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Islam should be banned as a criminal organization.

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GekkGekk (CON)
All Sunni/Shia schools of thought agree that forced marriages are strictly forbidden in Islam and that Islamic marriages are contracts between two consenting parties(https://web.archive.org/web/20070329014505/http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/humanrelations/womeninislam/marriage.html#consent).

Saying Islam should be banned as a criminal organization could also be said about Christianity based on your standard.

It is estimated that Christianity is responsible for 9-28 million deaths as a religion not by people who say they are christian(https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Death_toll_of_Christianity).

What is your argument for a religion being banned as a criminal organization? Can people in a criminal organization claim to follow a religion but not represent that religion? That seems far more likely...

Just because you find one person who says they follow a religion and is an extremist does not mean that entire religion is a criminal cartel or every member of that religion is a criminal cartel.

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2021-01-08 04:37:13
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David NicholsDavid Nichols (PRO)
1.A child does not have the judgement to consent to marriage or sex with an adult. 2.Christianity is a separate debate. Set it up, and I'll embarrass you then too. 3.Islam aids, abets, and incites child rape. Those are all crimes.
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2021-01-08 05:03:36
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GekkGekk (CON)
You are generalizing a religion, in Christianity it is the same. Are you saying all religions that have any history doing this should be banned?
Should we all be atheist?
Because people have done those things does not mean it represents the entire religion, your argument is going in circles.
Provide evidence that "EVERYONE WHO FOLLOW ISLAM OR IDENTIFIES AS ISLAM IS MARRYING CHILDREN WITHOUT CONSENT"
The evidence I provided showed the opposite therefore we are at odds, however I have presented evidence and you have not.
Right now the only thing you are destroying is your own self-confidence, clearly you were not prepared for this or any of the debates you have posted.

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2021-01-08 05:07:15
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David NicholsDavid Nichols (PRO)
1.Islam is the ONLY religion that teaches sexual crime. The Muslims who are law-abiding are irrelevant. 2.I did not say every Muslim is a criminal. Con cannot read. 3.The Islamic writings al-Bukhaari 3894 and Muslim 1422 record that the founder of Islam, Muhammad, had sex with a nine-year-old girl named Aisha. Today, in Muslim countries, child sex is legal because of Muhammad's example.
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2021-01-08 08:10:11
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GekkGekk (CON)
Do you have specific statutes or laws showing that child crime is legal?
The documentation I linked to shows that is not the case.
Your original assertion is that Islam should be banned as a criminal organization, you have not proven that it is a criminal organization.
You have also asserted that Islam is the only religion that teaches sexual crime and give no evidence of it teaching specifically sexual crime nad are making an assumption when there are thousands of other religions.

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2021-01-08 08:46:29
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David NicholsDavid Nichols
ZZ--Get lost, rock.
Posted 2021-01-09 05:45:16
GekkGekk
So are you saying that anyone who is classified as a muslim is a child abuser?
I thought you said before it didn't include all Muslim's?
This is what happens when you generalize.
Posted 2021-01-09 05:41:37
David NicholsDavid Nichols
Child rape is illegal in the US, genius. Muslims want to do it, but can't. Why don't you go away, you're hopeless.
Posted 2021-01-09 04:45:46
GekkGekk
Again it is outlawed by the states, and it is not practiced in all Muslim countries because there are Muslims in the US that don't practice that. Your premise is flawed.
Posted 2021-01-09 04:06:40
David NicholsDavid Nichols
Child rape is not a "fringe entity" in Islam. It is taught and practiced in all Muslim countries. I said that ALREADY, Einstein.
Posted 2021-01-09 03:42:00
David NicholsDavid Nichols
1.You cannot call a criminal organization a religion in America. 2.Extremism is not illegal. As usual, you're drooling ideas.
Posted 2021-01-09 03:38:11
GekkGekk
That's not how religious freedom works, just because you have fringe entities does not mean you ban the entire thing.
Otherwise, the majority if not all religions would be banned due to extremists.
Posted 2021-01-09 03:16:57
David NicholsDavid Nichols
It is not possible to ban part of a religion. You have to just ban it.
Posted 2021-01-09 03:08:20
David NicholsDavid Nichols
Dude, you don't have to break every law to go to jail. Islam facilitates rape, thus it should be banned. Also, anyone associated with a criminal organization is subject to prosecution under the RICO statutes.
Posted 2021-01-09 03:05:53
GekkGekk
I can agree that there is definitely issues with child abuse.
However, that doesn't mean you ban an entire religion.
I have people in my family who follow Islam who don't abuse children.
There are plenty of people with no religions who abuse childrenand adults for that matter.
https://www.dw.com/en/does-iranian-law-allow-for-child-abuse/a-46405350
Posted 2021-01-08 16:57:54
David NicholsDavid Nichols
Civilian laws are overridden by Sharia law. Do I always have to help you? A country's law may be 18, but all the guy has to do is petition a Sharia court in order to marry and rape his child victim. In Muslim countries, Sharia law overrides civilian law. Got it?
Posted 2021-01-08 12:57:04
David NicholsDavid Nichols
What facts do I ignore, rock?
Posted 2021-01-08 12:41:32
David NicholsDavid Nichols
Did I say all Muslims raped children?
Posted 2021-01-08 12:40:31
GekkGekk
My aunt is Muslim and was not married before 18...
Posted 2021-01-08 12:36:44
GekkGekk
I have listed the facts and you ignore them. Nothing else ti be said.What would it take to convince you otherwise.
Posted 2021-01-08 12:36:12
David NicholsDavid Nichols
ZZ--You can't speak for yourself? Don't send me to someone else.
Posted 2021-01-08 12:28:17
David NicholsDavid Nichols
ZZ--1.Dude, just look up child sex laws in Islam (Sharia Law). Don't be so helpless.. 2.Islam marries little girls to adult men, and child sex is then permitted. How much more evidence do you need, rock?
Posted 2021-01-08 11:09:44
David NicholsDavid Nichols
ZZ--Then why did you ask for proof that Islam is criminal, rock?
Posted 2021-01-08 10:31:03
GekkGekk
Never said it wasn't...
Posted 2021-01-08 09:31:34
David NicholsDavid Nichols
ZZ---Airheads get what they deserve, and child rape is a crime. Geez...
Posted 2021-01-08 07:55:07
GekkGekk
I await proof that Islam(the religion) is a criminal organization.
Posted 2021-01-08 07:18:36
GekkGekk
You don't have to disrespect and insult others simply to hold your own ground. If you do, that shows how shaky your own position is. - Red Haircrow
Posted 2021-01-08 06:59:23
David NicholsDavid Nichols
Evidence? The Islamic writings Al-bukhaari 3894 and Muslim 1422 record that Muhammad raped a nine-year-old girl named Aisha. Today, in all Muslim countries, child sex is legal because of their prophet's example.
Posted 2021-01-08 05:40:10
David NicholsDavid Nichols
This guy is crazy. I didn't say all Muslims rape children.
Posted 2021-01-08 05:36:56
David NicholsDavid Nichols
This genius can't understand that Islam teaches child rape. The problem isn't that there are a few bad Muslims.
Posted 2021-01-08 05:35:37
David NicholsDavid Nichols
This guy is really thickheaded. I told if he wants to talk about other religions to set up a separate debate.
Posted 2021-01-08 05:32:08
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2021-01-09 19:52:11
jeremywarcherJudge: jeremywarcher
Win awarded to: Gekk
Reasoning:
The statement made by pro is simply absurd. If Islam is a criminal organization, just what is the catholic church? The KKK are a christian organization. But part of me thinks pro knows that well.

Feedback:
David, just stop. You're embarrassing yourself and your god.
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