57:43
I'd be in favour. I had a similar idea myself some years ago.
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-13 23:33:25
Isn't it already clear that vote bombs are given to voters whose judgements have more opinion than analysis, then?
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-13 23:31:55
I had a similar idea once where votes could be removed by the mutual consent of both debaters.
Some People... - Posted by admin 2016-04-13 15:56:01
Something tells me this conversation didn't happen.
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-13 15:54:20
I also would challenge anyone to come up with a better algorithmic solution to assigning points to votes for "quality" than the present system. I say algorithmic because: 1. I'd rather wor...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-13 15:51:49
But if, in the second scenario, there is one bad vote and nobody else votes ... how else is the system to determine the winner? By coin toss? Is that more fair?
Somebody do this debate: - Posted by admin 2016-04-12 06:57:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0FHEEuMvuI
Edeb8 member survey! - Posted by admin 2016-04-12 06:42:29
I put a link to it on the dashboard (just underneath the debate panel)
Edeb8 member survey! - Posted by admin 2016-04-12 06:20:33
4 XD
Edeb8 member survey! - Posted by admin 2016-04-12 03:16:39
Thanks! Would be nice to get a bit more than 3 responses though.
Prosperity and Poverty in Countries - Posted by admin 2016-04-12 03:14:33
I think it's a combination of about 4 things 1. Trade Closed off or isolated societies tend to develop technology slower. This has a logical explanation - the more minds work on developing tech...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-11 01:18:27
The inherent problem with this is that there are a LOT of formats.
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-11 00:20:07
I don't see why that follows. This idea that everyone should contribute with respect for their means isn't entitlements in my view, it's simple fairness to ask of people what they can afford.
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 22:34:48
If I thought taxes should be higher on the rich, would you say that's part of the entitlement culture that you oppose?
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 12:57:31
Why apply a different standard to government?
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 10:57:25
Then wouldn't it be fair to assign points based on the quality of the judgment? ;)
Edeb8 member survey! - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 10:22:45
Here's an actual linky version: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/2704904/Edeb8-member-survey
Edeb8 member survey! - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 10:21:52
The features and bugs thingy is great for finding out what you guys want. But I think it's time we did a more general survey of what you all think of the site overall and stuff! So... here goes :...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 10:19:57
By the same logic, would you also support banning routine forfeiters or those with very poor debating skills?
あなたのいずれかが、アニメが好きですか? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 06:38:08
XD
あなたのいずれかが、アニメが好きですか? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 06:34:46
No problem. And yes, at present that's the case. The reason is that for me to have to go on Google translate every single time something is posted in another language would be a big job for me! T...
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 06:27:37
That would be a very simple progressive tax system on income. The issue is actually rarely connected to the precise percentages used. It's more about where you can hide that income. For example i...
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 05:55:14
This only holds true if the tax system is full of loopholes. The better solution, usually, is to have a simple tax system with minimal loopholes so everyone pays a fair amount.
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 05:54:18
So your problem then is with free riders. In that case, why aren't you donating to edeb8's patreon?
あなたのいずれかが、アニメが好きですか? - Posted by admin 2016-04-10 05:47:40
Just remember, according to the terms of use ALL posts MUST be in understandable English. Somehow I don't think this qualifies. Sorry. Take this as a warning.
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-09 04:51:16
I get into a lot of trouble whenever I say this, but I think unemployment is both a desirable outcome of market efficiency, as well as an undesirable outcome of market inefficiency. What's often misse...
What do you actually believe? - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 22:12:47
1. Being kind to others rules, always 2. Demonstrate empathy 3. The environment should be protected 4. Peace is always superior to war 5. You don't need religion to be a good person The i...
Judging: How should it be done? - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 22:06:55
I had about 4 goals in mind when making the current system: - Fairness. Basically no debates should be decided on the basis of very poor judgements. - Encouragement. As many people should judge...
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 21:59:34
@DHS15608 @cooldudebro I think you're both basically making the same point so I'll answer both of you at once. So, in a free market, there are tons of things that can happen that are not personal...
Legal Polygamy? - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 21:41:13
Well, you have moral consistency, I'll give you that. I think people impose these moral standards for a reason. Just like we don't allow marriages to kids because we want to protect them.
What do you actually believe? - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 13:59:32
In 5 bullet points, describe the most important elements of whatever your personal faith or philosophy is. Let's see how much of a cool variety of this stuff we have here!
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 10:34:39
Had to do a lot of tests there to catch a few very tough bugs! While I was at it I fixed a few bugs to do with the recent friend activity feed on the home page too, and brought back at symbols before ...
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 09:55:02
@admin and again...
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 09:53:09
@admin and again
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 09:52:34
@admin still testing
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 09:09:37
@admin blah blah blah
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 09:04:50
@admin keep ignoring, still running some tests
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 08:59:06
admin ignore this post everyone
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 06:06:16
BTW, 3 small recent bug fixes: > "Start drafting your next post" no longer appears in CX during video debates > Improved appearance of text debate toolbar when header borders ar...
Changes to email notifications - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 06:05:12
Thanks to a recent change, email notifications will now send about 500% faster, albeit at the cost of a slight delay in sending the messages of up to a few minutes (but hopefully for most cases it wil...
Legal Polygamy? - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 05:20:57
Should I be allowed to marry a 5 year old, in your view?
Giving up on edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 05:15:51
Haha. It was just a joke XD
Is the GOP the party of the rich? - Posted by admin 2016-04-08 05:15:32
In my view - and I can't speak for Bifurcations - but that's exactly right. Free markets tend to favour those who can control them, and in economics, money is a form of power, for better or worse. I w...
Voting Needed Thread - Posted by admin 2016-04-06 10:53:30
Just the URL is enough to add an image. There is no need for a code, it detects image formats by their extension, so the image URL needs to end in ".jpg" or similar. To check what codes...
Giving up on edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-04-01 04:58:48
Edeb8 sucks, it's pretty much dead. Nobody posts on the forums anymore, groups are pretty useless, judgments are mostly vote-bombs, all the debates are low quality, and there's hardly any debates anyw...
I'm fixing a lot recently - Posted by admin 2016-03-29 16:09:49
Yeah, so... YouTube has dropped support for webcam uploads. Which sucks. And also, videos weren't uploading at all in video debates because Google changed their APIs again. I've updated the site ...
I'm Back - Posted by admin 2016-03-27 05:21:45
Not too bad. Keeping this website running lol. And you?
I'm Back - Posted by admin 2016-03-26 23:26:56
Hey, one of our earlier members :) Nice to see you again!
Happy easter! - Posted by admin 2016-03-26 23:26:16
Bunnies and chocolate eggs for all!
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-03-14 08:50:28
And if you say nukes are not useless, then you're saying you advocate the mass murder of people using nuclear radiation. I guess this is a fundamental difference between you and me because I don'...
Which was your favorite debate on this site? - Posted by admin 2016-03-13 05:24:30
Often the best debates is a bit of a personal thing, but which one did you enjoy the most?
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-03-12 12:33:41
I'm pretty sure the US narrative at the time was that the Soviets were VERY threatening with their nuclear weapons. And that Stalin was a ruthless dictator who'd gladly and manically kill everyone jus...
Fixed Image Uploads In Debates - Posted by admin 2016-03-11 07:41:21
Yeah, updated to make Imgur happy. Warning: while I've forced the change for debate arguments, you may need to clear your cache before the fix works on other editors on the site. Most people tend...
Fixed Groups - Posted by admin 2016-03-11 00:17:59
Which were suffering from a serious bug that nobody else seemed to notice. Would be cool to see groups be used more :) A bit like the forums I guess, they have a lot of potential. Should hav...
Iran Elections - Posted by admin 2016-03-10 09:41:30
Totally agreed about the guardian council BTW. It's by nature a conservative institution but it's not really serving the best interests of Iran as a country any more.
Will the MH370 be found? - Posted by admin 2016-03-06 21:17:38
... within the next ten years? Or is still looking for the wreckage a total waste?
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-03-05 21:41:10
Funny, 25 years ago the US was saying the same about Russia.
greetings - Posted by admin 2016-03-05 21:39:33
Hi back :)
Top Inventions - Posted by admin 2016-03-05 08:15:43
I thought the big one missing was algebra, so I guess we're sorta similar XD
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-03-05 04:15:03
Yes, though NATO type governments have also refused to rule it out as just using them ad hoc. Would you consider nuclear disarmament and non-proliferation deals attempts to destroy nuclear deterr...
Preemptive strikes and nukes - Posted by admin 2016-03-04 22:24:12
Should nations keep the option of a nuclear "first strike" open in foreign policy? Only China and India, among the nuclear powers, have ruled it out at present.
ELO score - Posted by admin 2016-03-04 22:20:45
Also, there are no draws on edeb8, and I use a more complex system for calculating 4-way debates, but this is basically it.
ELO score - Posted by admin 2016-03-04 22:19:29
This is all based on Prof. Elo's original equation. Elo was a Hungarian statistician and chess player. The same system is used for chess or tennis or debating. It measures statistical probability o...
Top Inventions - Posted by admin 2016-03-04 05:00:28
I was just reading this list of the so-called "top 10 inventions that changed the world": http://www.livescience.com/33749-top-10-inventions-changed-world.html What would you put as you...
Least favorite music - Posted by admin 2016-03-02 22:20:03
Alright, what's one music genre you DON'T like much? Be sure to +1 any genres you agree with :)
The "Licentiate" vicepresident scandal - Posted by admin 2016-02-28 12:27:03
That, as per usual, politicians do not always tell the truth :)
Is Martial Law considered a tyrannical rule? - Posted by admin 2016-02-28 12:26:04
I'd also say yes. Taking away liberty doesn't buy security.
Iran Elections - Posted by admin 2016-02-27 08:14:23
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-election-vote-idUSKCN0VZ0E7 Will Iran move closer to the president or the supreme leader? I guess we'll find out soon! I love elections. They're so exc...
Apple - Posted by admin 2016-02-26 11:05:49
I think the point was, the homosexuals who would be subjected to study in such times would be the ones who were least able to control their sexual desires and keep them under wraps. Of course then the...
Clickbait headlines - Posted by admin 2016-02-26 11:02:36
Make up some! Bonus if they're debate related. Like this: One weird old hack to tell if your opponents are squirreling or not.
Cost arguments - Posted by admin 2016-02-26 10:45:32
One thing I was always taught is that cost is a decent support argument, but will rarely carry as substantive. The main reason why is because of one of two things: 1. Either the opposition can ...
Cost arguments - Posted by admin 2016-02-25 03:27:10
Just thought I'd share this user profile - read the bio: http://www.edeb8.com/profile/Bifurcations/ What do you think about the use of cost as a prime focus of a debate argument?
Apple - Posted by admin 2016-02-24 10:12:35
Anyone here use a Mac? iPhone? What do you think of Tim Cook?
Apple - Posted by admin 2016-02-24 10:12:35
Anyone here use a Mac? iPhone? What do you think of Tim Cook?
Legal Polygamy? - Posted by admin 2016-02-24 10:10:11
I'll let my brother speak for himself if he wants to since he's on this site. My view on this is that governments should use social policy where a clear benefit can be justified, and marriage is ...
Legal Polygamy? - Posted by admin 2016-02-23 09:47:34
Should somebody be allowed to be married to multiple people at the same time? My brother and I have a disagreement on this so I thought I'd open it up for discussion!
Is there an afterlife? - Posted by admin 2016-02-22 05:56:59
Operation forum revival is go!
Gene Editing in Humans - Posted by admin 2016-02-22 05:27:54
The usual argument is that it exacerbates inequality.
Gene Editing in Humans - Posted by admin 2016-02-21 00:37:19
The risk is that, should things continue to develop, what could governments do to stop someone who might discover how to make superhumans? (for want of a better word). Surely people would try it! ...
Gene Editing in Humans - Posted by admin 2016-02-20 21:54:33
The technology is still some ways off but there are numerous diseases scientists would love to treat in people! Is this a slippery slope to designer babies or could it potentially save millions of liv...
New Badges - Posted by admin 2016-02-20 09:11:58
Also, while I was at it, I just fixed that random bug with 4-way debates that's cropped up recently on the site a few times.
Operation: Revive the forums - Posted by admin 2016-02-20 08:09:51
So yeah ... I'm sure everyone's noticed the forums are pretty dead. I've not always been a fan of forums when they detract from debate, but a little more activity would be nice. :) I'm launching ...
New Badges - Posted by admin 2016-02-20 08:01:45
Check them out: http://www.edeb8.com/images/badges/birthday.png Birthday Badge This badge is for everyone who logs in to edeb8 on their birthday! This badge also requires your birthday to be actu...
New Members Thread: Welcome to EDEB8.com! - Posted by admin 2016-01-28 08:05:07
Welcome :)
Experement forum - Posted by admin 2016-01-27 01:53:29
Congrats! :D
Judging Test Debate - Posted by admin 2016-01-25 13:07:31
Near the start of February, the update for the new badges will launch, and edeb8 will see its first ever judging test! Here's how it works: > I will post a debate - arguing both sides (it's ...
Debating is still fun, right? - Posted by admin 2016-01-25 05:57:50
Can we do it after Feb 18th? I have a birthday then and I'm doing a lot of stuff between now and then, with hiking and stuff.
Debating is still fun, right? - Posted by admin 2016-01-25 05:23:51
I'm still here. Just sayin'.
Raging Forfeits - Posted by admin 2016-01-23 02:31:08
It's an optional feature anyway though. :
Raging Forfeits - Posted by admin 2016-01-22 01:37:32
Yeah, it is annoying. What can we do about it?
The state of edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-01-15 08:22:48
It was a hangover like thing, not a drunk like thing, if that makes sense
The state of edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-01-15 04:43:42
You need to register beforehand who will speak in what position(s). Since we'd already registered him as the reply speaker for that debate we were screwed.
The state of edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-01-15 04:29:57
Yes because we have reply speeches in New Zealand, and although he'd done his first speech, he was still due to give a reply.
The state of edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-01-15 03:00:58
My team had to forfeit a debate once half-way through in real life because one of my teammates passed out. Had been drinking heavily the night before. Was pretty embarrassing.
The state of edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-01-15 02:06:49
We already don't put such debates on the homepage etc for non-logged-in users. Trouble with deleting them outright is that some users may nonetheless want the points etc when somebody forfeits to...
The state of edeb8 - Posted by admin 2016-01-14 13:19:21
With the "state of the union" type presidential speech probably inspiring many Americans, I thought I'd explain how I think edeb8 is doing, what's working, and what isn't. As many will ...
An AMA worth reading - Posted by admin 2016-01-13 13:01:51
https://www.reddit.com/r/Debate/comments/40n4r5/im_steve_sestanovich_ama/ For anyone remotely interested in Russian politics, esp. foreign policy, this is pretty good.
5 Dimensional Policial Compass - Posted by admin 2016-01-12 11:28:37
I'm not anarchist either though. That would probably have been a negative percentage on the authoritarian scale. 0% is middle on this, remember?
5 Dimensional Policial Compass - Posted by admin 2016-01-10 00:05:16
Their wording is pretty careless in any event. The percentages can probably be explained by my leaning towards civil rights and collective democracy, and my own flavor of liberal socialism.
5 Dimensional Policial Compass - Posted by admin 2016-01-09 18:41:47
I'm not sure what this test is on about either really XD. I mean, seriously... Liberalism refers to acceptance of historically illegal or immoral social practices or customs. Do these people...
5 Dimensional Policial Compass - Posted by admin 2016-01-09 15:40:11
As I said: You are a: Communist Isolationist Bleeding-Heart Liberal Collectivism score: 83% Authoritarianism score: 0% Internationalism score: -50% Tribalism score: -83% Liberalis...
5 Dimensional Policial Compass - Posted by admin 2016-01-09 15:21:59
I got this: You are a: Communist Isolationist Bleeding-Heart Liberal Collectivism score: 83% Authoritarianism score: 0% Internationalism score: -50% Tribalism score: -83% Liberalism sco...
Happy new year! - Posted by admin 2015-12-31 11:24:31
It's new year's here in NZ right now and it's awesome. Pretty cool that edeb8 is still going since 2013! Looking forward to a great year ahead. Thanks to all members!
Sexist language - Posted by admin 2015-12-30 11:21:59
He was a multiaccount of another banned user, RationalMadman.
Sexist language - Posted by admin 2015-12-29 15:11:49
It's curious that in languages where nouns are gendered, such accusations are almost never made. "Oh, school is a feminine word? That's so sexist!"
Sexist language - Posted by admin 2015-12-29 08:44:46
I'd say language becomes sexist when it puts down one gender over another. For example, the phrase "girls are stupid" would be sexist language.
2015 member awards! - Posted by admin 2015-12-29 00:37:25
I guess I might as well extend the poll into the new year owing to low numbers of votes. :(
Merry Christmas! - Posted by admin 2015-12-24 10:34:13
Hope y'all are safe and well this holidays! :D
2015 member awards! - Posted by admin 2015-12-23 02:20:03
Could use more votes on this!
2015 member awards! - Posted by admin 2015-12-20 00:59:30
That debate was awesome, but there's something of an unwritten rule I applied that disqualified any debates that didn't reach the front page. Our debate didn't get enough +1s unfortunately. You d...
2015 member awards! - Posted by admin 2015-12-19 11:00:52
Forgot to mention: GO HERE TO CAST YOUR VOTES: http://www.edeb8.com/group/Edeb8+Member+Awards/
2015 member awards! - Posted by admin 2015-12-19 07:35:31
Voting is now open for the 2015 Edeb8 member awards! Currently up for vote is DEBATER OF THE YEAR, with COMMUNITY MEMBER OF THE YEAR coming in a week or so :) The winners will be announced on New...
why was stag b&? - Posted by admin 2015-12-12 00:45:48
For trolling and for bullying complaints by 3 members.
Debating is still fun, right? - Posted by admin 2015-12-07 23:05:32
Neat! Love BP format.
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-12-06 04:25:40
Even when the other forum threads die, this one shall remain active.
Debating is still fun, right? - Posted by admin 2015-11-28 11:55:23
Haven't seen you around in ages :D
Edeb8 has a patreon now - Posted by admin 2015-11-25 02:06:24
For all the fundraising requests etc on the features + bugs page :) Check it out here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=128234 It's also advertised on the dashboard.
Does science argue for or against God? - Posted by admin 2015-11-22 15:17:39
Log out. That will complete the process. The only way I can force remove you from the site is by banning your IP entirely. I've set it to remove you as soon as you log out.
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-11-21 20:30:07
I'm surprised nobody has requested a leaderboard for this thread in the feature requests yet.
Does science argue for or against God? - Posted by admin 2015-11-21 20:28:58
Not Pragar University again! Sometimes I think anyone who in any way purports to be an academic should be legally required to at least attempt to be objective when making youtube videos. :
Issues Questions - Posted by admin 2015-11-21 20:26:20
The questions on the issues are the same as the random topic database. The idea is that each issue can be used as a ready-made debate resolution to allow you to challenge somebody. And the random...
New Features! - Posted by admin 2015-11-21 20:21:59
Hey everyone, Some of the top requested features are now here! > Added the ability to deactivate your own account > Better sharing buttons in debates > Added the ability to see ...
The EITC Alternative - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 02:26:35
I think we might need another thread on the MW in that case :D
The EITC Alternative - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 01:52:52
The minimum wage also decreases the reliance on welfare and incentivises employment, it's whether it has an effect on the employment rate that's the question. Essentially some economists think the MW ...
The EITC Alternative - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 01:37:31
Nope, where was this hiding!? In general I'm a fan of making taxes more progressive. So increasing the real income of the poor relative to the wealthy is a good thing. However, from what little I...
Edeb8 team democrat vs team republican - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 01:28:22
Might have to do 3v1 if this continues lol. Otherwise O'Malley will probably quit before I get around to speaking for him XD.
Locked Threads - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 01:26:45
Also, you can link to the old thread if you like.
Locked Threads - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 01:19:16
You can always make a new thread on the same topic :)
Windows 10 thread - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 00:22:19
Most of the time, yes. Though I can't see any annotations in it without an extension. To be fair, my computer's not the best.
Locked Threads - Posted by admin 2015-11-07 00:21:29
It was actually a user feature request to prevent necroposting.
Edeb8 team democrat vs team republican - Posted by admin 2015-11-06 23:40:00
Nobody wants to join my team?
Edeb8 team democrat vs team republican - Posted by admin 2015-11-06 12:19:47
Casual bumping :)
Edeb8 team democrat vs team republican - Posted by admin 2015-11-06 04:29:55
Each debater speaks for one round in the debate, except the leaders (Trump and Hillary) who also get to do the final summation / reply speech. The site would randomly determine who goes first.
Edeb8 team democrat vs team republican - Posted by admin 2015-11-06 04:28:25
Let's get this debate happening! Each debater should impersonate one character from the democrats or the republicans. The format will be 3v3 with reply speeches. TEAM DEMOCRAT 1. admin (Hillary...
Debating is still fun, right? - Posted by admin 2015-11-05 23:27:33
That would be kinda cool. Would you be keen on leading team GOP? Do it as a 3v3 debate and each side does the 3 leading candidates from their parties.
Debating is still fun, right? - Posted by admin 2015-11-05 12:34:34
This is exactly why I'd love to have live debates integrated fully into the site at last.
Political Quiz - Posted by admin 2015-11-05 04:20:32
Sorry. That happens if you reply to the thread as opposed to replying to the post. So that the site doesn't have to send hundreds of emails when somebody posts on the last post wins thread or somethin...
... and Stag got himself banned again - Posted by admin 2015-11-05 04:15:56
Back in his Jifpop days he certainly had his enemies. But what can I do? Nobody can say I didn't try. I even defended him on DDO.
Questioning Humanity - Posted by admin 2015-11-05 01:31:13
Crazy people exist. I fight as hard as anyone for the last piece of chicken, but this clearly crosses the line.
Semantics - Posted by admin 2015-11-05 01:22:06
Like most things it depends on the context. Oftentimes semantics is like a continuum between the two positions, as you say. I feel like people are capable of being more like (1) when they're discussin...
... and Stag got himself banned again - Posted by admin 2015-11-05 00:45:20
Shows how much bans on DDO are worth really.
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-04 13:47:27
I don't blame you for his attack on you. I do blame you if you counter-attack him in "defending yourself". If you're saying there's a problem with HIM, that's an attack, whereas if you say t...
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-04 12:27:19
No, you don't, because a repeated pattern of personal attacks is bullying, and enough has been said about this topic. I've warned both of you to stop, and even now you're still attacking his intellige...
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-04 12:16:52
Please don't do this if you don't want to get banned.
... and Stag got himself banned again - Posted by admin 2015-11-04 05:53:29
Stag was let back on the site on the condition that he make a certain statement to the community. He did not make that statement. Therefore, he has been banned once more.
Stag has been unbanned... - Posted by admin 2015-11-04 01:46:05
... and I believe he has a few words he'd like to share with us all ...
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-03 02:10:14
JohnMaynardKeynes this is sensible. Avoid each other. Heck, block each other!
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-03 02:06:08
Please re-read rather than assume I said nothing to him. I gave him a warning already.
Debating is still fun, right? - Posted by admin 2015-11-03 01:37:16
Just a reminder: There's only two people on this site currently in a debate, and one of them is me. There's a judgement-period debate that's been sitting there for like a week, with zero judgem...
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-03 01:33:34
Warning - don't retaliate. If it happens again, you're gone. I feel for you because you're attacked so much recently, but these counter-attacks are counter-productive and need to stop.
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-03 01:32:07
Warning: stop this bullying. One more warning and you're gone.
Taxing the Rich - Posted by admin 2015-11-01 08:28:05
Why?
Political Quiz - Posted by admin 2015-10-30 03:12:34
Well... I'm 91% Bernie Sanders. 81% Hillary Clinton... and my top republican is Rand Paul, followed by Donald Trump. :D
Political Quiz - Posted by admin 2015-10-30 01:02:42
Where's the link to the actual test so we could do it though? XD
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-27 00:57:26
With two ats before and after their name. Like this: @@Someuser that doesn't exist@@ is pretty cool.
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-27 00:29:43
If he's being rude or inappropriate, the correct response would be to get me to talk to him, not to stir the pot.
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-27 00:21:23
I don't care. If you're not going to sit idly by, I won't either. I'm happy to ban you both if I have to. You've both been warned. You're right to respond does not extend to a right to break the ...
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-27 00:15:29
Final warning JMK. This is instant ban-worthy material here. You're using profane language, and you're not participating in a healthy community, by making posts like this.
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-26 06:11:54
Yeah, look, this was clearly out of line. If you say something like this again after all that, you'll be banned.
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-26 03:46:08
I don't think so, because it doesn't imply that any specific DDO user is actually that. I was on DDO and I wasn't sociopathic or unstable. Likewise saying people on edeb8 are often sociopathic, for ex...
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-26 01:05:47
OK, on that note, now is probably the time to end this. Things have just been too heated. There's nothing to be gained from posting here at this point. Make new threads if you must. Some of this ...
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-26 00:18:09
Oi!
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-26 00:09:19
Just a note to all in this thread: be nice to each other. Anyone who's concerned about rules violations etc can always talk to me. :)
Five Phases of the History of Labor - Posted by admin 2015-10-25 05:15:50
See, I seem to recall there was once a time when we didn't. OK, I'll admit, it's debateable if we were really "humans" then. Neanderthals had already pretty much spread around the world...
Five Phases of the History of Labor - Posted by admin 2015-10-25 04:57:15
Why do you believe the manual phase probably never existed?
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-25 00:30:48
Immediately prior, nothing happened. I hadn't really even been on DDO for a month beforehand, hadn't done any debates etc. So much so that ClassicRobert kept reaching out to me and asking where I was ...
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-24 12:42:02
That was not nasty. At worst I accused him of neglecting debating, and he accused me of neglecting the community. Politicking stuff. After the election, Airmax made me the chief of tournaments, and ev...
Profile of the Edeb8r. - Posted by admin 2015-10-24 08:38:32
Quite the opposite - I'd say DDO is a magnet for sociopathic unstable people, since it draws in anyone with an opinion, as opposed to serious formal debaters specifically. Two groups of people come to...
#DemDebate Thread - Posted by admin 2015-10-22 23:50:55
You're using "well versed" here in the sense of how well-informed, not in the sense of how she says them. In a debate, the latter is infinitely more important. I've won plenty of debates bef...
Stag's ban - Posted by admin 2015-10-21 04:21:30
The rule here is that all bans last until the relevant transgressions are sincerely apologized for. So semi-permanent.
Stag's ban - Posted by admin 2015-10-21 02:11:26
He can't PM me because he's banned, but he knows my email - an email will do. The point, though, is yes. Sincere sorry = welcome back.
Stag's ban - Posted by admin 2015-10-21 02:04:54
The second one you posted in this thread. Which that post was in reply to.
Stag's ban - Posted by admin 2015-10-21 01:55:10
Also, this post is super sensible.
Stag's ban - Posted by admin 2015-10-21 01:54:13
My understanding is that for an actual prosecution you'd need to be able to demonstrate damages or a harm. Hurt feelings isn't usually enough for a successful prosecution. Nonetheless, the actual act ...
Stag's ban - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 23:22:32
Hey y'all, So, as you may know last year's "member of the year" was just banned. I want to give a bit of context here as to why, but also use this as an opportunity to discuss the rules...
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 22:51:25
Stag, I'm on my way to the site database to ban you right now for bullying (towards 3 members) and trolling (in this thread, by your own admission). You know where to reach me if you ever want to apol...
Edeb8 turns 2 - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 22:28:48
Our second birthday is coming up. Who's ready to party?
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 22:26:43
See, here's the issue. All along, you've been trying to use this entire thread to bully me. As you've been doing for months. I can't remember the last thread we both participated in where you didn't l...
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 19:33:22
Follow up the personal attack with "oh, I knew I was wrong the whole time". Classic.
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 19:30:47
I generally find that when somebody feels the need to respond to logic with a personal attack, that's when they're really starting to get desperate.
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 19:25:17
No, I was pointing out that your post before this one had a logical error in it that essentially did amount to a concession. What you said was: "The most vein person would definitely take a ...
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 05:41:47
Well since what I'm pointing out is that you're not an intellectual, thanks for conceding the point.
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 04:28:31
And only the least intellectual would: a) not know the difference between spelling and grammar, and b) continue to make the same mistake in a reply post, even though they themselves admit its a mi...
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 02:42:33
And you can't even spell vain right multiple times, so you fail half the criteria in my book. :)
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-20 01:22:03
Want to debate that Carthage would have gained increasing power had it not challenged Rome?
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-19 21:59:44
Xenophon shared the history of his times. Saying Xenophon was a mere statesman is like saying Thucydides was a mere general. In fact Xenophon is a very useful source because he essentially covers most...
The Thucydides Trap - Posted by admin 2015-10-19 15:28:18
Thucydides is ok IMO. It's Xenophon that you really need to avoid.
Quick tip of the moment - Posted by admin 2015-10-18 14:56:40
General edeb8 PSA: if you've had or see a good debate around edeb8, and please click the "thumbs up" icon on the top right of the page, just below the facebook logo. This already helps ...
Scenario: Mount Fuji Eruption - Posted by admin 2015-10-18 01:38:39
It's not about location, it's about lahar paths. They're the biggest real danger. This is where the Japanese government scientists say the lahars will flow, and ash will fall: https://upload...
Scenario: Mount Fuji Eruption - Posted by admin 2015-10-18 00:56:38
Moreover, eruptions are probably the single most predictable disaster in this day and age.
Scenario: Mount Fuji Eruption - Posted by admin 2015-10-18 00:55:21
Nope. That's not how eruptions work. That would be like saying the next time Mt St Helens erupts, the whole West Coast will be destroyed.
Scenario: Mount Fuji Eruption - Posted by admin 2015-10-17 06:05:31
Parts of Japan would evacuate a bit. Afterwards life would go on as normal.
International Betting Market - Posted by admin 2015-10-16 14:11:22
Really? How strange. Land of the free makes online gambling illegal. Has anyone sued the various lotteries over this yet? Or the stock markets?
International Betting Market - Posted by admin 2015-10-16 13:51:31
Why would it be illegal for Americans to participate?
International Betting Market - Posted by admin 2015-10-16 05:33:10
Really? Why?
Palestinian Explusion from Israel - Posted by admin 2015-10-15 01:52:57
I think Jordan views Palestinians more as a liability. I think in this respect, they sympathize with Israel more than anyone.
#DemDebate Thread - Posted by admin 2015-10-15 01:51:41
Yeah, but I think in terms of their debate quality, the two are roughly on par. If anything the larger field of republicans makes it harder to stand out in those debates on particular issues.
Palestinian Explusion from Israel - Posted by admin 2015-10-15 00:53:41
More land, no. More people, yes.
#DemDebate Thread - Posted by admin 2015-10-15 00:53:10
I think the great counterpoint is probably Obama.
#DemDebate Thread - Posted by admin 2015-10-15 00:51:27
I answered my views on the debate performances of democrats in the post immediately before. I need to clarify once again that I'm simply scoring them on how *well* they did in the debates specifi...
Distribution of Wealth - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 17:59:43
I think money is a particular poor unit when it comes to production. Progress is a better indicator, but practically impossible to quantify objectively. In my view, you can't share stores of valu...
#DemDebate Thread - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 17:23:35
Ultimately I feel like most people will judge these debates on who a) doesn't screw up in a way that's easy for the media to mock, and b) has a policy that is most appealing to voters. And I think tha...
#DemDebate Thread - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 17:20:12
I have a two-sided view on this. If we see debates as a form of political entertainment, then Trump has won this entire thing already. He's hands-down been the most entertaining character in any ...
#DemDebate Thread - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 17:11:15
My views: Clinton - solid performance, well rehearsed, a little shaky on rebuttal, 8/10 Sanders - impassioned, direct, occasionally unresponsive, 8/10 Webb - arrogant, alternative, did well t...
Distribution of Wealth - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 17:07:02
It's the net value of finished measurable goods and services produced in a year. That's a massive distinction in economic terms.
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 12:21:06
You do not want them to have independence. Actually I said the exact opposite. I think they should have independence, even though that is not in their interest. You are aware that the most powe...
Palestinian Explusion from Israel - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 12:17:49
I think the biggest opponents of that would be Jordan themselves.
Distribution of Wealth - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 12:07:53
I have a far more important question. Why do you think GDP is a good measure of wealth?
Freedom of Navigation Operations - Posted by admin 2015-10-14 12:07:03
Of course, we all know how good the USA is at following international law...
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 06:15:08
Tibet is an autonomous region. That means all their taxes are only reinvested in that region. Of course, thanks to Chinese rule, resettlement into Tibet of Han etc is rampant, but the thing about taxe...
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 04:04:23
No. For one, saying it's "pretty much fact" that all of a class of people believe in exactly the same mindset is insane. It would be like me judging all Americans on the basis that some of t...
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 03:09:13
That said, I would support self-determination as a stronger moral value than "what's best for them", in the same way as I uphold democracy over what's best for me.
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 03:08:06
I, for one, think they're better off in most respects under China. The only objective issues are a loss of culture, which has already been mostly mitigated by the Tibetians themselves and doesn't...
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 03:05:48
If you claim you're the least biased, why are you making subjective statements like claiming most Palestinians have "probably" thrown a rock at Israel? This is Orwellianism at its fines...
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 03:04:13
Nah, the world's less fragmented than it used to be.
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 02:15:09
I think it's a pretty well established fact that most of them want independance.
Tibet - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 02:11:22
Figured this is a place America has less of a vested interest in than Israel, so it might be somewhat easier to discuss. Do you think Tibet should be, well, not part of China?
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 02:08:50
You can consider my speech what you want. I alone can say what my speech is. If you think this is some slogan fest, well, those are your thoughts. But that doesn't mean I am speaking in slogans. What ...
Palestinian Explusion from Israel - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 02:01:09
Why? Would you prefer threads about Tibet?
Palestinian Explusion from Israel - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 02:00:39
So, yeah, I'm a fan of Arab nations playing by the rules. And it would be unfair if the Israelis were the only ones playing by those rules. But they aren't is my point. They're a state moulded by viol...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 01:30:38
Naturally, I don't want to debate this here. I want to do it in an actual debate. I don't speak in slogans. I speak my mind. Much like you and everyone else does. I communicate my ideas in whatev...
Palestinian Explusion from Israel - Posted by admin 2015-10-13 01:19:48
So, first of all, I think in most of these cases the history is rather relevant. The last person with an active policy of homogenizing his populating - that is, kicking out anyone of another culture a...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-12 11:26:17
So, a few points here. First. The notion that not being American in any way reduces my opinion on the matter is, at best, cultural arrogance. At worst, it's outright degradation in the name of na...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-12 09:01:54
I'm rather like nzlockie on this too. There's a nation out there that collectively fears so much for its own security, that insecurity has become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Discussion: proactive ban notices - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 03:19:31
Yip, possible. Among countless other things. I can assure you that you haven't been flagged - you would have been banned already. Numerous people already have. I've had at least 5 emails so far f...
Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 03:14:45
The US became rich on the basis of Keynesian policies, including taking personal advice from Keynes himself, to end the Great Depression. This began a postwar boom that ran through the 50s. It wasn't ...
Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 02:58:13
the economy is good at sorting itself out There is literally no academic backing to this argument. Neoclassical economics is a pure fantasy.
Discussion: proactive ban notices - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 02:55:21
Yes, it is provided in all the messages. Also, I have the "allow external email" feature enabled on my account.
Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 02:29:06
Would you like a debate on this?
Discussion: proactive ban notices - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 02:26:54
You'd get a message saying something like "Your account has been flagged for multi-accounting... blah blah blah... please explain yourself within 12 hours or you will be banned..." You'...
Discussion: proactive ban notices - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 02:06:13
Well, if you are notified, let me know and I'll take that as a reasonable excuse in your case.
Discussion: proactive ban notices - Posted by admin 2015-10-09 00:40:56
No. If you forget your information you must use the forgot password feature, or if that is not enough, contact me directly.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 23:30:10
Do you believe there should be laws against murder?
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 23:22:38
Democracy is a government by the people - all the people. Why compromise cannot be just is beyond me.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 23:18:49
Cowboys aren't heroes.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 23:13:59
I call that rhetoric a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 23:13:13
So do I. I call such a proposal "democracy".
Russia and al-Assad - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 23:12:06
Can you name some specifics regarding what policy changes you're talking about? Blowing ANYONE'S brains out could hypothetically achieve those aims. Heck, you might as well wipe out humanity to p...
Russia and al-Assad - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 21:15:48
In my view, anyone who mentions "blowing someone's brains out" as an excuse for war, death, destruction and desecration of Syria is making an emotional response and therefore should not be t...
Russia and al-Assad - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 21:13:50
Sure, but they've been sending those since before the conflict. That's not a change in policy or an action. These airstrikes are a change. China almost always abstains because they are neutral. I...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 21:10:38
I don't support it as a SEPARATE RIGHT. I do support people having the ability to practice any religion within the bounds of reasonable law, but not because they have that right from religion. They ha...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 21:07:40
Well if you agree that "incapacitating weapons are ineffective," then surely a gun isn't a solution to your issue. For the record, the reason I said "in general" was exactly this c...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 21:00:01
No, I support free speech and limited free expression, just not any separate right for religion. People can be religious, but their right to be religious is not individually legally protected above an...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 05:12:47
I think it is reasonable that if guns are banned for all civilians, they should also be banned (in general) for the police.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 05:10:22
OK, you say that's obvious. I say then you're not advocating total religious freedoms, only freedom of religion for those religions that you agree are not far-fetched or illogical. But the law ca...
Russia and al-Assad - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 05:04:16
Russia took no action until about a month ago, when all of a sudden they started pledging lots of very specific support to al-Assad. By what I'm sure must be a happy coincidence, Russia started m...
Thesaurus icon - Posted by admin 2015-10-07 03:12:14
Me sucking at graphic design certainly does not help here!
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 11:19:15
And by the way, the term "culture of fear" does not imply that this culture is IRRATIONAL or that there's nothing to be afraid of. It simply means that generally, a population is predisposed...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 11:18:14
... be it based on a fact or not, it is still a culture of fear.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 11:08:36
So in your view, you cannot be afraid of something once that thing is normalized? Do you think people in the middle east are like "nah, we're not afraid of bombings, they happen all the time...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 10:38:11
So then there IS a culture of fear. You're afraid somebody will hurt you. NZ may have only had one mass shooting (the Aramoana Massacre), but this doesn't mean we don't have unsafe neighbourhoods...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 10:24:19
You reject it, and here we have Stag in this very same thread lecturing me on how we in New Zealand don't know what it's like to have so many neighbourhoods you can be easily killed in around the plac...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 02:24:06
Said armed individual is incapacitated though. You can't fire a gun while you're being electrocuted. Shortbows aren't powerful enough. Doing that is illegal in New Zealand. As is the use of poiso...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 02:13:36
High-powered bows with a gigantic draw strength can also work.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 02:10:53
A bullet that is designed to incapacitate makes any kind of gun response useless. Even a taser is effective at bringing down a person with a firearm. Police have used them here before.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 01:07:19
How common are non-lethal guns in America? Here in New Zealand they're basically only used by shooting clubs, because by law when hunting you must use a really high-powered weapon (we don't like the a...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 00:58:21
OK. Say you have a gun, and I shoot you before you even see me. What use was your gun?
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 00:37:03
The rhetoric is important. I think a lot of the gun lobby in the US uses that kind of language as a marketing gimmick, to help people feel "safe" when they hold a gun. In America, holding on...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 00:26:29
Armor, shields, walls etc are defenses. Guns are a weapon. You can't block a bullet flying at you using a gun. So you can't defend against guns using guns.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 00:24:05
People with firearms almost never get touched here in Detroit. That is absurd. Criminals in Detroit must be really irrationally scared of guns.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-06 00:22:23
That isn't an argument against gun control. I'd rather someone try to kick my ass than somebody try to shoot me.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-05 10:43:25
Or it might because because the setting allows for bad debating. It's hardly a victory if the other side refused to compete.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-05 09:35:43
You know me. I nowadays save my arguing for debates. People have a way of ignoring my points on forums.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-05 07:15:55
I feel like the fact some people would defend a policy at the expense of other's lives is one of the strongest moral arguments against gun control.
Discussion: proactive ban notices - Posted by admin 2015-10-04 23:30:17
So far they're working very well for multiaccounts. I'm starting to think I should implement them more broadly. People always get a notice period and a chance to appeal to me after all. Thoughts?
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-04 20:42:51
I think the proliferation of arms generally ends more lives than it saves. I for one just don't see the importance. And that the point where you say everyone, as opposed to most people again, the...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-04 18:44:56
To say that you "never said or implied" something that, quite literally, means exactly what I said it does, is extremely dishonest.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-04 02:27:24
Essential means you cannot do without it.
Thesaurus icon - Posted by admin 2015-10-03 22:57:12
My concern is a UX one - people might confuse that for "text formatting" like in GMail etc.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-03 22:45:00
a good father will teach his son self defense skills as young an age as possible, including with a firearm So you believe without a firearm a male cannot defend themselves?
Marriage - Posted by admin 2015-10-03 22:43:44
Today? Slightly more male-owned than female-owned.
Marriage - Posted by admin 2015-10-03 20:36:30
Depends on the culture in which it happens.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-03 20:32:54
Even if that were true, that's different from arming all 7-year-olds. And the suggestion that anyone who hasn't gone hunting by the age of 7 isn't "man" enough is misogynistic, myopic, and e...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 23:16:55
Again, regardless of label or circumstance means you want infants to have the right to bear arms. At that point the argument just becomes absurd.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 23:11:04
If your attacker shoots you, then you're disempowered. The only way you're empowered is if you shoot first. Of course shooting first makes you the attacker. Either way it's disempowering for the perso...
Thesaurus icon - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 23:04:34
1) Quite the contrary. The site terms specifically state: "You will not modify, publish, transmit, participate in the transfer or sale, create derivative works, or in any way exploit, any of the ...
Thesaurus icon - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 21:45:32
1) Don't have legal rights to use it 2) Not thesaurus.com (don't think they have an API anyway)
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 20:22:37
Fear implies something to be afraid of. In the USA, there's a culture of fear right now. Power is inherently asymmetric. The notion that if everyone had guns, power would not be asymmetric, is refuted...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 19:02:36
If so, then your own definition wouldn't solve the problem. You're actively promoting the safety of a few by allowing them to tyrannize others, but so long as that safety is not broadly ensured, you h...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 14:22:03
Well until then you hadn't said "everyone" either. Everyone should have a gun is an extreme position that I think is extremely difficult to rationally defend. My point is though, I don'...
Thesaurus icon - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 11:48:19
Can somebody please make / find a small 16x16 icon we can use to indicate "thesaurus" in the debate editor?
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-02 00:24:52
Just saying, I'd feel considerably less safe if mentally ill people are carrying firearms. Along with everyone else, regardless of how trigger happy they all are. If the culture shifts to one where it...
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-01 23:33:40
My thoughts are with the families, with the injured students, and with their friends. Terrible is a good call.
Umpqua Shooting - Posted by admin 2015-10-01 23:32:33
I have a sincere question that I've wanted to ask somebody like you for a while now. Suppose somebody would never shoot at anyone, even at the cost of their own lives. Do you think it would be go...
A JMK rant - Posted by admin 2015-10-01 03:12:57
Speak for yourself. If anything, I think demonstrating humility towards others would make me esteem and respect them more.
New Features - Posted by admin 2015-09-30 20:00:06
Chrome-based chat bugs should be mostly fixed now. Thanks to Stag for the report.
A JMK rant - Posted by admin 2015-09-30 19:35:41
You have a way of talking highly of yourself in relation to your friends. Previously you suggested on the shoutbox all depression is a sign of personal weakness and that you'd never find yourself in t...
Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2015-09-30 19:10:44
Sure, I'd defend that stance... In a debate XD
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-09-30 12:55:09
Wait, is this last comment thread turning into a serious topic? Woah.
A JMK rant - Posted by admin 2015-09-30 12:52:28
Well, I got what I expected lol. Small warning for profanity. Don't let it happen again.
Minimum Wage - Posted by admin 2015-09-30 00:21:46
Based on what I've heard and read about the American minimum wage, I'd say it should be raised slightly.
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-09-30 00:17:48
To be fair, Hitler didn't cause World Destruction. At best he kinda might have attempted it.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-28 23:34:44
Because what you would be protecting there is a meaningless statement that can be twisted to mean anything. Other protections are quite specific and actually better maximize what you consider to ...
New Features - Posted by admin 2015-09-28 07:25:55
Might be useful to some people: Telling me something is "broke" isn't helpful to me. I literally cannot act on this information. Telling me what's wrong (for example "I can't ...
New Features - Posted by admin 2015-09-28 05:52:59
Hello Some new things that have been added: 1. Multiaccounting users are now automatically banned - some people will soon get notices to this effect if they haven't already 2. Users can no...
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-24 22:44:54
Not to mention further benefits they could be eligable for, like the Community Services Card, Child Disability Allowance etc etc, you get the point.
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-24 22:40:45
So you're saying 95% of people pay more for administering a system to reduce healthcare costs than those healthcare costs are actually reduced? Let's put that into perspective. Roughly 258,000 pe...
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-24 01:50:19
In fairness, New Zealand doesn't have free tertiary education (though we do a ton of stuff to make it affordable).
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 11:35:22
I can only answer for myself, but: 1. No 2. Because not all of the benefits of this policy are realized through taking money out of people's pockets, even with the assumption that a non-governm...
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 03:20:45
Sure
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 03:19:13
Sure.
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 03:12:57
It's your resolution from the list above! Just pick one :D
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 03:10:31
The United States should tighten gun laws. How about that one?
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 03:06:56
Up to you really.
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 02:06:40
Would you like to do one of them around now?
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 02:01:36
Not necessarily. For example the cheaper medication, in New Zealand, is the result of a sole-buyer system that we use for distributing many medicines known as Pharmac. Aside from the administrative co...
Alternate Form of Capitalism - Posted by admin 2015-09-23 00:58:26
It's been done before. Doesn't work.
Alternate Form of Capitalism - Posted by admin 2015-09-22 04:27:31
So it's a maximum price.
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-21 05:32:02
No, cost of living is decreasing in most aspects (actually in the first world the key thing decreasing is food). When you say healthcare costs are rising, what you're really referring to is that stand...
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-21 00:32:16
See, I disagree. I think a significant function of technology is that each individual can contribute a greater proportion of another person's needs. This has made welfarism relatively increasingly att...
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-20 22:22:08
That would only be true if one person cannot support more than one person through welfare. It also takes no account of population demographics.
Is Welfarism Effective? - Posted by admin 2015-09-20 06:59:31
How do you define effectiveness? In my personal view, yes, it is effective.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 17:41:50
No. I'm saying that there ought to be no right to religious practices at all, since doing so would be arbitrary and thus defeat the purpose of rights. If there is some other freedom a priori, then gov...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 16:29:52
The freedom to "have faith" is a necessary component of "free thought". It's the expression of those beliefs that we're more concerned about here. If you have an absolute freedom o...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 16:13:55
defined; limited; premised upon
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 13:19:28
And I disagree with that right, because I feel it is arbitrary if not qualified by other rights. For that matter, the same would be true of ANYTHING socially defined. If most countries had the right t...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 12:56:31
Well, for example, where's the qualifier in "Citizens should have the right to worship in public"? In the context I mean, there's no premise for that right. It simply exists. You asked ...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 07:32:18
You argued it when you argued religious freedom should be unqualified. I absolutely think religious freedom is contingent on other freedoms. And don't see the problem with that.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 01:07:47
But legally speaking, the question isn't one of your opinion, you were arguing that religious freedom was the basis of all other freedoms. I see it as the opposite - religious freedom only applies ins...
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 00:34:19
I don't think the makeup of the population has anything to do with it. Everyone in New Zealand agrees New Zealand is a former Maori country, despite hardly any of us actually being that.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-19 00:28:03
Well then it's still up to you to define the difference, and at the point where you're defining religion, you're agreeing essentially that not all religious expression is ok. A definition of consolida...
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-18 12:35:01
It's a fair point. I'm pretty sure at least half of all countries can justifiably call themselves former British colonies - I'm from one too. I tend to find most arguments presenting a justificat...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-18 03:50:55
Sure. By that definition, every single person who has ever killed somebody "in the name of God" is justified in doing so. We need to check religious freedom against common social values...
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-18 00:00:50
Define "actual religion" though.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-17 09:55:12
Sure. But what if I "consolidate with God" by raping people? Religious freedom has the inherent problem that a "religion" is a socially constructed concept.
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-16 23:32:10
When my current death penalty debate is over, sure! I debate pretty much everything.
Kim Davis - Marriage - Posted by admin 2015-09-16 23:30:53
Damn, couldn't even be bothered to link the url, just the google redirect to the url. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/09/08/kim-davis-released-jail/71882274/
Windows 10 thread - Posted by admin 2015-09-16 23:30:10
It's not bad. I use the annotation feature to help me judge debates. I have, however, run into the >512 apps bug. That one's annoying.
Religious Freedom - Posted by admin 2015-09-16 23:28:42
I'd oppose most of these as fundamental rights. For instance, say you have a religion where your form of "prayer" is to kill someone. I'd oppose people of that religion "praying".
Topics I'd like to debate. - Posted by admin 2015-09-16 12:26:17
Reposted for the lazy: The topics are in random order, with my preferred side at the end in (parentheses). They are as follows: Resolved: A just society ought not use the death penalty as a ...
I'm off to a chess tournament today - Posted by admin 2015-09-13 03:48:44
Me on my way to drawing game 4: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KLAHI2fIf_g/VfTr-lgddVI/AAAAAAAADmA/gu713Thny8Y/s720-Ic42/P9120043.JPG
I'm off to a chess tournament today - Posted by admin 2015-09-12 05:23:54
2 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses. Totally fair result I suppose :)
I'm off to a chess tournament today - Posted by admin 2015-09-11 16:01:45
Wish me luck gang. 3 former NZ champions will be there for the prestigious title of "Kapiti Rapid Chess Champion". Will post how I got on tonight. Maybe include some games I've played. ...
WODC 2015 - Edeb8 thrashed - Posted by admin 2015-09-10 08:37:05
The 5 regular rounds of the WODC have now finished, with Zaradi's debate just ending its voting period. While last year Edeb8 just nudged ahead in the last moment, this year DDO was fairly dominant. ...
500 members! - Posted by admin 2015-09-06 03:09:56
Who are the 5?
500 members! - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 11:24:59
Welcome to our 500th member, http://www.edeb8.com/profile/Austine+Justine+Rivera Celebrate a big milestone in edeb8 history here. http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/500-members-and-growing-d...
Dependency and Sycophancy - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:53:48
States are a human institution, and therefore have no right to abrogate human rights. Slavery is defined specifically by the condition of forced labor for a particular employer, especially with l...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:40:56
Mind you, we'd have to go to the more complex version of the formula due to the sample size.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:39:54
Merely having a sample size of 1000 does not make it inaccurate is the point. Margin of error calculations do prove that much. Oh my god, now you revert the definition, which shows that you don't...
Dependency and Sycophancy - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:32:29
I don't think a legitimate state does take them away, in aggregate. That is the function of a social contract. Contractual law - another thing which, like basic statistics, you've apparently never stu...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:30:29
Also, why do I have to explain this stuff to anyone who isn't 13?
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:29:36
Note, it's not about perfect surveying, but perfect randomness. As opposed to seeded randomness.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:28:42
Then you were rambling about something completely off topic. No, I wasn't. Margin of error is a completely warranted reply to calling the statistic baseless or useless. So if I perfectly surve...
Dependency and Sycophancy - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:25:39
In response to this post: No From the fact I am human. Those are human rights. The question of how is not relevant. I don't care how. In response to your other post: Because the benefits ...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:16:26
The point of all this is - the margin of error in that statistic was nowhere near 100%. You were wrong about that, and ought to admit it.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:15:46
Also the fact that you thought margin of error dealt with the validity of the survey just shows that you don't know what the hell you are talking about. It does deal with it. It doesn't ensure accu...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:13:35
Then I'd take the challenge, show him a calculator, and reap the judgments in my favor.
Dependency and Sycophancy - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:12:50
You're making plenty of statements. Not points. People are drawn to a state for the promotion of liberty and equality, among other reasons. I am entitled to certain things for the insurance of ...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:09:19
Would you like to debate that a random sample is perfectly representative? I'd imagine you'd think it's an easy win (because you think a perfect representation precludes a sample, without understandin...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:07:51
And you're the one who says you always respond to my points in full? Seesh. I've got to remember this comeback. I said your survey was incredibly unreliable, and you gave me a margin of error sta...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:03:49
Because a random sample is inherently perfectly representative. Don't tell me you don't know the statistical definition of those things either.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:02:45
I'M NOT. YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY THE MARGIN OF ERROR CALCULATED BY USA TODAY WAS WRONG. Do you agree their stat had a 3% margin of error? Note that this does not mean it is in any way accurate.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:01:28
No I didn't. You tried telling me the margin of error was wrong on my stat. I simply showed that USA Today had calculated it correctly.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 10:00:42
Do you know what a random sample is? Do you know how a random sample of 1000 people differs from a regular sample of 1000 people?
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:59:45
NO. The margin of error is the range of values above and below a statistic at a confidence interval. HOW THE HELL DO PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET NOT KNOW THIS?
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:58:33
It would be. Except I know full well that I'm right. All you've done is tell me to find people to tell me I'm wrong. Not only is that a poor argument. NOBODY EXCEPT YOU WOULD. A margin ...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:56:47
It told me that a random sampling of 1000 people in 315 million has a critical t-value margin of error of 4%, and a (more accurate) z-value margin of error of 3%. Yes. Just like EVERYONE ELSE. ...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:52:47
In addition, Google isn't always right. I know this from books, scholarly articles, and teaching from top statistics researchers/professors. The margin of error is approximately 3%, there's no way aro...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:50:44
look up the truth using google. First result: http://stattrek.com/estimation/margin-of-error.aspx?Tutorial=AP Agrees with my formula (uses a different arrangement though, my version is easier)....
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:41:40
I haven't been shouting. You've been begging me to respond to your various inane ramblings about absolute freedom, and I have. In this case you're attacking one of my stats because you couldn't back u...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:39:31
Please, enlighten us as to how to properly calculate a margin of error off a univariate statistic in a random sample. I got an A in my university statistics paper - I don't think they usually give tho...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:31:48
there is no point in debating the blatantly obvious Says the person who derides me in the other thread for refusing to engage with him. This IS blatantly obvious if you understand some basic facts ...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:26:56
1000 randomly sampled people out of 315 million people are going to provide an accurate statistic for the total population 97% of the time Also, this demonstrates that you don't know the statistical...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 09:24:18
Would you like to debate that accurate statistical inference exists outside of my reality? Also, are you sure you're not a 13 year old with who's never heard of a t-test in their life?
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 08:05:42
Also, this requires that the sample be TRULY random, which frankly almost no samples are. By I wouldn't fault them on that without specific evidence.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 08:04:14
Actually I kinda figure I'd better show the working for anyone who hasn't done stats before. Margins of error are generally derived from something called a confidence interval. The maths is a bit...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 07:46:39
Have you ever taken an entry-level statistics paper? Seriously? Or are you disputing the statistical formula for a margin of error?
Dependency and Sycophancy - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 07:44:59
Conservatives back those things now, but it was the progressives of the past who led the change. Indeed progressives are STILL not satisfied with gender and racial equality, and I'll bet the conservat...
Dependency and Sycophancy - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 04:21:37
In their classical formulation, you're more or less right about natural rights. I think you and John Stuart Mill would have had a lot in common. The problem is, those people were fallible. Your o...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 04:16:07
Then challenge me to a debate and don't forfeit for once.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-05 04:15:42
No, it comes from USA Today. It was reprinted on that website. 1000 randomly sampled people given a country of 315 million IS approximately a 3% margin of error. That's basic statistics. In gener...
Predictions for the next 20 years - Posted by admin 2015-09-04 16:24:48
Edeb8 will be the #1 debate site on the internet
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-04 16:19:21
I hope you can back up your "majority of the world" stat. In the USA, it's roughly 50-50 support. http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/USA-Today-Gun-control-support.png ...
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-04 15:59:30
your only participation in threads is demeaning the views and ideals in a non intellectual manner. I hope you don't mean to suggest that you've never been guilty of this either.
Gun Rights - Posted by admin 2015-09-04 03:38:36
Can confirm, usernames must have at least 4 letters in them.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 13:11:07
My google search: https://www.google.co.nz/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=20+people+%22on+death+row%22+for+apostasy+in+iran As you can see, none of this st...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 13:07:35
I usually find the people who brag about their IQ are just insecure jerks who could recognize some patterns one time. I refuse IQ tests for that reason. I wonder what people "accredit" ...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 13:00:23
Really? Please, name me these people who are on death row. Since you say you've seen the court records I'm sure you could tell me this. I do not support this kind of law, no. All I'm saying is th...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:54:23
Imagine saying that to Einstein. "I am too stupid to understand your explanation of general relativity, therefore you must not know anything about general relativity."
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:52:57
It has been on the news numerous times of Iranian Muslims being executed and killed for leaving their faith. Name one other than Youcef Nadarkhani (who was the person whose conviction was overturned...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:49:00
Well if you define a state in a positivist framework then a state is incompatible with something like human rights, isn't it? Qn 1. I think that would depend on the social contract, and I would h...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:40:30
No, it has a policy of persecuting ex-muslims. That is not true. The only time such a case has happened in the past 2 decades, the person was freed on appeal. In a decision I disagree with mind y...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:37:20
The group rules over themselves, because society IS the state by another name when that society has a social contract in place. The court would determine whether that positive action was recogniz...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:32:14
Again, I've proposed a naturalist framework, and you're arguing against a positivist one without listening to me. It's pretty stupid.
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:30:33
Well then I oppose such states. I only recognize organized political groups that are formal representations of a social contract which defines mutually forfeited rights.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:29:05
I agree they do so in secret. I do not agree that the ban on this is extrajudicial. The MAXIMUM penalty is death. It is not the only option judges have.
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:26:54
You didn't, you consented via the positive action of being a member of that society.
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:26:24
... and I disagree with abuses of power. Society working together = state. To me there is no distinction.
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:25:09
Yes I have, four times. I don't feel obligated to. My answer each time was that you consent by being a member of that society.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 12:22:09
No they wouldn't because conversion is illegal for a muslim in the civil law, and in the constitution.
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 11:33:05
What if I had my own state of 10 people, and you were born into it? We vote that we don't like you and you should be executed. Still don't think that is tyranny? I find this particularly funny. ...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 11:29:47
We are not arguing about societies, but the authoritative bodies that preside over societies known as the state. I don't believe in authoritative bodies presiding over societies. I believe in mutual...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 11:25:17
Were you referring to this? Based on numerous interviews with Iranian converts to Christianity, lawyers, activists, and journalists... That's the only mention of any interviews your source h...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 06:12:32
Did you mean to say that if I break the law, then society is free to take away my liberties? Right now, you are free from compulsion by society. Sure many in society would love to lock you up, but i...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-09-01 05:32:10
America doesn't allow people who don't pledge allegiance to the USA to be president either. Doesn't prevent it from being democratic in its own way. Same with Iran. If you're not pro-Iran, Iran won't ...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 17:45:39
I totally agree that you are not endowed to anyone's government. You are free to break the law. All you have to do is accept that society will then be free to remove the freedom of not coercing you if...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 17:20:30
I deviate with a lot of liberal leaders and their positions. Heck, I cannot think of another major liberal leader in the world today who argues nations ought to abolish their militaries. Not even the ...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 08:54:18
You didn't do nothing. You followed the law, thereby forfeiting your rights in exchange for enjoying the benefits of living in a state. When you cease to follow the law by claiming back those rights, ...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 08:37:18
I make my own judgments, thank you very much. The fact that I'm enough of a critical thinker to reject your viewpoints here should be enough to prove this belief. I completely agree that the Baha...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 06:03:31
You know how you keep telling me to read a book on anarchism? You need to read a book on contract law. The only thing that courts have ruled in common law as being never a valid form of acceptance to ...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 05:50:07
What's all this "Death to Jews! Death to America!" propaganda that the Ayatollah was shouting about? The only place I've heard that fearmongering is in American media. In interviews and s...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 05:08:38
A signature is only an indication of acceptance to a contract. You don't need to physically sign a contract to agree to it. This is basic contract law stuff. You're NOT being punished for disagre...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 04:58:43
Yes but the supreme court has already established that the US constitution should be interpreted as a living document, such that its meaning can adapt with time. As such what constitutes an "unco...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 04:37:08
Your punishment would be that you would not have the benefits of belonging to the state. Anyone could do with you whatever they pleased since you have forfeited your natural right, including the state...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 04:18:19
I don't. I believe that people do so of their own accord and that this can be conceived of as a state. Their collective decision can be conceived of as a contract, one that is of a social nature. Thei...
What is anarchism? - Posted by admin 2015-08-31 00:04:32
No, it's about leading without force, vs leading with force. At least to you, since I believe leadership itself is an exercise in force.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-30 23:59:08
Wait a second. The supreme court of the USA can say that any law of the US government is unconstitutional. Does that make them more powerful than the rest? No. In fact the ayatollah is more accou...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-30 15:09:19
People said the same thing about Russia and the USA during the cold war.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-30 15:08:25
"Most powerful man" is arguable. Regardless if you're referring to the ayatollah, who is the head of the Islamic branch of the judiciary (not a lawmaker as he is often fallaciously painted b...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-30 04:22:18
And by the way, I don't mean to legitimize that suppression, I just feel like it shouldn't be misrepresented. It's not "Iran is evil" or "Islam is evil".
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-30 04:19:15
Lol, not at all. Do they not have an elected government? I think you'll find they have an elected government. The state has an active policy of persecuting non-muslims. Again, the situation i...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-29 18:53:11
Sure, but these are YOUR interpretations of these passages. And you're coupling that with YOUR interpretation of the Qu'ran. All I'm saying is that, some people will interpret the bible differently. A...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-29 17:50:57
But hang on, it's irrelevant whether those verses are being interpreted CORRECTLY or not by the Catholics. All that would prove is that catholics twist scripture... a moderate muslim would say an extr...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-29 16:44:25
If you are saying that people should stop clearly twisting Scripture to justify their violence, then I totally agree. Funnily enough, moderate muslims say *exactly* the same thing. And where yo...
New Members Thread: Welcome to EDEB8.com! - Posted by admin 2015-08-28 10:46:27
Let's not forget that this thread still exists
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-08-28 08:21:18
Don't say I didn't warn ya
The next 24 hours or so... - Posted by admin 2015-08-28 00:22:44
... rebump
The next 24 hours or so... - Posted by admin 2015-08-28 00:05:49
... I know people love venting about DDO on this site, but this post is very important. So. Bump.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-08-28 00:02:50
Actually Darwin's second book specifically refuted the notion that there are multiple human races. In fact he spent the entire book proving it. Of course it wasn't definitively proven until melanin wa...
The next 24 hours or so... - Posted by admin 2015-08-27 23:59:44
... are set aside for feature updates. You may find small parts of the site break here and there for a short while. Please be patient.
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-08-27 03:07:52
Or that of their allies, I might add.
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-08-27 03:07:30
I think some countries are unique cases. The US is one of them. Ultimately the third world would be the most affected, because many of those nations contain rebel groups that would be unwilling t...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 10:29:51
Sure, here's how I'd summarize it. Logic requires a basis. The best explanation for that basis is found in the Christian God. Therefore it is most likely that the Christian God exists.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 06:00:42
Well, I for one can understand arguments that have errors in them, much like how when I read code that has a bug in it, I can still understand what the code was probably meant to do or how it was supp...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 05:57:47
I think you two should have a debate on this one day.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 05:56:58
Just because you believe an argument is wrong doesn't mean you can't grasp or understand it.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 04:51:30
I did grasp it, I just distracted the judges with other arguments XD
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 04:50:42
Blanks
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 01:06:04
Nu get Jerry
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-08-26 00:00:14
na na na
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 23:57:51
If this continues much longer, I'll probably deem it to move on to trolling territory. I think this is a clear case where your point has been made, and if you're not willing to provide original info t...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 03:14:23
I consider him to be such. That's not to say somebody else can consider him to not be. It's subjective. But regardless Paul is an authority on Christianity, just one you happen to disagree with. And t...
The hypocrisy of debate.org - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 03:00:11
The site already does that, but if there's a post in between that confuses it.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:59:16
No, your point was this: Why is Paul an unquestionable authority on Christianity? Because the pope put his writings in the bible? I'm saying that it wasn't just because the pope put him ther...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:53:16
Sure, but Paul was not the reason for the schism. The eastern church and the western church both take his writings as just as important as, say, Luke or John.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:47:09
I have to disagree there. The great schism between eastern and western traditions happened some hundreds of years later - the Orthodox church etc have no problem with Paul. It's not just a western thi...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:40:53
And still he was the single person responsible for framing the first core philosophy of a new religion, distinct from Judaism.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:38:38
By saying you're one of the 1% who can govern themselves, you're moralizing too, just less forcefully.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:36:33
I think I can answer this: he was primarily responsible for the invention of Christianity as its own religion.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:35:31
You collect evidence. The more evidence has been collected and validated, the more you believe in it. For example, you may walk near a fire, and feel warm. You can repeat the experiment, do correlatio...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:28:51
Anyone remember when this thread was about Islam?
The hypocrisy of debate.org - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:27:07
Because you're reloading the "post" page that you loaded to post that message. Don't worry, it's on the feature request tracker already to have some kind of redirection to avoid that is...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:25:33
I think knowledge acquired, even if based on faulty premises, is more convincing than faith without basis. Evidence is the standard for the confirmation of theory, not belief. To me it's a basic ...
The hypocrisy of debate.org - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:12:26
Boy, where have I heard this before... lol...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:11:34
In fairness, I don't exactly see many sources from you either in this thread.
The hypocrisy of debate.org - Posted by admin 2015-08-25 02:08:25
I think everyone on edeb8 already knows this on some level.
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-08-24 04:49:28
Unsigh...
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-24 04:48:30
I'm starting to think the word "christian" is nowadays too vague to be meaningful.
Last Comment Wins. - Posted by admin 2015-08-23 15:10:42
If this thread remains unlocked until 2016, I will be most impressed.
This place seems useless? - Posted by admin 2015-08-23 15:09:48
One day people probably will
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-23 14:57:19
Friday is looking very likely at this point for a rollout day.
Is Islam a religion of peace? - Posted by admin 2015-08-23 10:23:51
I'd debate the topic. :D
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-21 23:23:30
You make some good points. Thanks. Some of them are more like new features for the tracker than design things though.
Wikipedia as a source - Posted by admin 2015-08-20 23:25:15
See, even if that were true about academics, the point about journals is that they have an extremely rigorous peer review process, some journals more so than others. This being the whole point of an a...
Wikipedia as a source - Posted by admin 2015-08-20 12:52:18
An academic journal is not written by journalists.
Wikipedia as a source - Posted by admin 2015-08-20 10:46:45
As a single source of information, I'd assume that could well be right. However, it doesn't hold a candle to paid journal indexes. And failing that, I'd say the free search on Google Scholar is probab...
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-20 04:17:02
I'll think about it.
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-20 03:54:54
Probably changing it back to white. Unless better ideas come up.
WODC 2015 - Round 5 - Posted by admin 2015-08-19 03:18:22
Also, thanks is also due to whiteflame for all the rounds.
WODC 2015 - Round 5 - Posted by admin 2015-08-19 03:17:43
Will PM you
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 13:15:12
Told you it does. Please take it on authority that a bolder frame would be terrible. Shading boxes MIGHT work for the homepage, but not for every other page.
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 13:12:25
Check it now.
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 13:11:09
I'll show you how it looks. One sec...
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 13:01:10
Well I can't make it too dark either, and in between is grey. It's like I can't win.
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 12:57:33
... and about the white background?
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 05:45:59
After some experimentation right now, the background does need to be darker than the boxes unfortunately. Otherwise it's VERY hard to see where the boxes are, or else if I darken the boxes they become...
Possible rule update - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 05:32:06
Yeah, I doubt it's bots. People are desperate in the digital marketing world though.
Possible rule update - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 05:25:54
Recently there have been a number of members making accounts strictly for commercial advertising and link farming. Examples would be profiles like @JulieGreen . Then later I discover they're using oth...
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 05:16:18
Remember how long we argued before we settled on that greyish background?
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 05:05:10
This is for the picture on the homepage at the top for non-logged-in users? I've never been too comfortable with any one picture honestly. It's a valid point you make.
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 04:27:05
New debate and forum styles, too.
Design feedback - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 04:20:01
@Hello guinea pigs. I'd like to collect more feedback on the open beta of http://alttest.edeb8.com/ Known issues: > Teal color doesn't work and is replaced with blue > Notification...
WODC 2015 - Round 5 - Posted by admin 2015-08-18 03:18:41
The final home stretch! This is the last round before the semi-finals. Should be exciting. Theme for this round: religion Topics: This House believes that countries should make the pope pe...
War crimes - Posted by admin 2015-08-12 12:09:16
Ben Carson is an important authority on this topic? Isn't he that random-as hopeful for the GOP nomination in the US presidential race who's particularly famous for his lack of knowledge on forei...
Post History - Posted by admin 2015-08-10 04:17:43
This is a good feature request. It would probably be something to add to the search page. Can you add it to the feature requests tracker please?
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 07:56:36
I don't accept the premise that it is unjust. If there was some statistically validated superior method for quickly assessing risk, then insurance companies would have every incentive to switch to it,...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 07:44:16
Actually, gender does affect risk-taking behaviors. They're not measuring who can drive the safest, they're measuring what risks those people are likely to take. It is broad, but it isn't the ONLY thi...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 07:29:19
And that's why the companies have that incentive to narrow the demographic profile as far as they can. And they do. In this case, female teen drivers. The older you get, the more the price gap narrows...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 07:15:04
It's no different for home insurance than life or vehicle insurance. An insurance company assesses the risk factors and calculates what they expect to pay out and when. That applies when looking at th...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 06:57:03
It can, but this clearly isn't discrimination. If you were running a business painting houses for people, you wouldn't simply charge one price for any home. You'd charge based on how much work yo...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 06:46:34
Nothing is also worse than ANYTHING positive, but that logically doesn't imply anything positive is bad. You could say nothing is worse than achieving world peace, or nothing is worse than fighting po...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 05:46:20
That's the nature of buying ANYTHING based on a future risk. If you buy bets on horses, you'll note that horses are priced differently - the gambling people are hedging against the risk of particular ...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 05:43:37
Nothing isn't the only thing that's worse. Your turn of phrase isn't really logically saying what you think it's saying.
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 02:10:03
What's wrong is that it's more unfair. Here you're not dealing with exceptions, here you're penalizing one group for the actions of another group.
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 02:06:30
This is true. I don't drive so I'm largely going off what I pick up from my dad's policy work at the AA.
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 02:05:39
That might be because you're an exception. Nobody's gonna admit to their agency "I intend to drive drunk", so the agency has to make an educated guess on who they trust. To do that, they use...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 01:52:54
Nothing at all is significantly worse at predicting risk than demography. Driver training score is equally misleading, because a young person is unlikely to take the test drunk. However, young ma...
Male Teen Drivers - Posted by admin 2015-08-08 01:19:02
Insurance companies charge premiums on the basis of risk. Demographics may not be a perfect way to assess risk, but what else? I think demography is fair enough in this instance.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-08-02 05:58:03
Now who's ignoring science and appealing to subjectivity?
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-08-02 04:05:44
I have indeed previously admitted that I am wrong. The 3 kinds of snail have far bigger differences than a slightly different skin color. Not all asians have the same skin color. Not all afr...
Windows 10 thread - Posted by admin 2015-08-02 03:50:27
I'm pretty sure that hasn't been released yet.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-08-02 03:48:27
... sure... and then scientists realized they were wrong about 50 years later... and all that happened about 200 years ago...
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-08-01 19:06:09
Really? Because you cited a grand total of zero scientists who agreed with you. Some "annihilation".
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-08-01 15:09:09
Hmm... didn't we debate this one time and I annihilated you so bad you couldn't think of a comeback before your time ran out?
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-08-01 04:15:53
I see Blumenbach's wacky theories are still alive and well in your heart :) We will do our debate, Krazy and nzlockie are lined up to challenge me first though.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-31 03:58:57
"Real" reggae sounds even more corny. What makes that "real" and NZ reggae not "real"?
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-31 03:40:15
It doesn't matter. What you should be allowed to do can be very different from what you should do, as well.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-31 03:36:06
FYI, New Zealand has a huge reggae scene.
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 20:22:41
There is quite often a difference between what people are able to do, allowed to do, and/or should do.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 20:13:24
Maybe a better way to phrase my query would have been "what exactly is the resolution?"
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 19:11:04
To my knowledge, neither of those was used in a major motion picture, disqualifying them from my example. I was trying to illustrate a very particular distinction.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 19:08:24
How would such a debate work?
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 10:42:39
See, that's why I don't like that name. Sometimes it takes influence from heavy metal or rock, but "epic" generally is too general. Maybe an example would clarify. Example of film/trail...
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 09:28:24
I realize that, and I was answering your point. To put what I was saying more briefly: not all film/trailer music is used in a film/trailer, and not all music in films meets the genre of film/trailer ...
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 09:17:11
That's like saying rock isn't a genre. There's certain themes that groups like Two Steps From Hell, Audiomachine etc routinely integrate. And film music is similar, John Williams, Hans Zimmer etc, all...
Windows 10 thread - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 09:13:51
... Just saying, Edge reading view is awesome for reading debates. Handles it a lot better than firefox's, as firefox seems intent on showing the comments for some weird reason.
Favorite Music Genre - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 09:08:33
Trailer and film music for me! Sometimes a bit of classical, pop, rock, pop-rock etc.
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 09:07:02
They may be unjust obligations, but they are obligations all the same. Society and the government oblige us to follow them, and whether we choose to is another issue.
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 08:43:30
Two methods: 1) surround text with [ quote ] and [ /quote ], minus the spaces 2) Have the "Enable-Auto-Quoting" checkbox enabled, and copy/paste text into the box.
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 08:42:32
No, external obligations exist I think you'll find. I doubt any court of law would not convict a doctor because of this argument.
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 08:31:21
No. You said you were not aware, and I quote, "ANYONE" ... was supposed to do, and I quote again, "ANYTHING". But for that matter, doctors as individuals also are supposed to ...
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 08:26:06
You said before: I wasn't aware anyone was supposed to do anything I'm saying laws are examples of things we are supposed to do. Making you aware :)
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 08:12:12
In India the whole public service does. Even Modi. The point is sometimes people are supposed to do things. Doctors are usually bound at a minimum by their own oath, and more often than not by st...
Euthanasia Supporters.. - Posted by admin 2015-07-30 08:02:32
I wasn't aware anyone was supposed to do anything Yeah, society has these things called laws nowadays, you may have heard of them.
WODC 2015 - Round 4 - Posted by admin 2015-07-29 11:07:29
Do well in the last 2 rounds, and your chance of breaking is pretty damn good. Especially since debatability has forfeited every round so far I believe.
WODC 2015 - Round 4 - Posted by admin 2015-07-29 02:07:08
Get ready to rumble! The 2015 World Online Debate Cup enters the penultimate round. This round the theme is something a bit different. THEME: Sports TOPICS: This House believes feminism sh...
Windows 10 thread - Posted by admin 2015-07-28 11:22:57
Let us know when/if you upgrade and generally have a yarn about computer stuff.
Moral Question - Posted by admin 2015-07-27 11:41:41
My memory is bad lol. Did it end in a Stag forfeit?
Moral Question - Posted by admin 2015-07-27 09:18:13
Drug control is another thing we should argue one day.
Moral Question - Posted by admin 2015-07-27 04:40:09
I'm a fairly liberal liberal. I strongly oppose drugs and am in favor of regulated, legalized prostitution. So I can confirm your point I guess haha.
Can Somebody Explain Groups to Me? - Posted by admin 2015-07-26 04:47:06
And me in case I need to moderate it. Yes.
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-25 11:31:49
Oh, right.
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-25 01:41:23
Also, what happened to your WODC debate from this round?
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-25 01:40:55
Watch your language.
WODC R3 Judging - Posted by admin 2015-07-25 00:12:36
The time for debating is over. The time for judging is at hand. This round we had two very exciting debates, one of which is finished and one which is almost finished and should be. Zaradi v TheJ...
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 12:37:40
I think a lot of our disagreement comes over this phrase, "new world order". The German word Hitler used is "Neuordnung", not "Neue weltordnung", which literally means &q...
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 11:30:44
Since you are giving me the smackdown though, I'll make a feature request right now. Woot! Okay, then somebody better tell me where all the debaters are. People come around here, it's just a ...
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 10:42:17
Everything else not so much. Then edeb8 is ample. I have an honest feeling that my ideas will benefit you as well. I don't. Put your actions where your mouth is. If your ideas are so great, p...
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 07:49:13
you have to provide an ample framework if you expect people to want to be involved in the site. So your argument is that edeb8 is not ample? you end up arguing it rather than taking it into con...
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 06:03:45
It is the most I care to do without administrative powers. Communities in general are built by member involvement, not zealous moderation. You are the administrator, the future of your site is ...
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 05:41:11
You have your timeline mixed up. Germany invaded than the allies declared war. Here's my timeline: Sep 1 1939 - Germany attempts to occupy its original part of Poland [Germany subsequently argues...
A cry of desperation - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 04:54:03
Sure. I'm doing the WODC right now. What are YOU doing to "liven up the site?" Heck, when's the last time you even finished a debate? Believe it or not, in the last 30 days, almost 2,00...
Problem - Posted by admin 2015-07-24 04:28:51
Since when were there good guys and bad guys in the world?
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-23 19:13:20
??? Him and the Boshleviks took the entire country from the Poles ??? No. At that stage war had already been declared by the allies AND the Germans. You've got your timeline mixed up. What, so...
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-23 12:41:15
Germany didn't invade Poland, they occupied Polish territories. Subtle difference. No, he planned on exterminating them Source? They were never fed well, and they were always being torture...
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-23 10:49:46
Funnily enough I seem to remember Germany didn't launch a full Polish invasion until after the allies declared war. In fact most allied countries officially declared war before Germany did. Hitler was...
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-23 08:25:11
In fairness, the rest of the world also gave Germany ample reasons to fight. Pretty much the only country who was really actively LOOKING for a war was Japan. I mean, if this is all about the treatmen...
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-23 08:22:04
All that makes the assumption that a military solution is the best solution. A coward hides behind a machine gun or a giant bomb. It takes more bravery to stand up to something like that unarmed, with...
"Hero" Double Standard - Posted by admin 2015-07-22 19:49:35
I agree. We should honor WW2 German anti-war movements, sure. People do. Why then can't we honor American anti-war movements? Nobody praises the pacifists on the winning side. I feel like I don't...
Best Looking States in America? - Posted by admin 2015-07-22 19:43:00
In fairness, I once found myself in a "town" in the south island of New Zealand that appeared to consist of only a single ordinary house. So yeah, I'm sure there's examples even closer to ho...
Crap... - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 06:43:31
Sure, but these are executives. The Fordist production line doesn't exist in Japan or anywhere else. Hence the whole retirement fund thing. It's cheaper to mass produce a car than to individually pane...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 05:54:44
You just linked an article about the non-government WFP pledging food aid. Not confirmation it was ever delivered. AFAIK the only foreign officially "registered" NGO in North Korea is the ...
Political Coordinates - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 04:58:25
I think it's a bit unfair to compare him to a revolutionary leader. I'd agree with him being less authoritarian in his mindset, or at least the mindset of his policies, than Stalin or Mussolini... Cas...
Political Coordinates - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 04:19:52
He increased government power substantially over its people. I call that authoritarian.
Crap... - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 04:18:37
And where are those jobs now, oh great auto city? Mostly, outsourced to asia, and even the asians aren't doing the nitty gritty work. It's dem machines. It's not a proposal. It's something that I...
Political Coordinates - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:39:57
Hmmm... might add some to the list later. Thanks!
Political Coordinates - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:39:33
I agree George Bush was an authoritarian though.
Crap... - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:34:59
I don't necessarily see the problem with that. Unemployment is a good thing if it doesn't negatively affect wealth.
Crap... - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:33:44
Two things: 1. Movies are crap depictions of robot technology. People once said a future where robots made cars is scary as shit, because the auto industry used to employ millions. Now GM is basical...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:23:49
The partnership exists in the first place for 2 reasons: 1. China's foreign policy generally is to try to convince other nearby nations that they are not a threat (while simultaneously sometimes hav...
Crap... - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:09:54
No it doesn't have to come from anywhere. Money is just a confidence trick. If robots produced 100% of all production, there'd be nothing anti-capitalist about equal pay for everyone, or for that matt...
Crap... - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:02:39
The Amish already exist. Also, the Luddite movement died.
Crap... - Posted by admin 2015-07-20 00:01:27
Why do you see this as a problem? More efficient factors of production mean more goods means lower prices? If we see money as a billeting system for the distribution of wealth, the simple answer is to...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-19 16:48:31
And to put this into context, this is North Korea saying that the puppet south (of the USA) wishes to "launch a war" against them because they accused North Korea of planning a terrorist att...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-19 16:43:28
It's true that China has virtually open trade with North Korea, but North Korea simply has nothing China wants to buy. Hence why a few thousand corrupt North Korean officials with Chinese pals live ve...
Some bugs fixed, mostly... - Posted by admin 2015-07-19 02:34:41
New features: Retain Notifications Bugs fixed: Non-logged in feature request dropdowns "load more" on profile status boxes appearing incorrectly to non-logged-in users Secret De...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-18 14:11:46
Neither capitalism nor democracy have ever been proven to make a country richer. Trade, on the other hand, has. It makes logical sense too - when people cooperate, scarcity becomes less of a problem a...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-18 12:23:42
I think it's made North Korea artificially worse off and South Korea artificially better off. I don't think you can possibly make a case that North Korea is better off today than they would be if the ...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-18 10:48:22
See, if it wasn't for the Korean War, I don't think that situation would exist in Korea. Korea would be a unified communist state, and probably somewhat less hardline than it is now.
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-18 03:34:48
You don't need to. Both sides stand down their militaries, let Cyprus work it out.
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-18 03:34:08
You JUST said one of the issues was and foreign backing from a military power. So how about we put a stop to that?
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-18 03:31:51
Well then the obvious solution would be for foreign powers to quit intervening :D
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-18 03:22:12
I tend to disagree. I feel like war is unprofitable for all sides involved. This will MOST likely play out like in Spain, how Barcelona etc wants independence. Not gonna happen, a bunch of people...
Cyprus Conflict - Posted by admin 2015-07-17 13:18:25
... or you could just not intervene and let it play out. That's always an option.
WODC2015 - Round 3 - Posted by admin 2015-07-10 17:34:51
It's not in your edeb8 messages?
WODC2015 - Round 3 - Posted by admin 2015-07-10 00:08:19
@TheJuniorVarsityNovice vs Zaradi FourTrouble vs shabshoral Wylted vs Kasmic UtherPenguin vs RXR. The Redneck vs debatability lannan13 vs That1User Stag - BYE Theme: Economics To...
WODC2015 - Ready for round 3? - Posted by admin 2015-07-09 06:46:27
We've had some interesting debates so far, but round 3 is usually where the really interesting matchups start to happen. Expected match-ups for the next round: TheJuniorVarsityNovice v Zaradi ...
All things New Cold War - Posted by admin 2015-07-08 04:59:24
Great! I wish more discussions would land on the forums and not the shoutbox.
Five Minor Nations with Superior Militaries - Posted by admin 2015-07-06 11:07:19
Yay! :D Proud of my people.
Five Minor Nations with Superior Militaries - Posted by admin 2015-07-05 21:05:17
I'm hoping New Zealand won't make the list :P
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-05 13:41:23
Messed up my two links. http://en.alalam.ir/news/1607806 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2760644/ISIS-signs-6-000-new-recruits-American-airstrikes-began-France-says-start-calling-group-...
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-05 13:39:59
"Sure, but this isn't a western society. Direct and subliminal messages are convincing people to radicalize every day" This is exactly the kind of orientalism I talked about in my previous...
WODC R2 - Judging! :) - Posted by admin 2015-07-05 07:15:54
Time is now basically up for round 2 of the WODC. I've been a bit lenient with this round's timings. I'll apply a 50% point penalty to all debaters in debates that go over the limit. As always, t...
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-05 07:00:13
"I thought it was because of radical preaching and over sensationalized idealism" Just because somebody preaches something radical doesn't mean you'll automatically accept it. This is mode...
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-04 18:38:57
You can't stop a movement like ISIL if you just think of them like an army. You have to consider why ISIL exists in the first place: lots of poor youth, and nothing to keep them occupied. Every single...
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-04 07:45:01
Oh yeah, dealing with bugs immediately and topics when I actually get time lol. :)
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-04 07:35:40
That's the placeholder attribute. Every version of Google Chrome since version 2 has supported that correctly (current version is version 43). Your browser is screwed up.
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-04 06:41:43
All bug reports to the bug tracker please. Also, I have no idea why you expect text to disappear?
Something to argue about: ISIL - Posted by admin 2015-07-04 05:15:01
Yes. I mean, given that I believe forces just shouldn't exist at all anymore and NATO should be disbanded, I suppose I might as well.
Smart Economics - Posted by admin 2015-07-01 04:17:18
First of all, I'm not an Austrian or a Keynesian. I thought my rant above would have made that fairly clear. There's merit to both philosophies, but I also have serious problems with both. That doesn'...
Smart Economics - Posted by admin 2015-06-30 04:45:34
If there's one thing I know for certain about economists, it's that no two of them can agree on anything. If you've been taught all economists agree on basic principles, then geez... I mean, look at a...
Smart Economics - Posted by admin 2015-06-29 05:10:52
By its very definition, "Bad policy, something most liberal countries have, is when you take money from everyone to give it to the few. In this case the lower class" is the definition of a p...
Smart Economics - Posted by admin 2015-06-28 18:07:32
As you might expect, I see things rather differently, and don't appreciate being called stupid because of it. Just as a first principle: Inflation is when we have too much money, and too few go...
The difference between acceptance and tolerance - Posted by admin 2015-06-27 16:00:03
It's the grey area of tolerance. Di