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Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | May 14 2016 6:53 PM
It is becoming more obvious who the nominees of each party is going to be. Here are the current results:

Republican Party:

Donald Trump- 1,134 delegates
Ted Cruz- Dropped Out
John Kasich- 156 delegates
1,237 needed for nomination

Democratic Party:

Hillary Clinton- 2,240 total delegates
Bernie Sanders- 1,473 total delegates
2,383 needed for nomination

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1RNPN_enUS447&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=republican%20delegates&eob=m.09c7w0/R/5/short/m.09c7w0/

So the nominee of the republican side will be Donald Trump, and Hillary Clinton will win the Democratic side.
What do you think of all this? Who would you vote for? and why do you not like Donald Trump(most people here probably don't) as a president?
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By admin | May 15 2016 4:46 AM
Bi0Hazard: Like most people, I'm not a fan of either.
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Dassault Papillon
By Dassault Papillon | May 15 2016 11:31 AM
Trump's isolationist policies would increase Chinese and Russian aggression considerably and raise the likelihood of WW3. As much as I like making WW3 scenarios, I cannot knowingly contribute to it actually happening by voting for him.That being said, I'm not voting for Hillary Clinton either. So...3rd party it is for me.
Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | May 15 2016 4:59 PM
Dassault Papillon: What 3rd party candidate would you want? The libertarian party is isolationist as well. Otherwise, the rest don't have a chance.
Also, how would isolationism increase other countries aggression? Its simply staying out of other countries affairs. In my view, the opposite would be true. More intervention means more aggression and war.
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By admin | May 15 2016 5:07 PM
On a related topic, Lessig recently did a AMA on reddit's debate board thingy: https://www.reddit.com/r/Debate/comments/4jh6uq/i_am_lessig_here_in_rdebate_not_out_playing_with/
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Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | May 15 2016 5:27 PM
admin: Are you a fan of Larry Lessig?
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By admin | May 15 2016 5:40 PM
Bi0Hazard: He's ok for the one issue he's there to advance. Clearly more of a protest candidate than anything else. Honestly if I was in the USA I'd probably vote for Jill Stein - not that I 100% agree with her either, but she's by far the most consistently liberal candidate. I understand why people get behind Trump - Trump's a showman offering an alternative to the candidates that the establishment likes. Sanders rides on the same momentum and has honestly discredited Hillary for much of the democratic base of his support.

Just going to throw this out there as an unpopular opinion of mine - I know the libertarians are going to nominate Gary Johnson, but really they ought to be picking John McAfee. If this is the election of the outsider candidates, the McAfee really is a super sensible pick who could get a lot of votes. He's just crazy enough that people who get bored with Trump will hop on his bandwagon.
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Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | May 15 2016 5:48 PM
admin: Gary Johnson has the prior experience as former governor of New Mexico and has done pretty good for a third party candidate in the 2012 election. I think he will do even better in this election. Since I am not a liberal, i don't agree with Jill Stein but I would choose her over Hillary Clinton.
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By admin | May 15 2016 5:50 PM
Bi0Hazard: Gary Johnson's definitely a safer choice. I just think that if there's ever an election to pick a crazy wild controversial choice, it's probably this one.
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Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | May 15 2016 6:03 PM
admin: Why this one?
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By admin | May 15 2016 6:06 PM
Bi0Hazard: Because crazy wild controversial choices are in vogue, so that's what people are being receptive to at the moment.
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Krazy
By Krazy | May 16 2016 12:04 AM
I like Trump. His policies make sense.

Ted Cruz is not very honest. And he's not even supposed to be eligible for president; he was born in Canada. The Constitution says you have to be born in the US to be president

John Kasic is wishy-washy.

Hillary Clinton is a delusional feminist. And without the woman card, she's got nothing.

Bernie Sanders is a communist and self proclaimed socialialist.
Dassault Papillon
By Dassault Papillon | May 16 2016 6:19 AM
Bi0Hazard: Isolationist America would make the world like a neighborhood with zero police presence. What do you think would happen next?
Dassault Papillon
By Dassault Papillon | May 16 2016 6:20 AM
Who knows? I might vote Nazi Party just for the lulz.
Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | May 16 2016 9:10 AM
Krazy: The constitution says you have to be a natural born citizen. Ted Cruz's mother was America-born, so he qualifies.
As for Ted Cruz being dishonest, you think Donald Trump is any more honest?
I would say he is worst than Ted Cruz.
And does John Kasich have to yell insults at the others to be a great candidate in your opinion?
Bernie sanders is not a communist, and he is not a true socialist. He doesn't want complete public ownership of production. He is what you would call a social democrat.
Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | May 16 2016 9:47 AM
Dassault Papillon: The U.S. doesn't need to be the police of the world, we should focus more on other issues at home. The U.S. has over $19 trillion dollars in debt, crumbling infrastructure, and the military budget is so high that maybe we should spend more on education and other areas rather than policing the world. A world super power is not a good thing since so much power leads to corruption.
Krazy
By Krazy | May 16 2016 10:01 AM
Bi0Hazard: The constitution says you have to be a natural born citizen. Ted Cruz's mother was America-born, so he qualifies
No, the person running for president has to be born in the US. That's what the Constitution says. It doesn't matter where your relatives are born - YOU have to be born in the United States to be eligible for president.

As for Ted Cruz being dishonest, you think Donald Trump is any more honest?
Yep.

And does John Kasich have to yell insults at the others to be a great candidate in your opinion?
Is that what I said? I don't think that's what I said. Re-read my previous post.

Bernie sanders is not a communist, and he is not a true socialist.
Well he said he was. I just took his word for it.

He doesn't want complete public ownership of production.
If that's true, then he doesn't know what socialism is. Because he claims to be a socialist.

He is what you would call a social democrat
That's the same thing.
Krazy
By Krazy | May 16 2016 10:07 AM
Or close enough anyways.
Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | May 16 2016 11:45 AM
Krazy: A natural-born citizen is one who was a U.S. citizen at birth and had no need to go through naturalization later. You do not need to be born on U.S. soil to be a natural born citizen. Children of citizens of the U.S. are considered to be natural born citizens. This was recognized around the time of the drafting of the constitution, when the naturalization act of 1790 was passed. If your born outside of U.S. borders to U.S. citizens, then you are natural born.
Ted Cruz qualifies since his mother was a U.S. citizen and his father has been resident in the U.S.
More information here: http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/on-the-meaning-of-natural-born-citizen/

Donald Trump has lied plenty of times, so I don't believe that is a good reason to like him over Ted Cruz.

John Kasic is wishy-washy.

What do you mean when you say "wishy-washy"?
I just thought you meant lacking boldness in the debates. Since he doesn't yell and talk over others, then he is "wishy washy".

I guess Bernie Sanders doesn't know what true socialism is, he doesn't want complete public ownership of production, he just wants the government to do more to protect the working and middle class from the wealthy.

A social democrat wants the government to do more economic and social interventions within the framework of a capitalist economy.
So the economy would remain capitalist with much socialist characteristics. It would be called a "mixed" economy.
Socialism is when the means of production are owned by the government(state ownership). There are other varieties of socialism, but this is the most common one people talk about. Call social democracy "socialism" if you want, but its not truly "socialism".




Krazy
By Krazy | May 16 2016 1:26 PM
Bi0Hazard: Fair enough. You're right about the "natural born citizen" principle. Keep in mind though that the Naturalization Act of 1790 also states that a person cannot be a natural born citizen if his father has never been a U.S. resident. Rafael Cruz was born in Cuba, although he later became a resident.

I'm not aware of any lies that Trump said. But as far as I'm aware of, Ted Cruz is continually saying either full blown lies or half-truths (which is the same thing as a lie). Either way though, even if Trump lied just as much as Cruz did, I believe Trump's policies are just better in general and would still likely vote for him.

What do you mean when you say "wishy-washy"?
During his campaign before he dropped out, he themed his campaign on "positive thinking" and said something along the lines of " Let's just think positive." I don't want a president like that. Positive thinking doesn't help you solve problems; realistic thinking does, whether the situation be positive or negative

I just thought you meant lacking boldness in the debates. Since he doesn't yell and talk over others, then he is "wishy washy".
I'm sorry you got that impression. Perhaps I should have been more clear.


Regardless of the political definitions; socialism, communism, Marxism, etc. have the same goal of eliminating private property, which is essential to freedom. How can you have freedom if you have no place to exercise that freedom? You just can't have it in that kind of society.
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