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Famousdebater
By Famousdebater | Aug 28 2016 7:55 AM
I'm curious as to what people's views on abortion are on this site since its a topic I've researched and debate a lot over the last year. So here are a few questions I have and I'd appreciate people's answers:

Do you believe that abortion should be banned?

At what point in the pregnancy is the fetus living in your opinion? Why do you believe this?

In what situations do you think abortion should be legal? All situations, some restrictions (if so, what?) or should it be legal in no instances)?
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By Famousdebater | Aug 28 2016 7:56 AM
Famousdebater: debate

*debated
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By Crow | Aug 28 2016 11:15 AM
Famousdebater: At what point in the pregnancy is the fetus living in your opinion? Why do you believe this?

The whole time.

It most resembles a human life at 9 weeks. It has been argued that 9 weeks was when the soul develops by Aristotle, and he might not be far off given that is when consciousness starts to activate, which corresponds with brain activity,.

In what situations do you think abortion should be legal? All situations, some restrictions (if so, what?) or should it be legal in no instances)?

All the time, since I do not believe in the law.

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By Famousdebater | Aug 28 2016 11:18 AM
Crow: Based on that logic do you also believe that murder should be allowed since you "do not believe in the law"?
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By Famousdebater | Aug 28 2016 11:22 AM
Crow: How about morally? Do you personally believe tha having an abortion is right or wrong?
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By Crow | Aug 28 2016 11:31 AM
Famousdebater: That act should be allowed, but heavily attacked.

The act of abortion is clearly disrespecting the value of human life. If one cannot acknowledge the value during the present, they should at least acknowledge that abortion is stealing that conceived life's future.

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By Famousdebater | Aug 28 2016 11:38 AM
Crow: I don't really know how you can believe a society in which murder, infanticide, torture, etc. is better than the status quo - but we're getting off topic here so I'll leave this part of the discussion for now.

At the moment I'm on my phone so I'll try to go into detail as to why the fetus is not biologically living until the 24th week into the pregnancy when I get onto my laptop.
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By Crow | Aug 28 2016 11:39 AM
Famousdebater: That act should be allowed, but heavily attacked.

The act of abortion is clearly disrespecting the value of human life. If one cannot acknowledge the value during the present, they should at least acknowledge that abortion is stealing that conceived life's future.

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By Famousdebater | Aug 28 2016 11:44 AM
Crow: Accidental double post?
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By Crow | Aug 28 2016 11:51 AM
Famousdebater: I don't really know how you can believe a society in which murder, infanticide, torture, etc. is better than the status quo

What do you mean?

There is murder, infanticide, and torture in the status quo.
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By Famousdebater | Aug 28 2016 11:54 AM
Crow: Sorry, my post was poorly phrased. What I meant was that I don't see how you can prefer a society in which these acts go unpunished (and will probably rise in quantity as a result) to the status quo.
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By Crow | Aug 28 2016 12:00 PM
Famousdebater: It isn't that much of a moral reach.

Most people agree that retribution and revenge are unwise and impractical.

That is why I do not believe in pursuing punishment.
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By Famousdebater | Aug 28 2016 12:01 PM
Crow: Most people agree that retribution and revenge are unwise and impractical.
Source?
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By Crow | Aug 28 2016 12:12 PM
Famousdebater: It isn't that much of a moral reach.

Most people agree that retribution and revenge are unwise and impractical.

That is why I do not believe in pursuing punishment.
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By Crow | Aug 28 2016 12:15 PM
Famousdebater: Source?

It is just a general and popular opinion.

A historical proverb that has been used since the Roman Empire.






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By Famousdebater | Aug 28 2016 12:24 PM
Crow: Quotes are not facts. I'm sure that I could find a quote that reflects the opposite belief to yours due to there being so many easily accessible quotes on various different topics on the internet.
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By Crow | Aug 28 2016 12:25 PM
Famousdebater: Source?

It is just a general and popular opinion.

A historical proverb that has been used since the Roman Empire.






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By Crow | Aug 28 2016 12:26 PM
Famousdebater: What facts? You want facts on why revenge is foolish?

Try common sense instead.

Revenge is never worth pursuing. It leads to more hurt than it resolves.

Disagree? Make a counter-argument. It really isn't that hard.
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By Famousdebater | Aug 28 2016 12:28 PM
Crow: No, I want facts to suggest that not punishing criminals will stop them comitting crimes in a more effective way than prison does.
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By Crow | Aug 28 2016 12:29 PM
Famousdebater: I never argued that it would.

Also there are no crimes in an anarchic society, so right from the gecko you are establishing a false premise.

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